https://www.indy100.com/article/ufo-sightings-extraterrestrials-aliens-space-america-x-files-7594936
I have thought for the past couple years that Disclosure might be preceded by a series of small steps leading to a grand conclusion. In that regard, I note the following:
1) NASA reveals that other solar system with planets exist
2) Suggestive extreme life discoveries continue
3) Organic material is found on Ceres
4) NASA reveals that a solar system exists with Earth -sized planets, some of which are in the 'Goldilocks' zone
5) UFO sightings increase, as above.
6) Credible people come forward testifying about secret space programs and ET contact.
Are these just random events without a connection? Or are they deliberate steps towards a Conclusion? I also would point out that the Medvedev comment suggested that ET's were already here ...... and that brings up the thought that they may be influencing events on Earth.
If this IS a trend, then I would expect that we see more steps....... exposure of ET life at the microbial level would make sense. Or fossil evidence.
We will see......
I think there might be a reason that they would have to soon enough.
Quote from: biggles on February 24, 2017, 01:06:18 AM
I think there might be a reason that they would have to soon enough.
What do you think that reason might be, biggles? Share your opinion with us, please.
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Seeker
Quote from: Eighthman on February 23, 2017, 04:41:34 PM
https://www.indy100.com/article/ufo-sightings-extraterrestrials-aliens-space-america-x-files-7594936
I have thought for the past couple years that Disclosure might be preceded by a series of small steps leading to a grand conclusion. In that regard, I note the following:
1) NASA reveals that other solar system with planets exist
2) Suggestive extreme life discoveries continue
3) Organic material is found on Ceres
4) NASA reveals that a solar system exists with Earth -sized planets, some of which are in the 'Goldilocks' zone
5) UFO sightings increase, as above.
6) Credible people come forward testifying about secret space programs and ET contact.
Are these just random events without a connection? Or are they deliberate steps towards a Conclusion? I also would point out that the Medvedev comment suggested that ET's were already here ...... and that brings up the thought that they may be influencing events on Earth.
If this IS a trend, then I would expect that we see more steps....... exposure of ET life at the microbial level would make sense. Or fossil evidence.
We will see......
There are 2 items on Von Braun's list we haven't seen yet; an asteroid, and an alien false flag...
I would think that the human race has stubbornly thrown away all sorts of opportunities for Disclosure. The enlightened influence of Star Trek is long behind us. So is "The Day The Earth Stood Still". And 9/11 made an utter mess of things.
At best we're mostly stagnant, with a few interesting gadgets to play with. At worst, we're degenerating into nationalism and tribalism after a greedy 1% wrecked globalism. No free energy, no cure for cancer, no cure for the aging process, no unified field theory, no interstellar craft, a world economy deeply dependent on fossil fuels, and huge debts everywhere.
Could Aliens figure that we've passed our peak as to a good Disclosure introduction? That it will only get worse from here on? I am wondering....
Quote from: the seeker on February 24, 2017, 01:54:10 AM
There are 2 items on Von Braun's list we haven't seen yet; an asteroid, and an alien false flag...
Did von Braun really say those things, or was that Rosin trying to get her foot in the door to fame and fortune?
I may be crucified for this, but I think it's the latter.
What are the public controversies in the US currently? Accusations of racism and sexism, poverty, job loss, income inequality, and unbridgeable divisions.
Why? Because 'we', the human race, missed 'liftoff'. If we had developed free or very cheap energy, we wouldn't be at each other's throats. If you have a decent place to live and an income, who cares if someone hates you? You associate with whoever you like, you live your life. People are behaving like overcrowded rats in some Calhoun experiment.
Or we could have gone to Mars or orbiting Earth colonies. We didn't (well, not openly, right?). Maybe we could have cured aging - and stopped the Attention Deficit - quick n' cheap attitude we have every time a long term problem comes up. We're stuck.........
Quote from: Irene on February 24, 2017, 02:43:59 AM
Did von Braun really say those things, or was that Rosin trying to get her foot in the door to fame and fortune?
I may be crucified for this, but I think it's the latter.
That is the question now, isn't it?
Carol Rosin states that Von Braun made those statements to her; if there were no others present that can vet or verify it, then it is no different than you or I or Zorgon relating something that happened to us...so yes, there is room for doubt; but eye witness testimony is allowed in a court of law
Seeker
Quote from: Eighthman on February 24, 2017, 03:03:04 AM
What are the public controversies in the US currently? Accusations of racism and sexism, poverty, job loss, income inequality, and unbridgeable divisions.
Noise and smoke to distract everyone away from any issues of import...
QuoteWhy? Because 'we', the human race, missed 'liftoff'. If we had developed free or very cheap energy, we wouldn't be at each other's throats.
If you would bother to actually research or pay attention, you might notice that a lot of 'free energy' researchers are stymied by the discovery that there are existing patents already in place, or they wind up dead...
QuoteIf you have a decent place to live and an income, who cares if someone hates you? You associate with whoever you like, you live your life. People are behaving like overcrowded rats in some Calhoun experiment.
Too many distractions designed to keep the masses occupied and focused on nothing other than themselves
QuoteOr we could have gone to Mars or orbiting Earth colonies. We didn't (well, not openly, right?). Maybe we could have cured aging - and stopped the Attention Deficit - quick n' cheap attitude we have every time a long term problem comes up. We're stuck.........
It has been suggested that we are in quarantine here on this blue ball, and we may well be; a cure for aging? There are already more people here than can be fed easily, and quite a few that dont have enough food at any time... 8 billion people and climbing...
It is quite possible that we do possess the tech to expand our horizons, I would not doubt that we do; but we may not be allowed to...
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Seeker
Quote from: the seeker on February 24, 2017, 01:23:38 PM
Noise and smoke to distract everyone away from any issues of import...
If you would bother to actually research or pay attention, you might notice that a lot of 'free energy' researchers are stymied by the discovery that there are existing patents already in place, or they wind up dead...
Too many distractions designed to keep the masses occupied and focused on nothing other than themselves
It has been suggested that we are in quarantine here on this blue ball, and we may well be; a cure for aging? There are already more people here than can be fed easily, and quite a few that dont have enough food at any time... 8 billion people and climbing...
It is quite possible that we do possess the tech to expand our horizons, I would not doubt that we do; but we may not be allowed to...
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Seeker
I agree with all You said EXCEPT that there are "more people here than can be fed easily." In fact, artificial scarcity is created by money systems. We throw out enough food to feed Us all, distributing by profit and not need. If We add recent technologies like vertical farming, We could (but for the profit motive) feed a 1000 times the number here now. This is why I would end the use of money. It creates poverty on a very rich planet. It moves the bulk of the wealth on OUR planet to very Few (psychopaths). It promotes psychopaths to power over the rest of Us. It is the soil in which the root of all evil grows. Remove the soil.....
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 24, 2017, 06:06:08 PM
I agree with all You said EXCEPT that there are "more people here than can be fed easily." In fact, artificial scarcity is created by money systems. We throw out enough food to feed Us all, distributing by profit and not need. If We add recent technologies like vertical farming, We could (but for the profit motive) feed a 1000 times the number here now. This is why I would end the use of money. It creates poverty on a very rich planet. It moves the bulk of the wealth on OUR planet to very Few (psychopaths). It promotes psychopaths to power over the rest of Us. It is the soil in which the root of all evil grows. Remove the soil.....
You're forgetting it is the very qualities of the socio/psychopath that makes them the success they are. They are cutthroat and well-versed in what it takes to become and stay king of the s***heap.
No one is conspiratorially promoting these people in the manner you think. They are ultracompetitive. They want something and they do whatever they have to do to get it. It is their aberrant qualities that make them a success.
This is Capitalism.
Quote from: Irene on February 24, 2017, 06:40:59 PM
You're forgetting it is the very qualities of the socio/psychopath that makes them the success they are. They are cutthroat and well-versed in what it takes to become and stay king of the s***heap.
No one is conspiratorially promoting these people in the manner you think. They are ultracompetitive. They want something and they do whatever they have to do to get it. It is their aberrant qualities that make them a success.
This is Capitalism.
No, I am not forgetting this. BUT... The ONLY tool the psychopaths have to power over Others beyond personal charisma - which does not go far - is money. The ability to pay toadies on large scales to do Their dirty work - armies and strong arms. It is what They have to bribe, set up blackmail scenarios, threaten, ruin and kill (through paid minions) Ones that threaten Them.
I agree that no One is "conspiratorially promoting" these People, these psychopaths, but that money systems INHERENTLY promote psychopaths, They being keenly drawn to the power over Other money provides and are willing to do ANYTHING - literally anything - to get and keep that power.
And since money is merely the accounting of Human energy added into a system that accounts for Human energy added, the only valid function of which is to motivate People to do
necessary work no One WANTS to do, and since We have game-changing technologies that would allow Us to remove the accounting for Human energy, I suggest We push to do just that.
My latest article, up at My humble free forum, that goes into more detail is:
I AM anti-New World Order - A Better Way
http://tapyoureit.boards.net/thread/99/anti-new-world-order
Also, I have a section here, long neglected for a sequence of unfortunate events, with more info (most of which I added to My forum as well):
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=163.0
Amaterasu,
Not until Homo sapiens evolves past his primitive drives will we see the kind of progress you envision.
We are deeply flawed and largely unsuccessful in controlling our impulses. Utopia is a pipe dream.
Irene
Quote from: Irene on February 24, 2017, 07:48:30 PM
Amaterasu,
Not until Homo sapiens evolves past his primitive drives will we see the kind of progress you envision.
We are deeply flawed and largely unsuccessful in controlling our impulses. Utopia is a pipe dream.
Irene
I disagree. The issues in a society beset with psychopaths in control are clear. You may want to watch this, which discusses primary psychopathy (genetic), secondary psychopathy (mind controlled/severely abused), and how it affects society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxB7LqiCsg8
Amaterasu,
By virtue of my former occupation, I am well-versed in socio/psychopaths, rapists, murderers, and thieves, but thanks for the link.
Irene
Please add the mentally ill to that list. There is no such thing as normal.
Quote from: Irene on February 24, 2017, 08:00:21 PM
Amaterasu,
By virtue of my former occupation, I am well-versed in socio/psychopaths, rapists, murderers, and thieves, but thanks for the link.
Irene
Please add the mentally ill to that list. There is no such thing as normal.
Who said anything about "normal?" There are genetic psychopaths (about 1% of Humans), and the rest of Us are non-psychopaths but for about 5% who have been driven to psychopathic behavior by the psychopaths in control.
If You have no interest in seeing this excellent piece addressing what to expect from a society run by psychopaths... Ok. Whatever.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 24, 2017, 08:15:12 PM
Who said anything about "normal?" There are genetic psychopaths (about 1% of Humans), and the rest of Us are non-psychopaths but for about 5% who have been driven to psychopathic behavior by the psychopaths in control.
If You have no interest in seeing this excellent piece addressing what to expect from a society run by psychopaths... Ok. Whatever.
I said "thank you" for the link. :o
I spent three decades dealing with psychos and crazies and every other loon and criminal under the sun. I knew, talked to, and spent a great deal of time observing a very famous serial killer.
Quit while you're ahead.
I am well aware of the fate of free energy inventors and have spent years on the subject. Why not some leaks? Exposures of hidden discoveries? There are ways to disclose the subject and thereby change the world.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/232072/alien_disclosure_tom_delonge_hints_at_big_announcement_within_the_next_60_days/
I posted this separately but it is very interesting - and may be part of the trend I'm hoping for.
Quote from: Irene on February 24, 2017, 08:24:57 PM
I said "thank you" for the link. :o
I spent three decades dealing with psychos and crazies and every other loon and criminal under the sun. I knew, talked to, and spent a great deal of time observing a very famous serial killer.
Quit while you're ahead.
Dealing with individuals does not necessarily give One a perspective on a society run by Them... I apologize if I missread what You were saying - it sounded like You were brushing the piece off.
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 26, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
Dealing with individuals does not necessarily give One a perspective on a society run by Them... I apologize if I missread what You were saying - it sounded like You were brushing the piece off.
I understand your position. You know nothing about my education, training, and credentials.