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Title: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: A51Watcher on November 28, 2018, 07:34:19 AM


On the very same day that America bombed Nagasaki with the Atom bomb, Japan also successfully triggered their own Trinity Atomic test blast.

Is it any wonder they resisted surrendering even after 2 Atom bombs had been dropped on them?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uero3vz87M


Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: spacemaverick on November 30, 2018, 01:26:16 AM
Very interesting indeed.  Never saw this video until now.
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: A51Watcher on November 30, 2018, 07:21:16 AM


Yeah Mav, unsettling to consider that we were a few short weeks away from all out nuclear war with Japan, with nuclear Kamikaze's raining down on our forces and country.
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: The Seeker on November 30, 2018, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: spacemaverick on November 30, 2018, 01:26:16 AM
Very interesting indeed.  Never saw this video until now.
Mav, I am with you, and it strikes me as odd that nothing about this has been public knowledge until now, also noticed that newspaper headline is from the Atlanta Constitution altho I can't read the date on it...

It just seems funny that the Nazi effort to build atomics was well known yet nothing, no rumors or tales about the Japanese research until now...

8)
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: The Seeker on November 30, 2018, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: A51Watcher on November 30, 2018, 07:21:16 AM

Yeah Mav, unsettling to consider that we were a few short weeks away from all out nuclear war with Japan, with nuclear Kamikaze's raining down on our forces and country.
Hmmm, considering we had exactly three bombs built when they did the test at Alamogordo, unless they already had several more in the works, I don't see it going much beyond what did happen for a while unless the Japanese had several almost completed when they tested, A51  8)

it will be interesting to see what else surfaces about this...

Seeker

P.S.: It seems more and more things/events are surfacing that were either very well hidden or from another timeline; an event like that, especially on the front page of the Atlanta Journal, would be widely known around here and I've never heard a peep about it...
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: fansongecho on November 30, 2018, 05:08:23 PM

Indeed Seeker, so much is hidden from us - I am trying to find connections in Germany that "may" have given the US military weapons grade uranium in exchange for the NAZI scientists lives and as part of the Paperclip Program - because I don't for one second believe that the Paperclip Operation was not a signed sealed and delivered backdoor agreement by the NAZI's with the US when they realised that they were going to lose the war, and the Russian Bear was coming to annihilate them - no proof but I am trying to get contacts as I say -  :)

Cheers!

Fans'

PS - Hence the request for collaboration I pinged out a week or so ago  8)
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: robomont on November 30, 2018, 06:53:10 PM
paul harvey once said the japs had already sent surrender notice before the bombs were dropped.like two days prior.

the nazis u shipment was seized two months prior so the emperer knew they had no chance to defend.the two set off in korea were probably a warning to allies but allies knew japan had blown their only stockpile,so werent worried.

what are the odds that both would be set off on the same day?
anything history channel puts out will have propaganda in it.
it always has.
as for paperclip,yes i agree a backdoor deal was made because these scientist were just as guilty as a guard at the death camps.truthfully america was guilty of attrocities too but the victor writes the history.
just as we hear almost nothing about antarctica nazi base yet ive almost proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was a big one there and may still be there.
yet an alliance was formed after the dc ufo threat and roswell ufo was a nazi ufo with jap boys flying it.
they were ambassadors going to usa to offer an alliance but crashed before accomplishing offer.
thats why our technology made great leaps afterwards.but the ufo branch was forked off the regular high tech branch.
the nazis needed supplies,we wanted high tech.so a deal was struck.
the reindeer games were to isolate the russians from the antartica base information by distraction.keep the russians focussed on the north pole.

imho.
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: A51Watcher on November 30, 2018, 11:11:37 PM

Seeker -

The date of that newspaper was Oct. 3, 1946.

(http://www.reformation.org/atlanta-constitution2.jpg)


It would be a simple matter for anyone living in GA to visit their local library and look up the newspaper in question in the newspaper microfiche reels.


(https://sites.google.com/site/naziabomb/_/rsrc/1472869201127/home/japan-s-a-bomb-project/Jap%20BombersOverNewYork.jpg)


Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: A51Watcher on November 30, 2018, 11:25:13 PM
The following page gives detailed answers to many of the questions.

It appears this information was kept under wraps by all sides.

Even Groves and MacArthur professed to know nothing about it when asked.

All sides were in the dark about each others progress and how much stockpile they had.

One Japanese general argued with the Emperor against surrendering after Hiroshima because he said he was positive the US had only one such bomb created.



https://sites.google.com/site/naziabomb/home/japan-s-a-bomb-project (https://sites.google.com/site/naziabomb/home/japan-s-a-bomb-project)


Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: A51Watcher on November 30, 2018, 11:35:03 PM


Robo -

Your timetable is way off. The events in question took place in 1945 not 47.

Jap boys flying Nazi saucers as ambassadors for an alliance doesn't fit either considering they spent the year snooping on our Manhattan projects sites.


Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 01, 2018, 02:14:07 AM
So it was the damn Japs that woke up Godzilla?
My o my  8) ;D
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 01, 2018, 02:54:14 PM
More Georgia News papers reported this story.
Augusta Chronicle Thursday, Oct 03, 1946 Augusta, GA

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Augusta_Chronicle_1946-10-03_1.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Augusta_Chronicle_1946-10-03_2.png)

EDITED:
Also found this one:

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/Columbus_Daily_Enquirer_1946-10-03_1.png)
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: robomont on December 01, 2018, 04:14:10 PM
Quote from: A51Watcher on November 30, 2018, 11:35:03 PM

Robo -

Your timetable is way off. The events in question took place in 1945 not 47.

Jap boys flying Nazi saucers as ambassadors for an alliance doesn't fit either considering they spent the year snooping on our Manhattan projects sites.
no im saying afterwards,odds are some japs made it to antarctica with the nazis.i claim over at my antarctic meltdown thread at tap,that theres a ufo with a nuke engine currently in meltdown.that nazis were more focused on engines while america was focused on  bombs.as it takes alot of power to run those very heavy ufos.they were very heavy because they were trying to create very strong magnetic fields using iron hulls and to shield the humans against the magnetic fields.
admiral byrd stirred them up and the nazis wanted a peace agreement of secret trade.america was allowed to continue the belief of a win and the nazis would continue their research into science.as the scientist enjoyed science.it was their calling in life.
theres hints of this story in w.a. harbinsons"genesis"book.scientist love science and just wanted to be left alone to research,but needed research supplies.they traded high tech in exchange for nuts,bolts,wire.general supplies.the subs had already been refitted as cargo shippers which means demilitarized,so the subs were not a threat.

i also want to point out the size of explosion from the jap bomb in one of the articles,1100 yards diameter is not very big.has the gov been lying about the minumum amount of uranium needed for fission?
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: ArMaP on December 01, 2018, 05:41:39 PM
Quote from: robomont on December 01, 2018, 04:14:10 PM
has the gov been lying about the minumum amount of uranium needed for fission?
Another possibility: the source of this story is the one lying. :)
Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: fansongecho on December 01, 2018, 06:08:41 PM

Some interesting NSA archives material here for further reading - I cant find a mention of the Japanese Nuk but there are 77 documents to scour through -

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/index.htm

https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/bomb/large/index.php



Title: Re: Japan's final secret - The Atom Bomb
Post by: space otter on December 01, 2018, 09:59:18 PM



trapped at the computer waiting for my floor to dry.. i thought i'ld take a shot at this...but i will have to read it all later
there's more out there...

google search using this  japanese atomic bomb project

turns up plenty to read

an interesting part of history i had not heard about..thanks guys



https://www.atomicheritage.org/history/japanese-atomic-bomb-project

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program

https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-japan-bomb-20150805-story.html

https://fas.org/nuke/guide/japan/nuke/

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/new-documents-found-pointing-to-japanese-atomic-bomb-pr-1722338915

and a 45 m video on you tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uero3vz87M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2YayURnztU