Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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zorgon

#15
My visit to The Skinwalker Ranch, 2018

Springer 
posted on ATS Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:44 PM


QuoteI have recently returned from the Skinwalker Ranch. I was there with friends and will be releasing info and pictures over the next several weeks. Mostly because I am busy making a living but also because the way movies work is you have to build up some suspense and thereby get some interest in the picture built up too while you're at it (hopefully). It's called marketing and yes, it's all a big tease because it has to be, media is so fractured now those who don't get the attention go broke and broke people can't afford to investigate ANYTHING. And if nobody can afford to investigate anything people like you and me will never KNOW about anything. It's that simple.

So, with all that out of the way here's my first installment of my story about the hardest place to get into that I've legally gotten into...

Skinwalker Ranch: March, 2018

The place does have a feeling of indescribable and internally moving grace about it combined with an equally indescribable feeling of just plain weirdness...

My logical mind attributes the "weirdness" feeling to the last 25+ years of stories I've read about it and the personal recitals of those tails by the people who lived them. People I know personally who have shared their experiences at the ranch with me face to face. Brilliant people who certainly DON'T need to impress me with flights of fancy and have ZERO reason to B.S. me.

The "Graceful" feeling, bordering on peaceful, which was definitely there, I have no explanation for and it seems counter-intuitive and just plain strange.

Anyone who has been around ATS long enough knows I am an eternally open minded skeptic; if I don't see it with my own eyes, if I can't replicate the results, or find more than one (reputable and credible) person who saw it then well, I'm not impressed, to put it politely.

All that said, the place did "move me". I don't expect that to mean anything to anyone but me, but the fact remains... I don't have time to get into the details in this opening salvo of what I hope will be many posts but I assure you I believe there is "something" weird about that place, don't know what and can't guarantee it's not because I want to feel that way, but, after being home for more than a week I still feel "it".

That is unique.

I've been to lots of weird places and none of them have ever even impressed me, much less left a an impression on me like this one has. For the moment I'm chalking it up to the legend that preceded my visit...

In the interest of full disclosure, my reasons for traveling to the ranch were not completely selfish, i.e. finally getting into a place I've been trying to get into for 25+ years.

I was asked by dear friends to take part in the filming of the first genuine documentary done on one of the most mysterious and hard to get access to places on the paranormal side of the planet. I was happy to oblige and will be encouraging anyone with an interest in the ranch to check the film out when it's released.

Just to quash any B.S. spewed by the jealous and/or haters, NO, I won't be benefiting financially from the film, I truly believe it's the best (and only legit) historical record of the place that we've all been interested in for decades you'll ever see.

Believe it or not, as one of the founders of ATS I feel I owe it to our membership to share the info. I've seen the rough cut of the movie and it's good, factual, and very much NOT the typical crap you'd see on cable TV that pertains to the topic/phenom. That, and the fact ATS gets a nice mention makes it all good with me. :-)

Anyway, here's the first photo from the trip I can release, it's a pretty cool one that was taken during a very interesting part of our stay at the ranch. The faces that are blocked will be revealed as the release of the movie gets closer.



Backstory:

The second night we built a campfire in the same spot where George Knapp (he's on the left, Jeremy Corbell is in the middle, and that's me over on the right) lit one some 20+ years ago back when NIDS was on property. We did it in front of the spookiest abandoned old ass house I've ever seen.

Don't get your hopes up though, in spite the very well documented history of the ranch (the very thing that caused me to want to go there in the first place) nothing happened to me while I was there. But, I feel that isn't very meaningful.

I've NEVER seen a UFO, a ghost, or even a weird shadow. You'd think that the guy who is is into the topic(s) like I am would have by now but, alas, I have not.

Maybe I'm just jinxed, or, maybe the phenom just doesn't like me...

Either way I have several more images of places in the ranch that very, very few people have ever seen that I will be uploading over the next week or two, stay tuned...

Finally:
Just to quiet the doubters, here's a shot of the gate OPEN just before I entered:



More as I get time, let the comments begin!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg1

zorgon

#16
madmac5150
posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 11:07 PM link 
Are you still the real "Springer", or have you been replaced by a clone?

(This IS ATS... it had to be asked...  :P

Springer
posted on Apr, 13 2018 @ 12:02 AM link   
a reply to: madmac5150

Yep. it's the same old me (I'm on the right in the campfire picture).

I'm a few years older than my avater picture but I'm still me. ;-)

Here's another shot taken of me at the "campfire" at the ranch:


zorgon

Text from the promo email

Skinwalker Ranch has been referred to as the Area 51 of the paranormal, and is now famous throughout the world. A myriad of frightening, seemingly paranormal events have occurred at, and surrounding the ranch for hundreds of years, including orbs, UFOs, animal mutilations, unknown creatures, poltergeist-type activity, and many other inexplicable incidents. Shrouded in mystery, an exhaustive multidisciplinary scientific study was initiated and spearheaded by an enigmatic aerospace billionaire. A team of PhD level scientists were deployed; millions of dollars in equipment and personnel was invested. The US Government's Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) took notice and sponsored a massive study to determine if what lurks at the ranch was a threat to National Security. Secrets have been kept. Big Secrets. For more than two decades we have wondered; and now things are changing. This story can now be told and will feature original and rare footage from the ranch during the time of the investigations.

My film is a modern day Twilight Zone with a Clockwork Orange twist... except everything you see actually happened. So get ready, pre-orders will be up on iTunes and Vimeo soon.

I have also included a number of free extras in this email, especially for you, that I have just now published for viewing. From a sneak peek of my upcoming documentary film on Bob Lazar to an interview I recently did with Cmdr. David Fravor, a fighter pilot who engaged a UFO for the United States Navy.

Weaponize your curiosity!

With love,

Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell
Creator, Extraordinary Beliefs



zorgon

LAZAR DOCUMENTARY + SNEAK PEEK

QuoteJune 22, 2018
Area 51, flying saucers from another world - and the program to create a fierce technology. Bob Lazar has lived a wild life. He remains the singular most famous and controversial name in the world of UFOs. The reason you know about Area 51 is because Lazar came forward and told you about it. His disclosures have turned his life upside-down and he has tried to stay out of the spotlight. For this reason, he has never let any filmmaker into the private world of his daily life - that is - until now. Corbell's film will explore Lazar's claims through the lens of thirty years - providing rare and never before revealed footage - guaranteed to alter the landscape of the debate.



zorgon

#19
ctj83
posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 04:39 AM link   
a reply to: Springer

Springer, I'm astounded. Assuming that no footage has been manipulated for the sake of making an interesting trailer, then from what I've seen, they got the phenomena on video, and it, to me, appears to be technological, not paranormal.

In fact, it reminds me of what Bennewitz photographed.

Hats off to Jeremy.

I do have to ask why this footage has been sat on for 14 years?


Springer
posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 08:02 AM link   
a reply to: ctj83

George's footage has been "sat on" out of a lack of funding to produce it in a non sensationalized documentary. George didn't want it spun into something it's not nor did he want it mocked.

Jeremy came along and made a huge impression with his intelligence, sincerity, and critical thinking skills...

In other words, the stars aligned. :-)

mirageman
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 05:24 AM link   
a reply to: thepixelpusher

It could just be a trick of the light or even post production.

Timestampedlink :

Blink and you'll miss it. Something appears to materialize on the right hand side.



moebius
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 05:22 AM link   

From the little that is to see, my first guess would be a camera artifact.

What kind of camera was used? Is the footage replayed at real speed?

ctj83
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 05:33 AM link   
a reply to: moebius

I've done some pretty in-depth motion and delta analysis. The video source is an unusually stable VHS / NTSC but it might not be being recorded at 60i. From what I've heard Alexander say, it could be running at 30-60 frames per minute.

Although no one has focussed on this, I've already mentioned that this footage lacks a second timer, unlike the other security camera footage shown in the trailer. I REALLY think people should be asking why.

Again - why does this clip, running at 38 frames (not quite a full minute, not requiring the clock to move) not display seconds?

The appearance is not:
- An internal reflection
- An analogue video artifact
- A digital video artifact

Nor is it a 'standard digital video fade effect'. Due to the way these objects materialise, it is almost certainly not an atmospheric illusion.

For what it's worth, these pillars appear above the abandoned homestead, right where Tom Gormand said that they would occasionally appear.

TLDR, from a detached objective point of view, this is either a modern still image turned into a VHS-like footage with a complex composite effect, or this is something recorded in camera 2004.

Questions:
- Why is this filmed off a monitor rather than a direct playback?
- Why is there no second counter (note I don't see this as evidence of the fake. I would in 1996. Not now, it's too easy to add in)
- Was this recorded in an interlaced format?
- What was the angle and zoom on the lens?
- What is it that leaves the 'portal'

vlawde
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 10:51 AM link   

You may be right on the image(s) made to look like grainy or old video clips, lots of shows do this for effect (like Dead Files when the handheld camera is on Amy) I suspect at least some of this is for effect specifically for the trailer

SOURCE:  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg38

zorgon

#20
JohnnyAnonymous

I think you'll find (if you do a bit of zooming in)... that the 'Sword' is more than likely an old tilting communication or electrical pole in the distance.

Pareidolia... it can be a 'wondrous' and 'fun' form of illusion as our brain tries to make sense of things.

ctj83
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 02:33 PM link   
a reply to: vlawde

It's hard to tell if you see it at normal speed, but at 25% or slower, you can see a consistent fade in. There's far more going on in this sequence, than the fade in. Right now, I'm not going to speak about that because I have two likely theories but I don't want to prejudice others.

It could be an internal reflection, a transition added in post, an atmospheric effect or something

vlawde
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 03:42 PM link   
a reply to: ctj83

I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. All the quick cuts etc in the trailer, may not be actual footage of any event, but just in the trailer to hint at what MAY be in the movie. I'm hoping we get a long look at some actual footage of something happening in the film
edit on 6/30/2018 by vlawde because: (no reason given)


ctj83
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 03:45 PM link   
a reply to: vlawde

I agree on all your points. Trailers can be misleading. We've all seen movies where a scene in the trailer never appears in the film.

Or a scene plays totally differently when viewed in context.

I do wonder why all these interviews were filmed ten years ago if everyone was under NDA.


vlawde
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:05 PM link   
Just guessing, maybe there was an agreement to keep the footage in the can until the NDA expired?


thepixelpusher
posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:28 PM link   
a reply to: vlawde

I really think the documentary will be good even if there is no big video reveal. Firsthand eyewitness testimony to some of the most bizarre paranormal sightings has me eager to see the flick!appearing.

There is a type of image analysis that can answer some of this, but until we have more information it doesn't seem worth it.   

Wild. Anyone know if anything was said before about these pillars forming? Looks like it was at 8:52 pm at night too



SOURCE:  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg38

zorgon

thepixelpusher
posted on Jul, 1 2018 @ 11:44 PM link   
a reply to: Springer

UFO Jesus is for entertainment purposes, but curious what you think he's on target about?

Pretty please can we have an AMA with Jeremy Corbell prior to the documentary release?
edit on 1-7-2018 by thepixelpusher because: (no reason given)

Springer
posted on Jul, 1 2018 @ 11:48 PM link   
a reply to: thepixelpusher

We might be able to make that happen, assuming Jeremy can figure out how io post on ATS!  I swear he has a mental block on anything more technical than social media. LOL

zorgon

mirageman
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:13 AM link   
As it's a couple of seconds clip from a trailer I don't want to get too excited about it just yet.

It could be a number of things including a mirage!



ctj83
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:29 AM link   
a reply to: mirageman

A very good point. We might be looking at a localised heat inversion, but I'd suggest that the source of it was not natural. We'll have to wait and see.

I get the feeling we are looking at a documentary largely about Cattle Mutilations (TM). Will Linda Moutlon Howe be involved?

mirageman
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:36 AM link   
a reply to: ctj83

One would hope so. But whoever is responsible has always seems to overlook her up to now.

SOURCE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg39

zorgon

olaru12
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 07:32 PM link   

I wonder what kind of info remote viewers could gleen from SWR. Has it been done?

vlawde
posted on Jul, 3 2018 @ 08:12 PM link   

It has been done. Here's the report:

www.skinwalkerranch.org/images/ShermanRanchReport.doc


reject
posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 02:06 AM link   
a reply to: thepixelpusher

Is that the best "evidence" they've got?

Lol.

thepixelpusher

posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 05:34 AM link   
a reply to: reject

Wish i knew. I'd like jeremy Corbell to do an AMA here to answer some of the questions. But likely the big reveals, if any, will wait until the documentary release.

Few people are let into the inner sactum for Skinwalker Ranch, so this is an exciting film to wait for. Knaap's book was an exciting peek into SWR too, but here's hoping for some visual proof in the documentary. Anyway Reject, don't expect the trailer to give away any big secrets. I'm sure you understand why.

Springer
posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 11:34 PM link   

I will ask Jeremy if he can figure ATS out well enough to do an AMA.

ETA: I guess I'll hold his hand until he has the hang of it... I think it would be an excellent AMA.


SOURCE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1204259/pg40



Irene

Nvm.  :)
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

Irene

Spookz member, olaru12, works in Hollywood. From his own lips over there, he's done pretty much everything related to the business.

Four Names has a pretty phony baloney name. I think "Snake" might be more accurate. I can't take a person like that seriously.

Re: that apparent double image, struck me right off the bat as just a ghost image of that pillar, or whatever it is.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

ArMaP

There will be an AMA thread on ATS today, "around 3:00PM Eastern/2:00PM Central/12:00PM Pacific" (whatever that means :P). It looks like George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell will be available to answer questions. Springer also said he will answer any questions. Robbie Williams also appeared in the announcement thread (he didn't post for a very long time on ATS), so maybe he will answer some questions too.

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on September 22, 2018, 02:14:35 PM
There will be an AMA thread on ATS today, "around 3:00PM Eastern/2:00PM Central/12:00PM Pacific" (whatever that means :P). It looks like George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell will be available to answer questions. Springer also said he will answer any questions. Robbie Williams also appeared in the announcement thread (he didn't post for a very long time on ATS), so maybe he will answer some questions too.

Well it's official Robbie Williams is in the mix with Knapp and TTSA

'I BELIEVE' Robbie Williams admits he's afraid of being 'taken over by hitchhiking aliens' after visit to UFO-plagued ranch
The X Factor judge spoke of his fears on a new documentary featuring Area 51 expert George Knapp


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8596143/robbie-williams-afraid-taken-over-hitchhiking-aliens-visit-ufo-plagued-ranch/

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on March 16, 2019, 12:20:13 AM
Well it's official Robbie Williams is in the mix with Knapp and TTSA
I don't see the connection between Robbie Williams and TTSA. ???

PS: I think the interview they talk about is in the "bonus material" on the "Hunt for the Skinwalker" DVD, along with other interviews.

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on March 16, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
I don't see the connection between Robbie Williams and TTSA. ???

PS: I think the interview they talk about is in the "bonus material" on the "Hunt for the Skinwalker" DVD, along with other interviews.

ROBBIE WILLIAMS AT SKINWALKER & TTSA DOCUMENT LEAKS ...
https://www.patreon.com/posts/robbie-williams-20665352

Just completed watching Hunt for the Skinwalker, Reviews & Impressions anyone?
from r/UFOs


George Knapp on Twitter: "Robbie Williams came along with us on a ...
https://twitter.com/g_knapp/status/1026321664697487360?lang=en