From the time of becoming a PRC member and becoming to learn more about you Zorgon..
I also became aware of your KNIGHT LOGO and your ref to the Island of Standauffish and some of your past where you play out your Knight and medievil type events.
Its a while since I had looked into your written material about it ...and I have not as yet studied it long enough or in such detail to be knowledgable to really offer much valid comments on it as yet....but I hopefully can attempt to make some basic references or things to do with such sort of topics.
What you have shown initially seems impressive... and I dont think I was aware of you having been in such contact with the U.K Royal Family..
In the U.K we are led to believe that many Americans have quite a facsination and interest in them..especially as many in the US are from the UK or other european countries that are said to be connected with them.. inc Germany..
But Also many a conpiricists no doubt also have other views on them...Alex Jones , David Icke for eg.
But no matter what we all may think.... at the end of the day they seem to have had an amazing history...
and if one bothers to research into them.. I am sure it is overall an interesting topic...
I have not really ever took the time to study them in reasonable detail... and may try to do so if I am able to be in the right mindset or have the time to consider doing so...
I have have obtained some interest in History as I have got older and enjoy watching quite a few TV programs about various history...which I think many of us do or will do at some time.
In ref to Knights...
I think the most interesting story to me so far is in ref to King Arthur...
I seen some very interesting Programs about King Arthur...in how some researchers have come up with some good theories as to whether he may had been for real or not.. and one recent one that may have discovered where he really lived and died and where his real actual burial place maybe..
I am not sure who Zorgon mainly relates to in History ? if you are seen as a Knight from Europe or the U.K or even King Arthur ? or some other known Knight..maybe from the Templars for eg . or if you are seen as someone less known or if you believe that you were such a knight from your past life as I think I have read you mention before...
In ref to some of the Royal Families history... or your dealings in contacting them...
what you have shown seems impressive..
It will be a real shame if you were not able to have continued to have attempted your project...
although I seem to recall you having told us some past info in ref to somethings that occurred during your time in trying to persue that project...which id need to remind myself about..
Seeing the new Royal Wedding due to occur this week... it sparks some further interest in thinking about the Royals if just for a short period..
They seem a nice couple...
and Harry being Diana's 2nd son... I have have some appeal to him...and he seems likeable.. and Megan is a nice woman...
Her being of a mixed race...however I think is a new rather unexpected choice ...and we have to hope that there is no similar incidents occur that may had happened to Diana.
QuoteWell today we have the first piece of news that I would consider being added to the Guild History in keeping with our style :D (Yes Zorgon has friends in high places :P )
QuoteThe History of Zorgon and the Island of Standauffish is written to fit well into Historical Accuracy... Anyone interested can read it at our Guild website... In the process of creating such a History HERALDRY is one of the most important aspects fro defining who your persona is/was and how it is connected
Now here is the MOST SIGNIFICANT part of the above document for me and our guild interests...
For the first time in History an American has had a Royal Heraldic device created... thus effectively setting precedence (yes some will say Royal control :P )
Now Zorgon already has mail delivered by the US Post office addressed to King Zorgon, from another government agency, Clark County so that makes it official :P
But this Heraldic Symbol is quite a nice piece of History...
Ah well met LOL
My 'connection' to the Royal Family is merely of a historical interest.
Our Guild needed a place in time to set as our 'home base" as it were. In the SCA (Society for Creative Ananchronism) you CREATE a persona(character) who COULD have lived in your chosen time frame... You then study and develop that persona to a level that IF you were suddenly transported into the past and dropped into your time choice, that you would fit in perfectly :D
Years ago we developed a plan to build a Theme park... we were very close. And in that pursuit we soaught permissions and information from around the world, mostly the UK because our chosen time frame was the early 1500's When we started to write the Guild history... weird things happened... A LOT of weird things... too much to go into here at this time
Prince Charles was head of the Mary Rose Trust and had a great interest in the project
http://landoflegendslv.com/01library/05research/02top/20ship/mary/mary.html
Information and particularly the pictures used on this page are all copyrighted by the Mary Rose Trust 2000, and have been reproduced here by kind permission for information sharing purposes only. The Isle of Standauffish is not affiliated with the Mary Rose Trust in any way. To visit their site which abounds with information on the Tudor time period please goto;
The Mary Rose Trust (https://maryrose.org)
Our chosen History was set in 1504 under the reign of Henry Tudor (Henry VII)... Before he became King he was running for his life from the House of York... it says in the official Royal history that he was spirited away with the help of the mayor of Tenby to France by an ANONYMOUS MERCHANT SHIP... Later when he got his army together and returned to take the crown from Richard, it was ANONYMOUS SHIPS AND MERCENARIES that brought him back and won the crown :D
Since our Guild History was set up as MERCHANT SHIPS operating out of Wales... this was our niche WE are those anonymous ships and mercenaries :D
Zorgon is an archaic name in one of the Arthurian Legends as a General of Uthar Pendragon... It is sometimes spelled Zargon (which is what my Pirate Capt calls me LOL) Henry Tudor named his son Arthur... to firmly attach himself to the King Arthur Welsh lineage.
We were given the Island of Inys Pyrr (today known as Caldey Island) just off the coast of Wales near Tenby and pembroke( Henry's home) Back in those days the royals would arm the merchant ships as war ships... The Navy wasn't created until Henry VIII
So for the purpose of our personas we were rich merchants with fleets of ships and under royal protection. That allowed us to have the finest clothing (after all WE sold to the royals :P ) and the best goods
So we are the best dressed LOL and since we sew it ourselves it's not expensive (fabric donated from Upholstery shops :D ) So back in our glory we had Governors kneeling under our sword
(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/01ov/images/Events/Forest1999/Knight/010.jpg)
After we set that time frame and Zorgon got his titles for the help... we got that Island. Now the REAL weirdness begins
The island was EMPTY at the time we needed save for a very small group of monks in an Abbey on the Island... I will stop here and continue later in another thread... because from here on the coincidences that happened to us between our created history and real history is the stuff of Legends :D
(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/01ov/images/Events/Forest1999/Dance/Image45.jpg)
(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/01ov/images/Events/Forest1999/Dance/Image53.jpg)
If I could find a few good men (and women) that want to revive the Guild I would do so... I am even considering restarting it as an online Guild first and have already started on that This allows people all around the world to take part... even if they cannot physically attend events.
If enough are interested to be part of the organization, chapters could be opened around the world...as was our original goal. That way if even just a couple people attend their local Rennaissance Faire, they could still represent the Guild.
The Isle of Standauffish? Odd name? Yes it is... but it was given to us in a truly Period manner and it is a play on words that makes it very amusing to those 'in the know"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSyS9KsAPy0
Thanks for your breakdown description Zorgon...
It helps to get the basic understanding.... which I was not able to recall if I had at sometime come across one of your past threads on it..
So was this initially your own specific idea, or where you with a group who developed it ?
Very Interteresting if Prince Charles took such an interest ! so did he actually reply direct to you on that or the groups as a whole ?
1540 .... Henry Tuder... I assume was Henry 8th ???
I am partly aware of some of this history but not as much as I should be.... mainly all I recall is his 6 wives and what he did to some of them :) and how he was a bit of a tyrant not to be messed with !
So is Zorgon is (or not) purly Based on King Henry ? who passed away in 1547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England
You make some ref to King Aurther / Pendragon, that I have heard of Pendragon before...
Quote
Zorgon is an archaic name in one of the Arthurian Legends as a General of Uthar Pendragon... It is sometimes spelled Zargon (which is what my Pirate Capt calls me LOL) Henry Tudor named his son Arthur... to firmly attach himself to the King Arthur Welsh lineage.
Interesting that it has a connection to Tenby in Penbrokeshire in South Wales.... of which I have once visited.. and its an interesting area.. but did not realise that it had that part of history to it..
It would have been good if you and your clan could have visted Tenby and reinacted some seens in that area or on the beaches...
Had you ever considered doing such a visit to related historical locations ?
Well "Z " looking at you and your associates in the pictures... you all look the part !
so I recken you are some sort of past related Royal like Knight reincarnation !
If you have a connection to Arthur also..
Can you tell us where the Holy Grail may be ?
Maybe you drank from it back in history and have continued to live in to eterntity ! :P
A UK research called Graham Philips has done some very interesting research in to some Arthur and Holy Grail history..and at one time believed he found the Holy Grail in a place that I once visited..in which his story as to how he found it was really amazingly interesting...
He also has since claimed to have found Arthurs real burial place..
QuoteAh well met LOL
My 'connection' to the Royal Family is merely of a historical interest.
Our Guild needed a place in time to set as our 'home base" as it were. In the SCA (Society for Creative Ananchronism) you CREATE a persona(character) who COULD have lived in your chosen time frame... You then study and develop that persona to a level that IF you were suddenly transported into the past and dropped into your time choice, that you would fit in perfectly :D
Years ago we developed a plan to build a Theme park... we were very close. And in that pursuit we soaught permissions and information from around the world, mostly the UK because our chosen time frame was the early 1500's When we started to write the Guild history... weird things happened... A LOT of weird things... too much to go into here at this time
Prince Charles was head of the Mary Rose Trust and had a great interest in the project
http://landoflegendslv.com/01library/05research/02top/20ship/mary/mary.html
Information and particularly the pictures used on this page are all copyrighted by the Mary Rose Trust 2000, and have been reproduced here by kind permission for information sharing purposes only. The Isle of Standauffish is not affiliated with the Mary Rose Trust in any way. To visit their site which abounds with information on the Tudor time period please goto;
The Mary Rose Trust
Our chosen History was set in 1540 under the reign of Henry Tudor... Before he became King he was running for his life from the House of York... it says in the official Royal history that he was spirited away with the help of the mayor of Tenby to France by an ANONYMOUS MERCHANT SHIP... Later when he got his army together and returned to take the crown from Richard, it was ANONYMOUS SHIPS AND MERCENARIES that brought him back and won the crown :D
Since our Guild History was set up as MERCHANT SHIPS operating out of Wales... this was our niche WE are those anonymous ships and mercenaries :D
Zorgon is an archaic name in one of the Arthurian Legends as a General of Uthar Pendragon... It is sometimes spelled Zargon (which is what my Pirate Capt calls me LOL) Henry Tudor named his son Arthur... to firmly attach himself to the King Arthur Welsh lineage.
We were given the Island of Inys Pyrr (today known as Caldey Island) just off the coast of Wales near Tenby and pembroke( Henry's home) Back in those days the royals would arm the merchant ships as war ships... The Navy wasn't created until Henry VIII
Quote from: astr0144 on May 16, 2018, 12:56:02 AM
which I was not able to recall if I had at sometime come across one of your past threads on it..
Not much about it on here yet :P
The Guild Website is here Still have some bugs, missing links and sound files to fix but most of it is ready. Had to move it from a .us url to .com so it took some time
Main Entry Port
http://landoflegendslv.com/02isle/Island01.html
Guild website
http://landoflegendslv.com/isle.html
Main Website
http://landoflegendslv.com
QuoteSo was this initially your own specific idea, or where you with a group who developed it ?
Group thing oddly enough it began via a text based video game that played for 10 minutes a day on the old Bulletin Boards before the internet and jumped into reality
QuoteVery Interteresting if Prince Charles took such an interest ! so did he actually reply direct to you on that or the groups as a whole ?
Well as head of the guild all replies came to me. A more interesting one was from Dame Stella Barratt-Pugh D.C.T.. Preceptor, Grand Priory of England and Wales. Templars.
She was really interested in the concept we had of having the security forces for the Theme park dressed as Knight Templars. Since they wore a sot of medieval utility belt we thought it was a great idea and would be appropriate for bothe the Medieval and Elizabethan Sectors as well as the Middle Eastern Sectors :D Naturally we had to ask permission :D She loved the idea and even put me in touch with the US main head priory in New tork
She was also very interested in our "usurping' Caldey island as the monks on the Islande were her pet project in getting assistance from the templars :D And she added this piece to our pages;
Caldey Island - "Island of Saints"
By Dame Stella Barratt-Pugh D.C.T.
Preceptor, Grand Priory of England and Waleshttp://landoflegendslv.com/01library/05research/01con/04ca/templars01.html
© Knights Templar
The following articles are reprinted here with the kind permission of
Dame Stella Bernardi D.G.O.T..
Chancellor of the Grand Priory of England and Wales
Quote1540 .... Henry Tuder... I assume was Henry 8th ???
My mistake- typo I corrected that... the official date of the guild is 1504 and the years previous. In other words the current year of the guild is now locked in at 1504 while prior events are our history. 1504 because that was when Arthur was still alive and before Henry died
Henry VII(http://landoflegendslv.com/01library/01archives/04images/S-Henry7-1.gif)
QuoteSo is Zorgon is (or not) purly Based on King Henry...?
No Zorgon is based off the Arthurian general of Uthar Pendragon... a history that took me 5 years to document for the Heralds at the SCA to allow it's use because Arthur was 9according to them) based on myth. I latched onto Henry VII because he had named his son Arthur to be the next King Arthur... so thus I had the proof that back then, the Arthur story was real enough for the then King of England to name his son... That worked :P
my last name as in Zorgon of Shalott came from the Arthurian tales as well. In the online game called LEGEND of the RED DRAGON... there is a tavern on the edge of the human world where it crosses into the Faerie Realms. Through a secret back door in the tavern you enter the mountain where you can fight the Dragon (we decided to rescue it LOL (long story)
(http://landoflegendslv.com/03ports/mystsofavalon/00images/Faeries/Otherworldly_Home_by_clintonkun.png)
L.O.R.D was created by the bard Seth Able Robinson who I only later discovered was also an SCA member in California... he since moved to Japan and married a woman and last I heard is still living that medieval lifestyle. He sign over permission to us to continue the theme story line as we did for the guild :D
Beyond the tavern is a Field of Flowers where the Faeries Frolic.... and that is the portal to reality...
You will r4ecall that the Arthurian legend is full of Faeries, like the Lady in the Lake that took Arthur's sword and body... and the Lady of Shalott. The Lady of Shalott is a Faerie. Zorgon is a descendant of that lineage and resides in Castle Shalott. The castle can be reached by crossing the Field of Flowers to a river that runs into Lake Avalon.
This story is immortalized in the Epic Poem of Alfred Lord Tennyson "The Lady of Shalott"
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/John_William_Waterhouse_-_I_am_half-sick_of_shadows%2C_said_the_lady_of_shalott.JPG)
Lady of Shallot by William Waterhouse (We have one of those looms :D )
The Poem, only slightly modified, is sung by Loreena McKinnett
Willows whiten, aspens shiver.
The sunbeam showers break and quiver
In the stream that runneth ever
By the island in the river
Flowing down to Camelot.
Four gray walls, and four gray towers
Overlook a space of flowers,
And the silent isle imbowers
The Lady of Shalott. THIS is my theme song... :D THIS is our History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80-kp6RDl94
QuoteYou make some ref to King Aurther / Pendragon, that I have heard of Pendragon before...
Uther Pendragon Welsh: Uthyr Pendragon, Uthyr Bendragon) also known as King Uther, is a legendary king of sub-Roman Britain and the father of King Arthur. A few minor references to Uther appear in Old Welsh poems, but his biography was first written down by Geoffrey of Monmouth in his Historia Regum Britanniae (History of the Kings of Britain), and Geoffrey's account of the character was used in most later versions. He is a fairly ambiguous individual throughout the literature, but is described as a strong king and a defender of the people.
According to Arthurian Legend, Merlin magically disguises Uther to look like his enemy Gorlois, enabling Uther to rape Gorlois' wife Lady Igraine. Thus Arthur, "the once and future king," is an illegitimate child (though later legend, as found in Malory, emphasizes that the conception occurred after Gorlois's death and that he was legitimated by Uther's subsequent marriage to Igraine). This act of conception occurs the very night that Uther's troops dispatch Gorlois. The theme of illegitimate conception is repeated in Arthur's siring of Mordred by his own half-sister Morgause in the later prose romances; it is Mordred who mortally wounds King Arthur in the Battle of Camlann.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/History_of_the_Kings_%28f.72%29_Uthr_Bendragon.jpg)
Uther Pendragon in a crude illustration from a 15th-century Welsh language version of Historia Regum Britanniae
In old English there was a lot of changing of the first letter before the language had grammar rules So Pendragon appears as Bendragon at times (like in the file name of this old image. That is where Dick came from Rick (Richard) and Bill came from Will (William) (and Ulliam in Irish shortened to Liam) Henry was pronounced Harry... Edward appears as Ned or Ted :D
QuoteInteresting that it has a connection to Tenby in Penbrokeshire in South Wales.... of which I have once visited.. and its an interesting area.. but did not realise that it had that part of history to it..
And your from the UK? LOL
The History of pembroke, home of the Tudors and the red Rose IS the history of Britain :P Tenby is the port of Pembroke, with Caldey Island just off shore
My wife has Pembroke Corgi's with lineage tied to Elizabeth II's Corgis :D
QuoteIt would have been good if you and your clan could have visted Tenby and reinacted some seens in that area or on the beaches...
Had you ever considered doing such a visit to related historical locations ?
That and more was in the plans LOL but money was a major issue... we were actually gointg to rent a medieval village over there for two weeks :D
Well "Z " looking at you and your associates in the pictures... you all look the part !
so I recken you are some sort of past related Royal like Knight reincarnation !
QuoteIf you have a connection to Arthur also..
Can you tell us where the Holy Grail may be ?
Maybe you drank from it back in history and have continued to live in to eterntity ! :P
One of my recent past lives was in medieval England I have strong memories and perhaps that is why I am still living it today, but no I have no recollection of the Grail... I am of the opinion it is not a physical object but more of a spiritual tradition...
But one thing is certain when I pick up certain swords, a weird tingling energy runs down ny arm and generates goose bumps all over me... I can feel the energy... it is astoundingly refreshing... More on that later and I don't care who believes it... but if you were here you could see the bumps appear :D
QuoteA UK research called Graham Philips has done some very interesting research in to some Arthur and Holy Grail history..and at one time believed he found the Holy Grail in a place that I once visited..in which his story as to how he found it was really amazingly interesting...
He also has since claimed to have found Arthurs real burial place..
I will look into that Haven't updates in a while. This Royal Wedding and the old style documents have sparked new interest Also the letter fro Henry VIII and two recent finds below the ground, and that Saxon gold hoard... tell me its time to pick up where I left off :D
Okay so... I NEED this book Any volunteers?
::)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/411NJ888B9L._SX297_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
King Arthur: The True Story
by Graham Phillips, Martin Keatman (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0099296810/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0099296810&linkCode=as2&tag=pegasreseacon-20&linkId=11b0302b05b9337e81629506c41a75fb)
Recent archeological discovery and textual analysis of original sources led the authors of this book to search for the identity of the true King Arthur. The dates of the two known historical events in his life are established in the Dark Ages rather than the Middle Ages. A picture of Britain in the late-5th century emerges as a land reverted to tribal strife after Roman evacuation, beset by foreign invasions from the Picts, Irish and Anglo-Saxons. Arthur is discovered to have come from a tribe resettled in northern central Wales, and to have led a nationalist Christian pact of British tribes against the pagan invaders. "Arthur", the authors conclude, is merely a title, and his true name Owen Ddantgwyn. They also identify his burial place as a mound called The Berth, north-west of Shrewsbury.
The truth behind the romance and legends of King Arthur, Excalibur, the Holy Grail and the site of the real Avalon.
Recent archeological discovery and textual analysis of original sources led the authors of this book to search for the identity of the true King Arthur. The dates of the two known historical events in his life are established in the Dark Ages rather than the Middle Ages. A picture of Britain in the late-5th century emerges as a land reverted to tribal strife after Roman evacuation, beset by foreign invasions from the Picts, Irish and Anglo-Saxons. Arthur is discovered to have come from a tribe resettled in northern central Wales, and to have led a nationalist Christian pact of British tribes against the pagan invaders. "Arthur", the authors conclude, is merely a title, and his true name Owen Ddantgwyn. They also identify his burial place as a mound called The Berth, north-west of Shrewsbury.
For fifteen hundred years, King Arthur has remained a mystery. For the first time, King Arthur: The True Story discovers the historical King Arthur, his Camelot and his final resting place. The authors uncover vital evidence for Arthur's historical existence. Centuries of myth are peeled away to reveal the truth behind the romance, and the Grail and Excalibur legends. The search for Arthur's Camelot leads to ancient ruins in the heart of Britain: a Dark Age city recently unearthed by archaeologists. A medieval manuscript in Oxford's Bodleian Library finally identifies King Arthur's burial site: the real Avalon.
So Need to find THIS
A medieval manuscript in Oxford's Bodleian Library finally identifies King Arthur's burial site: the real Avalon.
Thanks for clarifying...Most Interesting !
QuoteNo Zorgon is based off the Arthurian general of Uthar Pendragon... a history that took me 5 years to document for the Heralds at the SCA to allow it's use because Arthur was 9according to them) based on myth. I latched onto Henry VII because he had named his son Arthur to be the next King Arthur... so thus I had the proof that back then, the Arthur story was real enough for the then King of England to name his son... That worked :P
my last name as in Zorgon of Shalott came from the Arthurian tales as well. In the online game called LEGEND of the RED DRAGON... there is a tavern on the edge of the human world where it crosses into the Faerie Realms. Through a secret back door in the tavern you enter the mountain where you can fight the Dragon (we decided to rescue it LOL (long story)
I like the image of he House !
Quote
You will r4ecall that the Arthurian legend is full of Faeries, like the Lady in the Lake that took Arthur's sword and body... and the Lady of Shalott. The Lady of Shalott is a Faerie. Zorgon is a descendant of that lineage and resides in Castle Shalott. The castle can be reached by crossing the Field of Flowers to a river that runs into Lake Avalon.
This story is immortalized in the Epic Poem of Alfred Lord Tennyson "The Lady of Shalott"
Yes I have been ignorant to much of my own Countries history in my past years (which I believe many people often are) and only really started to appreciate it in my later years..... I was more interested in other Countries than my own..including being more interested in the USA..
BUT at some point.. I then realised that general recorded US history only really went back to 1492/ 1500s...
and then realised much of the US populations history was European and English related...
so I have since maybe been more interested in now trying to research back into European and UK history when I can...
and started watching many History related TV programs...to try to recall some of the facts that I would had been taught when younger at School. !
QuoteAnd your from the UK? LOL
The History of pembroke, home of the Tudors and the red Rose IS the history of Britain :P Tenby is the port of Pembroke, with Caldey Island just off shore
My wife has Pembroke Corgi's with lineage tied to Elizabeth II's Corgis :D
Real shame that you were notable to have done that back when you were younger and fitter to have done it..
or that you could not have had the Royals fund it all for you and your group to travel over and accomodate you all plus help you do the filming set up etc ! . I am sure it would have been very interesting to all of us..
Maybe you can arrange something for the future.. with some of your older group and up and coming generation replacements..
Maybe Contact Prince Harry and Megan :D maybe its the right timing ! or Prince Charles or recontact your Past Royal admin connections..to propose it ! or to get a major Film Director interested if you can ensure you can be connected / associated to it...based on it being your and your groups idea to protect your idea for Future Royality payments ! :P
Dont let anyone else steal the idea ! inc the Royals....so get your self the right Lawyer to protect your rights !
for Copyright and Patient issues... for your Intellectual property !
https://www.gov.uk/intellectual-property-an-overview
become a sort of Jeremy Corbel in ref to your filming rights to that project...or find someone who will do it for you who you can trust !
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That and more was in the plans LOL but money was a major issue... we were actually gointg to rent a medieval village over there for two weeks :D
I can envision what you refer to... and who really knows what connection we have from our pasts..
You seem to have strong beliefs in that sort of thing , as you have mentioned on other occasions..
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One of my recent past lives was in medieval England I have strong memories and perhaps that is why I am still living it today, but no I have no recollection of the Grail... I am of the opinion it is not a physical object but more of a spiritual tradition...
But one thing is certain when I pick up certain swords, a weird tingling energy runs down ny arm and generates goose bumps all over me... I can feel the energy... it is astoundingly refreshing... More on that later and I don't care who believes it... but if you were here you could see the bumps appear :D
I hope that you new sparked interest has some further positive effect..
I have just tried to do some further searching on Graham Philips...
I thought that I had posted related details about him in other related threads, but I can only find details of other topics that he has researched... and specifically about King Aurthur or the Holy Grail.
He has been on two or three very good UK TV programs in ref to King Aurthur and the Holy Grail.
I have managed to find some material... but not the full versions as yet...
I will continue to try to find the relevant content / materials and post if I find it hopefully shortly..
It maybe better or as interesting to purely reading his book..
but I suppose his book will have some better specific details and refs that the videos / TV programs do not cover.
I think I prefer often to watch videos / TV rather than read...but thats just me !
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I will look into that Haven't updates in a while. This Royal Wedding and the old style documents have sparked new interest Also the letter fro Henry VIII and two recent finds below the ground, and that Saxon gold hoard... tell me its time to pick up where I left off :D
QuoteOkay so... I NEED this book Any volunteers?
May have found some good related links.... but I have not as yet viewed them in detail as yet..
This is his website that also covers many other interesting topics...
This is Graham Philip's website
(http://www.grahamphillips.net/home/Graham%20Phillips.jpg)
http://www.grahamphillips.net/index.htm
http://www.grahamphillips.net/arthur_tomb/arthur_tomb1.html
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The Lost Tomb of King Arthur – US and UK edition: Bear & Company 2016
QuoteGraham Phillips identifies a historical figure behind the legend of King Arthur, and searches for his capital city and his long-lost tomb. He presents compelling evidence that the Arthurian legends were actually based on real events. During a quest lasting over twenty-five years, Graham has followed a fascinating trail of historical clues showing Arthur to have been a living warrior who led the Britons around the year 500. He has discovered that the legendary Camelot, Excalibur and Avalon were based on a real city, a real sword and a real island. And, most astonishing of all, with the help of archaeologists employing the very the latest scientific equipment, Graham has found what he claims to be the location where Arthur was finally buried.
This video maybe the main one that refers to King Aurthurs real story and Burial place...
If I recall he made some refs to the Aurthur legend maybe having been at some other pre past dates to dates that the media had led us to believe... that did not seem to relate to the middle age periods that our History may had suggested..
But later he may had come up with some other research that may have had another theory that suggested that it may have occurred in the Period we are led to believe in...
Id have to rewatch it again to recall it in better detail..and make some recorded notes in ref to it...based on what he says in the video.
NO doubt there wil be many who will not believe or have other views on it..
But I think I thought atthe time that he could have found some other good possible theories that may make more or better to believe or accept suggestions about the story..
Graham Phillips - The Lost Tomb of King Arthur!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4304&v=9xEQWzbJw5A
I have been to some of the areas referred to in this shown below...
there are some very interesting areas and it has some nice scenic surroundings..
Id like to revisit this area again as well as visit some of it for the 1st time...and spend more time looking into this...
There is a Lake that I am aware about that also has a Myth that its where the Sword in the Lake story occurred...
That Graham may not refer to that I have become aware about... that I am hoping to find and research more about..
and visit one day..
The King Arthur Trail
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Six short films about the Arthurian sites in and around Shropshire in central Britain. Click on the pictures to link to the relevant video on Youtube. Watch them in order if you want to follow Graham's search as presented in his book, The Lost Tomb of King Arthur.
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http://www.grahamphillips.net/katrail/trail.html
One of his Holy Grail discovery videos.. I thought was an amazing story even if his research on it was not the real Holy Grail.. that he did at Hawkstone Park in Shropshire...
Hawkstone Park is like a magical kingdom, that you could imagine could had been related to the King Arthur Holy Grail legend.
If you ever visit the UK in ref to the King Aurthur legend ,id say its worth a visit..
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check out the series of images shown at the bottom of the link below.
They relate to the discovery that he made in how he found his version of the Holy Grail at Hawkstone...
The videos them and these are some related images to his journey of discovery..
http://www.grahamphillips.net/chalice/chalice5.html
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Graham Found this Statue in the Cave
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upon further investigation to the Statue, he found this object hidden inside it....
That he questions could it have been the Holy Grail in ref to his research that he relates to.
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Author Graham Phillips and the Holy Grail Mystery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=193&v=80mmzMO6MYw
Graham Phillips and his search for the Holy Grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=167&v=LYD_m0sP-Ys
Author Graham Phillips: King Arthur, Camelot and the Holy Grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=760&v=Ct2WvqojQfU
I think this is ony for UK viewers ... and one needs to sign up to see it...(which I dont like doing myself as you never used to have to do so) At one time all the main TV programs you could watch without having to sign up...as part of their data profiles on us all...like FB..
Forbidden History !
In Search of the Real King Arthur
Knights, castles and round tables are all part of the enduring King Arthur legend. Is there any truth to it? Hear the various claims to his origins.
https://uktvplay.uktv.co.uk/shows/forbidden-history/watch-online/?video=4826218724001
THIS Item...
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Not the Holy Grail :P not even English That is Mexican Banded Onyx Very typical of Aztek and Mayan modern souvenirs. It is also to simple for ancient celtic carvings
This material is all over the southwest USA
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Most likely some modern Druid wanna be left it there after a ritual :D
I did not really think it was likely, but I doubt we will ever get to know...
But I thought it was quite an interesting story worth posting.. and the steps that he went thru to investigate it I thought would be quite amazing if true , in how he deciphered the Bible Codes he referred to..to check out the clues.
Interesting that you have noticed the material with your Geology / Rocks experience ...and believe that you can debunk it on that basis..
I have no idea if that Substance may be available in other countries... could that be possible, in the Middle East deserts for eg that are similar to the SW USA..
You probably have not got around to being able to look thru his website in much detail as yet..but
He has another interesting story in relation to the Ark of the Covenant and the stones of the 10 commandments .. in which he suggests a possibility one of the Stones from the Ark was brought to and he found it in the UK...
Probably unlikely, but an interesting theory !
http://www.grahamphillips.net/ark/ark1.html
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QuoteAccording to the Bible, the Ark of the Covenant was a miraculous golden chest that contained two sacred stone tablets inscribed with the Ten Commandments. If it existed as it is portrayed in the Bible, the Ark of the Covenant has to be one of the most extraordinary artifacts in history. It could raise storms, radiate divine fire, level city walls, smash chariots and destroy entire armies. Moreover, it could summon angels and even manifest the voice and presence of God. The Ark of the Covenant was kept in Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem until it disappeared from history following the Babylonian invasion of the city in 597 BC. Biblical scholars, archaeologists and adventurers alike have spent years searching for the last resting place of the Ark, but until now its secret hiding place has remained one of history's most enduring mysteries.
In The Templars and the Ark of the Covenant, Graham discovers evidence that this remarkable relic really existed and was discovered by the crusader knights, the Templars, during the Middle Ages and brought back to Europe. From the war-torn Middle East to the quiet British countryside, Graham follows an ancient trail of clues in search of the mysterious lost Ark.
http://www.grahamphillips.net/ark/ark12.html
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According to the Bible, the Ark was carried at the head of the Israelite army,
where it radiated miraculous power.
QuoteAt some time thru out history it was said that the Ark was captured and moved around...or became lost...then In the 1180s, the Templar English Knights Crusaders discovered a sealed cave at the foot of Jebel Madhbah and frantically excavated it to find what they believed to be treasures from the time of the Old Testament. One of these was described as a golden chest. Could it have been the lost Ark? and is it possible that they then brought it or one of the Commandment Stones back to England ?
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Jodi and Graham Russell examine the stream bank where the stone slab was found.
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The inscribed stone slab found near Chapel Green. England
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Moses with the Ten Commandments
QuoteNot the Holy Grail :P not even English That is Mexican Banded Onyx Very typical of Aztek and Mayan modern souvenirs. It is also to simple for ancient celtic carvings
This material is all over the southwest USA
This entire thread so far, and the enormous amount of interesting content, is exactly why I came to PRC.
Amazing story as well to your personal life Zorgon, fascinating events youve experienced.
I hope for a return to this type of meaningful non divisive research and content presentation here, somewhere the train missed a track shift..
Thanks astr0144 for beginning it.
Cheers!
It would be fasinating if some of the Arthur and bible related content was for real L.E..and appreciate your acknowledgement of the thread contents..
Looking at Zorgons Past... he seems to have had a ball between 1995 to 2003 or so on, doing his Land of Legends events..
that amazes me have been mainly held in Las vegas..
Its good to see him and his piers acting out such historical characters ...
Instead of being a Cowboy riding his Horse... "Zs ' still in medievel times as a King / Knight riding his :)
and hes jousting on it !.... wonder what the Indians would make of that ?
Has he also ever been a Cowboy ?
Does he own also own a horse or one it at a ranch ?
Quote from: Littleenki on May 17, 2018, 05:17:14 PM
This entire thread so far, and the enormous amount of interesting content, is exactly why I came to PRC.
Amazing story as well to your personal life Zorgon, fascinating events youve experienced.
I hope for a return to this type of meaningful non divisive research and content presentation here, somewhere the train missed a track shift..
Thanks astr0144 for beginning it.
Cheers!
QuoteNot much about it on here yet :P
The Guild Website is here Still have some bugs, missing links and sound files to fix but most of it is ready. Had to move it from a .us url to .com so it took some time
Main Entry Port
http://landoflegendslv.com/02isle/Island01.html
Guild website
http://landoflegendslv.com/isle.html
Main Website
http://landoflegendslv.com