The depressing tidal wave of white supremacy

[Irene]

im not stalking, but ive monitored some of the sites sinny goes to.

Robo,

If you're monitoring where she goes then you are stalking her.

[Irene]

I grant myself the right to judge.

As for everyone having a reason to believe the things they do, does the fact that you were born white have anything to do with the matter?

What if you were born black? Or Eastern?

What would your beliefs be then?

The fact is, white supremacists are only white supremacists because they had the advantage of being born white, and are stupid enough to buy into convenient narratives of grandeur.

As Hitler once said regarding Himmler's obessive quest to excavate grandeur Germanic history; "why is he drawing attention to the fact that we don't have a history?"

Unable to shape their own independent identity, they'd rather latch onto one that has been manufactured for them.

There are black supremacists too. We just don't call them that because no one wants to admit it in our current politically correct climate.

[robomont]

In Australia they are called "bogans," ArMaP.



The above song could serve as a cultural primer, if you are interested.  I experienced some conflict with these people while living in Sunbury in the early 2000's; I was nearly murdered by them twice.

thats 1/3 of the usa white population.roflmao.since i hate flipflops and dont drink,im not in that catagory.whew....id fit in ,in australia,yeah!

[Phedre]

Race , color of skin, seems to be a big problem for some who deem it so. I don't remember being given a choice on what color my skin would be? So in my mind it is what it is .... period. What I truly do not understand is white people who seemingly find the need to turn on other white people and attach a "worthless label" to the whole lot. For what reason?

White people are the only race I see do this, I have never seen, for instance A black person turn against black people, seemingly just for the hell of it. In these cases it appears to me "something else" going on.......When the need to turn on your own color(or lack of) to say others of color are more worthy?  I have always been under the impression that we are all "Human Beings" no matter what color our skin is. All here for our own personal reasons.

But then I also understand that people that want to cause me and my family Harm are just Not going to be my playmates, nor do I feel compelled to defend them. Not really caring what color of skin they have.

[robomont]

Robo,

If you're monitoring where she goes then you are stalking her.

unless i go there too,lol,actually i lost peggy and had to re find it and found sinny at a same named place but different.i even joined but didnt post,i just found it like two weeks ago and its a slow forum like this one,which i like.but lost it just two days ago.lol.so if thats stalking then call me guilty.but in reality,i was just curious what was there and found sinny there.not my duty to say hi.so read a few post,joined ,then never went back.as i had to wait on admin to approve,and the subject matter was not really of my taste.

[Irene]

Phedre,

I give people the benefit of the doubt unless they prove otherwise. Then it's gloves off.

[petrus4]

"The Muslim's plan for word domination is to breed is out"

RoFL.

I stand by my assertions.

I would be more convinced, Sinny, if you attempted to offer evidence to invalidate my claim, rather than questioning my intelligence.

[Irene]

I would be more convinced, Sinny, if you attempted to offer evidence to invalidate my claim, rather than questioning my intelligence.

Amen to that. There appear to be some "issues".

[Phedre]

Phedre,

I give people the benefit of the doubt unless they prove otherwise. Then it's gloves off.

I agree Irene.  It depends on Character and Intentions, of an individual or a group, skin color, not so much. Being a good or not so good person,  is pretty much raceless. Actions speak volumes!

[Eighthman]

I have come to wonder how much trouble from Muslims comes from Islam OR how much trouble comes from Wahabism, one sick version of it.

It simply amazes me how much destruction and hate the Saudis can spread with while western nations pretend its OK.

[Phedre]

I have come to wonder how much trouble from Muslims comes from Islam OR how much trouble comes from Wahabism, one sick version of it.

It simply amazes me how much destruction and hate the Saudis can spread with while western nations pretend its OK.

If you truly desire to understand ,find yourself a good book on "Sharia Law" only then ,will you know most of the "whys and the hows" of this most ancient , never reformed religion.

[Eighthman]

There are many photos of Egypt from before the '70's showing women commonly without a hijab/scarf/head covering.  Something changed and I believe it was oil money spreading Wahabism.

Muslims come up with all sorts of crazy interpretations, good and bad, of their religion.  Afghans have rampant homosexuality and can be fanatical otherwise.  To my observations, many Shias seem to invent all sorts of exceptions for idolatry - and adoption of pagan customs.  You can quote Sharia but whose Sharia?

Islam can be quite decentralized. Get rid of the Saudis and we might see 'reform' without calling it that.

Actually, I have intuitively thought that a HUGE opportunity exists to 'marry' (syncretism) the social justice example set by Mohammed together with liberal politics in Muslim nations.

[petrus4]

If you truly desire to understand ,find yourself a good book on "Sharia Law" only then ,will you know most of the "whys and the hows" of this most ancient , never reformed religion.

I don't know the specifics of Islamic theology, but I first started reading the King James version of the Old Testament at around the age of five, (yes, really; there are some things I'm not good at, but other things that I am) so I'm willing to make what is hopefully a reasonably educated guess.

Mosaic law, like the Yassa of Genghis Khan, was introduced within the context of an unusually violent, chaotic, and barbaric society.  Khan and Moses essentially both took that violence and channelled it to specific ends.  Instead of a scenario where people were simply murdered randomly, they were now only to be murdered for specific reasons which were encoded into law.



It was basically Dredd's scenario, except around 4,000 years ago, give or take.

This scenario was the Semitic social manifestation of the Age of Aries; the Hellenic manifestation is largely undocumented, but think of it as the precursor period for Rome and Sparta.  The Greeks thought of it as their Age of Heroes; and it would have been a period of extraordinary accomplishment in war, because that is one of Aries' main correspondences.  It's important to understand here that because continual warfare and barbarity are one of Aries' correspondences, advanced technological development is not; the reason being that the damage caused by said wars can be kept strictly localised, and thus not detrimentally affect anyone else.

The problem with Islam and Judaism, then, is that they are Aries age religions or social systems, which still exist at the beginning of Aquarius.  The main reason why this is such a serious problem is because very high levels of technological development do correspond with Aquarius.  Mars is in detriment in Aquarius, and the reason why is because if the two energies were allowed to be more synergistic with each other, Aquarius could use its' technological aptitude to create literal existential threats to all life; which, in the current early stage of course, it still is.

Watch Minority Report and notice the completely non-lethal weaponry of restraint that is used in that film.  That is what law enforcement looks like in Aquarian society.  Murder can not be permissible, and again, the reason why is because Aquarian technology allows for any output to be produced precisely, on an industrial scale, including fascism and death. 

That is what caused the Holocaust.  Hitler was solar Aries, and he wanted to create an "Aryan," master race.  There are no coincidences here; and from a Hermetic or astrological point of view, it's very easy to understand why that went as bad as it did.  Using Aquarian technology and methodology to achieve Arien goals, is not going to accomplish anything other than causing a very large number of people to die.

This background also explains why the Muslims in that article which Zorgon quoted, would have attempted to force that religious holiday on the school.  The majority of Muslims themselves most likely do not understand the genuine context behind their laws, and they simply have the Judge Dredd mentality that said laws must be followed, because if they are not, then complete omnicidal entropy or chaos will supposedly result to the point where humanity can not survive.

The problem is convincing Muslims that this is neither Aries nor Mega City One, and the attitude that general capital punishment as the only means of preventing completing social disintegration, is no longer appropriate.  Adopting that attitude during Aquarius will end in nuclear war, not in the sort of tribal social maintenance that Muslims are accustomed to thinking that it will.

It therefore further needs to be understood that, in most cases, viewing Muslims as the enemy for wishing to implement Sharia is counterproductive.  Their motives for doing so usually arise from a genuine desire for what they view as social cohesion.  The crisis, again, has resulted from their inability to realise that said legal context is no longer relevant.  They are, in effect, living in the past; and attempts to enforce their obsolete legal system will actually cause the opposite result to what they are hoping for.  Greater chaos, not more.

[ArMaP]

The problem with Islam and Judaism, then, is that they are Aries age religions or social systems, which still exist at the beginning of Aquarius.

I'm confused with those 4000 years, age of Aquarius and of Aries. Could you at least say when did those ages start? That would help.

[Eighthman]

People don't have to be "logical" in dealing with theology.  You could argue that religion just isn't rational, anyway.
Rationalizations that defy harsh standards pop up as needs emerge.

I once sincerely believed that the New Testament does not teach hell fire torment.  I now realize such an interpretation is silly and unhistorical - however, people such as Adventists and JWs come up with elaborate explanations that defy plain language as they need to make things consistent and fair in their own minds.

This is called "deconstructionism".  Black can mean white, up can mean down and so on.  You can also elevate one rule about another and do what you really want.  Politicians and criminals excel at this ( "Those damned Russians hacked the election!"  - and exposed utter corruption).

One day, if we are wise enough to leave-Iran-the-hell-alone, you will see a secular, anti-clerical regime in Iran amidst technological development.  Sharia be damned, it can happen without an explicit Reformation.