Pegasus Research Consortium

I have a somewhat pathological phobia of mobile phones, particularly smartphones.  I've owned two of them in the past, but generally threw them away within 24 hours of purchase.  There are truthfully few forms of technology in existence, that in the past at least, I have felt more fear and loathing towards.

Yet today, I finally decided to cease agonising over it, and purchased a Doogee S60 from Ebay.  I have been painfully socially isolated for far too many years; and I've realised that, despite how smartphone averse I might be, that desperately needs to change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItTZMHQ53Gg

I did probably six hours of research into different phones to try and figure out the right one to get.  The Doogee S60 is considered marginally unfavourable in terms of its' processor, camera, and single external speaker, yet I felt that its' other benefits outweighed those disadvantages.

a}  I am completely new to taking photos anyway, so definitely don't need the world's most powerful camera.

b}  At 5580 mAh, its' battery size is very mid range, if not the biggest out there, and will apparently give me 9-12 hours of continual operation.

c}  Most importantly, this is a phone which will not break if I drop it.  I've seen lots of people with phones where the glass screen always has this big crack right in the middle of it; I've decided that I don't want that to happen to me.  I can, however, be a very clumsy and unco-ordinated person, which means that this phone is going to get dropped on the floor or sent flying off my table, even if completely unintentionally.

d}  At $380 AUD (apparently about $240 USD) I feel that this is fairly decent value.  It isn't an IPhone X, and I didn't want it to be, but it will get me into the proverbial game.

I know some people are likely to respond to this with the suggestion that I'm about to become a drone; and truthfully my fear of that has been the main cause of my refusal to buy a phone before this point.  I've seen the photos of people who sit face to face at tables and don't say a word, while texting each other on their mobile phones.  I've also read about car drivers crashing while texting, people taking their mobile phone to bed and to the toilet, and seen photos of teething babies gnawing on mobile phones in their cots.  When it comes to mobile phone horror stories, if you've seen it, then chances are I have too.  I've spent years regarding them as a literally supernaturally evil piece of technology.

The thing that I realised recently though, is that in terms of being a drone, I'm already there.  I usually spend probably 98% of my waking time on a computer, and I've done that for the majority of my life, now.  So getting a phone isn't going to tie me more securely to the technology than I already am.  What it will do, however, is enable me to get up, move around, and finally go outside the various bedrooms that I've now largely kept myself confined to for 25 years.

I agree. A device that was marketed as a way to keep us closer together has done just about everything but that. With exception of the occasional car crash, it doesn't really bring us together in person. A few years ago my wife and I would talk all the way through dinner. Now, since we text each other all day, by the time we get home from work, we barely say much at all. 200 texts a day and when I finally see her, it's just like "hi" because I'm not gonna ask how her day was because she's been telling me about it all day. We go out to dinner and there's 8 people sitting at a table and they are all staring at their hand. I don't even have fakebook or anything like that because I don't wanna know what everybody is doing every minute. When we talked about it my wife just said yeah, that's true. Now we just text an occasional hey, unless her company needs a favor from mine, and we no phones at the dinner table for us or the kids, and things have dramatically changed. Off the record though, if you have Nintendo roms, I don't see a reason to leave the house lol

I think I will be recording myself a bit.  There are already plans for a recorded visit to the local supermarket, complete with idiotic voice commentary.  I think I'm going to have to work on a script for that.  Now that I've got good upload speed, I should probably work on some more Minecraft videos as well, come to think of it.

Drop a link. One of mine likes mine craft videos.

 
well i'm glad for you guys and your phones...
but i continue to think of them as leashs...
you are tied with this leash to ? ? ?


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Do you have a cell phone space otter? If you don't, seriously (no sarcasm here) that's impressive.

no  i do not have a cell phone or plan on getting one

here's a little story for ya..
we are getting old and couple of years ago i got  one of those flip phones so when hubby goes hunting  he can let me know he got to camp safely..but when he got there  he found out that
there's no service there..bwhahahahahah...
flip phone went to charity

and i am on  a desk computer with dsl and not wifi and when it crashes i'm done with being on line.

what can i say.. i'm not connected..oh yeah and i still pay cash for things so if it goes to plastic ..well you get the picture

Wow! Mind blown  ;D

space otter is not the only Pegasus member without a cell phone, I don't have one either, and never had. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on March 15, 2018, 09:14:49 AM
space otter is not the only Pegasus member without a cell phone, I don't have one either, and never had. :)

Vulcans don't need cell phones  8) y'all mind meld and since you are part Borg you probably have a built in wi-fi router/ bluetooth combo
    :P

Quote from: The Seeker on March 15, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
Vulcans don't need cell phones  8) y'all mind meld and since you are part Borg you probably have a built in wi-fi router/ bluetooth combo
    :P

I don't use wireless connections, they are too slow.

Quote from: ArMaP on March 15, 2018, 01:47:25 PM
I don't use wireless connections, they are too slow.

oh, so you have a usb port  :P
hard wired sounds right  :P

Quote from: The Seeker on March 15, 2018, 01:56:17 PM
oh, so you have a usb port  :P

No, I don't have implants, my elder sister is the one with a pump on his head.

Armap
i know you have a good command of english so i am laughing  at your pronouns

QuoteNo, I don't have implants, my elder sister is the one with a pump on his head.

That's what happens when I write a post in a hurry. :)

Obviously, she has a pump in her head, not in someone else's head.  ;D

ah heck and here i thought your sister was both his and hers..
you've spoiled my chuckle... :P

Despite it costing nearly $400, it will probably go in the bin as soon as it gets here.  I've had angina thinking about it.  Given how evil I believe smartphones are, I'm not sure what caused me to buy one.

Actually I do know.  It's because I want to find a concrete reason for being grateful to be alive in the current society; and I figured that ending my current isolation might be an important first step to doing that.

I just wish that said society wasn't such an amoral, dystopian pile of dung.

hey

life is what you make it.. give yourself a good shake and find a positive use for the phone..
you can't change society ..you can only change yourself
if you toss that amount of cash and an item you have just tossed your reason to move on..
help yourself
work on feeling less like whatever it is you feel and move to what you would like to be..
only you can do that..
good luck

Yo buddy petrus4:

Interesting facts to aid you in your quest/decision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt3OwGMnHwc
URGENT WARNING - What YOU need to know about 5g Technology

Published on Dec 9, 2017
Cancer, autism, nervous system and brain damage, decline in human life spans and fertility rates, sperm counts, depression and ANXIETY.... all side effect of 5g radiation. Please research this subject immediately and go to the school board meetings and the town hall meetings to keep this far away from our school children, if that is even possible.

People love their iPhones and iPads and WiFi more than their own lives it seems. They turn a blind eye to the very real health risks and repercussions of these cell towers... because they don't want to give up the toys (cellular smart phones and wifi devices)

It's just a sad fact of our fallen culture. Perhaps the EMP or Solar Flare taking down this dangerous radiation grid isn't such a bad thing in the long run.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLDdS4_Qneg
Wireless Warfare Exposed - Declassified Military Doc Proves Smart Phones Are Killing Mankind


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhOWCiw_iXs
KILL GRID: 5G Networks And Frequency Warfare


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep6V24zcqs
Hidden Cell Phone Secrets Exposed (Illuminati Exposed)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c509duCxyhE&t=844s
5G Death Towers: Whistle Blower blows lid off 5G Death Towers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYKPvPbm2jA
Find Out Who's Tracking You Through Your Phone

Enjoy.

Thor, I thank you for those videos.  Truthfully I already know about the malevolent intentions with which mobile phones have been invented; said awareness has prevented me from buying one for a long time.

I've realised, however, that at this point, I fundamentally have two choices.  I can commit suicide, or I can try and live in the world as it exists, rather than as I would prefer it to be.  I don't want to commit suicide, so I am going to try and adapt.

There are some here who might tell me that suicide is actually the morally preferable option.  I might even agree with them in theory, but I don't want to die yet.

Quote from: petrus4 on March 19, 2018, 08:30:33 AM
There are some here who might tell me that suicide is actually the morally preferable option.  I might even agree with them in theory, but I don't want to die yet.

And some might say that getting a phone is suicide. :)

Quote from: petrus4 on March 19, 2018, 08:30:33 AM
I've realised, however, that at this point, I fundamentally have two choices.  I can commit suicide, or I can try and live in the world as it exists, rather than as I would prefer it to be.  I don't want to commit suicide, so I am going to try and adapt.

Petrus, as always you have free choice and free will in all things; but don't push the reset button, unless you just want to come back and do it all over again

QuoteThere are some here who might tell me that suicide is actually the morally preferable option.  I might even agree with them in theory, but I don't want to die yet.

Please point me to any who would suggest that so I can smack them with a carp  8)
you are too far away for me to travel there, but I will see if I can get Soma or Biggles to drop by and smack you a time or two  8)

seeker

Very nice striper, Thor; but remember, a one-armed man like me could use a wee bit smaller one as a slap jack  8) but we can arrange to cook that sucker up with some fries and hush puppies along with a side of coleslaw  8)

I missed the delivery to my house, and now I'm going to have to go and track it down at some depot somewhere, because it's a courier company and not Australia Post.  I am debating whether or not to bother, although I will likely ring the courier company in the morning, if I'm up at the time.

I just wish getting the phone didn't feel like such an act of self-betrayal, because I also feel like I need it to move forward.

Quote from: petrus4 on March 20, 2018, 08:29:38 AM
I missed the delivery to my house, and now I'm going to have to go and track it down at some depot somewhere, because it's a courier company and not Australia Post.  I am debating whether or not to bother, although I will likely ring the courier company in the morning, if I'm up at the time.

I just wish getting the phone didn't feel like such an act of self-betrayal, because I also feel like I need it to move forward.

Petrus, go find the package, look at it, play with all the bells and whistles, see how it feels; then, if it doesn't do anything for you, sell it to someone just having conniptions wanting that particular phone...

I refused to do facespook for years, then finally created an account; then took several months before I actually started using it; sometimes a little change is a good thing...

8)

I just got it tonight.  Design is good, screen and back camera are both powerful, everything works.

On the down side:-

a}  The interface is the most idiotic and exasperating thing I have ever seen or experienced.  Typing more than minimally is infuriating; it's constant hunt and peck, and the areas for each letter are too small for my fingers.  There is no way out of the camera app back into the launcher, without turning the thing off and turning it back on.

b}  There is a pervasive sense of malignance and malevolence from using it.

b1}  I can't access the general browser at all without letting it access literally every form of personal information I have; if I don't let it track my location, the browser simply shuts down and dumps me back out to the launcher.

b2}  I am limited to very few specific actions, which feel a lot like they're only the actions that someone else wants me to be able to take.  I can access Chrome, but that only has a list of preselected apps; Google, Facebook, Wikipedia etc; the canned corporate stuff.  I can't get a general http address prompt.  Whenever I am in Chrome, there is also always some headline about some terrorist bombing or horrible form of death that someone has experienced at the bottom of the screen, and the launcher itself goes to an app listing unbelievably negative headlines with a left swipe, as well.

I've turned it off and put it in my drawer.  I will get a sim card for it probably; but aside from occasional phone calls or use of the camera, I can't see myself using it very much.  The camera is nice, so some photography might be fun, but there is still heavy guilt and a sense that I am willingly perpetuating fascist dystopia by using it.

I have come to believe recently, that there is something in this society which is actively encouraging as many people as possible to kill themselves; and I think the use of negative news media on phones would definitely be part of that.

QuoteI have come to believe recently, that there is something in this society which is actively encouraging as many people as possible to kill themselves; and I think the use of negative news media on phones would definitely be part of that.

well if you have come to that conclusion what the hell are you doing to change it..
are you going to fight the impulse - ask yourself what now and  find a positive means to combat such influence
or are you going to bow to it and  ?

we all have such power if we would only recognize what grand creatures we really are..
and on this planet at this time you DO HAVE A CHOICE
maybe the next place you don't
choice wisely  but do choose and stop chasing your tail




bwahahahahahahahahaha

Quote from: petrus4 on March 21, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
On the down side:-

The bright side of the down side: start looking at "rooting" the phone. Android is a Linux system, so once you get access to the root account you can change the operating system to a different one or even make your own, if you know how to do it.

The otters sound like they're  laughing at us.

Quote from: petrus4 on March 21, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
I just got it tonight.  Design is good, screen and back camera are both powerful, everything works.

On the down side:-

a}  The interface is the most idiotic and exasperating thing I have ever seen or experienced.  Typing more than minimally is infuriating; it's constant hunt and peck, and the areas for each letter are too small for my fingers.  There is no way out of the camera app back into the launcher, without turning the thing off and turning it back on.

b}  There is a pervasive sense of malignance and malevolence from using it.

b1}  I can't access the general browser at all without letting it access literally every form of personal information I have; if I don't let it track my location, the browser simply shuts down and dumps me back out to the launcher.

b2}  I am limited to very few specific actions, which feel a lot like they're only the actions that someone else wants me to be able to take.  I can access Chrome, but that only has a list of preselected apps; Google, Facebook, Wikipedia etc; the canned corporate stuff.  I can't get a general http address prompt.  Whenever I am in Chrome, there is also always some headline about some terrorist bombing or horrible form of death that someone has experienced at the bottom of the screen, and the launcher itself goes to an app listing unbelievably negative headlines with a left swipe, as well.

I've turned it off and put it in my drawer.  I will get a sim card for it probably; but aside from occasional phone calls or use of the camera, I can't see myself using it very much.  The camera is nice, so some photography might be fun, but there is still heavy guilt and a sense that I am willingly perpetuating fascist dystopia by using it.

I have come to believe recently, that there is something in this society which is actively encouraging as many people as possible to kill themselves; and I think the use of negative news media on phones would definitely be part of that.

I've been working off a smartphone for years. You can do almost anything with it.

BTW, if you want to search for something, open a browser and type it into the address bar.

You're welcome.  :P