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Title: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: zorgon on September 04, 2017, 11:59:42 PM
HURRICANE IRMA 

I have been watching Hurricane Irma on Ventusky  That is a really interesting program as you can see changes hourly.

Apparently the predictions of path are fairly accurate up to 5 days out  After that too many variables can effect the direction etc

So for RIGHT NOW  Irma is still a ways out with 60 mph winds

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24;-52;2&l=wind

Tuesday has it just off the Dominican Republic

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24;-52;2&l=wind&t=20170905/22

Wednesday  its just off shore but winds increased

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24;-52;2&l=wind&t=20170906/22

Thursday just off the coast Dominican Republic  winds increased

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24;-52;2&l=wind&t=20170907/21

Friday just off Cuba  higher winds still with a second storm right behind it

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24;-52;2&l=wind&t=20170908/21

Saturday  between Cuba and Florida  yesterday it was right over Havana and stronger so it has already changed

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24.0;-52.0;3&l=wind&t=20170909/21

Then on Sunday it slams into Florida going straight up the center of the state from the Keys to the north

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24.0;-52.0;3&l=wind&t=20170911/03

Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 05, 2017, 12:57:19 AM
Quote from: zorgon on September 04, 2017, 11:59:42 PM

Then on Sunday it slams into Florida going straight up the center of the state from the Keys to the north

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24.0;-52.0;3&l=wind&t=20170911/03
Hopefully it will take a hard right turn and head for Greenland  8) I don't need a flippin' hurricane rolling thru my backyard right now; I have to drive up to Ohio on the 14th  ::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: hoss58 on September 05, 2017, 10:38:19 AM
Yeah...I am not too crazy about a hurricane rolling by my house either, especially since I am only 5 feet above sea level..ugh!! >:(
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 05, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: hoss58 on September 05, 2017, 10:38:19 AM
Yeah...I am not too crazy about a hurricane rolling by my house either, especially since I am only 5 feet above sea level..ugh!! >:(
Hoss, it's up to a strong Cat 4 already and huge, working on becoming a Cat 5; you might want to consider heading for higher ground...
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: petrus4 on September 05, 2017, 12:27:18 PM
Quote from: The Seeker on September 05, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
Hoss, it's up to a strong Cat 4 already and huge, working on becoming a Cat 5; you might want to consider heading for higher ground...

Either higher or lower.  One of the ways in which Americans are more forward thinking than us in Australia, is that apparently basements are a traditional feature of homes.  Bugging in can work; I'm just reading a thread in /r/preppers from someone who just survived Harvey.

Survivalism isn't just a form of therapy for a civilian inferiority complex any more.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2017, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on September 05, 2017, 12:27:18 PM
Either higher or lower. 

Not too many basements in area that are only 5 feet above sea level

:o :o

Be safe Hoss   get out of dodge before the traffic  Just in case....
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: zorgon on September 05, 2017, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: The Seeker on September 05, 2017, 12:57:19 AM
Hopefully it will take a hard right turn and head for Greenland  8) I don't need a flippin' hurricane rolling thru my backyard right now; I have to drive up to Ohio on the 14th  ::)

Well it already veered a little since yesterday  Had it hitting Hvana yesterday Now its showing it stays just offshore between the islands and Cuba  until it hits the Keys


Toss ame Secret at it and move that sucker north...  Then we can tell all the HAARPIES that WE moved it :P
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 05, 2017, 01:34:28 PM
I'm 7.1 ft above sea level here in Belle Chasse, La.
So far it looks like a cold front will keep it out of the Gulf. (hoping that it stays East)....Sorry Seeker.... ;)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 05, 2017, 01:37:48 PM
Quote from: zorgon on September 05, 2017, 01:17:08 PM
Well it already veered a little since yesterday  Had it hitting Hvana yesterday Now its showing it stays just offshore between the islands and Cuba  until it hits the Keys


Toss ame Secret at it and move that sucker north...  Then we can tell all the HAARPIES that WE moved it :P
Have no fear, I am steadily focusing on it moving away from the projected areas; it is now a full blown Cat 5 and growing...They just said winds of 175MPH??

it is already large enough that the outer edges will be affecting south georgia by the time the eye wall approaches Miami...

They just said Irma is the same size as the state of Texas...
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 05, 2017, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 05, 2017, 01:34:28 PM
I'm 7.1 ft above sea level here in Belle Chasse, La.
So far it looks like a cold front will keep it out of the Gulf. (hoping that it stays East)....Sorry Seeker.... ;)
I am concentrating on that dip in the jet stream steering it far east; even tho I am 300 miles from the coast and 1100ft above sea level, several hurricanes in the past have raised pea mortal hell around here as they rolled thru; Opal was the last one, and we didn't have power for 2 weeks  :o
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: ArMaP on September 05, 2017, 02:12:43 PM
Stay safe, everybody.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 05, 2017, 02:23:04 PM
Made this using VENTUSKY

https://youtu.be/ebkVtVFR5S8
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: space otter on September 05, 2017, 03:04:40 PM


stay safe guys..

giving it a big shove to stay out in the atlantic

this is only the beginning...sigh
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: ArMaP on September 05, 2017, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: space otter on September 05, 2017, 03:04:40 PM
giving it a big shove to stay out in the atlantic
I will probably get the end of it (and the end of Harvey), as they usually end up in Europe as just a bit of bad weather.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: fansongecho on September 05, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
Sending ~~~~~~Positive~~~~~ Vibes~~~~~ that Irma takes a hard right before hitting any land - stay safe folks.

*hard-right*
*hard-right*

Fans'
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 05, 2017, 08:09:57 PM
It is 3:05 pm eastern time; Cat 5 185 miles per hour sustained winds tracking west by northwest...

Stay alert and frosty, people; as of right now it could go anywhere...
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 02:34:55 AM
9:30 pm EDT Irma is still a Cat 5, still packing winds of 185 mph gusts even higher

still on track for the Florida keys moving west at 15mph

barometric pressure 915 millibars

bearing down on Antigua
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 06, 2017, 03:00:53 AM
Quote from: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 02:34:55 AM
9:30 pm EDT Irma is still a Cat 5, still packing winds of 185 mph gusts even higher

still on track for the Florida keys moving west at 15mph

barometric pressure 915 millibars

bearing down on Antigua

Seeker, what source are you using? I'd like to look at it too.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 03:07:55 AM
Hurricane central on the weather channel; they are pretty much staying on top of it non-stop; next update from the NWS National Hurricane Centar will be at 11:00 pm EDT
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 06, 2017, 03:39:24 AM
Quote from: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 03:07:55 AM
Hurricane central on the weather channel; they are pretty much staying on top of it non-stop; next update from the NWS National Hurricane Centar will be at 11:00 pm EDT

I don't have cable. Leaves me with more money for books and cat food.

:P :P :P
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: space otter on September 06, 2017, 03:44:15 AM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGORLr9_i4U
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: petrus4 on September 06, 2017, 04:47:49 AM
Is there any manner in which this could have been artificially induced?  I admit that I'm not really familiar with weather control technology.  I've heard rumours, but nothing more.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: zorgon on September 06, 2017, 06:41:38 AM
While we can do minor weather manipulation like cloud seeding etc... we DO NOT yet have the ability to direct or create hurricanes.

I know that the conspiracy world WANTS to believe that and when you tell them otherwise they call you a shill... but it's the truth  We are not at that level yet and a long way away from it

Ventusky has updated the path  It looks like at this time the prediction has it going up the coast just out to sea so Florida will miss the brunt of it IF that pattern holds

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24.7;-70.1;3&l=wind&t=20170911/06

At that direction it will slam into Southern Carolina
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: zorgon on September 06, 2017, 06:46:55 AM
To all you Conspiracy Nuts out there :P (and we do still love ya :P )  Just a question  Are you familiar with the CYCLE of global warming and cooling?  When the temperatures climb  extreme weather increases... that means more ice melting more powerful and weirder storms and that in turn triggers the next global cooling event. The movie "The Day After Tomorrow", while exaggerated to be sure, shows in the opening HOW this works and the model is very accurate.  I recommend watching it 

The ice core samples at Lake Vostok tell you the reality and it has nothing to do with HAARP. The ice cores are like tree rings and do NOT have a politcal agenda nor do they tell lies. These cores are stored in Norway for anyone to check.

You have likely seen my other chart  of the 415,000 year record of temperature from the thickness of the ice layers each year.  This one is more detailed   415,000 years of global warming and cooling  Notice the STEEP changes when it flips and notice the LONG intervals of cold compared to the short warm periods  THIS is why they are trying to manipulate the weather... to prevent or slow down the next ice age  (and I don't think we can 😱 )  Time to stop blaming HAARP and focus on the real problem

(http://www.climate4you.com/images/VostokTemp0-420000%20BP.gif)

I would recommend moving SOUTH of the last ice age limit :P Either that or stock up on boots warm blankets and firewood  OH and some food would be good  non perishables. You don't need to be a survivalist, just be prepared :D  because Texas just showed us how fast things can go bad

Here is the old one

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Seas/415k-year-temp-graph.jpg)

Vostok core sample CO2  levels corresponding to the temps

(http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/vostok_temperature_co2.png)

The MAIN FACTOR to be concerned about is the very sudden change to cold  while the climb back up is very long and slow

Also notice that the difference in temperature is a mere 5 degrees celsius  (GLOBAL ANNUAL AVERAGE  an important point)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: petrus4 on September 06, 2017, 06:51:44 AM
Quote from: zorgon on September 06, 2017, 06:41:38 AM
While we can do minor weather manipulation like cloud seeding etc... we DO NOT yet have the ability to direct or create hurricanes.

I know that the conspiracy world WANTS to believe that and when you tell them otherwise they call you a shill... but it's the truth  We are not at that level yet and a long way away from it.

Thank you, Zorgon.  May I request your interpretation, then, as to the actual cause of the increased frequency of these hurricanes?  My own direct experience has strongly suggested to me that climate change is real, although I truthfully do not know the degree to which it is or is not man made.  I will say however that here in Nimbin I have seen unnaturally straight cloud formations on multiple occasions, which to me are suggestive of chemtrails; but I have not seen those for a couple of years now.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: spacemaverick on September 06, 2017, 06:55:03 AM
Well, I live on the Space Coast of Florida and I await Irma..!!
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: zorgon on September 06, 2017, 07:01:25 AM
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 06, 2017, 06:55:03 AM
Well, I live on the Space Coast of Florida and I await Irma..!!



Well don't hang around on the BEACH    :o


(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21430120_10211824600983619_556752356853365261_n.jpg?oh=891a2b987efc5acffb71bb523e292d0e&oe=5A19CF39)


::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: zorgon on September 06, 2017, 07:04:11 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on September 06, 2017, 06:51:44 AM
Thank you, Zorgon.  May I request your interpretation, then, as to the actual cause of the increased frequency of these hurricanes? 

See the post directly ABOVE yours :P
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: petrus4 on September 06, 2017, 09:48:02 AM
Quote from: zorgon on September 06, 2017, 07:04:11 AM
See the post directly ABOVE yours :P

Thank you.  I will now go and stand in the corner and reflect on what I have done. ;)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 06, 2017, 06:55:03 AM
Well, I live on the Space Coast of Florida and I await Irma..!!
Mav, now would be a good time to load up and ride up to see Atlanta,Brother,for I fear you are going to be in for a hell of a blow...

Even if the eye itself stays off shore, Irma is over 500 miles across.

As of right now it is still a major Cat 5, winds still at 185+ pressure down to 914 millibars

The eye itself is over 50 miles across
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 01:15:51 PM
8 am update on Irma

The eye is 50 miles across

Hurricane force winds extend 90 miles across

tropical storm force winds are 350 miles across

eyewall windspeed is still 185 miles per hour

current pressure is 918 millibars

Puerta Rico is next in line of fire

This is an absolute monster
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: hoss58 on September 06, 2017, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: zorgon on September 05, 2017, 01:14:30 PM
Not too many basements in area that are only 5 feet above sea level

:o :o

Be safe Hoss   get out of dodge before the traffic  Just in case....
Yes thats right Ron, basements are a rare thing in coastal areas and not a common thing here in Florida.

Because you don't have to dig down below frost level for the foundation, most houses are on a slab.

The latest model runs this morning have the storm staying out of the gulf due to the cold front Sarge mentioned  so I should be ok . I just hope the winds don't knock out the power. It gets really boring and uncomfortable(hot) with no electricity here in SW Florida.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Littleenki on September 06, 2017, 02:31:42 PM
Latest GFS runs show a easterly shift Hoss...but were ready as we can be here in Largo...

www.winydty.com

Be safe all!

Cheers
Le
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: space otter on September 06, 2017, 02:34:07 PM


again  strong push hard east  - back to the atlantic

cause there is another one right behind it

stay safe guys
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: ArMaP on September 06, 2017, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on September 06, 2017, 06:51:44 AM
Thank you, Zorgon.  May I request your interpretation, then, as to the actual cause of the increased frequency of these hurricanes?
Cyclones (the "official" name of the atmospheric event that gets different names according to the region it appears on, hurricane in the Americas, typhoon in Asia) are a result of the water of the ocean getting hotter. Hotter water creates lower atmospheric pressures above it and those lower pressures create winds. The lower pressures and hotter water also help evaporation and the creation of clouds. The evaporation and rain then change the temperature of the air and intensify the difference in air pressure, creating even stronger winds.

So, more hurricanes are a consequence of hotter water in the Atlantic ocean close to the tropic. Apparently, this time the temperature is not getting lower and the hurricanes keep on appearing in succession.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
2:00 pm update on Irma

still Cat 5 185 mph winds pressure is currently 920 millibars

possible wind gusts up to 225 mph

still moving west by north west

approaching Puerta Rico

Anguilla and Berbuda got hit hard

Still anticipating a possible turn to the north this weekend in the vicinity of Florida

Mandatory evacuation under way in parts of south Florida
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 06, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: hoss58 on September 06, 2017, 02:15:03 PM
Yes thats right Ron, basements are a rare thing in coastal areas and not a common thing here in Florida.

Because you don't have to dig down below frost level for the foundation, most houses are on a slab.

The latest model runs this morning have the storm staying out of the gulf due to the cold front Sarge mentioned  so I should be ok . I just hope the winds don't knock out the power. It gets really boring and uncomfortable(hot) with no electricity here in SW Florida.

That's why God made books.  ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 06, 2017, 08:53:17 PM
Well just to be on the safe side, this morning I started my generator up and checked all the outlets....runs fine...(although I should look for an electric start genny as I'm too old to be pulling on a start cord (plus the wife would have a hard time if something happened to me).
I've got 25 gallons of gas, (five gallon tank on the genny)
I've got 25 gallons of clean drinking water, plus two bathtubs for flushing.

So I'm good to go.... ;)
8)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
Quote from: zorgon on September 06, 2017, 06:41:38 AM
While we can do minor weather manipulation like cloud seeding etc... we DO NOT yet have the ability to direct or create hurricanes.

I know that the conspiracy world WANTS to believe that and when you tell them otherwise they call you a shill... but it's the truth  We are not at that level yet and a long way away from it

Ventusky has updated the path  It looks like at this time the prediction has it going up the coast just out to sea so Florida will miss the brunt of it IF that pattern holds

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=24.7;-70.1;3&l=wind&t=20170911/06

At that direction it will slam into Southern Carolina
According to that simulation, most of Florida won't get slammed head on, but it does indicate landfall somewhere around Savannah Monday Afternoon; but it also shows that it then heads northwest on an inland track towards Chicago
That figures since I have to go to Masillon Ohio on Thursday  ::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 07, 2017, 12:17:45 AM
Quote from: The Seeker on September 06, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
According to that simulation, most of Florida won't get slammed head on, but it does indicate landfall somewhere around Savannah Monday Afternoon; but it also shows that it then heads northwest on an inland track towards Chicago
That figures since I have to go to Masillon Ohio on Thursday  ::)

Seeker has been sitting one foot from his 72" flat screen since Monday. His eyes are just spirals now and there's a puddle of drool on the bearskin rug under his moccasins.

::) :P ;D
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 07, 2017, 02:38:57 AM
Quote from: Irene on September 07, 2017, 12:17:45 AM
Seeker has been sitting one foot from his 72" flat screen since Monday. His eyes are just spirals now and there's a puddle of drool on the bearskin rug under his moccasins.

::) :P ;D
That would be a 42" flat screen  8) and who needs moccasins?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_monsterfeets.jpg)

I prefer these  :P
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 07, 2017, 02:56:00 AM
Quote from: The Seeker on September 07, 2017, 02:38:57 AM
That would be a 42" flat screen  8) and who needs moccasins?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_monsterfeets.jpg)

I prefer these  :P

Polar bear, ey?

I AM a polar bear. I have a 32" and I only wear slippers when it's below 0°F.  :P
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 07, 2017, 02:59:06 AM
Quote from: Irene on September 07, 2017, 02:56:00 AM
Polar bear, ey?

I AM a polar bear. I have a 32" and I only wear slippers when it's below 0°F.  :P
They match the rest of my wardrobe  8)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/hagar1.jpg)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 07, 2017, 03:46:25 AM
Waiting on the next NHC update at 11:00 pm; of note is tropical storm Jose; it is following along behind Irma, yet has just been forecast to become a hurricane later tonight;

this may be a succession of storms strolling across the Atlantic...

it has happened before
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: A51Watcher on September 07, 2017, 03:46:36 AM

I have lived through 2 major hurricanes.

To use an old phrase - they truly put the fear of God in ya!

Ok friends, keep your heads down and hold on tight, this is a true monster on the loose.

May The Fates be with you all as well!


Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 07, 2017, 01:36:07 PM
Here is the list of Hurricanes that I have personally experienced:

Audrey 1957
Ethel 1964
Hilda 1964
Betsy 1965
Bob 1979
Danny 1985
Juan 1985
Florence 1988
Andrew 1992
Lili 2002
Cindy 2005
Katrina 2005
Rita 2005
Humberto 2007
Gustav 2008
Isaac 2012

(Plus a couple of Typhoons when I was stationed overseas)
8)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Littleenki on September 07, 2017, 08:18:52 PM
For weather to be controlled in the form of a vast low pressure system, the energy involved would have to be unbelievable, Im no math whiz but Im sure someone somewhere has done the math as to how much energy would be needed to change such a system even a hundredth of a percent...as for me, its all Mother Nature, no doubt, and we are spoiled children in need of a spanking sometimes, hence various disasters..maybe the frequency is rising due to the frequency of people going insane and becoming drooling sheep..who knows.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 08, 2017, 01:58:07 AM
Dave, it looks like you are in the bullseye; I hope you have nailed everything down and headed for a safer area...

at this time it appears all of Florida is at major risk: still a Cat 5  winds of 175 mph  pressure at 919 millibars

it isn't slowing down or weakening; Georgia and the Carolinas are also in the red zone...

hopefully everyone is paying attention and preparing
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Shasta56 on September 08, 2017, 02:13:36 AM
Sometimes I really don't like living in a land locked state.  This is not one of those times.  Please be safe kids!

Shasta
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 08, 2017, 04:06:27 AM
Been watching Erich von Däniken half the day. How's everyone doing down there?

Seeker, have you got those polar bear slippers nailed down? Looks like it's going to be the worst in recorded history.

:(

Stay safe and stay in touch everyone.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: A51Watcher on September 08, 2017, 07:43:01 AM

ISS Pass Over Hurricane Irma 9/7/2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-mBf0rjXpc


Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 08, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
Monster feet are secured and accounted for,progress being made on moving all the plants inside,securing all the outside items and basically getting ready for what comes our way

we did have a cold front come thru, temps been in the low 50's the last 2 nights, and day time humidity has been in the 30 % range; that should help take some of the pop out of Irma if it tracks north over land

Jose is also a cat 3 and approaching Anguilla and Barbuda for round 2  ::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: A51Watcher on September 08, 2017, 09:12:48 PM

Orlando man gives last generator to crying Lowe's customer -

http://www.wral.com/orlando-man-gives-last-generator-to-crying-lowe-s-customer/16934082/ (http://www.wral.com/orlando-man-gives-last-generator-to-crying-lowe-s-customer/16934082/)


Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: A51Watcher on September 08, 2017, 10:01:06 PM


Here's a comparison of Hurricane Andrew vs Irma, for those who have been through one before -


(http://apps.startribune.com/blogs/user_images/pauldouglas_1504841442_tweet%20comparison.gif)



Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 08, 2017, 10:08:33 PM
I see there's another one on the heels of Jose.

This is absolutely insane.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: ArMaP on September 08, 2017, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: Irene on September 08, 2017, 10:08:33 PM
I see there's another one on the heels of Jose.

This is absolutely insane.
At the moment there are 3 active hurricanes with category above 2, and it's only the second time that has been recorded, the last time was in 1893, and it's the first time there are 2 active hurricanes of category 4 or above.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: fansongecho on September 08, 2017, 11:30:00 PM
Are you folks on that side of the pond hearing any news on what Katia is doing ?.. there is no news on Katia in the UK .. 

We see Jose is reported as Cat-4 Hurricane, and I watched the news tonight showing the destruction of the Brit territories by Irma .. all flattened ...  only shells left of buildings  :( :(  with Jose not far behind ..

I am guessing that this is the first instance in history of 2 x CAT 5/4 barrelling in so soon after each other?

And we heard that there is to be a mass 20Million people evac of Florida?? how will the road / rail /air support such a exodus ?

Good luck everyone who is within the strike distance of this mutha of a storm, I hope she veers off east as fast as possible.

I also looked at the comparison graphic of Andrew vs Irma..  I have no words on that if it is true  :( :( :o

Thinking of you folks out there - Good luck,

Fansongecho ((hugs))
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: astr0144 on September 08, 2017, 11:46:26 PM
There was what seemed like a really good article on yahoo earlier that I wanted to post on Irma,

but they seem to alter things on their some of their webpages and so often articles and things seem to disappear..

Often their suggested topic articles that you click on... now appear with other topic related articles..

as its on a type of news page... and it dont take long before something has replaced the one you were earlier looking at.. and when you check back in your history to try to find it.... when you open it.. it does not always appear as it was before..

such as say certain images have changed or disappeared that I wanted to post..

At the time it was being shown, I did not have the time to copy it..


Richard bransons Island home has been destroyed by it..

Sir Richard Branson says Necker Island 'completely and utterly devastated' by Hurricane Irma

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sir-richard-branson-says-necker-205044176.html

Hope members in the Area are well prepared...or have moved out..!

Sgt Still standing and Surviving them all !

I dont think that I have ever known 200 MPH winds..
Cannot even image how that must feel.

Sgt.Rocknroll
QuoteHere is the list of Hurricanes that I have personally experienced:
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: astr0144 on September 08, 2017, 11:59:50 PM
Found the article that I referred to last post..

a bit long with too many images to post the whole of it..

This was the image (and some others) that I referred to..

It shows some good maps that show when and what dates Irma is expected to hit as it moves thru Florida to the other parts of Southern USA..

If it does take that path all the way... you would think that it was being made to do so by some unknown forces..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJMMtwrXgAAhJzV.jpg)

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/hurricane-irma-pummels-turks-caicos-065835777.html

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Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: spacemaverick on September 09, 2017, 12:57:16 AM
I live in Melbourne Florida and just waiting for Irma.  Still working security at the railroad until midnight.  Will hunker down at the house.  My house was built in 1964 and weathered many hurricanes.  Roof was replaced in the past 3 years, storm windows with shutters and comfort food..Bring it on Irma.  The only time to panic is when true Floridians panic.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Shasta56 on September 09, 2017, 02:26:29 AM
Fans,
I don't recall the U.S. getting back to back major storms like this year.  I remember hearing about plenty of hurricanes, but not like now.  The Denver Post ran an article on it in this morning's paper.  I'm still very glad, right now, that I live in a landlocked state.

Shasta
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2017, 05:19:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT33FKsG3c8

What I Hate - Merle Haggard

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/CAT5_sept_6.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Scientists_baffled.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Home_Team_not_good.png)

That purple circle is the Rabun Mothership.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/4_Atlantic_hurricanes.png)

800-342-3557 is the number to call for help evacuating in Florida.

Florida Transportation Hotline: 800-955-5504

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/optree_DRTcard.png)

Lightning melted the home phone, so this is my home cell wifi: 478-202-8041
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 09, 2017, 12:29:42 PM
Quote from: Shasta56 on September 09, 2017, 02:26:29 AM
Fans,
I don't recall the U.S. getting back to back major storms like this year.  I remember hearing about plenty of hurricanes, but not like now.  The Denver Post ran an article on it in this morning's paper.  I'm still very glad, right now, that I live in a landlocked state.

Shasta

2005
Cindy
Katrina
Rita
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: astr0144 on September 09, 2017, 06:31:58 PM
It seems from the map Thor that you may have to Tuesday I think if Irma follows the path in the speed and direction as suggested..

I assume maybe that it will have lost some of its power by then...so maybe you will stay in place.. like Spacemav, and Sgt..but some like Hoss maybe better to leave the area if possible.

I dont know if I have seen a Hurricane suggested to take such a path right all along the Florida coast the way the map indicates before in past ones..Im sure members in the area will be well aware !  its surprising how many are in that area.

Otherwise Your Mothership may have to take a flight or end up having to take off via Irmas power !....

I hope it does not end up being the latter !

and that you do not have to await to Monday // tuesday to decide what to do if you have a plan B ... that may require to leave the area..which may then be not possible..



Quote
That purple circle is the Rabun Mothership.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: petrus4 on September 09, 2017, 06:58:10 PM
Stay safe, Thor.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 10, 2017, 02:24:47 AM
Check this out. The Bahamas after Irma moved through. The ocean is gone!

https://youtu.be/eRnWmSMEmpM
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 10, 2017, 03:19:07 AM
Thorfourwimds is nestled in the mountains in the upper eastern corner of Georgia; Little Enki is in Key Largo, Florida; Hoss58 is in southwest Florida; spacemaverick is in Melbourne, Florida; I am in northwest Georgia 1/4 mile from I-20, 19 miles from Alabama

it is going to be getting very interesting for all of us over the next 48 hours; key west and key largo are getting sustained winds of 36 mph and gusts at 67 mph right now as Irma is beginning its turn north...

::)

Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Shasta56 on September 10, 2017, 03:47:19 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 09, 2017, 12:29:42 PM
2005
Cindy
Katrina
Rita

I was working nights full time and going to nursing school full time.  2005 is pretty much a blank space other than that. 

Shasta
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 10, 2017, 05:10:35 AM
Blank space unless you experienced it. It wasn't fun, believe me.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: astr0144 on September 10, 2017, 03:32:54 PM
Thanks for the info Seeker,

For some reason I had not noted what area you lived.. I think I thought that you were in the Mid or more towards the West, not on the Eastern side nearer to Thor.

Its to hope that maybe those listed are able to prepare and get thru Irma should be become maybe one of the Worst or strongest on record...(Not sure which has been the worst/ strongest prior)

Hope you can all survive to keep us updated.

and that all your properties remain in tact as well as can be.

I suspect that you all have to,  or are strongly advised to obtain special Hurricane Insurance...

Quote from: The Seeker on September 10, 2017, 03:19:07 AM
Thorfourwimds is nestled in the mountains in the upper eastern corner of Georgia; Little Enki is in Key Largo, Florida; Hoss58 is in southwest Florida; spacemaverick is in Melbourne, Florida; I am in northwest Georgia 1/4 mile from I-20, 19 miles from Alabama

it is going to be getting very interesting for all of us over the next 48 hours; key west and key largo are getting sustained winds of 36 mph and gusts at 67 mph right now as Irma is beginning its turn north...

::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: spacemaverick on September 10, 2017, 05:46:15 PM
Getting some of the outer rain bands now.  Some tornados in Palm Bay just below Melbourne tore up some trailers.  No one hurt.  I always stay prepared for whatever might happen weather wise or otherwise.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Irene on September 10, 2017, 07:37:47 PM
Just read that water was sucked out of Tampa Bay just like in the Bahamas.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10/hurricane-irma-sucks-away-tampa-bay-water.html
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 10, 2017, 09:02:36 PM
Irma is making landfall at Naples right now, pressure is 940 millibars, appears it may be diminishing (hopefully) and will continue to do so

Irma needs to fade away; quickly













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Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: astr0144 on September 11, 2017, 04:39:59 PM
Sir Richard Branson reveals devastation to Necker Island as Hurricane Irma rages on.

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The damage caused by Irma on Necker Island and to Richard Bransons Properties is quite unbelievable !  :o


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QuoteSir Richard Branson has described first-hand the devastation that Hurricane Irma has left behind after "the eye of the storm" raged through his privately owned Necker Island in the Caribbean.
Richard Branson's home in Necker Island in the Caribbean has been destroyed by Hurricane Irma

The billionaire Virgin boss is in Puerto Rico and has shared shocking images and videos on social media of flattened buildings, trees, and rising swamps as his family take in the full impact of the natural disaster on their home.

Record-breaking Irma swept across Necker and the British Virgin Islands before reaching Florida, and in an emotional message, Branson said his home had been "destroyed" and had felt the "full force" of the huge storm
Richard Branson's Twitter

Writing from Puerto Rico, he said: "As you can see from the photos, much of the buildings and vegetation on Necker has been destroyed or badly damaged.

"We felt the full force of the strongest hurricane ever in the Atlantic Ocean.

"But we are very fortunate to have a strong cellar built into Necker's Great House and were very lucky all of our teams who stayed on Island during the storm are safe and well."

"The UK government will have a massive role to play in the recovery of its territories affected by Irma – both through short-term aid and long-term infrastructure spending.

"The region needs a "Disaster Recovery Marshall Plan" for the BVI and other territories that will aid in recovery, sustainable reconstruction and long-term revitalisation of the local economy."

Hurricane Irma is the most powerful Atlantic hurricane ever recorded, according to The National Hurricane Centre in the USA, with winds as strong as 295 KM/H.
Sam Branson (Instagram)

The governor of Florida declared a State of Emergency for the entire state and enforced a mandatory evacuation order for people to leave the area in advance of the arrival of Irma.

Branson's son, Sam Branson, also appealed for people to stay calm in the Virgin Islands in a series of videos shared on Instagram, and said some had been fighting each other for supplies. He also said 250 US Marines had arrived to help locals.

Meanwhile, earlier this week, his father vowed to do whatever he can to support and assist the local community in "this extremely testing time".

Speaking to Virgin colleagues via a satellite phone that was "just about working", Branson said: "It is a traumatic time here in the British Virgin Islands."
(Twitter)

"Hurricane Irma is continuing a path of destruction that brought the eye of the storm to Necker Island, Moskito Island and the whole surrounding area."

He added: "I have never seen anything like this hurricane.

"Necker and the whole area have been completely and utterly devastated. We are still assessing the damage, but whole houses and trees have disappeared.

(Click the image below to see the full scale of devastation caused by Irma)
Leverick Bay on Virgin Gorda (Sam Branson's Instagram)

"Outside of the bunker, bathroom and bedroom doors and windows have flown 40 feet away."

Branson bought the island for $180,000 when he was a 28-year-old music executive and it was uninhabited. He spent three years and almost $10 million turning it into a private island retreat.

The storm was upgraded from a Category Two to One, and is currently belting out 170km/h winds over the city of Tampa, Florida.

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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sir-richard-branson-reveals-devestation-necker-island-hurricane-irma-rages-084142072.html

Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: astr0144 on September 11, 2017, 11:19:18 PM
After watching a news report on Iram,

It is suggested that it has not been as bad so far as it could have been..

Miami Got severely flooded but , did not get severe damage..

and Irma took more towards the North west of Florida to Tampa.

Winds were about 140 MPH, but have calmed down under 100 mph as it headed to Georgia..

It was suggested that it started from Eithiopia , Africa..but later started to became a Hurricane as it passed over the Eastern Atlantic.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 12, 2017, 03:02:00 AM
It's only no. 7

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/09/10/hurricane-expert-klotzbach-irma-at-landfall-comes-in-7th-behind-1935-labor-day-storm/
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 12, 2017, 03:18:12 AM
Thankfully, Irma is just about done  8) As luck would have it, Irma did make landfall and traveled over land instead of on the warm waters of the Gulf, which helped to degrade it quickly

As an added plus, the temperature here in north Georgia today was between 58-60 degrees all day, which helped block most of the strong winds from reaching ground level

Florida was battered, but all in all, the extent of damage was far less than what was expected; hopefully hoss58, littleenki, spacemaverick, and Thor came thru in good shape

Seeker
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: micjer on September 12, 2017, 01:10:56 PM
That's good news.

CNN tried their best to make it worse than it was!  Still lots of clean up and power lines to fix in Fla.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: spacemaverick on September 17, 2017, 05:34:03 AM
Well, we made it through Irma with only a downed fence.  We were without power for maybe a day in our neighborhood.  Others had it much worse in our area.  Kudos to all those (to include linemen) that are putting our infrastructure back together.  Linemen from all over the USA coming in to help.  Our trains are running again.  Food shelves slowly being replenished. Watching businesses giving away food to help those who have nothing now.  It gives me hope watching Americans helping Americans no matter the ethnic origin.  The American spirit still lives in the majority of the people.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 17, 2017, 06:55:48 AM
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 17, 2017, 05:34:03 AM
Well, we made it through Irma with only a downed fence.  We were without power for maybe a day in our neighborhood.  Others had it much worse in our area.  Kudos to all those (to include linemen) that are putting our infrastructure back together.  Linemen from all over the USA coming in to help.  Our trains are running again.  Food shelves slowly being replenished. Watching businesses giving away food to help those who have nothing now.  It gives me hope watching Americans helping Americans no matter the ethnic origin.  The American spirit still lives in the majority of the people.
Glad to hear that, mav  8) after seeing the footage from key west...
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Littleenki on September 17, 2017, 02:28:52 PM
Powers back on...a testament to preparation...

1: watch the models closely and dont let the mass media hype make your decisions for you.

2: as soon as the possibility of a hit exists, however early it might seem..prepare first aid and triage plans, get fuel(propane/gasoline/diesel), and prepare for power outages by finding a generator, or if you have one..take it out fire it up and run it for a while..get ample ext cords prepared and in place so you dont stumble around in the dark.

3:Separate food items into what you want and what you can throw away beforehand, so your time keeping coolers open and such is minimal.

4:Have Ice if you must..but the best thing is a icemaker run off a small generator or solar/battery setup.

5: If you have a pool, shock it beforehand, and make sure to clean out all debris as soon as the storm passes, to prevent it from blooming with algae..shock it every other day and use the water if you need it for bathing and flushing toilets.

6: Park vehicles where they will be able to get out if trees fall in the way of the usual parking spot, clear all loose items from your yard, and also your neighbors yards if they dont or cant.

7: Keep a fogger or lots of off handy

8: have a firearm nearby at all times, and always lock your doors when you go in and out..watch your neighborhood closely and dont drop your guard

9:alert friends and family asap afterwards you are ok, they will be worried and may not be able to reach you through normal channels for a while.

10: Dont be afraid to sit in the car with a/c, but make sure it is in a well ventilated parking area, away from walls or landscaping that can trap fumes.

Theres more Im sure, but these are my keypoints, and theyve worked well for us more than a few times.

All we had was some fence damage and some landscaping damage, no power for 6 days, but we lived in my motorhome next to the house for the week)120 gallon fuel tank and 6000 watt generator.. and had wifi thanks to t-mobiles lte hotspot the entire time..we used the rv refrig to save the meats and more important foods...we still have 50 gallons in the motorhome, 12 gallons in fuel jugs, and two cars and a van full of fuel, so we couldve went for a while longer..it pays to be ready...and it hurts to take your safety and comfort for granted.

Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Littleenki on September 17, 2017, 02:40:50 PM
The front that hung over Tampa for most of Irmas run saved the west coast, Im glad to hear everyone is ok with minor issues, it seems to be the case around here in the Tampa area.

If that front hadnt pulled northward when it did, Irma wouldve skirted the west coast of Fla and then went straight up into Alabama and the panhandle as a cat 3-4 which wouldve been catastrophic for the eastern gulf beaches...

I used all the maps and info from the nhc as a guide, and avoided the tv media 100 percent, and was able to predict exactly where she would go once it was on the Key West 248 nm radar.

Slightly East of Key West, up through the everglades, through Arcadia and Lakeland, skirting Orlando and up through Leon county..spot on.

Also using windyty.com and flhurricane.com I was able to get animated model runs and concise commentary on Irma from weather experts,  not some guy or gal in a suit who has a bachelors in meteorology and a laptop, but people who actually experience weather and predict it through real science with uncanny accuracy.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: space otter on September 17, 2017, 02:46:58 PM


glad to hear you guys are ok

but more is on the way..

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/tropical-storm-maria-threatens-caribbean-as-lee-forms-in-atlantic/ar-AAs1hEi

Three storms are swaggering through the Atlantic, with one already a hurricane and another forecast to strengthen and threaten areas battered by Hurricane Irma last week.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Littleenki on September 17, 2017, 03:40:24 PM
Indeed!

Be vigilant...current models show Lee weakening and not threatening the mainland US, Jose will be a situation for the Northeast, but likely no more than an angry noreaster...Maria is modelling out to move east of the Bahamas, and then its anyones guess...

www.flhurricane.com (forum with many current and retired meteorologists sharing their predictions and observations)
www.windyty.com (animated graphics of the NAM, GFS, and ECM models on an easy to view map with numerous elements on the sidebar to discern specific storm features)
www.wunderground.com (easiest radar interface)

Read my above list of preparedness and live by it best you can...it has served me and mine well.

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 17, 2017, 08:25:49 PM
Good to hear from you, Dave  8) a very concise and to the point prep list  :P

Just stay frosty and keep a leary eye out for Maria, my friend...

Seeker
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Shasta56 on September 18, 2017, 04:19:27 AM
The last I saw, Maria was on the same path as Irma.  Things can change quickly, so maybe it won't make landfall.  The Golden Girls made Miami look like the ideal retirement area.  No thank you.

Shasta
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: fansongecho on September 18, 2017, 04:27:43 PM

Hi Folks,

How is Houston doing now?, we have not seen any coverage since Irma smashed the Caribbean and into Florida - Did FEMA get to work on Houston in time after the storm ? is it getting back to normal ?

Fingers crossed that the other storms don't gather anymore power and miss landfall in the Caribbean / Florida
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Littleenki on September 18, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
Maria is still modelled pretty solid to go east of the Bahamas, while Jose will do a loop or two after scraping the east coast and then dissipate out in the Atlantic most likely, Lee is a weak low...not much going on there, but there is another low behind Lee to watch..vigilance is the best tool at this point, use those links I shared and be safe!

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: The Seeker on September 19, 2017, 02:21:54 AM
Stay alert people  8) Maria went from a tropical storm to a cat 5 in less than 24 hours and is making a bee line foe Puerta Rico...

::)
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: spacemaverick on September 19, 2017, 02:25:35 AM
No matter where these storms systems are, I am always ready.
Title: Re: HURRICANE IRMA
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 19, 2017, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 19, 2017, 02:25:35 AM
No matter where these storms systems are, I am always ready.

Anyone that lives in a Hurricane prone area and are not prepared, then shame on them.
If you live in a Hurricane area, have plenty of water, gas, working generator and food.
If you live in a flood prone area, raise your house or buy a boat. (plus have the above on hand)
If you live in a wooded area, make sure the trees are trimmed. (plus have the above on hand)
Side note: make sure your flood insurance is paid up.

There's a cost to living in an area you love. BE PREPARED....

8)