Things are getting more interesting........NASA gets accused regularly of hiding stuff most every where! But, what is presented in this video seems to be "fact based" in NASA photos. And....a compounding factor is, the "hidden feature" is right in the same area of space as are the constellations Virgo and Leo. It is these two constellations that are being associated with the much-discussed-on-YouTube September 23, 2017 date - and that is also mentioned in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ27rxGMXqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ27rxGMXqs)
Quote from: rdunk on July 07, 2017, 05:59:43 PM
Things are getting more interesting........NASA gets accused regularly of hiding stuff most every where! But, what is presented in this video seems to be "fact based" in NASA photos. And....a compounding factor is, the "hidden feature" is right in the same area of space as are the constellations Virgo and Leo. It is these two constellations that are being associated with the much-discussed-on-YouTube September 23, 2017 date - and that is also mentioned in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ27rxGMXqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ27rxGMXqs)
I'll watch this vid because I keep seeing this date come up again and again on yt.
We've seen dates come and go but I have to know.
It's from SecureTeam 10 ::)
Quote from: The Seeker on July 07, 2017, 09:06:09 PM
It's from SecureTeam 10 ::)
LOL Seeker. I've got a kid older than that guy.
Quote from: biggles on July 07, 2017, 09:13:10 PM
LOL Seeker. I've got a kid older than that guy.
I've got grandkids that are almost that old 8)
::)
Quote from: The Seeker on July 07, 2017, 09:16:45 PM
I've got grandkids that are almost that old 8)
::)
LOL
Religion. My eyes glazed over and I started drooling.
Coincidence?
I think their talking Nibiru again here.
Rdunk thanks for the video honey. xxoo
Quote from: The Seeker on July 07, 2017, 09:06:09 PM
It's from SecureTeam 10 ::)
I don't think SecureTeam 10 makes the photos he is presenting. He does say anyone can go to the pic source sites and see the pics for themselves!
The pic he's trying to show looks like Oscar the grouch 8)
Quote from: rdunk on July 07, 2017, 10:20:05 PM
I don't think SecureTeam 10 makes the photos he is presenting. He does say anyone can go to the pic source sites and see the pics for themselves!
Still doesn't mean it is anything besides a pic of a funny looking star cluster 8)
And I would check the published date and make sure it isn't 4/1
Evenso Rdunk sweetie, thanks again darl. xxoo ;)
I'm going to post the song I'm listening to now for you rdunk, hope you don't mind. xxxooo
well it seems the end of the world happens a lot..bwhahahahahahah
guess we're in the right time line
wow there's a whole bunch of this stuff..
sigh
and no I really didn't listen to either of them
search for sept 23,2017
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=September+23%2C+2017+
and of course
September 23, 2017? What's going to happen? Robert Breaker DEBUNKED
The Vigilant Christian 1 week ago15,831 viewsRobert Breaker, a missionary evangelist has once again posted a video this year (2017) about a possible time of chaos starting ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE4YGD9RSmQ
September 23 2017 Earth Destroyed Debunked - YouTube
Video for debunking sept 23, 2017▶ 3:26https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52Kdu3G0K8
May 3, 2017 - Uploaded by pgfracing
Looking at the false teaching that the world is coming to an end in September 23,2017.
Debunked - an alignment of the visible planets ... - Debunking ...
https://debunkingdoomsday.quora.com/Debunked-an-alignment-of-the-visible-planets-b...
Nov 16, 2016 - ... Night Sky - shows how all the main visible planets will be hidden in the bright area of the sky around the Sun briefly on 23rd September 2017.
September 23 2017 DEBUNKED CHALLENGE l Revelation 12 l ...
Video for debunking sept 23, 2017▶ 5:47abcnewsgo.net/video/yyn_NeVt5BJk
September 23 2017 DEBUNKED CHALLENGE l Revelation 12 l ALREADY HAPPENED? l 9 23 17 alignment ...
Quote from: space otter on July 07, 2017, 10:38:46 PM
well it seems the end of the world happens a lot..bwhahahahahahah
guess we're in the right time line
wow there's a whole bunch of this stuff..
sigh
and no I really didn't listen to either of them
search for sept 23,2017
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=September+23%2C+2017+
and of course
September 23, 2017? What's going to happen? Robert Breaker DEBUNKED
The Vigilant Christian 1 week ago15,831 viewsRobert Breaker, a missionary evangelist has once again posted a video this year (2017) about a possible time of chaos starting ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE4YGD9RSmQ
September 23 2017 Earth Destroyed Debunked - YouTube
Video for debunking sept 23, 2017▶ 3:26https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52Kdu3G0K8
May 3, 2017 - Uploaded by pgfracing
Looking at the false teaching that the world is coming to an end in September 23,2017.
Debunked - an alignment of the visible planets ... - Debunking ...
https://debunkingdoomsday.quora.com/Debunked-an-alignment-of-the-visible-planets-b...
Nov 16, 2016 - ... Night Sky - shows how all the main visible planets will be hidden in the bright area of the sky around the Sun briefly on 23rd September 2017.
September 23 2017 DEBUNKED CHALLENGE l Revelation 12 l ...
Video for debunking sept 23, 2017▶ 5:47abcnewsgo.net/video/yyn_NeVt5BJk
September 23 2017 DEBUNKED CHALLENGE l Revelation 12 l ALREADY HAPPENED? l 9 23 17 alignment ...
I don't read the Bible; But I know enough to know that it says "No One Knows the Time of the End."
Those above should know this by rights.
This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old; many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...
The problem is no one can see past the here and now, which is just one of many stops on the journey...
it's all good 8)
Quote from: The Seeker on July 07, 2017, 11:13:26 PM
This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old; many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...
The problem is no one can see past the here and now, which is just one of many stops on the journey...
it's all good 8)
True Seeker, they can hypothesize, but that's it.
Quote"This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old"
Hi Seeker,
I'm quite surprised rdunk hasn't popped in to correct you. ;D
QuoteSo the creation of Adam and Eve was the beginning, there was no death until Adam sinned, and Eve was the mother of all living. This makes it pretty easy. We just have to add up the dates.
Adam was 130 when Seth was born (Genesis 5:3).
Seth was 105 when Enos was born (Genesis 5:6).
Enos was 90 when Cainan was born (Genesis 5:9).
If you go through the Bible and add up the dates, it is not that hard to do, you will get a date of about 4,000 B.C. for the creation.
So, according to the Bible the earth is about 6,000 years old.
::)
:o
::)
Quote from: biggles on July 07, 2017, 10:42:43 PM
I don't read the Bible; But I know enough to know that it says "No One Knows the Time of the End."
Those above should know this by rights.
I watch a bit of the "debunking', and thought it was pretty poor!
Relative to "No one knows the time of the end", I will post a video that does quite well in addressing this thought specifically. It discusses the differences in what Jesus said about the end time/Rapture when he was human vs what he said about it after his resurrection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXG4Svioys0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXG4Svioys0)
Quote from: The Seeker on July 07, 2017, 11:13:26 PM
This ball of rock and water we call home is 14 billion years old; many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...
The problem is no one can see past the here and now, which is just one of many stops on the journey...
it's all good 8)
One thing for sure, God spoke all that exists into existence, except man.......and he made man from the dust of the Earth, and he made woman from Adam's rib! Of course, "all that exists" could include whatever it takes to make this Earth appear to be 14 billion years old, including whatever artifacts and archeology, if he wanted it that way - to confound the wise!! :)
Of course, isn't the 14 billion years related to the thinking of the "big bang" in that, that 14 billion light years is simply about as far as we can see out there?? Well, if there were to have been a big bang from a single point of beginning, would not there be a giant spherical blank in the cosmos about 28 billions of light years in diameter?? if everything were going away from the center of the big bang, every light year that passes, the Spherical hole would just get bigger and bigger wouldn't it?? So, if right now we can see 14 Billion light years distance from the big bang, then Earth's distance from the point of the big bang would be:
*14 billion light years from the center point of the big bang to the edge of the spherical blank area
*14 billion light years from Earth to as far as we can see backward, whatever direction that might be
*X-teen billions of light years from the furtherest point we can see back to, to the leading edge of the spherical blank area.
So, that such analogy would suggest that Earth is actually 28 billion years old, plus an unknown additional billions of years. :) I am not saying that it is, just say'in that if one believes in the big bang "theory", then there are a lot more years to be noted than just 14B! :)
Can't sleep, so -
Age of the universe estimated to be 14+ billion years old.
Age of Earth estimated to be 4+ billion years old.
Quote from: The Seeker on July 07, 2017, 11:13:26 PM
...many civilizations(at least 4) came before us, and who knows how many more will follow...
That is correct We are the Fifth civilization on this planet... and in Stargate SG1 we discover we are the Fifth Race, still barely out of the cradle and the other 4 old races are still out there waiting for us to grow up
8)
Quote from: zorgon on July 08, 2017, 12:18:07 PM
That is correct We are the Fifth civilization on this planet... and in Stargate SG1 we discover we are the Fifth Race, still barely out of the cradle and the other 4 old races are still out there waiting for us to grow up
8)
Hope springs eternal.
Quote from: rdunk on July 08, 2017, 06:09:32 AM
Of course, isn't the 14 billion years related to the thinking of the "big bang" in that, that 14 billion light years is simply about as far as we can see out there??
If I'm not mistaken, the (almost) 14 billion years is the result of two things, the distance to the farthest known object in the universe and the rate of expansion of the universe.
QuoteWell, if there were to have been a big bang from a single point of beginning, would not there be a giant spherical blank in the cosmos about 28 billions of light years in diameter??
No, thinking of the big bang as an explosion is a common mistake, resulting from the use of "big bang" as a name for the theory.
What the theory says is that the universe is expanding, not exploding.
An analogy is that if the universe at the time of the big bang was a marble, the big bang would have been the sudden start of the expansion of the marble, with every particle of the marble getting farther and farther away from each other, so the marble would keep the same matter while getting bigger and bigger.
...and could that marble be a black hole or holes in another universe/universes?
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/bl2_zps7xo4nna3.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/bl2_zps7xo4nna3.jpg.html)
When matter/light is consumed by a black hole, where does it go? Perhaps into another universe. Black holes continue to consume and universes continue to expand.
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/black-hole-jet-caltech_zpszzmnvigq.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/black-hole-jet-caltech_zpszzmnvigq.jpg.html)
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Quote from: micjer on July 08, 2017, 02:12:37 PM
When matter/light is consumed by a black hole, where does it go? Perhaps into another universe. Black holes continue to consume and universes continue to expand.
Or black holes don't consume anything and just keep on getting more and more massive, until they attract each other, join all in a giant black hole that, because of its mass, will start getting smaller and smaller until it returns to the size before the big bang and starts all over again.
..........Of course, the age of the Universe has nothing to do with the point of intent for this OP!! NASA is either intentionally hiding something, or, they are not!!
Relative to what may be covered in the photo...........as is noted in other videos, Revelation 12 also speaks about "another wonder in heaven - "a great red dragon". It is interesting that the object now mostly covered was formally seen in the IR, and it is RED, and it is seen in the same general area near the Virgo constellation - but now it is covered/hidden??..................Is it intentionally hidden??
ArMaP, did you actually watch the OP video yet, or have you looked for the actual photos discussed in the video??
Quote from: rdunk on July 08, 2017, 04:27:28 PM
ArMaP, did you actually watch the OP video yet, or have you looked for the actual photos discussed in the video??
No, and that's why my posts in this thread were not related to the thread's topic. :)
An 11 minutes video from a known hoaxer is not something I want to spend time with.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 08, 2017, 05:28:04 PM
No, and that's why my posts in this thread were not related to the thread's topic. :)
An 11 minutes video from a known hoaxer is not something I want to spend time with.
Hoaxer or not, his presentations receive a huge amount of attention, and a huge nubber of views, now going for quite a while. Since what he posts is much of what he receives from others, probably will get a "bad egg" every now and then - a marker of the business matter it seems!!
I now have gone to his Google Sky coordinates (as I thought you might do ArMaP - but didn't), and below is the same specific "infrared" pic which he discusses in the OP video. It does show the "black box" covering whatever is behind it. We can see just a small piece of whatever is there, sticking out beyond the edge of the black box.
So, no "hoax" with this photo - just something hidden!!
(https://s1.postimg.org/4of9fqq7j/Screen_Shot_2017-07-08_at_12.15.53_PM.jpg)
Quote from: rdunk on July 08, 2017, 06:30:02 PM
Hoaxer or not, his presentations receive a huge amount of attention, and a huge nubber of views, now going for quite a while.
That's irrelevant. :)
QuoteSo, no "hoax" with this photo - just something hidden!!
(https://s1.postimg.org/4of9fqq7j/Screen_Shot_2017-07-08_at_12.15.53_PM.jpg)
Not hidden, not present.
Googgle sky, like Google Earth, Mars or whatever, is based on mosaics made with thousands of photos, no photos resulting in a black area. That only happens with Google sky because for the Earth or Mars they have lower resolution photos, while for several areas of the sky, at higher resolutions, they do not have any photos.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 08, 2017, 06:54:35 PM
That's irrelevant. :)
Not hidden, not present.
Googgle sky, like Google Earth, Mars or whatever, is based on mosaics made with thousands of photos, no photos resulting in a black area. That only happens with Google sky because for the Earth or Mars they have lower resolution photos, while for several areas of the sky, at higher resolutions, they do not have any photos.
It is very relevant, if you assume that every thing posted there is a "hoax". Under that assumption, most every site like secureteam10, Livingmoon, and etc would be considered as "hoax" sites.
This photo does exist!! It is not an area with no photo taken, as you suggest. I have seen it, before it was covered, on a different video! And, it is red, as with a great Red Dragon, as Revelation 12 presents. And it is in the Virgo constellation, whatever it is!
I think it's just NASA/JPL hiding the Smiley Face constellation, so we don't realize our entire existence is a great cosmic joke.
The first thing I thought was Kubrick's monolith. Does it matter what's behind there? Not really. We can't go there anyway.
I guess I'm feeling intellectually lazy today. Hotter than Hades where I'm at. I'd settle for soaking in a kiddie pool right now.
Besides, we've already seen this pic without the anomaly. Nothing to see here; a smiley face. Move along.
Quote from: rdunk on July 08, 2017, 07:46:17 PM
It is very relevant, if you assume that every thing posted there is a "hoax".
I didn't say that, I said they are known hoaxers.
QuoteUnder that assumption, most every site like secureteam10, Livingmoon, and etc would be considered as "hoax" sites.
Your assumption, not mine. :)
QuoteThis photo does exist!!
Do you read what I write or what you wanted me to write? I wrote "not present", as in "not present in that mosaic".
QuoteIt is not an area with no photo taken, as you suggest. I have seen it, before it was covered, on a different video!
OK, then it means Google didn't put the photo on the mosaic or that they removed it, but if you saw it then it wasn't hidden, right? :)
QuoteAnd, it is red, as with a great Red Dragon, as Revelation 12 presents.
Don't take the colours of sky features like these as granted, most photos have the colours enhanced to make the differences in colour more visible, while others are colourized because they were not captured in visible light, like those photographed in infrared.
I watched the first half or so of the video, and what I could see is that, as expected, even if it's not a hoax, the title is, as it says "What is NASA Hiding In This Area Of Space?" and then goes on to show that it's only visible on a NASA site, so it's just a click-bait title, and it looks like it works. :P
So, we have a photo visible on a NASA site but not visible in other sites, so NASA isn't hiding anything in this case.
One thing I noticed is that photo on NASA's site has a relatively low resolution, as it shows a 7.5 x 7.5 degrees area of the sky, while other photos from other sources have resolutions as high as 0.1 x 0.1 degrees area, meaning that we would need a lot of those photos to see that whole area, but also meaning that we are looking at an area that is (probably) visible to someone with a relatively cheap telescope, although, apparently, only in infrared.
Quote from: Irene on July 08, 2017, 08:59:39 PM
I think it's just NASA/JPL hiding the Smiley Face constellation, so we don't realize our entire existence is a great cosmic joke.
THAT yes LOL precisely :P
http://irsa.ipac.caltech.edu/Missions/iras.html
The picture material which google uses is from 1983/84.
Not thought that so old material is used. Really interesting :)
Quote from: ArMaP on July 08, 2017, 09:46:15 PM
"What is NASA Hiding In This Area Of Space?"
Whether or not it is irrelevant or not depends on what the presenters goal is
If the intent is to share 'truth' then you would expect factual reports with back up evidence and links
If the intent is to make MONEY, the sensational links draw in the crowds
So if you recall back on ATS I dis a study...
One thread was "Fossil Evidence on Mars" and i provided my best case samples and real research, etc... The thread received MANY applauses (ATS way of paying for your content :P ) yet very little views
The two sensational titles I used got hundreds of views, flags and several pages in the first two days. Skeptics descended on it LOL
No it wasn't a "hoax" It was a sensational title with a question mark and it got the attention, the views and the active discussion
The factual thread died quickly because there was no way to debunk it or argue it and no one had anything to add other than "Nice thread" which is not allowed on ATS :P
So I spent 6 years providing good content on ATS so good that they used my Space Command thread to advertise ATS on Twitter
Tabloids make
$$$MONEY$$$
I suspect that September 23, 2017 will be preceded by September 22, 2017, and followed by September 24, 2017. I have other ideas, but those are for another day.
Shasta
Quote from: zorgon on July 09, 2017, 12:58:05 AM
So if you recall back on ATS I dis a study...
I remember that, do you remember that I told you that adding three exclamation points at the end would help have more views? :)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/cookiemonster.jpeg)
They found cookie monsters hideout 8)
Cookies!!!!
I still think John Lenard Walson was the one of the greatest Witch Hunt's on ATS :D
He has SO many up to date video's on his channel that it's mind boggling!
http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson
SO what did the NSA tell Trump when he was briefed? I understand the need for a nation to start a Space Command in Public, but yeah that call to start one is pretty dang interesting for folke like us who wonder ;D
Quote from: Somamech on July 09, 2017, 07:28:33 PM
I still think John Lenard Walson was the one of the greatest Witch Hunt's on ATS :D
He has SO many up to date video's on his channel that it's mind boggling!
http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson
SO what did the NSA tell Trump when he was briefed? I understand the need for a nation to start a Space Command in Public, but yeah that call to start one is pretty dang interesting for folke like us who wonder ;D
Mate, I think you might have posted this in the wrong thread 8)
@ 12:00
QuoteXenon Physics (colorless, odorless poison gas) to be employed/investigated 23 September 2017 at CERN, "resurrecting the DNA of Osiris, of Nimrod."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXpaV-4YmoQ
August 2017 - CERN - LIFTING THE VEIL - YouTube
Alpha Omega Videos
Published on Jun 15, 2017
An April 2017 video, relative to hiding, and then not hidden - a Red Dragon of sorts!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhkMP7a0vgE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhkMP7a0vgE)
Just curious, is this a "NASA is hiding something" thread or a religious thread?
PS: or is it a dump of posts that should go in other threads? :P
Quote from: ArMaP on July 10, 2017, 09:57:20 PM
Just curious, is this a "NASA is hiding something" thread or a religious thread?
PS: or is it a dump of posts that should go in other threads? :P
Obviouusly , it is a NASA hiding something, otherwise I would have posted it at the Religious board!!
Some one/entity is apparently trying to hide "SOMETHING", and NASA was picked as the culprit. It does just so happen, that what is being hidden may have extreme religious implications, according to the Revelation 12 information!!
ArMaP, if you do not watch the videos, then you actually are less qualified to comment, doncha think?? ;) :) :) :)
Quote from: rdunk on July 10, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
An April 2017 video, relative to hiding, and then not hidden - a Red Dragon of sorts!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhkMP7a0vgE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhkMP7a0vgE)
That's only Cool Spot wearing glow-in-the-dark sunglasses.
(http://i.imgur.com/1EQQk0K.jpg)
Quote from: rdunk on July 10, 2017, 10:37:42 PM
Obviouusly , it is a NASA hiding something, otherwise I would have posted it at the Religious board!!
You didn't post it in the NASA section, and NASA isn't hiding the image. :P
QuoteSome one/entity is apparently trying to hide "SOMETHING", and NASA was picked as the culprit.
Probably because it gets more hits, as that's not true, they even show that NASA has the photo online.
QuoteIt does just so happen, that what is being hidden may have extreme religious implications, according to the Revelation 12 information!!
Nothing is being hidden.
QuoteArMaP, if you do not watch the videos, then you actually are less qualified to comment, doncha think?? ;) :) :) :)
No, because I did watch the videos. :P
First, nothing is being hidden, as we can see the photo on NASA's site.
Second, the "red dragon" is not red (and doesn't look like a dragon to me), infrared photos are monochromatic, and that's why we can have a red version, a green version, a yellow to red version, etc.
Third, tying this to a date applies only to the Sun's position, the position of any star is fixed in relation to the other stars.
Fourth, adding Nibiru to the case is another way of getting hits for the videos, as Nibiru is "trending" and will get more hits, but the only thing that links Nibiru to this is ... videos on the Internet that talk about videos on the Internet. :P
So, we have a mix of topics, joined to get the biggest amount of people interested in something that is, in reality, nothing special, just a strange looking photo that we don't even know how was taken. This is the same way Sorcha Fal creates his/her stories, mixing several fantastic ideas with a few verifiable facts, so the people that don't really look for more facts may see things that already know and think (?) "it must be true, I saw a video about that part".
Luckily we just have to wait a few months to see what happens. :)