Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10866.msg142559#msg142559)
I am posting this here in John Lear's Area.
For some time I have been posting about Bigelow and the UFO connection with the involvement of George Knapp, Harry Reid, Jeremy Corbell and Tom DeLonge. There have been rumors floating around about Bigelow funding MUFON and others and his interest in acquiring Saucer Parts to study and build his own UFO
The following was linked to me from ATS so it is NOT my work, to be clear. I do NOT know at this time who Mirageman is but his posting style is familiar.
Since these posts are from ATS there has never been an issue sharing them here so long as we include credits and links.
However this is news we need to be on top of.
Some Key Points
James Carrion. Director of MUFON resigns. saying that UFOlogy is it's own worst enemy and only cares to keep the UFO Circuit alive and not care about truth. (Same thing I have been saying)
In July of 2014 Carrion also spoke to radio show the Paracast.
"I think a lot of people in ufology may not like to hear, and that is - I think the bottom line is - there are folks that are in the field that call themselves ufologists, call themselves researchers, investigative journalists – whatever they want to call themselves, it doesn't really matter – but when their modus operandi is to perpetuate the mystery instead of solving it, we have a big issue. We have a big problem because the mystery will never get resolved as long as these people are out there hawking their latest theories ...if you don't have a sincere interest in truth, if you're simply interested in making the rounds of the UFO talk circuit... you're part of the problem, not part of the solution...."
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"MUFON has an obligation to the public to fulfil its mission. ...
I have already stated my decision to step down as the International Director.. I will not stand by and be managed. My time will be better spent actively uncovering the trail left by the forces of disinformation and my efforts focused on uncovering the truth. In the end that is all that is important..."
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS)
Bigelow starts to make a deal with MUFON and many other similar groups and funds them. including Linda Moulton Howe
The goal of BAASS was to acquire UFO super technology for the purpose of filing patents.
But by September of 1995 Saucer Smear reported that Bigelow had ceased funding the project. Funding for Linda Moulton Howe to investigate cattle mutilations however continued.
"Las Vegas businessman Robert Bigelow has terminated his financial help to the three major UFO organizations – MUFON, CUFOS, and FUFOR – due to 'irreconcilable differences'. We are told that Bigelow wanted more control over how his money would be spent.
We also hear that one leading ufologist went so far out of control at the final meeting with Bigelow that he had to be gently escorted from the conference room... Bigelow's flirtation with the Offbeat is not over, however, as he is still apparently funding cattle mutilation investigation by Linda Howe..."
Later in 1995 Bob Bigelow created the 'National Institute for Discovery Science' (NIDS) with Jacques Vallee, Hal Puthoff, Melvin Morse and Edgar Mitchell on board. The purpose of the institute was to study anomalous sightings, cattle mutilations, consciousness and crop circles.
By 1996, he had also purchased Skinwalker Ranch. A property where many paranormal happenings were reported to have taken place.
So READ THIS ENTIRE PIECE. There will be no comments in this thread. Make a discussion thread for it...
Continued...
John Lear
Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP
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Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
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mirageman
posted on ATS Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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"I've been a researcher and student of UFOs for many, many years. Anybody that does research, if people bother to do quality research, comes away absolutely convinced. You don't have to have personal encounters... People have been killed. People have been hurt. It's more than observational kind of data..."
Robert Bigelow – New York Times June 7th 2010 - Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/science/space/08space.html)
This was heavy stuff... Now where do the origins of this quote lie?
Grab yourself a beverage of choice... Get yourself comfortable. ...This isn't going to be like reading Twitter. This is a long thread
It seems one source of Robert Bigelow's claims in the quote above involve a French 'researcher' Antoine Gigal. Physicist Jack Sarfatti described her as "accompanied by a body guard carrying a mystery briefcase allegedly containing "some kind of 'psychotronic' weapon based on alien ET technology."
According to Sarfatti's account, Gigal claimed a gun battle took place at Skinwalker Ranch with paramilitary guards involved in a shootout against aliens emerging from a portal or wormhole type of phenomenon. He said he'd heard the rumour while visiting London in 2004, in the company of Nick Cook (a British Aerospace Journalist). Sarfatti said the woman claimed to be part of a semi-secret Paris UFO group, and the woman attributed the story to Jacques Vallee. Jack Sarfatti also stated:
"Allegedly Jacques Vallee denies the story, but now Bob Bigelow seems to have gone public with it -albeit without the details."
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Artistic impression of gun battle with strange phenomena on Skinwalker Ranch
Bigelow's quote lies tucked away in the middle of a New York Times article from 2010. It was not pursued further in that article. It would be some 7 years later that another article appeared in the New York Times. If you are not familiar with it then you really need to catch up!
Glowing Auras and 'Black Money': The Pentagon's Mysterious U.F.O. Program (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html)
Some believe this is the start of a path to disclosure. Others that it's an intelligence operation or disinformation and cover for something else that is going on. My personal point of view is that more patience is required before we see how this pans out.
One thing that has now become apparent is that the United States 'Department of Defense', MUFON and 'Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies' were all intrinsically linked in an 'Advanced Aviaton Threat Identification Program' (AATIP) to study Unidentified Aviation Phenomena between 2007 and 2012 (maybe longer?). Five years down the road we now have a 'To the Stars Academy' with the former director of that program, Luis Elizondo, involved and a punk rock singer, Tom DeLonge heading it all up.
How did a self made billionaire, MUFON, and a member of Blink182 all become entwined with the machinations of the DoD?
This post will attempt to cover the historical background to these interesting recent developments.
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Bob Bigelow, UFOs and the Paranormal
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Bob Bigelow made his fortune in real estate - hotels, motels and private housing. His ultimate ambition however was to use the profits made to launch a space travel venture. He is an intensely private man and rarely gives interviews. His employees are 'advised' to not talk about their work. But he has taken a very keen interest in 'paranormal' matters down the years.
This was kindled in childhood. Back in 1947 his grandparents pulled over in their vehicle to avoid a strange orange orb in their path. They had stopped on the side of the road in in the middle of nowhere. The orb glowed brightly and headed straight towards them. Then at the last second before impact, it made a right-angle turn and vanished in seconds.
"It really sped up and came right into their face and filled up the entire windshield of the car...it took off at a right angle and shot off into the distance."- Source : Techtimes (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/208843/20170602/bigelow-aerospace-ceo-believes-ufos-visit-earth-heres-his-proof-aliens-exist.htm)
In 1989 not long after Bob Lazar went public with his exciting story about working on captured alien spacecraft at Area 51, Bob Bigelow registered and set up a Nevada corporation for Lazar, the "Zeta Reticuli 2 Corp".
Rumour has it that it was created to research 'Element 115', 'Space Weapons' and possibly biotech treatments for incurable diseases. Element 115 was the 'magic' substance Lazar claims to have worked with and had samples of. It was, according to Lazar, required in the propulsion system of alien craft at Area 51. The company did not last long and nothing ever materialized from this venture. I could find very little else about the purpose of the company, nor much about the two Bobs relationship afterwards.
'TRONDANT' and the 1992 Roper Survey
If you have no idea what "TRONDANT" means then you have probably never heard of the 1992 Roper Survey either. In 1991, Robert Bigelow, along with other interested parties proposed a survey project to estimate the number of alien abductees in America.
These were a series of 3 polls conducted by The Roper Organization, funded by Bigelow regarding "alien abduction". Polls were conducted during the summer and early autumn of 1991. The results remain highly controversial in that it concluded 1 in every 50 (over 4 million American) people appeared to have been abducted by aliens.
The survey was sent to 100,000 psychiatrists to give to patients who claimed "unusual personal experiences" i.e., "abducted by aliens."This was based on a sample of just under 6000 participants. However question 6 was used as a control question. Anyone who felt "TRONDANT" had a secret meaning for them was eliminated .
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Roper Survey Questions
The conclusions of The Roper Organization
"The Roper Organization's research on behalf of Bigelow Holding Company produced results that were unexpected by Bigelow Holding Company; chiefly because the number of people reporting occurrences of items on the list far exceeded what was anticipated, and also because the answers cut across most demographic subgroups... It is clear that significant numbers of people do report that these unusual events occurred, independent of any factors in the survey that might increase responses."
[Copies of the report, Unusual Personal Experiences, may be available through The Roper Organization, 205 East 42nd Street, New York, NY 10017]
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
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Posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:38 AM
In 1993, Bigelow funded the start up of a paranormal radio show - 'Area 2000' with Art Bell, George Knapp and Linda Moulton Howe. Bigelow bowed out fearing a lack of quality guests could be found. Art Bell carried the idea forward and that radio show became Coast to Coast AM.
In 1994, Robert Bigelow suggested a coalition of UFO organizations with MUFON, the Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS) and the Fund for UFO Research (FUFOR) participating. They all formed the UFO Research Coalition (URC). One of the combined projects included working on something called the Ambient Monitoring Project aimed at measuring environmental changes during on-going abduction experiences.
But by September of 1995 Saucer Smear reported that Bigelow had ceased funding the project. Funding for Linda Moulton Howe to investigate cattle mutilations however continued.
"Las Vegas businessman Robert Bigelow has terminated his financial help to the three major UFO organizations – MUFON, CUFOS, and FUFOR – due to 'irreconcilable differences'. We are told that Bigelow wanted more control over how his money would be spent.
We also hear that one leading ufologist went so far out of control at the final meeting with Bigelow that he had to be gently escorted from the conference room... Bigelow's flirtation with the Offbeat is not over, however, as he is still apparently funding cattle mutilation investigation by Linda Howe..."
Later in 1995 Bob Bigelow created the 'National Institute for Discovery Science' (NIDS) with Jacques Vallee, Hal Puthoff, Melvin Morse and Edgar Mitchell on board. The purpose of the institute was to study anomalous sightings, cattle mutilations, consciousness and crop circles.
By 1996, he had also purchased Skinwalker Ranch. A property where many paranormal happenings were reported to have taken place.
In 1997, Bigelow donated, $3.7 million to UNLV (University of Nevada at Las Vegas) to establish the Bigelow Chair of Consciousness Studies. It featured course work in metaphysics, near-death experiences and extrasensory perception.
The John Carpenter Affair
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John Carpenter was a Missouri Licensed Clinical Social Worker, hypnotist and the 'abduction research specialist' for MUFON from 1991 to 2001..
Carpenter accepted approximately $14,000 ($100 per file) for delivering copies of the 140 case files on people suspecting themselves to be alien abductees – to Robert Bigelow and NIDS. None of these people were informed by Carpenter that he made such arrangements. Many who had already paid Carpenter for 'treatment'.
This understandably outraged a number of the individuals involved. Carpenter confirmed to researcher Jack Brewer over at UFO Trail that sharing of files was actually spread over 3 years starting in 1995. He also stated other researchers may have shared case files as well. The whole story is a complex one and the details can be picked up at UFO Trail for those who want to explore this further.
The reason it is mentioned here is to illustrate the questionable ethics of a MUFON insider who supplied Bigelow with personal details from these suspected 'abductees' without contacting them about it.
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
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Posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:39 AMposted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:39 AM
2001 - Air Space Oddity
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Every wondered why the classic UFO reports of old, beyond lights in the sky, seemed to be drying up in the 21st century? Well it's probably because Bob Bigelow via NIDS and then BAASS was vacuuming many of them up? Never to be heard of again due to non-disclosure agreements.
In 2001, the FAA directed UFO sightings to Bigelow's now defunct National Institute of Discovery Science (NIDS) with a change in their policy manuals:
"In calendar year 1999, representatives from the National Institute for Discovery Sciences (NIDS) contacted the FAA Administrator to offer their research institution as the single point of contact recognized by the FAA in regard to UFO information. On April 14, 2000, after being referred by the FAA Administrator, NIDS representatives met with ATP-200 to finalize a course of action. This document change proposal is a result of that meeting and is official FAA recognition that NIDS is the single point of contact for UFO research.
The official date for all FAA offices to receive the new manuals is July 12, 2001, but NIDS has confirmed that many FAA offices have already received the manuals."
In 2004 NIDS was placed into hibernation with a lack of worthwhile cases to investigate.
In 2012 the FAA in the US once again updated policy documents so that UFO reports were diverted to 'Bigelow Aerospace, the National UFO Reporting Center etc. 'Conveniently for BAASS only their contact details were provided in the policy manuals.
However NIDS did release a tiny number of conclusions drawn from their work. One was a conclusion that cattle mutilation was being caused by an unknown, well funded organisation studying the fatal effects of prion diseases. Overall, the evidence suggests that animal mutilations are a long-term, covert, prion disease sampling operation by unknown perpetrators who are aware of a substantial contamination of the beef and venison food supply. Although this paper presents evidence in favor of a motive for animal mutilations, there is still insufficient evidence to identify the perpetrators.............. The primary conclusion of this paper is that the animal mutilation epidemic of 1970-2003 was and is a monitoring operation for an infectious agent that is spreading through the human food chain..
- Source : [url-http://www.slideshare.net/ufomig/nids-tse-and-cattle-mutilations-full-article]NIDS - TSE [/url]
In 2004 too, NIDS also made a statement on Black Triangle UFOs:
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"The United States is currently experiencing a wave of Flying Triangle sightings that may have intensified... especially towards the latter part of the 1990s... The Flying Triangles are being openly deployed over and near population centers, including in the vicinity of major Interstate Highways...neither the agenda nor the origin of the Flying Triangles are currently known... behaviour of the vehicles "does not appear consistent with the covert deployment of an advanced DoD [U.S. Department of the Defense] aircraft."
See : Space.com (https://www.space.com/302-silent-running-black-triangle-sightings-rise.html)
In that same year of 1999 when NIDS first contacted the FAA, Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) was born.
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
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Posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:39 AM
The BAASS and MUFON Star Team Impact Project Controversy
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Fast forward to the latter months of 2008. Robert Bigelow approached MUFON with a 'business proposal'. This proposal involved unlimited access (in real time) to MUFON's case files database and utilising MUFON field investigators. Initial funding was to be from five months to a year, with the option to renew for a second year. Investigations were limited to cases where physical effects of a UFO had been reported, where 'living beings' had been sighted or where 'reality transformation' is said to occur. Whatever that was supposed to mean? 'Lights seen in the sky' would not qualify for paid investigations.
Additionally, Bigelow was contracting up to fifty scientists, some designated to be on the scene within twenty-four hours after significant UFO incidents, to perform investigations and analyze any data and material the MUFON investigators had collected. Travel expenses plus a $100 per day investigation fee would be paid. Bonuses would be awarded for outstanding field performers.
The goal of BAASS was to acquire UFO super technology for the purpose of filing patents.
The contract was offering a total of $672,000 if MUFON delivered. Bigelow was demanding some fairly strict key performance targets including detailed weekly written reports with plans for the next 7 days activities. Monthly reports with detailed financial expenditure were also demanded. All the risk and liability was with MUFON. Yet Bigelow was also insisting on being in control. February of 2009 - the MUFON Board of Directors, perhaps naively, signed up for the terms set out in the contract. In September of 2009 Bigelow demanded MUFON explain what they had done with his money. It appears then that MUFON descended into a panic.
By November of 2009 only $334,000 of the promised $672,000 had been paid to MUFON. Bigelow refused to pay any more money to MUFON despite a legally binding contract. Money that we now know, came from US taxpayers, not from Bigelow's private funds. Yet it seems at MUFON only John Schuessler was aware of where the funding had come from.
Was Bigelow aiming to control MUFON, and if he couldn't, destabilise the entire organisation?
Also in 2009 BAASS purchased the Houston, British Columbia, Canada UFO (HBCC UFO) websites. A repository for eyewitness accounts of UFO sightings from around the world. Someone certainly enjoyed covering up UFO data.
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
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Posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:39 AM
Carrion Screaming!
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The clash of the corporate culture with a voluntary non-profit making organisation like MUFON did not go smoothly. James Carrion (pictured), then International Director of MUFON tendered his resignation in January of 2010. He was unhappy at the way things had transpired and felt that MUFON had been manipulated by Bigelow. Carrion sent an email to his fellow MUFON board members...
"Gentlemen,
Since taking on the MUFON International Director position, I have been in observation .... What I have observed over the last three years seriously disturbs me.
It is my belief that there are forces at work here that "manage" Ufology for their own purposes. When an organization like MUFON starts to operate outside of the box "they" intend to keep us in, then these controlling forces move in to tighten their grip. Case in point is MUFON's relationship with BAASS. Although John (Schuessler) knows who BAASS' sponsors are, I am no longer comfortable with the MUFON-BAASS relationship. ...
Just last month, I financed my own trip to Utah with Dr. Frank Salisbury who was looking to republish his book ... Since the book covered the Uintah Basin...where the Bigelow Skinwalker Ranch is located, Salisbury sought and was denied access to the Ranch. I also asked and was denied access. Instead, we spent our time interviewing new witnesses around the Ranch. Our contact person was Brad Newton (real name withheld) who has researched the area for many years. What I learned from Brad is what has led to the doubts I now harbor.
Brad worked with NIDS on the ranch and mentioned that after an alleged sighting, metal rods were found on the ranch that were sent to NIDS for analysis. Brad was in contact with a NIDS scientist who informed him that the rods were made from Element 115 and did not originate on earth, and that he (the scientist) had worked at Area 51 on a reverse engineering project where they had accumulated 300 pounds of this material. This in a nutshell is the Bob Lazar story.
Through Dr. Salisbury, we were able to interview the brother of the original owner of the ranch who sold it to the Shermans who subsequently sold it to Bigelow. The ranch owner's brother was adamant that there was no UFO or strange activity on the ranch prior to the Sherman's purchase, contrary to what was discussed in the Skinwalker Book and that he (the owner's brother) had personally received a call from Bigelow trying to convince him otherwise. I found this to be extremely odd and disturbing. I also subsequently learned of a business relationship between Lazar and Bigelow (documented in the MUFON archives).
What I see in the MUFON-BAASS relationship is active management of MUFON's work, despite assurances from BAASS otherwise. By carefully controlling the purse strings with each contract evaluation period, they are ensuring they receive a constant flow of information from MUFON while also making sure that MUFON does not end up with operational funding to stabilize its long term financial well being. Who's on the receiving end of this information? Since that will not be disclosed to MUFON, I cannot state for sure, but I don't feel confident that the information is being used for what MUFON was originally informed.
If you were able to listen to my speech at the Symposium or read my paper in the Proceedings or read my blog, then you know where I stand on the active management and control of information on the part of governmental or quasi governmental forces in our work. Conspiracy theory? Yes. Plausible? Yes.
MUFON has an obligation to the public to fulfil its mission. ...
I have already stated my decision to step down as the International Director.. I will not stand by and be managed. My time will be better spent actively uncovering the trail left by the forces of disinformation and my efforts focused on uncovering the truth. In the end that is all that is important..."
See :link (http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/02/10/ex-mufon-director-questions-skinwalker-ranch-claims)
With hindsight we can see Carrion knew what was going on even if he wasn't quite certain of fine details. What followed was a further email exchange with John Schuessler involving carbon like rods found at Skinwalker ranch allegedly containing Element 115.
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Carrion felt that a contact he had originally interviewed had been duped by a NIDS scientist promoting a false story of these 'rods'. Something was amiss with the whole relationship between MUFON and BAASS. He especially questioned why Non-Disclosure Agreements were being used to censor the truth. Carrion was also unhappy that Bigelow was now trying to reduce the amount of money paid to MUFON in direct violation of his own contract.
James Carrion resigned. The Board of MUFON backed down and agreed to Bigelow's new terms.
In July of 2014 Carrion also spoke to radio show the Paracast.
"I think a lot of people in ufology may not like to hear, and that is - I think the bottom line is - there are folks that are in the field that call themselves ufologists, call themselves researchers, investigative journalists – whatever they want to call themselves, it doesn't really matter – but when their modus operandi is to perpetuate the mystery instead of solving it, we have a big issue. We have a big problem because the mystery will never get resolved as long as these people are out there hawking their latest theories ...if you don't have a sincere interest in truth, if you're simply interested in making the rounds of the UFO talk circuit... you're part of the problem, not part of the solution....
...if you think you can dance with these intelligence agencies and they don't want you to dance with them, you're never gonna dance. ... I think there is a very interesting dance happening between ufology and the intelligence organizations that have more to do with what the goals of the intelligence agencies are than a cover up of extraterrestrial visitation....
...when Bigelow hid the source of his funding and would only reveal it to John Schuessler on the MUFON board, that lack of transparency really rubs me the wrong way...
... Skinwalker Ranch to me is interesting for a couple reasons. To me, the mythology – and I'll call it mythology because I don't think what's written in the book is accurate...
Why was it being built up? I think it had somewhat to do with the mythology surrounding Area 51. Somebody wants to continue that mythology. The same way that the mythology is continued around Dulce...
All I know is somebody is obfuscating what is really going on, and I don't think it has to do with protecting people's lives [concerning the lack of access and lack of transparency]. I think it's something else...
...if you go into this field with an open mind, you put aside your beliefs, you really look to see why there's so much noise surrounding this field. Pay attention to the noise. Pay attention to the characters that are in the field."
James Carrion - the Paracast July 2014
In a roundabout way Carrion had accused many of those invested in ufology, including his radio hosts, of being part of the problem.
The irony is not lost. (https://jayvay.wordpress.com/2016/08/15/is-gene-steinberg-a-fraud/)
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
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posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:40 AM
Dr. Christopher 'Kit' Green's Experiencer Group
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Dr. Christopher 'Kit' Green is a former adviser to both the US DoD and the CIA with an impressive CV and a colourful career behind him.
From 2005 Dr. Green returned to private medicine and began working on a research project. This project involved compiling a structured database of individuals that were suffering enigmatic injuries, burns, skin lesions, cancer and diseases. The most significant factor being that all these people had also had 'face-to-face' encounters with UFO/UAPs. The analysis of which took some two years. It revealed some very interesting data. Although due to patient confidentiality a lot of it remains outside the public domain.
Many of Green's one hundred plus patients were military personnel or from aerospace industries. Their own search for treatment had been exhausted with little or no positive results from regular doctors. Dr. Green worked on diagnosis from virtually nothing. He based his hypothesis on patients being exposed to some form of black ops technology such as Non-Lethal Weaponry, Holograms, Cloaking technology and drones. Brain scans, blood, DNA and endocrine tests were made.
However one highly disturbing finding mentioned by Dr. Green is that:
Twenty five percent of my patients die within five to seven years of my diagnosis, and I have no idea of how any programs I knew about years ago can do these things"
Source : Kit Green via the book 'Phenomenon' by Annie Jacobsen
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Green later teamed up with Dr. Garry Nolan, (pictured) a specialist in genetics, immunology and bioinformatics. Nolan agreed with Green. He thought patients had been exposed to an electromagnetic field leading to inflammation and other biomarkers. These showed up in MRI, tissue and blood scans. Something medical technology has not previously been able to pinpoint. So called 'Experiencers of anomalous phenomenon' often show certain biometric markers and DNA changes.
"Some people [seem to] attract the phenomena or the experiences..they act like an antenna or are like lighthouses in the dark".
Phenomenon - Annie Jacobsen
Dr. Green has, in recent years, worked with Rendlesham Forest UFO witness John Burroughs. The results of which were successful treatment for heart damage and, after years of dispute, the Veteran's Association (VA) finally agreed to pay for the treatment.
Interestingly John Burroughs also claims he has a document proving that a weapon was developed off the back of what he encountered in Rendlesham Forest! Although to date he has not released that publicly. While the reasons for treating these people are perfectly altruistic the data gleaned could also be vitally important to certain interested parties.
Dr. Garry Nolan is also, probably not coincidentally, a member of the 'To the Stars Academy' team... (https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/#the-team)
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
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posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:40 AM
BAASS, AATIP and DeLonge Road *** 'To the Stars' ***
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We now know that the funding from US DoD, to the tune of some $22m, was funnelled into BAASS/AATIP. This continued from 2007 until 2012 when it was ended due to 'other priorities'. We also know that MUFON received a percentage of that money despite things turning sour for a while over contracts with Bigelow Aerospace.
What we don't know is what Robert Bigelow did with ALL of that money and apparently some of his own.
UAP Fragments
Going back to the New York Times Articles it was confirmed that metal alloys had been recovered! Bigelow was able to procure and secure materials, alloys, etc. for his own research from UAP/UFOs that the AATIP program came across in their investigations.
Studies of the Hessdalen lights have shown that rare earth metals are present such as scandium. Scandium is a metal that is extremely expensive to produce and is more abundant on the moon than Earth. It can be used in batteries, and is also a very strong, light and resistant to corrosion ideal for spaceflight and coincidentally Russian MIG 29 fighters!!
...Under Mr. Bigelow's direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena... - Source (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html)
This sounds like the Maury Island UFO (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1175971/pg1) story or the Ghost Rocket (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1153154/pg1#pid21680975) flap of the late 1940s in Scandinavia when a then Top Secret USAFE memo date 4th November 1948 claimed that some reliable and fully technically qualified people had concluded:
....... "these phenomena are obviously the result of a high technical skill which cannot be credited to any presently known culture on earth." They are therefore assuming that these objects originate from some previously unknown or unidentified technology, possibly outside the earth.
While some fragments of what was later identified as 'slag' were identified nothing has come to light indicating an unearthly technology in 70 years since. Has BAASS uncovered something more?
UAP Experiencer Studies
We have been told researchers studied people who were UAP 'experiencers' for physiological changes.
....Researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological changes..... - Source (http://mwr.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html)
I think we can guess who was involved in the studies of these experiencers.
This also has similarities to studies of the past made by the likes of John Mack and David Jacobs dating back to the early 1980s. Those studies remain questionable and open to all sorts of accusations. However although little is known about this new research at present it would seem that the methodology is more advanced and some meaningful data can be gleaned.
So, we are up to the point where we have the US DoD awarding a $22m contract to Bigelow and Bigelow recruiting MUFON to assist with identifying UAP events (beyond just lights in the sky). But then we are also told, by the Pentagon, that nothing of interest was really found.
"After a while the consensus was we really couldn't find anything of substance.They produced reams of paperwork. After all of that there was really nothing there that we could find. It all pretty much dissolved from that reason alone—and the interest level was losing steam. We only did it a couple years...." - Source (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/16/pentagon-ufo-search-harry-reid-216111)
The funding stopped and the project seems to have been wound down... if not completely terminated.
What did BAASS really find? What did their people conclude?
Why did the Pentagon state there was nothing there, yet, in 2017 Bob Bigelow confirmed he believes there is an alien presence here?
"I'm absolutely convinced. That's all there is to it...There has been and is an existing presence, an ET presence [on Earth]"
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com//47john_lear/04images/Bigelow/AATIP-016.gif)
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195773/pg1)
Posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:40 AM
To the Stars
Prior to the US Elections, Jimmy Kimmel brought up the UFO subject with Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and George W.Bush with varying degrees of humour injected into the conversation. Stephen Greer's 'Unacknowledged' movie was also released with high production values that appealed to a mainstream audience (even if some of the content can be disputed). It seemed like attempts were already being made to softly focus public attention to the UFO/UAP topic in the USA.
Around the same time Tom DeLonge popped up on the UFO scene. He was talking UFOs, aliens and 'disclosure' on a number of late night talk shows and also in interviews for printed and digital media. He published a couple of books and also made contact with a number of 'suits' in the government and military.
After a number of failed promised and missed deadlines, from an otherwise empty looking venue on 11th October of 2017, Tom DeLonge introduced the world to the "To the Stars Academy" project and to a number of his team via the power of the internet.
Most of the team seemed to be 'company' men.
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Jim Semivan, Dr. Hal Puthoff, Luis Elizondo and Chris Mellon have all worked in intelligence services. Steve Justice meanwhile came from Lockheed Martin 'Skunkworks'.
Of those not present but enlisted by DeLonge are Dr. Garry Nolan (mentioned earlier), Dr. Paul Rapp (commended by the CIA for his work), Dr. Norm Kahn (former CIA), Dr. Colm Kelleher (who previously investigated Skinwalker Ranch as a Director of NIDS) and Dr. Adele Gilpin (Scientist with no mentioned links to the DoD or CIA!).
The presentation was strictly to script, much like UFO Cover Up Live 30 years ago. It was full of convoluted, corporate buzz words but ultimately mentioned nothing about any form of 'disclosure'. There were numerous references to storytelling, movies and entertainment and it seems that a lot of the income for this 'academy' will have to come from that. We were not told at all about the work already done or if any conclusions were drawn.
During the presentation Tom DeLonge said:
"Now in adulthood, I've started to use my limited notoriety as a tool..."
Perhaps highlighting a need to be surrounded by a bunch of intelligence men.
Luis Elizondo also mentioned a mobile phone app in the works.
Another To the Stars Academy objective is the development of an app that allows you to help us quote unquote crowd crunch the data.
Anyone with a cell phone could be alerted to an event occurring in their area. In essence making them a virtual contributor with millions of people documenting events as they actually happen.
Sounds like they already tried that with MUFON but this time the whole world can join in. Not sure if you'll get paid for anything though at this stage.
Finally they told us they were going to build a spaceship....OK.
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195773/pg1)
posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:41 AM
So what in early 2018 is going on?
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Tom DeLonge was relegated to a back seat in the recent mainstream media stories from December of 2017. Leaving Luis Elizondo as the main man being widely quoted:
My personal belief is that there is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone.
Source : www.space.com... (https://www.space.com/39169-aliens-may-exist-pentagon-ufo-program-chief.html)
We were also shown a couple of videos of which provenance still seems to be in doubt. However before he left his position with the DoD Luis Elizondo must have been working hard to declassify a lot of the evidence he'd seen for himself relating to AATIP. The first released vide o comes from 2004. Three years before the AATIP project was started and now fourteen years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RlbqOl_4NA
It can also be traced back to at least 2007 having sat on a webpage belonging to VisionUnlimited ( a German film production company). No one seems to doubt the footage is genuine but the trail of who placed it there, how they came into possession of it and why they did it remain a mystery at this point in time. Other ATS members continue to pursue analysis of that situation. The rest of the publicity was very smoothly handled with pilots speaking publicly and even an interview with Senator Harry Reid with George Knapp. It seems there is still more to come.
The Pentagon, may have claimed the project was ended due to other priorities in 2012 because nothing of substance was found. But in contradiction to that Bigelow Aerospace have created a secured storage building for material discovered at the scene of UAP incidents. They were also very keen to identify 'experiencers' of these events and compile a database of them and their symptoms. The media across the Western World have taken it all in and reported it in a very sober and mature way.
Maybe we do live in interesting times?
Finally they told us they were going to build a spaceship....OK.
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195773/pg1)
The US Government & Military
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People in government departments will hold different views at every level. We've already heard that some, with almost medieval religious views, believe that UFOs are demons and wanted AATIP stopped. Men like Luis Elizondo viewed the problem totally differently and wanted the issue explored further to find answers.
This is not too dissimilar from the days just after World War II when the Flying Saucer Waves seemed to be everywhere. Allegedly an "Estimate of the Situation" review concluded that the best explanation was that these saucers were extra-terrestrial in origin. The report seems to have been bounced around the echelons of command and was ultimately rejected due to lack of hard evidence.
I doubt the situation has changed in the 21st century. There have always been people in military intelligence who believe there is a real UFO phenomenon. But once investigations eliminate the possibility of a threat then chasing UFOs becomes a "high cost/low probability of success" exercise. Spending taxpayers money on such a project is undoubtedly frowned upon. Especially after 70 years without clear answers.
What I believe has changed is that we are seeing a new era beginning to develop. An era where both space exploration and the study of UFOs are or already have been privatised.
It means that the god fearing people who seem to hold lofty positions of influence and those worried about how their tax dollars are being spent are appeased. That doesn't mean if any hard evidence is found that the military won't be interested in new methods of propulsion and weaponry. But now the US government can begin to distance itself from all the negativity associated with the UFO topic.
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As for the military, well some of their more esoteric projects are nothing more than distractions for nations outside the US sphere of influence anyway and nothing more than perception management operations.
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The Bigelow Question
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At the heart of this road 'to the Stars' is Bob Bigelow.
Bigelow's interest in the UFO phenomenon is without question a genuine one on a personal level. But his obsession with secrecy , the heavy handling of MUFON, procuring 'experiencers' contact details and his obvious deep connections with the military industrial complex leave the perception that there is something shady about his dealings in this subject.
There is a full on conspiracy claim that Bob Bigelow and the Military Industrial Complex have now completed their objectives. In other words they now 'own ufology' in North America. It implicates a fair number of people.
See : ufoseekers.com... (https://ufoseekers.com/2017/12/22/robert-bigelow-owns-ufo-community/)
Gabe Valdez also stated in his "Dulce Base" book
"I have it on very good authority, without going into too much detail, that NIDS and Bigelow Aerospace was funded as a black budget CIA project to prevent scrutiny and accountability from Congress. ... In case you haven't noticed, most of the members of the aviary are also members of the NIDS science advisory board. The aviary group was part of an organized government operation that intentionally tried to convince Americans of an alien presence. "
I suspect that people who try to get further information via FOIA requests about Bigelow's investigation into the phenomenon will also be somewhat disappointed.
However the truth is probably not as extreme as the above claims. The full story has yet to be unravelled.
One thing that seems obvious is that, whatever information Robert Bigelow is sitting on, his curiosity has now been satisfied. He is now attempting to capture and utilise a technology which he believes is not ours. Or he is part of a huge deception exercise?
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195773/pg1)
Posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:41 AM
DeLonge Game
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It may seem that people in the intelligence services who believe there is something to be studied and gleaned from the UFO phenomenon have now taken an opportunity to jump ship and join the "To the Stars Academy" . They are now squirrelled away from the need to answer to officialdom and the US taxpayer. Only time will tell what the project will bring. Bob Bigelow may not be linked with it in public but his presence and influence seem to be there in the background.
TomDeLonge's self professed claim to have " limited notoriety as a tool" may well now turn out to be true. He will be allowed to be 'remunerated for ... a minimum of $100,000' and further use the 'To the Stars' project for carefully structured tax write-offs. He may even be allowed to carry on working in the entertainment side of projects. But he really is playing with some of the big boys in public now. Is an ability to pucker up and call them all 'Sir!' enough to keep him in the game?
What worries me slightly is that there are still people around who have been messing with weird stuff for a long, long time. The players from decades ago are once again fluttering around. Richard Doty has been busily claiming everything was aliens in both Stephen Greer's "Unacknowledged" movie and in lower key interviews elsewhere. He's even been stalking around Facebook these last few months too. Then there is the team behind DeLonge who have a deep history of connections with the intelligence community. Hal Puthoff is another 'character' from years ago with a senior position on DeLonge's team.
For a more in depth revision of that history I refer you to our very own The GUT's excellent thread:
Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread976484/pg1)
Because some of these people are still dealing in areas and technologies that disturb human brain functions. As 'The GUT' poetically states it in the thread linked above.
..peek behind the curtain at some of the mind science that has lead to a portion of this technology. It's a dark area where the un-refutable connections between MK-ULTRA, Remote Viewing, Electromagnetism, Occult Knowledge & Practices, and "Alien Intelligences" converge with hi-technology and science.
Dark recesses where the dark arts prosper and dark entities whisper in the ears of men. The realm of our modern "alchemists."
Supposedly an exercise in studies of human consciousness and how we can communicate with a 'higher intelligences' . But it also seems to lead down a path of mental illness and psychosis for many on the receiving end. To dabble is to gamble with sanity. Much of this is beyond the scope of the thread,
So back to a reality that we all know and exist in. One obvious questions that arises from this latest development is this.
If AATIP was instigated to study 'aerial threats' then what does the US government really know about the UFO/UAP phenomenon?
It seems that almost 50 years after the closure of Project Bluebook they are telling us they still don't know very much at all.
Reprinted from AboveTopSecret.com
Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195773/pg1)
Immaculate Deception is an appropriate name...
Okay UPDATE
From Spooksville
Yes it is true that George Knapp and Jeremy 4 Names are in cahoots on the Skin Walker Ranch deal and now Springer (from ATS) is in on the deal
I give up... I really do... there is no point trying to compete with these guys only after the money. With Harry Reid, Robert Bigelow and Tom DeLonge in the mix and now Springer what point is there? These guys will control ALL the UFO info at this rate and everyone is already fawning all over them
Springer
posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 12:01 AM
So... I just returned from The Skin Walker Ranch. I was out there with George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, and couple other friends (you may or may not have heard of).
Once I've caught up on sleep I'll start a thread with pictures and everything. ;-)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195773/pg103#pid23279374
More to follow.
If anyone still has ATS Access please follow this and keep me posted in the
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10866.msg142559#msg142559)
Bigelow Aerospace Sundancer Space Hotel(https://images2.popmeh.ru/upload/img_cache/82d/82dac154c75b9e4fb5c295ae9f1f1da2_fitted_800x3000.jpg)
Looks like Robert is about to have some SERIOUS competition
Orion Span wants to launch a space hotel at $9.5 million per ticketOrion Span, a Texas startup, is accepting $80,000 deposits for future visits to its planned "luxury space hotel" named Aurora Station.
Author: Emre Kelly, FLORIDA TODAY April 8, 2018
Tourists of the future might be able to select "low Earth orbit" as a destination when looking for their next relaxing getaway – if they can foot the multimillion-dollar bill, that is.
Orion Span, a Texas startup, is accepting $80,000 deposits for future visits to its planned "luxury space hotel" named Aurora Station. The total price for a 12-day stay, including launch services to the modular station: $9.5 million.
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A rendering of the interior of the proposed Aurora Station.
Orion Span via Hemsworth Communications
The hotel can host six people at a time beginning in 2022, the company said, including its two crew members and would feature windows, a "holodeck" with a virtual reality experience, and the ability for guests to grow their own food, to name a few.
"As Aurora Station continues to grow with market demand, we will also sell space condos – your own capacity aboard Aurora Station and future space stations to visit, sublease, or one day live in as you wish," Orion Span CEO Frank Bunger said in a post this week on the company's website.
Spaceflight also requires training, so future guests will have to complete the three-month "Orion Span Astronaut Certification" program, part of which would be completed online before traveling to Houston.
There has, however, been no discussion of which launch services provider – SpaceX, United Launch Alliance, Blue Origin or others – would lift the station's parts to orbit.
http://www.wtsp.com/article/tech/science/space/orion-span-wants-to-launch-a-space-hotel-at-95-million-per-ticket/67-536373532
My visit to The Skinwalker Ranch, 2018Springer
posted on ATS Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:44 PM (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg1)QuoteI have recently returned from the Skinwalker Ranch. I was there with friends and will be releasing info and pictures over the next several weeks. Mostly because I am busy making a living but also because the way movies work is you have to build up some suspense and thereby get some interest in the picture built up too while you're at it (hopefully). It's called marketing and yes, it's all a big tease because it has to be, media is so fractured now those who don't get the attention go broke and broke people can't afford to investigate ANYTHING. And if nobody can afford to investigate anything people like you and me will never KNOW about anything. It's that simple.
So, with all that out of the way here's my first installment of my story about the hardest place to get into that I've legally gotten into...
Skinwalker Ranch: March, 2018
The place does have a feeling of indescribable and internally moving grace about it combined with an equally indescribable feeling of just plain weirdness...
My logical mind attributes the "weirdness" feeling to the last 25+ years of stories I've read about it and the personal recitals of those tails by the people who lived them. People I know personally who have shared their experiences at the ranch with me face to face. Brilliant people who certainly DON'T need to impress me with flights of fancy and have ZERO reason to B.S. me.
The "Graceful" feeling, bordering on peaceful, which was definitely there, I have no explanation for and it seems counter-intuitive and just plain strange.
Anyone who has been around ATS long enough knows I am an eternally open minded skeptic; if I don't see it with my own eyes, if I can't replicate the results, or find more than one (reputable and credible) person who saw it then well, I'm not impressed, to put it politely.
All that said, the place did "move me". I don't expect that to mean anything to anyone but me, but the fact remains... I don't have time to get into the details in this opening salvo of what I hope will be many posts but I assure you I believe there is "something" weird about that place, don't know what and can't guarantee it's not because I want to feel that way, but, after being home for more than a week I still feel "it".
That is unique.
I've been to lots of weird places and none of them have ever even impressed me, much less left a an impression on me like this one has. For the moment I'm chalking it up to the legend that preceded my visit...
In the interest of full disclosure, my reasons for traveling to the ranch were not completely selfish, i.e. finally getting into a place I've been trying to get into for 25+ years.
I was asked by dear friends to take part in the filming of the first genuine documentary done on one of the most mysterious and hard to get access to places on the paranormal side of the planet. I was happy to oblige and will be encouraging anyone with an interest in the ranch to check the film out when it's released.
Just to quash any B.S. spewed by the jealous and/or haters, NO, I won't be benefiting financially from the film, I truly believe it's the best (and only legit) historical record of the place that we've all been interested in for decades you'll ever see.
Believe it or not, as one of the founders of ATS I feel I owe it to our membership to share the info. I've seen the rough cut of the movie and it's good, factual, and very much NOT the typical crap you'd see on cable TV that pertains to the topic/phenom. That, and the fact ATS gets a nice mention makes it all good with me. :-)
Anyway, here's the first photo from the trip I can release, it's a pretty cool one that was taken during a very interesting part of our stay at the ranch. The faces that are blocked will be revealed as the release of the movie gets closer.
(http://thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Bigelow/Springer-001.jpg)
Backstory:
The second night we built a campfire in the same spot where George Knapp (he's on the left, Jeremy Corbell is in the middle, and that's me over on the right) lit one some 20+ years ago back when NIDS was on property. We did it in front of the spookiest abandoned old ass house I've ever seen.
Don't get your hopes up though, in spite the very well documented history of the ranch (the very thing that caused me to want to go there in the first place) nothing happened to me while I was there. But, I feel that isn't very meaningful.
I've NEVER seen a UFO, a ghost, or even a weird shadow. You'd think that the guy who is is into the topic(s) like I am would have by now but, alas, I have not.
Maybe I'm just jinxed, or, maybe the phenom just doesn't like me...
Either way I have several more images of places in the ranch that very, very few people have ever seen that I will be uploading over the next week or two, stay tuned...
Finally:
Just to quiet the doubters, here's a shot of the gate OPEN just before I entered:
(http://thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Bigelow/Springer-002.jpg)
More as I get time, let the comments begin!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg1
madmac5150
posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 11:07 PM link (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg1#pid23313525)
Are you still the real "Springer", or have you been replaced by a clone?
(This IS ATS... it had to be asked... :P
Springer
posted on Apr, 13 2018 @ 12:02 AM link (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg1#pid23313651)
a reply to: madmac5150
Yep. it's the same old me (I'm on the right in the campfire picture).
I'm a few years older than my avater picture but I'm still me. ;-)
Here's another shot taken of me at the "campfire" at the ranch:
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Text from the promo email
Skinwalker Ranch has been referred to as the Area 51 of the paranormal, and is now famous throughout the world. A myriad of frightening, seemingly paranormal events have occurred at, and surrounding the ranch for hundreds of years, including orbs, UFOs, animal mutilations, unknown creatures, poltergeist-type activity, and many other inexplicable incidents. Shrouded in mystery, an exhaustive multidisciplinary scientific study was initiated and spearheaded by an enigmatic aerospace billionaire. A team of PhD level scientists were deployed; millions of dollars in equipment and personnel was invested. The US Government's Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) took notice and sponsored a massive study to determine if what lurks at the ranch was a threat to National Security. Secrets have been kept. Big Secrets. For more than two decades we have wondered; and now things are changing. This story can now be told and will feature original and rare footage from the ranch during the time of the investigations.
My film is a modern day Twilight Zone with a Clockwork Orange twist... except everything you see actually happened. So get ready, pre-orders will be up on iTunes and Vimeo soon.
I have also included a number of free extras in this email, especially for you, that I have just now published for viewing. From a sneak peek of my upcoming documentary film on Bob Lazar to an interview I recently did with Cmdr. David Fravor, a fighter pilot who engaged a UFO for the United States Navy.
Weaponize your curiosity!
With love,
Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell
Creator, Extraordinary Beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi6XNjiEHCc
LAZAR DOCUMENTARY + SNEAK PEEKQuoteJune 22, 2018
Area 51, flying saucers from another world - and the program to create a fierce technology. Bob Lazar has lived a wild life. He remains the singular most famous and controversial name in the world of UFOs. The reason you know about Area 51 is because Lazar came forward and told you about it. His disclosures have turned his life upside-down and he has tried to stay out of the spotlight. For this reason, he has never let any filmmaker into the private world of his daily life - that is - until now. Corbell's film will explore Lazar's claims through the lens of thirty years - providing rare and never before revealed footage - guaranteed to alter the landscape of the debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur1fgrbboQQ
ctj83
posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 04:39 AM link
a reply to: Springer
Springer, I'm astounded. Assuming that no footage has been manipulated for the sake of making an interesting trailer, then from what I've seen, they got the phenomena on video, and it, to me, appears to be technological, not paranormal.
In fact, it reminds me of what Bennewitz photographed.
Hats off to Jeremy.
I do have to ask why this footage has been sat on for 14 years?
Springer
posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 08:02 AM link
a reply to: ctj83
George's footage has been "sat on" out of a lack of funding to produce it in a non sensationalized documentary. George didn't want it spun into something it's not nor did he want it mocked.
Jeremy came along and made a huge impression with his intelligence, sincerity, and critical thinking skills...
In other words, the stars aligned. :-)
mirageman
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 05:24 AM link
a reply to: thepixelpusher
It could just be a trick of the light or even post production.
Timestampedlink : https://youtu.be/Gi6XNjiEHCc?t=87
Blink and you'll miss it. Something appears to materialize on the right hand side.
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ls5b375a16.gif)
moebius
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 05:22 AM link
From the little that is to see, my first guess would be a camera artifact.
What kind of camera was used? Is the footage replayed at real speed?
ctj83
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 05:33 AM link
a reply to: moebius
I've done some pretty in-depth motion and delta analysis. The video source is an unusually stable VHS / NTSC but it might not be being recorded at 60i. From what I've heard Alexander say, it could be running at 30-60 frames per minute.
Although no one has focussed on this, I've already mentioned that this footage lacks a second timer, unlike the other security camera footage shown in the trailer. I REALLY think people should be asking why.
Again - why does this clip, running at 38 frames (not quite a full minute, not requiring the clock to move) not display seconds?
The appearance is not:
- An internal reflection
- An analogue video artifact
- A digital video artifact
Nor is it a 'standard digital video fade effect'. Due to the way these objects materialise, it is almost certainly not an atmospheric illusion.
For what it's worth, these pillars appear above the abandoned homestead, right where Tom Gormand said that they would occasionally appear.
TLDR, from a detached objective point of view, this is either a modern still image turned into a VHS-like footage with a complex composite effect, or this is something recorded in camera 2004.
Questions:
- Why is this filmed off a monitor rather than a direct playback?
- Why is there no second counter (note I don't see this as evidence of the fake. I would in 1996. Not now, it's too easy to add in)
- Was this recorded in an interlaced format?
- What was the angle and zoom on the lens?
- What is it that leaves the 'portal'
vlawde
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 10:51 AM link
You may be right on the image(s) made to look like grainy or old video clips, lots of shows do this for effect (like Dead Files when the handheld camera is on Amy) I suspect at least some of this is for effect specifically for the trailer
SOURCE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg38
JohnnyAnonymous
I think you'll find (if you do a bit of zooming in)... that the 'Sword' is more than likely an old tilting communication or electrical pole in the distance.
Pareidolia... it can be a 'wondrous' and 'fun' form of illusion as our brain tries to make sense of things.
ctj83
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 02:33 PM link
a reply to: vlawde
It's hard to tell if you see it at normal speed, but at 25% or slower, you can see a consistent fade in. There's far more going on in this sequence, than the fade in. Right now, I'm not going to speak about that because I have two likely theories but I don't want to prejudice others.
It could be an internal reflection, a transition added in post, an atmospheric effect or something
vlawde
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 03:42 PM link
a reply to: ctj83
I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. All the quick cuts etc in the trailer, may not be actual footage of any event, but just in the trailer to hint at what MAY be in the movie. I'm hoping we get a long look at some actual footage of something happening in the film
edit on 6/30/2018 by vlawde because: (no reason given)
ctj83
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 03:45 PM link
a reply to: vlawde
I agree on all your points. Trailers can be misleading. We've all seen movies where a scene in the trailer never appears in the film.
Or a scene plays totally differently when viewed in context.
I do wonder why all these interviews were filmed ten years ago if everyone was under NDA.
vlawde
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:05 PM link
Just guessing, maybe there was an agreement to keep the footage in the can until the NDA expired?
thepixelpusher
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:28 PM link
a reply to: vlawde
I really think the documentary will be good even if there is no big video reveal. Firsthand eyewitness testimony to some of the most bizarre paranormal sightings has me eager to see the flick!appearing.
There is a type of image analysis that can answer some of this, but until we have more information it doesn't seem worth it.
Wild. Anyone know if anything was said before about these pillars forming? Looks like it was at 8:52 pm at night too
(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/er5b381795.jpg)
SOURCE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg38
thepixelpusher
posted on Jul, 1 2018 @ 11:44 PM link
a reply to: Springer
UFO Jesus is for entertainment purposes, but curious what you think he's on target about?
Pretty please can we have an AMA with Jeremy Corbell prior to the documentary release?
edit on 1-7-2018 by thepixelpusher because: (no reason given)
Springer
posted on Jul, 1 2018 @ 11:48 PM link
a reply to: thepixelpusher
We might be able to make that happen, assuming Jeremy can figure out how io post on ATS! I swear he has a mental block on anything more technical than social media. LOL
mirageman
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:13 AM link
As it's a couple of seconds clip from a trailer I don't want to get too excited about it just yet.
It could be a number of things including a mirage!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIpZAKBk1ew
ctj83
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:29 AM link
a reply to: mirageman
A very good point. We might be looking at a localised heat inversion, but I'd suggest that the source of it was not natural. We'll have to wait and see.
I get the feeling we are looking at a documentary largely about Cattle Mutilations (TM). Will Linda Moutlon Howe be involved?
mirageman
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:36 AM link
a reply to: ctj83
One would hope so. But whoever is responsible has always seems to overlook her up to now.
SOURCE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg39
olaru12
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:32 PM link
I wonder what kind of info remote viewers could gleen from SWR. Has it been done?
vlawde
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 08:12 PM link
It has been done. Here's the report:
www.skinwalkerranch.org/images/ShermanRanchReport.doc
reject
posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 02:06 AM link
a reply to: thepixelpusher
Is that the best "evidence" they've got?
Lol.
thepixelpusher
posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 05:34 AM link
a reply to: reject
Wish i knew. I'd like jeremy Corbell to do an AMA here to answer some of the questions. But likely the big reveals, if any, will wait until the documentary release.
Few people are let into the inner sactum for Skinwalker Ranch, so this is an exciting film to wait for. Knaap's book was an exciting peek into SWR too, but here's hoping for some visual proof in the documentary. Anyway Reject, don't expect the trailer to give away any big secrets. I'm sure you understand why.
Springer
posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 11:34 PM link
I will ask Jeremy if he can figure ATS out well enough to do an AMA.
ETA: I guess I'll hold his hand until he has the hang of it... I think it would be an excellent AMA.
SOURCE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDQthrmqsWY
Nvm. :)
Spookz member, olaru12, works in Hollywood. From his own lips over there, he's done pretty much everything related to the business.
Four Names has a pretty phony baloney name. I think "Snake" might be more accurate. I can't take a person like that seriously.
Re: that apparent double image, struck me right off the bat as just a ghost image of that pillar, or whatever it is.
There will be an AMA thread on ATS today, "around 3:00PM Eastern/2:00PM Central/12:00PM Pacific" (whatever that means :P). It looks like George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell will be available to answer questions. Springer also said he will answer any questions. Robbie Williams also appeared in the announcement thread (he didn't post for a very long time on ATS), so maybe he will answer some questions too.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 22, 2018, 02:14:35 PM
There will be an AMA thread on ATS today, "around 3:00PM Eastern/2:00PM Central/12:00PM Pacific" (whatever that means :P). It looks like George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell will be available to answer questions. Springer also said he will answer any questions. Robbie Williams also appeared in the announcement thread (he didn't post for a very long time on ATS), so maybe he will answer some questions too.
Well it's official Robbie Williams is in the mix with Knapp and TTSA
'I BELIEVE' Robbie Williams admits he's afraid of being 'taken over by hitchhiking aliens' after visit to UFO-plagued ranch
The X Factor judge spoke of his fears on a new documentary featuring Area 51 expert George Knapphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8596143/robbie-williams-afraid-taken-over-hitchhiking-aliens-visit-ufo-plagued-ranch/
Quote from: zorgon on March 16, 2019, 12:20:13 AM
Well it's official Robbie Williams is in the mix with Knapp and TTSA
I don't see the connection between Robbie Williams and TTSA. ???
PS: I think the interview they talk about is in the "bonus material" on the "Hunt for the Skinwalker" DVD, along with other interviews.
Quote from: ArMaP on March 16, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
I don't see the connection between Robbie Williams and TTSA. ???
PS: I think the interview they talk about is in the "bonus material" on the "Hunt for the Skinwalker" DVD, along with other interviews.
ROBBIE WILLIAMS AT SKINWALKER & TTSA DOCUMENT LEAKS ...
https://www.patreon.com/posts/robbie-williams-20665352
Just completed watching Hunt for the Skinwalker, Reviews & Impressions anyone?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/9exuje/just_completed_watching_hunt_for_the_skinwalker/
George Knapp on Twitter: "Robbie Williams came along with us on a ...
https://twitter.com/g_knapp/status/1026321664697487360?lang=en
Quote from: zorgon on March 16, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
ROBBIE WILLIAMS AT SKINWALKER & TTSA DOCUMENT LEAKS ...
https://www.patreon.com/posts/robbie-williams-20665352
Just completed watching Hunt for the Skinwalker, Reviews & Impressions anyone?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/9exuje/just_completed_watching_hunt_for_the_skinwalker/
George Knapp on Twitter: "Robbie Williams came along with us on a ...
https://twitter.com/g_knapp/status/1026321664697487360?lang=en
Your first link doesn't work, the second has too much to read and in the last I didn't see any connection to TTSA. ???
Reread this thread following Zorg's advice to do so.
If these people want to seriously examine the phenomena discussed they should turn their efforts to inner, not outer, space.
It's clearly analog versus digital. We send lumbering vehicles that breakdown into orbit and make a joke of ourselves. I can hear the ghosts of spirits past laughing their asses off.