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Title: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2019, 11:31:28 PM
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5G NETWORK BEING PUSHED ON THE PUBLIC WITH ZERO CONCERN FOR SAFETY (https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/5g-network-being-pushed-on-the-public-with-zero-concern-for-safety/)


https://youtu.be/OMxfffqyDtc

The Truth About 5G


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-qzqOhDc_0

5G is just the tip of the iceberg
ScottiesTech.Info


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrhIAf5Pdfc

5G Technology Results that will Literally Melt Your Heart


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhECDSuXRDs

What Is 5G? & How 5G Will Change The World!



Frightening Frequencies: The Dangers of 5G & What You Can Do ... (https://eluxemagazine.com/magazine/dangers-of-5g/)

Many studies have associated low-level RFR exposure with a litany of health effects, including:
   •   DNA single and double-strand breaks (which leads to cancer)
   •   oxidative damage (which leads to tissue deterioration and premature aging)
   •   disruption of cell metabolism.
   •   increased blood-brain barrier permeability.

More items... (https://eluxemagazine.com/magazine/dangers-of-5g/)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2019, 11:35:59 PM

Verizon to launch 5G in Florida | ZDNet (https://www.zdnet.com/article/verizon-to-launch-5g-in-florida/)

Oct 24, 2018 - Verizon has announced that the fifth US city to receive its 5G network will be Panama City, Florida, as the carrier aims to "stabilize and ...


Florida's Panama City is Newest Verizon 5G City – Droid Life (https://www.droid-life.com/2018/10/25/floridas-panama-city-is-newest-verizon-5g-home-city/)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2019, 11:37:26 PM
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Take Back Your Power - Full Movie HD [InPower Movement]
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2019, 11:44:30 PM

20,000 SATELLITES FOR 5G TO BE LAUNCHED SENDING FOCUSED BEAMS OF INTENSE MICROWAVE RADIATION OVER ENTIRE EARTH (https://www.wakingtimes.com/2019/01/08/20000-satellites-for-5g-to-be-launched-sending-focused-beams-of-intense-microwave-radiation-over-entire-earth/)

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Irene on April 13, 2019, 11:56:41 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2019, 11:35:59 PM

Verizon to launch 5G in Florida | ZDNet (https://www.zdnet.com/article/verizon-to-launch-5g-in-florida/)

Oct 24, 2018 - Verizon has announced that the fifth US city to receive its 5G network will be Panama City, Florida, as the carrier aims to "stabilize and ...

Florida's Panama City is Newest Verizon 5G City – Droid Life (https://www.droid-life.com/2018/10/25/floridas-panama-city-is-newest-verizon-5g-home-city/)

How the hell do they decide where they're going to launch this stuff?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 14, 2019, 01:13:49 AM
Back in the 70's, high power microwaves were used by the alphabet groups, to intercept telephone conversations without hardwire taps. That I know for a fact.  ;)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: WhatTheHey on April 14, 2019, 04:52:16 AM
   ::)  Welp!....... Its time for more then just a foil hat!!!!    Looks like that hat needs a neutralizing frequency....Or maybe a metal outer shell with a dielectric insulating inner one..... Maybe even a Faraday cage for the head. lol  ... Or we could all wear microwaves on our heads.....lol  I wonder how much signal a microwave casing would stop.  Seems like it could actually help.... lol   Man, we should probably all wear body suits, like Faraday coveralls...lol
    If we don't do something it sounds like we will all be getting BBQ-ed.  But from the inside out. Yep, we'll be burning from the inside out and that's a bit biblical....lol                     
  Brings new meaning to KEEP A COOL HEAD...... ;D   
Caves are looking better all the time.  A bit of spelunking anyone?  Don't forget your hardhat.  8)

  Everybody stay cool.....and indoors in a heavy steel and concrete building.....lol 
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: zorgon on April 14, 2019, 07:33:08 AM
Not sure what all the fuss is about?

microwaves are nicrowaves  Doesn't really matter the frequency  what matters is intensity \

So a regular microwave oven puts out 750 (small one) to 1000 (normal) watts...

A cell tower puts out 1000 watts per channel.  Climb a tower you get fried same as sticking your head into that oven (I would recommend doing neither :P)

So the 5G is merely a different frequency

'The primary differences between the 2.4 GHz and 5GHz wireless frequencies are range and bandwidth. 5GHz provides faster data rates at a shorter distance, whereas 2.4GHz offers coverage for farther distances, but may perform at slower speeds. ... Higher frequencies allow faster transmission of data, also known as bandwidth."

So  why all the fuss?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: zorgon on April 14, 2019, 07:38:32 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 14, 2019, 01:13:49 AM
Back in the 70's, high power microwaves were used by the alphabet groups, to intercept telephone conversations without hardwire taps. That I know for a fact.  ;)

yes Mr Q :P and still are..

They also transmit TV signals, emergency communication, smart meters, radar units,

QuoteMicrowaves are widely used in modern technology, for example in point-to-point communication links, wireless networks, microwave radio relay networks, radar, satellite and spacecraft communication, medical diathermy and cancer treatment, remote sensing, radio astronomy, particle accelerators, spectroscopy, industrial heating, collision avoidance systems, garage door openers and keyless entry systems, and for cooking food in microwave ovens.

The caveat here is that microwaves travel LINE OF SITE  So since the wave length is shorter in 5G you will need more relay points in order for the signal to work
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on April 14, 2019, 12:03:20 PM
Quote from: zorgon on April 14, 2019, 07:33:08 AM
Not sure what all the fuss is about?
Ignorance, as usual.

People that want to spread confusion among the population (either a specific one or the generic population) just need to find a subject that most people are ignorant about and present it in a scary way.

It works every time, if people do not take the time to get informed about it.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 14, 2019, 08:23:33 PM
Greetings ArMaP:

Quotethat want to spread confusion among the population (either a specific one or the generic population) just need to find a subject that most people are ignorant about and present it in a scary way.

Are you implying that there is NO DANGER from 5G?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on April 14, 2019, 10:06:08 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 14, 2019, 08:23:33 PM
Are you implying that there is NO DANGER from 5G?
I was not implying any thing, but the danger from 5G is the same that existed before with the use of those frequencies, as they are not new.

For example, one of the new (for cellphone use) frequencies is known as "K band" and has been used by amateur radio operators. Another one, the "Ka band" is used mostly to communicate with satellites and in some radars.

As zorgon said above, the danger lies in the power used and the distance from the antenna, like in any other radio system. As 5G is a short distance communication system the power used is low.

PS: radio is not really an area in which I have more than a little knowledge, but I would the opinion of someone that was an amateur radio operator. :)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: zorgon on April 14, 2019, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 14, 2019, 08:23:33 PM
Greetings ArMaP:

Are you implying that there is NO DANGER from 5G?

No he , as am I , is saying the danger is the same as any other frequency of microwave  5G means 5 gigahertz as opposed to the current 2.5 gigahertz

If anything it will be less dangerous because the range is shorter and it carries tons MORE data for the same energy output (bandwidth)

Similar idea as an old modem carried 56K transfer speed and today a good internet connection can handle multiple lines at the same time with 300M rate for less power than the single line 56K modem

BTW what I find really amusing is that people claim they are hiding cell towers with fake tree branches :P Well no, it is merely an attempt to make them a little more aesthetic in a neighbor hood  No one is fooled LOL

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2019, 12:43:57 AM
Zorgon
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microwaves are microwaves  Doesn't really matter the frequency  what matters is intensity \

We're so glad you brought up frequency.   :P

FRIGHTENING FREQUENCIES: THE DANGERS OF 5G & WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT THEM (https://eluxemagazine.com/magazine/dangers-of-5g/)

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By Jody McCutcheon

As the old saying goes, give us an inch and inevitably we'll want a mile. And certainly, this sentiment is true with technology.

Who doesn't want faster, bigger (or smaller), more efficient? Take wireless mobile telecommunications. Our current broadband cellular network platform, 4G (or fourth generation), allows us to transmit data faster than 3G and everything that preceded. We can access information faster now than ever before in history. What more could we want? Oh, yes, transmission speeds powerful enough to accommodate the (rather horrifying) so-called  Internet of Things. Which brings us to 5G.

Until now, mobile broadband networks have been designed to meet the needs of people. But 5G has been created with machines' needs in mind, offering low-latency, high-efficiency data transfer. It achieves this by breaking data down into smaller packages, allowing for faster transmission times. Whereas 4G has a fifty-millisecond delay, 5G data transfer will offer a mere one-millisecond delay–we humans won't notice the difference, but it will permit machines to achieve near-seamless communication. Which in itself  may open a whole Pandora's box of trouble for us – and our planet.

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More bandwidth – more dangers of 5G
Let's start with some basic background on 5G technology. Faster processing speeds require more bandwidth, yet our current frequency bandwidths are quickly becoming saturated. The idea behind 5G is to use untapped bandwidth of the extremely high-frequency millimeter wave (MMW), between 30GHz and 300GHz, in addition to some lower and mid-range frequencies.

High-frequency MMWs travel a short distance. Furthermore, they don't travel well through buildings and tend to be absorbed by rain and plants, leading to signal interference. Thus, the necessary infrastructure would require many smaller, barely noticeable cell towers situated closer together, with more input and output ports than there are on the much larger, easier to see 4G towers. This would likely result in wireless antennas every few feet, on every lamp post and utility pole in your neighborhood.

Here are some numbers to put things into perspective: as of 2015, there were 308,000 wireless antennas on cell towers and buildings. That's double the 2002 number. Yet 5G would require exponentially more, smaller ones, placed much closer together, with each emitting bursts of radio-frequency radiation (RFR)–granted, at levels much lower than that of today's 4G cell towers–that will be much harder to avoid because these towers will be ubiquitous. If we could see the RFR, it would look like a smog that's everywhere, all the time.

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Serious health concerns
First, it's important to know that in 2011, the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer classified RFR as a potential 2B carcinogen and specified that the use of mobile phones could lead to specific forms of brain   tumors.
Many studies have associated low-level RFR exposure with a litany of health effects, including:

  • DNA single and double-strand breaks (which leads to cancer)

  • oxidative damage (which leads to tissue deterioration and premature aging)

  • disruption of cell metabolism

  • increased blood-brain barrier permeability

  • melatonin reduction (leading to insomnia and increasing cancer risks)

  • disruption of brain glucose metabolism

  • generation of stress proteins (leading to myriad diseases)
      
As mentioned, the new 5G technology utilizes higher-frequency MMW bands, which give off the same dose of radiation as airport scanners.

The effects of this radiation on public health have yet to undergo the rigors of long-term testing.

Adoption of 5G will mean more signals carrying more energy through the high-frequency spectrum, with more transmitters located closer to people's homes and workplaces–basically a lot more (and more potent) RFR flying around us. It's no wonder that apprehension exists over potential risks, to both human and environmental health.

Perhaps the strongest concern involves adverse effects of MMWs on human skin. This letter to the Federal Communications Commission, from Dr Yael Stein of Jerusalem's Hebrew University, outlines the main points. Over ninety percent of microwave radiation is absorbed by the epidermis and dermis layers, so human skin basically acts as an absorbing sponge for microwave radiation. Disquieting as this may sound, it's generally considered acceptable so long as the violating wavelengths are greater than the skin layer's dimensions. But MMW's violate this condition.

Furthermore, the sweat ducts in the skin's upper layer act like helical antennas, which are specialized antennas constructed specifically to respond to electromagnetic fields. With millions of sweat ducts, and 5G's increased RFR needs, it stands to reason that our bodies will become far more conductive to this radiation. The full ramifications of this fact are presently unclear, especially for more vulnerable members of the public (e.g., babies, pregnant women, the elderly), but this technology.

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Other distressing research
Unfortunately, innocent animals have already been the victims of testing to see MMW's effects on living cells. Extrapolating the results from animal testing to humans isn't straightforward, but the results nonetheless raise some serious red flags. Perhaps most significantly, a US National Toxicology Program study noted that male rats exposed to RFR for nine hours a day over two years developed rare forms of tumours in the brain and heart, and rats of both sexes developed DNA damage.

The researchers noted that the increased risk to the rats was relatively small; but if these findings translate to humans, the widespread increase in cellphone use could have a significant impact on populations. Thus the NTP study served to renew the debate about the potential harmful effects of cellphones on human health. Not only that, it caused a significant shift in the American Cancer Society's understanding of radiation and cancer, and sparked them to state that our ignorance of RFR's impact on human health could be compared to our previous obliviousness to the connection between smoking and lung cancer.

Other animal research worldwide illustrates how microwave radiation in general and MMW's in particular can damage the eyes and immune system, cell growth rate, even bacterial resistance. An experiment at the Medical Research Institute of Kanazawa Medical University showed that 60GHz millimeter-wave antennas produce thermal injuries in rabbit eyes, with thermal effects reaching below the eye's surface. This study, meanwhile, suggests low-level MMW's caused lens opacity–a precursor to cataracts–in rats' eyes. A Chinese study demonstrated that eight hours' of microwave radiation damaged rabbits' lens epithelial cells. A Pakistani study concluded that exposure to mobile phone EMF prevented chicken embryo retinal cells from properly differentiating.

This Russian study revealed that exposing healthy mice to low-intensity, extremely high-frequency electromagnetic radiation severely compromised their immune systems. And a 2016 Armenian study concluded that low-intensity MMW's not only depressed the growth of E. coli and other bacteria, but also changed certain properties and activity levels of the cells. The same Armenian study noted that MMW interaction with bacteria could lead to antibiotic resistance–distressing news, considering immunity to bacteria is already compromised due to the overuse of antibiotics.

Again, if these findings translate to humans, our rampant cellphone use would likely cause profound, adverse health effects; an increase in MMW's as more bandwidth is introduced could further complicate the matter.

But what's also important to note here is that 5G technologies will not only have a profound impact on human health, but on the health of all living organisms it touches, including plants, as we shall see.

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5G harms the planet, too
Equally disturbing, 5G technology puts environmental health at risk in a number of ways. First, MMWs may pose a serious threat to plant health. This 2010 study showed that the leaves of aspen seedlings exposed to RFR exhibited symptoms of necrosis, while another Armenian study suggested low-intensity MMW's cause "peroxidase isoenzyme spectrum changes"–basically a stress response that damages cells–in wheat shoots. Plant irradiation is bad news for the planet's flora, but it's bad news for us, too: it could contaminate our food supply.

Second, the 5G infrastructure would pose a threat to our planet's atmosphere. Network implementation will require the deployment of many, short-lifespan satellites via suborbital rockets propelled by hydrocarbon rocket engines. According to this 2010 California study, launching too many of these babies will vomit enough black carbon into the atmosphere to pollute global atmospheric conditions, affecting distribution of ozone and temperature. Worse, solid-state rocket exhaust contains chlorine, an ozone-destroying chemical. How can any government seriously concerned about climate change allow for this?

Third, 5G will potentially threaten natural ecosystems. According to several reports over the last two decades–some of which are summarized here–low-level, non-ionizing microwave radiation affects bird and bee health. It drives birds from their nests and causes plume deterioration, locomotion problems, reduced survivorship and death. And bee populations suffer from reduced egg-laying abilities of queen bees and smaller colony sizes. More evidence of ecosystem disruption comes from this 2012 meta-study, which indicates that 593 of 919 research studies suggest that RFR adversely affects plants, animals and humans.

It bears repeating: 5G is bad news for all living creatures and the planet we share.

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Beware the propaganda deluge

Despite being fully aware of all these unsettling results, threats and concerns, the US corporatocracy continues to maintain a gung-ho attitude about 5G. The Mobile Now Act was passed in 2016, and many US states have since gone ahead with 5G plans. The telecom industry's biggest players have basically co-opted government powers to enforce their 5G agenda, with companies like AT&T and Qualcomm having begun live testing. And despite research showing serious threats to humans and the planet, the FCC Chairman announced intentions to open low-, mid- and high-frequency spectrums, without even mentioning a single word about the dangers.

They're going to sell this to us as 'faster browsing speeds' – but the truth is, you'll barely even notice the difference. They're going to call anyone who protests against 5G a 'Luddite' or 'technophobe'. But why such a willingness to embrace another new technology – even though it carries serious risks and brings spurious benefits? Why not heed the lessons learned from killer products like asbestos, tobacco and leaded gasoline?

Because a tiny percentage of people will gain an awful lot of money, is one reason. And because companies and governments will be given unprecedented amounts of power over civilians is the other.

All isn't doom and gloom, though. At least one US politician is maintaining some level-headedness: in October, California Governor Jerry Brown stopped legislation that would have allowed the telecom industry to inundate the state with mini-towers. Brown's bold actions have permitted localities a say in where and how many cell towers are placed.

The state of Hawaii has stopped 5G and smart meters by collectively threatening to charge every person who installed such meters with liability for any health problems residents may suffer.

Moreover, 180 scientists have started a petition to warn of 5G potential health effects. Maybe these actions will afford more time for additional studies and data collection. Just as importantly, maybe they'll cause other politicians and figureheads to reflect on what they've been pushing for.

Take action
In the meantime, we as individuals must do everything we can to protect ourselves. Here's what you can do:

•  Understand EMFs and their behaviors. Get a good quality radiation detector to know whether or not you're near high levels of EMFs.

•  Protect yourself with an EMF Shield to mark and protect you from hotspots. Try a patented product that neutralizes the harmful effects of mobile phones and other EMF emitting devices on humans.

•  Whenever possible, limit your exposure: use an anti-radiation headset or speaker mode while talking on a cellphone.

•  Refuse to use 5G phones and devices. Full stop. And discourage those you know from doing so.

•  Refuse to buy anything 'smart' – 'smart' appliances, 'smart' heaters, etc.

•  Some believe that carrying shungite crystals can offer some protection from radiation

•  No matter what, do NOT get a smart meter – these put high levels of 5G radiation right in your home

•  Join the growing numbers of dissenters. Get active with them here.

•  Do as the Hawaiians have done and threaten smart meter and 5G tech installers with liability. You can learn how to do that here.

•  Spread the word! Please share this article with everyone you know
      
Even if the policy drivers and governments aren't doing their due diligence, at least we can say we're doing ours.

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Sources
http://www.cellphonecancer.com/the-looming-health-risks-of-5g-technology/

https://www.electricsense.com/12399/5g-radiation-dangers/

http://thehill.com/opinion/technology/357591-public-health-is-littered-with-examples-where-economic-interests-trumped

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cellphone-5g-health-20160808-snap-story.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how-might-cellphone-signals-cause-cancer

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/major-u-s-study-links-cellphone-exposure-to-cancer-in-rats

http://www.saferemr.com/2016/05/national-toxicology-progam-finds-cell.html
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2019, 12:59:21 AM
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Promoting 5G is Reckless and Scientifically Indefensible (http://scientists4wiredtech.com/2019/03/promoting-5g-is-reckless-and-scientifically-indefensible/)

By Cindy Sage, Editor, BioInitiative Reports
In response to Kevin Werbach's 3/6/19 opinion piece in the NY Times.

It's not just about competition. This one-sided opinion by an economist does nothing to lay out what else the public should know about big problems coming with 5G.

It is also about associated health impacts from 5G and installing the infrastructure via small cells that are, in fact, large emitters of far more radiofrequency radiation than we have now. Health hazards from chronic exposure to cell phone radiation are already scientifically established beyond a reasonable doubt.

Children born in the last 20 years with heavy exposures to wireless at home and at school now have cancer risks that are epidemiologically visible (testicular cancer in boys age 15-19, malignant brain tumors in adolescents at five times the rate of adults).

The epidemic rate of profound mental and behavioral impairments in newborns who will not have normal cognitive function in their lifetimes is in part due to maternal use of cell phones during pregnancy, even as Telecom companies lobby to stop maintaining safe landlines and shift us all to unhealthy and addictive wireless phones.

Nationally, the 4G and 5G densification scheme requires the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of new mini-cell towers mounted on utility poles in front of homes down every block in America. Informed resistance over health harm should doom this scheme which is clearly a federal usurping of public rights-of-way.

5G institutionalizes profit for Telecom and Wireless industries at the expense of public health and safety. No amount of industry self-promotion and complicity of the FCC as a captured agency of that industry can cover up how dangerous and unnecessary this 5G rollout will be. Every movement of its citizens will be trackable, and thus made vulnerable to commercial manipulation, surveillance and disruption.

Clearly, 5G and the Internet of Thing is a marketing bonanza for many industries that want to cash in. Most people have no need or want of more gadgets that monitor every little phase of life, particularly when the network is so prone to hacking, surveillance and privacy problems and disruption of basic services. This is only a boon to industries that want to make money on contrived needs that make ever deeper demands for wireless capacity.

New federal regulations from the FCC have recently attempted to obliterate local community authority to have any say in whether and when this new blanket of hundreds of thousands of 4G an 5G cell sites can happen, while attempting to tie the hands of communities to talk about health issues or say no to this federal power grab. Not surprising, this FCC September 2018 order, FCC 18-133, is facing multiple law suits from many counties, cities and townships. The law suits have been consolidated in in Federal Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.

When the market is forced to face the true costs of 5G to public safety, privacy, disruption of basic services, health damage, both foreign and domestic surveillance and hacking risks, and loss of personal choice – the entire fraud perpetrated by the greedy wireless industry and underwritten by the FCC will be visible and parties will be held accountable.

The New York Times has an ethical obligation to cover these adverse impacts of 4G and 5G densified infrastructure, as well.

Cindy Sage
Editor, BioInitiative Reports
Grass Valley, CA
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2019, 01:19:58 AM
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Sprint Cell Tower Will Be Removed From School Grounds (http://scientists4wiredtech.com/2019/03/sprint-cell-tower-will-be-removed-from-school-grounds/)

As a follow-up to this Mar 12 story that got picked up by Newsweek . . .

Adapted from an article By Jessica Mensch, Mar 23, 2019 | Original article here.

RIPON, CA — Parents in Ripon have been fighting for a Sprint cell tower to come down for roughly two years and they're calling the company's latest decision a major win.

"It's been a very hard battle, a very hard battle. And I'm hoping we've reached the end of it," mother Kellie Prime said. Now, these parents can breathe a sigh of relief after learning the cell tower outside of their sons' former school, Weston Elementary, will soon be moved. Prime and Monica Ferrulli have been fighting for this since their sons, Kyle and Mason, were diagnosed with cancer.

"Talking to specialists in the field, scientists, our own doctors," Ferrulli explained. "All the information that we gathered indicated that that tower could be a factor in their illness.'

These moms believe that the tower had any impact on their children's cancer, especially as more students and teachers fell ill. They say a total of eight were diagnosed with cancer in the past couple of years.

Prime said, "Having so many at one school in the district, with that tower being the one thing that sets Weston apart from the other schools, it's the only thing we had to look into,"

After holding protests, and taking their substantial evidence showing harms from 24/7 exposures to pulsed, data-modulated, Radio-frequency Electromagnetic Microwave Radiation (RF-EMR) to the school board, Sprint now says it plans to move the cell tower.

Adrienne Norton, Sprint Corporate Communications, said.
"We do understand and respect the views of the community. We're committed to being good neighbors,"

The company stresses, that the tower is fully compliant with state and federal regulations.

"It's actually operating at less than one percent, hundreds of times below federal limits," Norton explained. That is what makes this decision so important.

Sprint's decision to move the cell tower recognizes that compliance with federal FCC RF-EMR exposure limits is not protective and, therefore "being hundreds of times below the federal RF-EMR exposure limits" is meaningless.

There are cancer clusters all over the US in areas surrounding cell towers that are compliant with FCC RF-EMR exposure limits. Another recent public health crisis that was reported to the FCC was for a Crown Castle cell tower in Sebastopol, CA: five deaths and 12 illnesses over the last ten years in a three-story apartment building that is 260 feet from the Crown Castle cell tower. Peak RF-EMR exposures on the third floor of this building were measured between 1,000,000 µW/m² and 3,600,000 µW/m²m which is 10% to 36% of the absurdly high FCC RF-EMR exposure limit of 10,000,000 µW/m² for frequencies of 1500 MHz or higher.

Since so-called "Small Cells" that are as close at 15 feet from homes routinely exhibit exposures that are "compliant" but in this 1% to 30% of the FCC-limit range, then the densified 4G and 5G infrastructure rollout should not be allowed in residential areas or near schools.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on April 15, 2019, 01:35:26 AM
They even say "at levels much lower than that of today's 4G cell towers", but then say "adoption of 5G will mean more signals carrying more energy through the high-frequency spectrum".  ::)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2019, 02:43:08 AM
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Weaponizing Frequencies: The Coming 5G Tidal Wave (https://prepareforchange.net/2018/11/24/weaponizing-frequencies-the-coming-5g-tidal-wave/)

November 24, 2018
By Edward Morgan

Psychotronic millimeter wave weaponry is coming to a street near you, with the potential to unleash disease on a mass scale. Welcome to the new fifth generation of wi-fi called 5G, where the speed to send full-length, high definition movies to your iPad is ten times faster.

The Consequences
The need for speed has the consequence of going from moderate to severe health effects in record time. Note that 4G operates at 2.5 GHz or oscillates about 2.5 billion times per second.

This frequency mimics water molecules in your body, and was chosen specifically for broadcasting services and equipment under government license. This means that all company products must meet this frequency or be deemed illegal.

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For what purpose is matching the human body's frequency, you may ask, other than for weaponization? Good question.

The higher frequencies of 5G – 100 GHz and beyond – will use small-scale wireless refrigerator-sized boxes, placed in front of every 2-10 homes on every street, in every city.

As you watch the latest Hollywood flick, you will bask, unaware, in microwave emissions that oscillate at the same rate as your blood and oxygen molecules. These frequencies can cause burning sensations on your skin, impact fertility, as well as alter the electrochemical waves of your brain to affect consciousness.

Awaiting Installation of 5G
Secret testing of 5G emissions made its debut during the 2018 Olympics, and then again at the 2018 Super Bowl where over 67,000 people were part of a stress-test without their consent.

Soon, the 5G antennae networks will be beta tested in nineteen U.S. cities including San Francisco, Los Angeles, Jacksonville, and San Jose.

High frequency 5G signals travel shorter distances and are easily blocked by buildings and trees.

What is the point?

Why create new technology that takes humanity in reverse?

No time for answers.

It's full steam ahead to remove the obstacles that block the signals.

First the trees.

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Directed Fires And Poisoned Trees
Many people in California report that the extensive "weird fires" are destroying homes and leaving trees untouched. Everything does not burn. At other times, the metal of cars and rails burned with the leaves on trees, leaving tree trunks and kindling.

https://youtu.be/Q2q7nN0JYWE

Santa Rosa & Northern CA Fires DEFY THE LAWS of PHYSICS

Could these unusual fires be the result of lasers from Directed Energy Weapons?

Whole forests have been devastated down straight lines, obeying fence lines. Add to that, the sanctioned poisoning of hardwood trees by timber companies that has led to over one million dead trees to create a fire hazard.

Are the trees being destroyed merely to unblock hazardous signals? Is this treason/tree-son on multiple levels? These same millimeter waves have been used by the U.S. Army as a crowd control dispersal weapon called Active Denial Systems.

Firefighters in Sacramento have reported memory problems and confusion following the installation of new towers outside the city fire station. Some cities, including Santa Rosa, have halted their 5G plans while health concerns are addressed.

Tree Towers
The power of trees keep us calm by acting on our autonomic nervous system, as well as our spirit.

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Numerous studies show a dose-response relationship between urban tree cover density and self-reported stress recovery. Studies show reduced physiological markers of stress in subjects simply looking at images of nature.

Unless we can stand up, speak up, collaborate and network, we risk being victims of the attack coming at us unseen, as millimeter waves are directed at our bodies and minds. If we feel powerless and isolated now, imagine what it will feel like once the new networks are installed and operational.

Imagine what it will be like when the trees are replaced with towers that look like trees. We only feel isolated when we work alone and isolate ourselves. Like a forest, there is strength in numbers.

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Massive 5G Cell Towers Disguised as Trees
Camilla Reese of Electromagnetichealth.org says we are facing actions at the federal and FCC levels that will create a dense network of high-intensity 4G and 5G microwave radiating cellular antennas in front of homes across America.

Moreover, federal legislation, S 3157, would severely reduce local revenues, shorten review times for applications and curtail local control over siting of cell towers.

Camilla says the movement to stop this rollout is necessary for health but is also about getting corporate money out of politics and building an independent media not dependent on toxic polluters and the corruption driving it.

Health Effects of 5G
Because 5G frequencies affect oxygen molecules, they affect all biological systems, including DNA, circadian rhythm, heart function, hormonal regulation, and immune system.

Hundreds of scientists have expressed concern that humans may experience serious health risks including increases in blindness, cataracts, retinal degeneration, hearing loss, male infertility, cancers, peripheral nervous system damage, impacts on immune cells, red blood cells leading to low cellular oxygen, and impaired transport of nutrients into cells. Impacts on birds and plants may be more severe than the impacts on humans.

Read: Hundreds of Birds Dead During 5G Experiment in The Hague, Netherlands (http://humansarefree.com/2018/11/hundreds-of-birds-dead-during-5g.html)

Beyond direct effects to health, harmful frequencies threaten society as a whole by ignoring the human right to informed-consent to high levels of radiation.

All life on the planet has a right to health and a healthy life. By accepting the 5G rollout without a discussion, as happened with the airport scanners, we give up sovereignty over our bodies and accelerate our demise.

These frequencies ionize metals being sprayed into the atmosphere under military "geo-engineering" programs to charge the atmosphere, along with our bodies. These programs further block the healing frequencies of the sun required by all life.

S 3157 has bipartisan support and currently faces little opposition. It could slip through the Senate via unanimous consent, appear in the House briefly and get attached to a spending bill — without any debate or roll-call votes specific to S 3157.

This would wipe out nearly all the protective ordinances already passed by forward-looking cities.

On September 26, 2018, the FCC is scheduled to vote through its Wireless Infrastructure Order (dockets 17-79 and 17-84). This order attempts to preempt local control of the public rights-of-way.

Wireless companies could then more easily install — in front of homes — cell towers that would irradiate those nearby with intense, pulsed, data-modulated, Radio-frequency Electromagnetic Microwave Radiation (RF-EMR) — 24/7.

Some Solutions

   •   Voice the power of NO to all new generation wi-fi systems without proven
                safety.

   •   Hardwire all electrical connections or unplug wi-fi before sleeping.

   •   Use aluminum screens on windows to block EMF signals.

   •   Use RF-shielding paint to block EMF signals.

   •   Consume Carbon60, a powerful antioxidant, metal absorber, and carrier of
                metals out of the body.

   •   Unsubscribe to the genetically-modified corporate food system.

   •   Eat an organic diet to strengthen and maintain your immune system.

   •   Come together in small communities to maintain simple wi-fi for the
                benefit and balance of the group.

   •   Grow your own food. Plant a garden. Grow herbs and fruit trees.

   •   Stop using aluminum cookware, antiperspirants, baking powder, vaccines.

   •   Remove the outdoor refrigerators from your sightline.

In usual form, attacks to human health and the health of the planet are coming from new technologies that are unproven, untested, and amoral. Though government attempts to divide humanity, we are all Earthlings united at the level of our cells and our microbes.

Do we slow down and preserve our smallest inhabitants? Or do we accept the coming tidal wave? Speed for the sake of speed is the ideology of a cancer cell.

Source: http://humansarefree.com

We'll leave you with this to consider:

"Putting in tens of millions of 5G antennae without a single biological test of safety has to be about the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world."

Martin L. Pal
Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry and
Medical Sciences at Washington State University

...errr, perhaps.... :P

All-Time Darwin Award: The Nuclear Industry (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10998.msg144155#msg144155)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2019, 02:46:02 AM
Firefighters Living Next to Cell Towers Suffer Neurological Damage (http://scientists4wiredtech.com/2018/07/firefighters-living-next-to-cell-towers-suffer-neurological-damage/)

"The fire station cell tower measured at 1/1000th to 2/1000th of the allowable FCC limit of non-ionizing radiation. That means the towers could be almost 1000 times more powerful than the level the firefighters were exposed to, and still be considered within FCC guidelines. And yet even at these levels of radiation, we found brain abnormalities and measurable neurological deficits."
[-]
Once cell towers were activated on or adjacent to their fire stations, they could no longer function without severe headache, inability to sleep, and foggy thinking. These are not symptoms we wish to see in our First Responders.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZrWEp4lWqg

ABC-7 News: LA Firefighters Halt Cell Towers on Fire Stations Due to Radiation Concerns


Firefighters Do Not Want Cell Towers On Their Schools Because of the "Hazardous" Radiation: Compare it to Cigarettes (http://safetechforschoolsmaryland.blogspot.com/2016/04/firefighters-do-not-want-cell-towers-on.html)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2019, 02:47:51 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3tAxnNccY

5G APOCALYPSE - THE EXTINCTION
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 30, 2019, 07:56:18 PM

5G Affects Weather Prediction, Geoengineering News, and new ClimateViewer 3D! (https://climateviewer.com/2019/03/15/5g-affects-weather-prediction-geoengineering-news-new-climateviewer-3d/)


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5G Waves Surprise! More 5G complications (2 articles) (https://www.smombiegate.org/5g-waves-surprise-more-5g-complications-2-articles/)

From the EDN Network:
Brian Santo -February 15, 2019

Excerpt:
As network operators furtively roll out 5G services, the cellular communications industry is learning about 5G on the fly, finding one unexpected challenge after another. It's more difficult than they had anticipated, and in response they're incurring greater startup costs than they'd originally budgeted for.

One ray of sunshine: millimeter wave (mmWave) signals are more robust than many had feared. So far it seems the worries about rain fade and soft obstructions, such as foliage, were overblown.

A critical element of 5G is virtualizing the network, with the goal of making communications networks endlessly configurable to suit the various and changing needs of network users. On-demand network reconfigurability creates a need to make sure that each new configuration is delivering what was ordered. By definition, testing in advance is not possible.

5G has qualities new to cellular communications, including network configurability and lower latency that presage innumerable potential new uses, but the first impression most people are going to have of 5G is going to be with familiar telephony and broadband services. It would be bad for carriers if phone and internet on 5G networks aren't appreciably better than they are on 4G. Services on 5G had better not be worse.

Carriers are consequently calling on their T&M partners to extend their test capabilities from the lab into the network itself, to a) make sure the technology works when installed and b) new services perform as advertised when they're spun up.....SNIP

Read the full article here:
https://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/5g-waves/4461384/5G-buildout-will-be-more-involved-than-we-ve-been-led-to-believe?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=link&utm_medium=EDNWeekly-20190103


5G buildout will be more involved than we've been led to believe

Brian Santo December 19, 2018

Excerpt:
From the moment that the wireless industry decided it would make use of higher frequencies for 5G transmission, everyone has known spectrum would have some ramifications for those deployment plans. One issue, it turns out, will probably not be that big of a deal, the other somewhat more consequential, but neither is addressed very often. Both derive from what's commonly known: the higher the frequency of a wireless signal, the less well it propagates and the less able it is to penetrate obstacles.

So as a practical matter:
   1   In contrast to deploying 3G and 4G, deploying 5G will require distinct indoor and outdoor strategies.
   2   5G base stations will have to be spaced more closely, necessitating more of them, especially in densely populated areas.
SNIP
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Dangers of 5G should also cover myths created by Internet Marketers – Info for the top 20 most concerned countries (https://www.smombiegate.org/dangers-of-5g-debunking-myths-created-by-internet-marketers/)

UK, USA, Europe, EU, Australia, Canada, Netherlands, Ireland, India, Spain, New Zealand, South Africa, Czechia, Denmark, France, Norway, Sweden, Italy, Romania, Slovakia, Belgium.

The dangers of 5G are not limited to the technology, it also comes in the form of businesses trying to profit from click bait articles hacked together by people who don't understand what 5g actually is.

Smombie Gate has debunked one of the top 5G articles by Eluxe and redressed misunderstandings and myths contained in many alternative health and conspiracy websites all jumping on the bandwagon to try to get a piece of the 5G search engine pie...
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 05, 2019, 08:29:20 PM
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The 5G Network: What You Don't Know May Kill You (https://www.thefoghornexpress.com/single-post/The-5G-Network-What-You-Dont-Know-Can-Kill-You)

April 3, 2017
Reinette Senum

How would you feel if you knew that an untested technology is being deployed across America with no government oversight, no transparency, no public input, no regulations, and no long-term studies on health and environmental impacts?

How would you feel if you knew sensors are rolling out to be installed in everything, from clothing, appliances, building materials, automobiles, cosmetics, toys, computers, furniture, etc, turning our world into the Internet of Things, as a component of this untested technology?
...

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Our health is at risk while our state reps are allowing these corporate perpetrators to continue their deployment of technologies while most Americans have no idea what is about to be hoisted upon our biosphere.
 
We have to understand that the higher the G rating, as in 1G, 2G, 3G, etc., the more toxic this technology is. We are now entering uncharted territory known as 5G. Microwave and EMF exposure at the 4G level have already decreased America's overall health.
 
Under the current 5G plan every square inch of America will be bathed and covered in penetrating and irradiating microwaves like never before.

It will be impossible to escape this. Impossible.

Even more alarming is the 1996 Telecommunications Act (https://www.fcc.gov/general/telecommunications-act-1996) that bans any local government from making a decision based upon negative health impacts from the wireless industry.


5G Dangers (https://es-ireland.com/5g-5th-generation-greater-dangers/)

(updated 29/4/2019)

In the past few weeks, councils and decision makers in the following regions have called for a moratorium on the 5G roll-out due to health effects –  Brussels, Rome, Florence and Swiss Cantons of Vaud and Geneva. Plus actions taken by some US City local governments to slow the deployment of 4G/5G antennae.

See Also : Takebackyourpower.net – 5G The Dominoes are Starting to Fall (https://takebackyourpower.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/5-Quick-Ways-to-Reduce-EMF-Exposure-and-Boost-Your-Vitality.pdf)

"The 5G Rollout is Absolutely Insane"  Dr Martin Pall

"5G Cannot Be Assumed Safe. We can no longer assume that any current or future technology, including 5G, is safe without adequate testing – because to do otherwise, is UNETHICAL." Ronald Melnick Ph.D

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5G technology is being rolled out across the world without any pre-testing for short or long-term health effects. Despite evidence that existing wireless technology causes adverse health effects, our governments and decision makers are sanctioning what scientists and experts warn will be a serious health crisis.  The 5G network will involve the installation of millions of antennae, as well as thousands of transmitting satellites in spac
...
5G technology, like the 2G, 3G, 4G telecommunications systems, has not had pre-market testing for short or long-term health effects despite the fact that people will be exposed continuously to this further radiation. The addition of these 5G radiation frequencies to an already complex mix of wireless frequencies, will contribute to a negative public health outcome from both physical and mental health perspectives...

See Here for 55 Published Literatures on 5G High Frequency, Gigahertz RF (millimeter wave) https://mdsafetech.org/5g-telecommunications-science/

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https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/about

About This International Appeal

The signatories to this Appeal are scientists, doctors and environmental organizations from every continent who have been working tirelessly for many years to call the world's attention to an invisible assault on our biosphere. That assault can be ignored no longer.

5G—the 5th generation of wireless technology—must not be built on Earth or in Space. The notion that radio frequency radiation, commonly known as radio waves, is somehow not real radiation and is harmless, was disproven by the 1970s in laboratories all over the world, and the harm to humans, animals and plants has since been confirmed in over 10,000 peer-reviewed studies. If 5G is built, radiation levels will increase 10- to 100-fold, virtually overnight, everywhere. There will literally be no place on Earth to hide from it.

The effects of levels of radio frequency radiation already existing now on the health of the population and the environment, as reflected in quality of life; high rates of cancer, neurological disease, heart disease and diabetes, even in children; plummeting populations of birds, bees and butterflies; and unhealthy forests, can be seen and felt everywhere.

We urge governments and the public to read the Appeal carefully, and to act accordingly.

Arthur Firstenberg,
Appeal Administrator
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
September 17, 2018

For Arthur Firstenberg's CV, go to www.cellphonetaskforce.org

Risks from 5G include:
   ▪   Damage to the eyes – cataracts, retinal damage
   ▪   Severe sweating
   ▪   Skin damage
   ▪   Immune system disruption
   ▪   Metabolic disruption
   ▪   Neurological disturbance
   ▪   Leakage of blood brain barrier
   ▪   Damage to sperm
   ▪   Increased risk of cancers
   ▪   Depression and suicide
   ▪   Collapse of insect populations, the base of food for birds and bats
   ▪   Rise in bacterial resistance and bacterial shifts
   ▪   Damage to plants and trees

Here is what some experts are saying about 5G:

"The new 5G wireless technology involves millimeter waves (extremely high frequencies) producing photons of much greater energy than even 4G and WiFi. Allowing this technology to be used without proving its safety is reckless in the extreme, as the millimeter waves are known to have a profound effect on all parts of the human body."
–Prof. Trevor Marshall, Director Autoimmunity Research Foundation, California

"The plans to beam highly penetrative 5G milliwave radiation at us from space must surely be one of the greatest follies ever conceived of by mankind. There will be nowhere safe to live."
–Olga Sheean former WHO employee and author of 'No Safe Place'

"It would irradiate everyone, including the most vulnerable to harm from radiofrequency radiation: pregnant women, unborn children, young children, teenagers, men of reproductive age, the elderly, the disabled, and the chronically ill."
—Ronald Powell, PhD, Letter to FCC on 5G expansion

"Along with the 5G there is another thing coming – Internet of Things. If you look at it combined the radiation level is going to increase tremendously and yet the industry is very excited about it.... they project 5G/IoT business to be a $7 trillion business."
-Prof. Girish Kumar, Professor at Electrical Engineering Department at IIT Bombay

"However, no matter what the future research will show, the 5G technology will be by then fully deployed and without any possibility of reverse because the whole future life of the humanity will be based and dependent on the functioning of the 5G radiation-emitting devices.

This is a unique situation in the history of the human kind when the whole human population will be exposed to man-made devices emitting non-ionizing radiation that was insufficiently tested before deployment.

What is and what will be the responsibility of the scientists, decision-makers and industry leaders who permit deployment of insufficiently tested technology that will affect us all? The answer is simple – no responsibility... because if any health problems will show up in the future, these will most likely take tens of years of time to manifest and, by then the persons that currently enable deployment of insufficiently tested radiation-emitting 5G technology will be retired or the proverbial "six feet under".
Dariusz Leszczynski, PhD, DSc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_f9gpg4t6c

5G Wireless: A Dangerous 'Experiment on Humanity'

RT America
Published on Jan 14, 2019

Scientists, environmental groups, doctors and citizens around the world are appealing to all governments to halt telecommunications companies' deployment of 5G (fifth generation) wireless networks, which they call "an experiment on humanity and the environment that is defined as a crime under international law." Research has shown that wireless radiation can cause DNA damage, neuropsychiatric effects and other health problems. RT America's Michele Greenstein joins Rick Sanchez to discuss.

MORE INFORMATION on 5G DANGERS:
What you need to know about 5G Wireless and Microcells
https://ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/5G_What-You-Need-to-Know_International-2.pdf

Scientist & Doctors call for Moratorium on 5G Roll-out
http://www.5gappeal.eu/

Small Cells, Mini Cell Towers, Wireless Facilities And Health: Letters From Scientists On The Health Risk Of 5G
https://ehtrust.org/small-cells-mini-cell-towers-health-letters-scientists-health-risk-5g/

5G And The IOT: Scientific Overview Of Human Health Risks
https://ehtrust.org/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks

What you don't know about 5G but will find out when its too late
https://truepublica.org.uk/global/what-you-dont-know-about-5g-but-will-find-out-when-its-too-late/
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 06, 2019, 04:09:58 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=CK0AliMe-KA

Dr. Sharon Goldberg Testifies at Michigan's 5G Small Cell Tower Legislation Hearing
October 4, 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwyDCHf5iCY

The truth about mobile phone and wireless radiation" -- Dr Devra Davis


And here's what 'the industry' would have you believe... :P

How 5G will change your smartphone, and your life in 2019 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC_Sfkh5-zQ)

Published on Dec 26, 2018
Digital Trends

Imagine playing a co-op shooter like Fortnite Battle Royale or PUB-G on a VR headset... in real-time, with zero lag... all through your phone, while traveling in a fleet of self-driving cars going 200 miles an hour. Sit tight, because the future of gaming, and everything else, is about to change forever.

If you look up in the corner of your phone, you're probably used to seeing a little indicator that says 4G LTE or, 3G, or... god forbid, 2G – and you've come to recognize that it probably has something to do with your phone's connection to your mobile network. The higher the G, the faster the connection. It's pretty easy to follow, the G stands for generation, and each subsequent generation refers to a specific minimum speed, connectivity, and reliability necessary to classify the network as that particular generation. 1G let us talk to each other, 2G let us send messages, 3G gave us broad data and internet, and 4G/LTE made it a whole lot faster.

But all that is in the soon to be past, because up on the horizon is 5G. And while you may be thinking that 5G is just a little faster, a little more reliable, and a little newer – it's actually a massive breakthrough that's going to change the way devices connect to the internet, and more importantly, to each other. In fact, as 5G rolls out over the next two years, it's going to change... well, everything with a wireless connection. Which, at this point is ...well, pretty much everything. So, what's so special about a 5G future?

First of all, it's fast. Like, really fast. Like, 20 gigabits per second over wireless fast. Like 100 - 250 times faster than 4G. By comparison, 4G provides speeds, on average, of about 10 - 20 megabits a second. So that's going from streaming one Netflix movie in HD, to streaming 400 movies in 8k at the same time.

But that's not really the most impressive part... what sets 5G aside is its crazy low latency rate, which is the amount of delay between the sending and receiving of information. Now, 4G tends to average about 100-200 milliseconds. To be fair, 100 milliseconds is FAST; human reaction time is about 200-300 milliseconds. But 5G... will get it down to 1 millisecond. Or less. That's almost real-time. And being able to send and receive information in what is essentially real-time, means that we can use 5G... to replace real-time interactions.

That might be one of the biggest breakthroughs in 5G: a network of self driving cars – all sending data between each other, and communicating with traffic lights, road sensors, aerial drones, and so on. Think about it, human reaction speed is 200 milliseconds, and we still have accidents every day. Imagine if your car could react, and communicate its reaction to hundreds of cars around it, all within a millisecond. Not only could we end car accidents, hell, we could end traffic altogether. Hundreds of self-driving cars, going lightning fast to your destination, with no risk that they'll hit each other, because they all know exactly where they are in real-time, reacting to the actual world around them. Autonomous or remotely controlled trains, delivery trucks, even airplanes could be on the horizon in the near future.

In fact, forget cars for a second, and think of all robotic devices. Surgeries could be performed, from the other side of the world, with robot surgeons controlled in real-time by expert surgeons, being assisted by other expert surgeons simultaneously; saving lives in situations where time and distance are the difference between life and death. Factories can be staffed by robots that can communicate their task and position to each other, allowing them to not only do more, but do it more efficiently, and wirelessly over a 5G network. Imagine a fleet of drones flying over a field of crops, using sensors on the ground, to sort, pick, feed, and water individual plants – all on their own.

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However, 5G is a weapons system
masquerading as a modern efficiency technology.


Quote"I think anybody that puts WiFi in a school
should be locked up for the rest of their life."

BARRIE TROWER Royal Navy microwave weapons expert

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIXFtYgAfY

Dr. Barrie Trower Expert On the Dangers Of Wifi, Microwaves, Cell Towers etc.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 06, 2019, 06:35:44 AM
The 5G Bait-and-Switch Continues (http://scientists4wiredtech.com/2019/03/the-5g-bait-and-switch-continues/)

Adapted from an article by Bruce Kushnick,
Mar 25, 2019 | Original Medium article here.

Kushnick's Law:
"A regulated company will always renege on promises to provide public benefits tomorrow in exchange for regulatory and financial benefits today."

Why do we have the "Race to 5G"?
Because 5 comes after 4 . . . this is more a label for perceived progress than actual, tangible consumer benefit. Market watchers and consumers know that the "Smart Phone" has run its course. It has reached market saturation and consumers are settling into a more sane upgrade pattern — keeping their phones for three year or longer. Smart Phones, since about 2015 or so have, on the whole, have been more capable than consumers need or want. That explains why Smart Phone unit sales in the US have flattened or dropped for multiple years.

The same can be said for the Wireless networks. We have reached market saturation. Where there is 4G Wireless service, people are satisfied with their service. Where there is no 4G service (the rural and lower income areas) people are not. Will 5G address the need to for upgraded service in these underserved and unserved areas? Not likely because the business case for private wireless companies is not lucrative enough. It is more lucrative for them to force another unnecessary upgrade on the densely populated urban and suburban areas in an effort to convince people to upgrade, once again.

5G wireless, therefore is just another bait-and-switch campaign to secure more regulatory and financial benefits for AT&T and Verizon so they can maximize their future profits. 5G is merely a label for "what comes next" — lots of hype and promises for the future that history shows will mostly not materialize.

The game plan: AT&T and Verizon can just promise a new shiny bauble (the Internet of Things) make more money and get rid of all regulations. That is what this is all about.

   •   Any real consumer benefit? Mostly from "meh" to downright indifference.
      
   •   Any fix for the growing Digital Divide? Sorry. Not profitable enough.

So far, it's been mostly hype and every one of those state "Small Cell" deployment laws, passed in only 21 of our 50 states, is forcing the installation of 4G cell towers on utility and light poles in front of people's homes with the "promise" that 5G will be coming "real soon".

Waiting for . . .?
On December 8, 2015, I quoted a Fierce Wireless interview of former Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam, where Verizon claimed it would deliver speeds of 1Gbps with a commercial launch in 2017.

"Verizon's McAdam: 5G speeds will be up to 1 Gbps and will be live at Verizon HQ in January (2016). Verizon's 5G service to go commercial in 2017 and beyond."

That never happened, except for controlled test locations. Now, Verizon is claiming it will have 5G in 30 cities by year end...
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 07, 2019, 04:00:31 AM
Not really difficult to see who the industry hacks are.... :P

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Which is more dangerous to health : Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G or 5G? (https://teknologya.com/which-is-more-dangerous-to-health-wi-fi-3g-4g-or-5g/)

By ANKIT
7th March 2019

Which radiation is more harmful to health, those emitted by 3/4/5G mobile networks, Bluetooth devices or a Wi-Fi router? Here is the truth.

Today, we are surrounded by devices that emit electromagnetic waves: smartphones, TVs, Wi-Fi routers, Bluetooth headsets and so on. Anything that uses a network, be it WLAN, 3G or LTE/4G, is "potentially dangerous" for health ... But is it really like that? And above all, which of these radio frequencies that we use every day can expose us to greater risks? We make clarity.

Smartphone radiation: which waves do more harm?
Today there are 3 transmission standards for mobile: GSM (2G), UMTS (3G) and LTE (4G), which differ substantially in speed, which increases as the generation increases.

The frequencies used are the following:
   •   2G – between 900 and 1,800 MHz
   •   3G – between 1900 and 2,170 MHz
   •   LTE/4G – between 800 and 2600 MHz
   •   
No technology of those cited causes harmful radiation as it is non-ionizing electromagnetic waves, that is, they do not ionize the medium through which they pass and do not alter the molecules.

The only effect on the human body is heating, but exposure levels are so low that they can not be considered risky.

It should also be remembered that radio-frequency devices, in order to be placed on the market, must comply with maximum exposure levels so as not to incur proven health risks. These requirements are: 8 Watts/kg for the body and 2 Watts/kg for body parts such as the head.

[tfw note: These morons conveniently leave out that those tests done on 'the head' are referring to Phantom Head One - modeled after a military man's adult head.]  :P

Wifi
The Wi-Fi devices we find on the market take advantage of the 2.4 and 5 GHz frequency bands to exchange data and information packets. The factor at stake, if we talk about health dangers, could at most be the power, but we consider that the signal emitted by a Wi-Fi router is about 100 milliwatt and that even at normal operating distances the signal strength is so low not to be a cause for concern.

Bluetooth
Now the technology goes to the wireless direction and more and more accessories and wireless devices (think of Apple's AirPods ), but the brands have every interest to lower as much as possible the power of emissions so as to preserve battery consumption.

As for Bluetooth devices, the power used is too low and the minimum energy impact "to be able to damage any biological tissue with the mechanisms known to us at present. If it were risky for health it should be in ways that no one has ever imagined", said John Moulder, a radiation expert biologist at the University of Wisconsin. Bluetooth uses a frequency of waves very similar to that of Wi-Fi, but we can consider it more a "Wi-Fi light" and therefore even more harmless.

Egad! You just can't make this stuff up!  :P

The bluetooth devices sold by Apple have an output of 10-18 milliwatts, and less than 1% of this energy comes in the form of electromagnetic radiation, a more than insignificant amount compared to that which is exposed by supporting the smartphone to the ear.

Even a recent research by the International Agency for Cancer Research has concluded that the more a device is far from one's head the less harmful it is, but there is no definitive study in this regard and the results often come to antithetical conclusions.

And the 5G?
The 5G will use the maximum frequency spectrum possible and never used so far, ie radio waves between 30 and 300 GHz. The alarms about the risks to human health are not lacking, but despite several pseudoscientific studies, there is currently no real evidence on the harmfulness of 5G. Even in the case of 5G, in fact, the frequencies have a very low intensity to have ionizing effects on biological tissues. The waves used by the 5G have more difficulty penetrating through the air and the walls, and this therefore also applies to organic tissues.

Gotta love their closing statement.

All the arguments about the danger of the 5G are not scientific and can therefore be relegated in the field of hoaxes.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: WhatTheHey on May 07, 2019, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 07, 2019, 04:00:31 AM
The waves used by the 5G have more difficulty penetrating through the air and the walls, and this therefore also applies to organic tissues.

     The quote above truly gives us the very reason why 5G should be considered dangerous.   The fact that trees, buildings and biologic entities block 5G signals is proof

that this 5G frequency is absorbed by said objects!   And that is exactly what makes it dangerous.   This indicates that indeed a great deal of the signals energy is
 
absorbed by the bodies of humans and any other animals and things in range.   This is a more disruptive and harmful event then passing through and object. 

The disruption to cells can be far greater when the energy/signal bombarding is absorbed.

I don't know about you, but I would rather it pass through then be absorbed by my tissues.

    Oh well its just a thought.......Have a great day! :)




Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 07, 2019, 08:54:43 PM
Quote from: WhatTheHey on May 07, 2019, 05:07:25 PM
     The quote above truly gives us the very reason why 5G should be considered dangerous.   The fact that trees, buildings and biologic entities block 5G signals is proof that this 5G frequency is absorbed by said objects!   And that is exactly what makes it dangerous.
Absorbed or reflected? Some of those frequencies are used in police radars.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: WhatTheHey on May 08, 2019, 12:15:33 AM

   Here's a quote from Nexusnewsfeed.com:
  "Millimeter waves (MMWs) do not travel well through buildings and they tend to be absorbed by rain and plants. This interferes with the signal. Added to this, high frequency waves like MMWs also have much shorter wavelengths that can't travel far."
   As you can see this frequency is basically absorbed readily by anything with liquid water in its make up.  So the more water, the more easily the signal is absorbed.  Since we are mostly water, this will affect us easily.
    If it was reflected by objects and not absorbed it would still be radiant and just take a new direction with probably a small reduction in signal strength and not be truly blocked.  Another issue with millimeter wave length is the range.  They do not travel very far, so they will need many more towers to achieve coverage. 
   Although I believe this is pointed this out in previous posts above, this particular range of frequency is use in military sonic weapons (at higher power and concentration  for acute reaction) because of its ability to penetrate the tissues of the body and brain causing a variety of symptoms both mental and physical.   
   Look at the posts and links above and there is more about this.

    Have a good one! ;D
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 08, 2019, 03:07:22 AM
Who-da thunk?
This is refreshing...


Quote
DAWN STOKES
Dec 4, 2018 at 2:37 am

Disclosure: Mind Commerce (https://mindcommerce.com/) is a market research company and we publish reports about 5G. For more info, see: https://mindcommerce.com/report-tag/5g/

We are not healthcare professionals, scientific researchers, or experts in electromagnetic energy.

Would like to start by stating that in addition to many, MANY more antennas (practically everywhere, but mostly within a metro area), there will also be a need for 5G Smart Antennas (more info here: https://mindcommerce.com/reports/5g-smart-antenna-market/).

There is no point in sugar-coating it. 5G is like a runaway train, so it's going to happen.

Perhaps like many of you, we are not aware of any substantive, independent testing about the health effects it may cause. We believe there has been some testing regarding high energy millimeter wave (mmWave) radio frequency (RF) propagation, which doesn't look good for living things. However, 5G New Radio (NR) uses low energy RF. The problem may be (if there is any problem) long term exposure to 5GNR.

Again, we are in the business of telling people about the merits of 5G, so don't take this as hypocritical. We don't know any more about the potential ill health effects than anyone else in lieu of testing. Sadly, it would likely have to be long-term testing to be conclusive.

One guideline to consider, even more so with 5G than ever before, would be to limit the exposure of directed energy towards you head and vital organs. In other words, use a headset, which is a good hands-free safety idea anyway. This is just using good judgement regarding any wireless technology.

As a side note, we see most of the applications and services being data-oriented with 5G. However, Voice over 5G (Vo5G) will be integrated with many next generation apps such as Virtual Reality (VR). The distinction is that the user interface (UI) will likely be wearable technology (e.g. a VR headset) and the 5GNR signal will be beamed to a smartphone (or some other device) and then relayed to the UI via some other wireless signal, most likely WiFi.

We have written extensively about how we see 5G being used (such as Vo5G: https://mindcommerce.com/reports/vo5g-market/), but like others in the information and communications technology industry, admittedly know very little about the potential health concerns of 5G.

Let us know if you have any questions, comments, or concerns at:
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Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 08, 2019, 02:01:15 PM
Quote from: WhatTheHey on May 08, 2019, 12:15:33 AM
   As you can see this frequency is basically absorbed readily by anything with liquid water in its make up.  So the more water, the more easily the signal is absorbed.  Since we are mostly water, this will affect us easily.
    If it was reflected by objects and not absorbed it would still be radiant and just take a new direction with probably a small reduction in signal strength and not be truly blocked.
Besides police radars, as I said before, I found out that those frequencies are also used on full body scanners, and they work by analysing the wave reflected by the body.

I know some people don't like Wikipedia, but I think it's a better source than nexusnewsfeed.

QuoteIn active scanners, the millimetre wave is transmitted from two antennas simultaneously as they rotate around the body. The wave energy reflected back from the body or other objects on the body is used to construct a three-dimensional image, which is displayed on a remote monitor for analysis.
Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millimeter_wave_scanner#Technical_details)

QuoteDue to the shallow penetration depth of millimetre waves into tissue (typically less than 1 mm),[13] acute biological effects of irradiation are localized in epidermal and dermal layers and manifest primarily as thermal effects.
Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millimeter_wave_scanner#Possible_health_effects)

QuoteAlthough I believe this is pointed this out in previous posts above, this particular range of frequency is use in military sonic weapons (at higher power and concentration  for acute reaction) because of its ability to penetrate the tissues of the body and brain causing a variety of symptoms both mental and physical.
How can a radio frequency be used on sonic equipment? We can only ear frequencies below 20 KHz (for an average young adult) and we do not ear electromagnetic radiation.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: WhatTheHey on May 08, 2019, 07:41:46 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 08, 2019, 02:01:15 PM
How can a radio frequency be used on sonic equipment? We can only ear frequencies below 20 KHz (for an average young adult) and we do not ear electromagnetic radiation.

    Sorry, I was looking at military energy weapons and my mind was still on the sonic while I did that post and I didn't catch my slip.  I should have said millimeter wave or short wave energy.    There is a lot of good info in the above post from Thor you should read.

   Yes most all these devises use mmw.   Devises of different types use varying levels of intensity that cause different things to happen per applied level.  "(note, however, that energy and intensity are not the same thing!)."  That quote is from ( https://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/askaphysicist/physics-answer.cfm?uid=20110119110703 ).  Many machines used to do these tasks work in the short wave range, but differ in intensity.  I hope this helps you understand.   Even X-Ray scanners are a short wave with higher intensity.  I use science based sites for most of my info and even then you must be watchful.
   Here's something to help, it shows how low intensity is what makes the difference in a tissue penetrating medical use.  Same range of short wave but low intensity.    http://alexoratech.com/devices/millimeter-wave/  .

  A variety of MMW frequencies and intensities are in use for a good number of applications. ("The millimeter-wave region of the electromagnetic spectrum is usually considered to be the range of wavelengths from 10 millimeters (0.4 inches) to 1 millimeter (0.04 inches). This means millimeter waves are longer than infrared waves or x-rays, for example, but shorter than radio waves or microwaves. The millimeter-wave region of the electromagnetic spectrum corresponds to radio band frequencies of 30 GHz to 300 GHz and is sometimes called the Extremely High Frequency (EHF) range. The high frequency of millimeters waves as well as their propagation characteristics (that is, the ways they change or interact with the atmosphere as they travel) make them useful for a variety of applications including transmitting large amounts of computer data, cellular communications, and radar.") Quote from https://ethw.org/Millimeter_Waves .
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 08, 2019, 10:53:20 PM
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Forecasters may no longer be able to warn of storms such as 2018's 'beast from the east',
which dumped heavy snow on cities including Newcastle.
Photograph: Owen Humphreys/PA

5G signal could jam satellites that help with weather forecasting (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/04/5g-mobile-networks-threat-to-world-weather-forecasting)

New mobile system to be launched this year 'will put lives at risk'

Robin McKie
Sat 4 May 2019 09.59 EDT
      
The introduction of 5G mobile phone networks could seriously affect weather forecasters' ability to predict major storms.

That is the stark warning of meteorologists around the world, who say the next-generation wireless system now being rolled out across the globe is likely to disrupt the delicate satellite instruments they use to monitor changes in the atmosphere.

The result will be impaired forecasts, poorer warnings about major storms, and loss of life, they say.

"The way 5G is being introduced could seriously compromise our ability to forecast major storms," said Tony McNally of the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts in Reading. "In the end it could make the difference between life and death. We are very concerned about this."

The crisis facing the world's meteorologists stems from the fact that the radio frequencies the new 5G networks will use could contaminate critical Earth observations made by weather satellites.

Instruments on board the satellites peer down into the atmosphere and study variables such as water vapour, rain, snow, cloud cover and ice content – all crucial factors that influence our weather.

One example is the 23.8 gigahertz (GHz) frequency. Water vapour emits a faint signal at this specific natural wavelength, and this data is monitored and measured by weather satellites. Forecasters then use this information to work out how a storm or weather system is likely to develop.

"Such data is critical to our ability to make forecasts," said Niels Bormann, also of the Reading weather centre. "They are a unique natural resource, and if we lose this capability, weather forecasts will get significantly worse."

The problem is that some 5G phone networks may transmit near a frequency similar to that emitted by water vapour, and so would produce a signal that looks very like its presence in the atmosphere.

"We would not be able to tell the difference and so would have to discard that data," added Bormann. "That would compromise our ability to make accurate forecasts."

The urgency of the problem is underlined by the fact that US Federal Communications Commission and similar agencies in other countries have already started to auction off frequencies close to the 23.8 GHz frequency to future 5G network providers. In addition, other bands that are used to probe our weather include the 36-37 GHz band, which is used to study rain and snow; the 50 GHz band, which is used to measure atmospheric temperature; and the 86-92 Ghz band, which helps to analyse cloud and ice.

All these contain sections of waveband that are being auctioned off in the US. It remains to be seen if other nations will follow suit and sell these frequencies in their own countries over coming months. The issue is set to be debated at a global conference in Egypt later this year.

Forecasters say the US move has already compromised their ability to collect data, and promise to lobby other nations to limit use of crucial frequencies to preserve their ability to provide accurate forecasts. They accuse phone operators of ransacking the radio spectrum for wavelengths to exploit, and regulators of failing to protect the natural frequencies vital for Earth observation from space. "The more we lose, the greater the impact will be," states meteorologist Jordan Gerth, of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, in the current issue of Nature. "This is a global problem."

[From "Comments" on this story.]

QuoteDan H.

I have my degree in computer robotics, and have a full understanding what 5G is, and how dangerous it is.

Here is a simple explanation, and I hope people will read it all.

Most people have a Microwave in their kitchen, the home microwave uses high frequency radio wave energy to heat food by exciting the water molecules. The standard cell phone also uses microwave energy to communicate with cell towers. 4G is low power microwave energy & has a greater range of contact with towers. 5G is high power Nano wave energy, and has less range of contact with towers. 5G needs more, and closer towers to work effectively. If it takes your common microwave oven kitchen five minutes to cook something, it would take a nano wave oven less than 30 seconds to cook the same food.

If you stand in front of an open microwave oven for 30 seconds you WILL suffer severe tissue damage. Being close to a 5G transmitter is like standing in front of an open microwave oven for ten minutes or more. Demand the FCC and Cell companies stop this deadly technology.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 09, 2019, 12:37:37 AM
I've had a DLINK router pushing 5G WI-FI by me at my desk for over 2+ years. I've yet to be microwaved it seems...what am I doing wrong?  :P
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 09, 2019, 12:45:27 AM
Thanks for that information but it only supports what I said before, that millimetre waves are reflected by the body, not absorbed. It also confirms that intensity of the signal is what matters most (obviously), so an emitter working at the same frequency but a lower intensity has a much weaker effect than another one with the same frequency but higher intensity.

In case of the frequencies used on 5G, the highest it 86 GHz, well below the upper 300 GHz limit of millimetre waves. Also, being a lower frequency it's a lower energy radiation.

X-Ray is a short wave radiation but with a higher frequency and energy than the frequencies used by 5G.

The direct energy crowd control systems use a slightly higher frequency (96 GHz) but a much stronger intensity, but even then they only affect the upper 1/64 of an inch of skin, as they do not have enough energy to penetrate the body.

QuoteQ9. Does this system work like a microwave oven?
A9.  No. The ADS, a non-lethal directed-energy weapon, projects a very short duration (on the order of a few seconds) focused beam of millimeter waves at a frequency of 95 gigahertz (GHz). A microwave oven operates at 2.45 GHz. At the much higher frequency of 95 GHz, the associated directed energy wavelength is very short and only physically capable of reaching a skin depth of about 1/64 of an inch. A microwave oven operating at 2.45 GHz has a much longer associated wave length, on the order of several inches, which allows for greater penetration of material and efficiency in heating food. The ADS provides a quick and reversible skin surface heating sensation that does not penetrate into the target.
(Source (https://jnlwp.defense.gov/About/Frequently-Asked-Questions/Active-Denial-System-FAQs/))
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: WhatTheHey on May 09, 2019, 05:39:55 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 09, 2019, 12:45:27 AM
Thanks for that information but it only supports what I said before, that millimetre waves are reflected by the body, not absorbed. It also confirms that intensity of the signal is what matters most (obviously), so an emitter working at the same frequency but a lower intensity has a much weaker effect than another one with the same frequency but higher intensity.

In case of the frequencies used on 5G, the highest it 86 GHz, well below the upper 300 GHz limit of millimetre waves. Also, being a lower frequency it's a lower energy radiation.

X-Ray is a short wave radiation but with a higher frequency and energy than the frequencies used by 5G.

The direct energy crowd control systems use a slightly higher frequency (96 GHz) but a much stronger intensity, but even then they only affect the upper 1/64 of an inch of skin, as they do not have enough energy to penetrate the body.
(Source (https://www.rfsafe.com/5g-network-uses-nearly-same-frequency-as-weaponized-crowd-control-systems/))

    Well thanks for the agreement that it is indeed intensity that causes change in affect.  I'm glad you know what the affects are from long term exposure to as you put it "weaker effect" when no one else seems too.  According to the data its still under study.  And that is what is not cool about this whole 5G thing.  Not enough is known about the long term exposure to these fields.  Not to mention there is an issue with proximity do to the fact that a cell-tower is slightly larger then the hand held scanners and backscanners you talk about.  Like you said your self "The direct energy crowd control systems use a slightly higher frequency" and that has an acute reaction in seconds.  But I'm glad you think you know!  Maybe you should live right next to one and be an experiment.  Of course there are people winning suits against Co.s using towers already, as the towers and tech are now.   
                               http://emfsafetynetwork.org/jury-awards-vermont-couple-1million-in-cell-tower-lawsuit/

So it seems we will see what happens in time.

   Have a wonderful day!   ;)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 09, 2019, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: WhatTheHey on May 09, 2019, 05:39:55 PM
According to the data its still under study.  And that is what is not cool about this whole 5G thing.  Not enough is known about the long term exposure to these fields.
I agree completely, there aren't (apparently) enough studies for this new use of those frequencies, but that's no reason to present them as being as dangerous as most sites against it appear to do.

QuoteLike you said your self "The direct energy crowd control systems use a slightly higher frequency" and that has an acute reaction in seconds.
Besides using the wrong URL for the source I forgot to point on my previous post that that higher frequency means higher energy for the same intensity (I was almost asleep when I wrote that). Also, those crowd control systems waves have a power of 30 kw, much higher than any cell phone tower (I think the maximum allowed is 500 w, while a phone has a power of 1 or 2 w), resulting in a much higher energy emitted and much stronger effects.

QuoteBut I'm glad you think you know!
I think I know what? I don't remember saying anything like that. ???

QuoteMaybe you should live right next to one and be an experiment.  Of course there are people winning suits against Co.s using towers already, as the towers and tech are now.   
                               http://emfsafetynetwork.org/jury-awards-vermont-couple-1million-in-cell-tower-lawsuit/
First of all I don't have any trust on the US justice system, so any court decision in the US means nothing to me, and that case was not just about possible health effects of the cell tower, it was about the couple having to move from their home because of being frightened for the security of their children during the construction, frightened for the health from the radio tower (I couldn't find any place that said what kind of frequencies were to be used on that tower) and because the company had full access to their property whenever they wanted.

QuoteSo it seems we will see what happens in time.
I'm sure we will, unless it makes us blind. ;)

QuoteHave a wonderful day!   ;)
The same to you. :)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2019, 04:17:47 AM
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Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 08, 2019, 08:10:53 PM
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Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 20, 2019, 09:29:43 PM
Smartphone with highest radiation: Here are most dangerous phones (https://teknologya.com/smartphone-with-most-radiation-here-are-most-dangerous-phoness/)

By Tarun Bhardwaj - 7th March 2019

In the ranking of the smartphones that emit more radiation we find different models of the iPhone but above all the Chinese devices.

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Punctual like a Swiss watch, the smartphone-radiation topic is back in vogue.

Nowadays, in fact, we are more and more smartphone- dependent: our phone is at our fingertips 24 hours a day, in our pocket while we go to work or on the bedside table when we go to sleep. This is now the normality. But what we keep asking ourselves is whether the radiation emitted by smartphones is really harmful to our health and which models are more or less safe.

At the moment research has not produced concrete and univocal results: we still do not know how much and if the radiations emitted by smartphones are actually harmful. You may also be interested in Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, 5G: dangerous radiation, yes or no? We make clarity.

From the list, however, emerged a fact: Chinese devices appear in greater quantities among smartphones that emit higher levels of radiation, followed by the iPhone.

The Statist website has compiled and published the list of smartphone models that emit more radiation (which you find below) on the basis of data collected by the German Federal Office for Radiation Protection (Bundesamt für Strahlenschutz). The institution has in fact a complete and updated database of mobile devices, new and old, and the level of radiation they emit, both in standby and when you place them on the ear to call.

Smartphones that emit more radiation: the ranking:

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According to the list above, the most dangerous radiation-level phones are the Chinese. In fact, the Xiaomi Mi A1 is in the first place, followed by OnePlus 5T. In fact, the two companies are widely represented in this ranking, with as many as 8 models among the top 16 most risky smartphones.

In any case, we also find the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8, respectively in the 9th and 14th place, as well as the Google Pixels, HTC and Sony.

Although there is no universal guideline for a "safe" level of phone radiation, German ecology certification Der Blaue Engel (Blue Angel) certifies only phones that have a specific absorption rate of less than 0.60 watts per kilogram. All the phones present here are more than double this benchmark.

Smartphone and radiation: where is Huawei?
In today's ranking we note the absence of Huawei: in the list does not appear even a smartphone model of the Chinese company. The data amazes if we consider that in the 2018 ranking Huawei smartphones were present and also in large numbers.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/The-phones-emmiting-the-most-radiation-2018.png)

At the top of the list there were still Xiaomi Mi A1 and OnePlus 5T, followed by Huawei starting from Mate 9 up to the P9 Lite.

There were six Huawei smartphones on the list and, in general, the devices to emit more radiation are all of Chinese manufacturers except for the fourth position where we find Nokia.

It should also be noted that the second-ranked attendance level was Apple: there were in fact three iPhone on the list that, despite occupying lower positions, still remained among the smartphones to emit the highest number of radiation.

Instead, the absence of Samsung is surprising: the South Korean house had accumulated many accusations over its devices over the years. In any case, even if it is not yet clear what the damage that radiation can cause to our health, it is always good to try to avoid keeping your mobile device too close to head, heart and private parts.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on June 21, 2019, 01:00:28 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 20, 2019, 09:29:43 PM
Although there is no universal guideline for a "safe" level of phone radiation, German ecology certification Der Blaue Engel (Blue Angel) certifies only phones that have a specific absorption rate of less than 0.60 watts per kilogram. All the phones present here are more than double this benchmark.
There's no universal guideline for a "safe" level of phone radiation but the recommendation is that it shouldn't be higher than 2.0 Watts per kilogram, so all the phones on those charts are below the "official" safe level.

For those interest, here (http://www.bfs.de/SiteGlobals/Forms/Suche/BfS/EN/SARsuche_Formular.html) is the full list, with 3,430 different models.

The one I am using has a value (close to the ear) of 1.39. Luckily, I rarely have to use it as a phone. :)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: space otter on June 21, 2019, 03:52:28 AM


i don't have a cell phone..
call me wierd but getting one made me think of it as having a leash around my neck that anyone could pull on at any time

a friend sent me this.. i think it fits here


Quotehttp://fortune.com/2019/06/20/horns-growing-human-skulls-cell-phones/

HEALTH CELL PHONES
Cell Phones Might Be Causing Horns to Grow on Young People's Skulls: Study
By CHRIS MORRIS Updated: June 20, 2019 4:47 PM ET

Well, this is terrifying.

Researchers at the University of the Sunshine Coast in Queensland, Australia have found evidence that our frequent use of mobile devices could be fundamentally altering our physiology. Specifically, they're seeing horn-like bone spurs appear on younger adults (the most frequent users of those devices).

The good news, if there is any here, is that you're not going to see a generation of kids looking like triceratops wannabes, with horns poking out of their foreheads. The bad news is, the spurs are growing at the back of the skull.

Here's what the researchers say is happening: Frequent users of mobile devices regularly tilt their heads forward to view them. That shifts the weight of the head from the spine to muscles in the back of the head, which causes bones to grow in the tendons and ligaments. That results in a horn-like spur that grows from the base of the skull.

(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2019%2F06%2Fhorn-skull.jpg&w=300&q=85)

Courtesy of Scientific Report
"Our findings raise a concern about the future musculoskeletal health of the young adult population and reinforce the need for prevention intervention through posture improvement education," the scientists noted in the report, which was originally published a year ago, but has come to more prominent attention recently.

The study looked at 1,200 X-rays taken in Queensland covering a wide variety of age ranges. One-third of those showed the bone spur, with the frequency decreasing with age. Larger spurs were much more prominent in younger people.

Cell phones have been criticized for their impact on human health before, but researchers say this is the first time the body has shown an adaptation to technology used in everyday life.

"An important question is what the future holds for the young adult populations in our study, when development of a degenerative process is evident in such an early stage of their lives?," they wrote.

Worried about the effect of phones on your own body? The study's lead author suggests you run your hand over the lower rear part of your skull, telling the Washington Post that if you've got a horn growing there, you can probably feel it.

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Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Irene on June 21, 2019, 04:04:59 AM
I'm sorry, I think this is hilarious. I already consider today's youth to be the spawn of Satan, so this is a promising development.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 21, 2019, 09:22:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3te60b-wCk

The Truth About 5G | FACTS, DANGERS and MYTHS EXPLAINED

Vtudio
Published on Apr 29, 2019

In this report we head to Australia's first 5G cell tower to study the real effects of 5G. Are the birds falling out from the sky? Is it running at real 5G speeds?

COMPANION VIDEOS
Is Huawei Spying: https://youtu.be/5cwG6t-FTYU
S9 Tech Reviews are Wrong: https://youtu.be/DW3k95C3098

WHY 5G
It'll speed up your internet by 100x, it'll allow you to perform surgery with a robot, it'll let thousands of drones fly through the sky. It'll allow clinics to show patient data.

While these use cases sound great and futuristic, for 5G, they're a bit dumb.

Showing a patient's medical data when they're at the clinic can already be done with WIFI.
Performing remote surgery at a hospital can already be done with WIFI.

Drones which require fast 5G signals to operate, is a DANGER HAZARD.

Does your reception ever break up? What happens when they're flying over areas which aren't covered.

More importantly, fast 5G only actually works at short range. By short, fast 5G requires 10 times more antennas than 4G, because the signal operates at a higher frequency they don't travel as far. So drones flying here there and everywhere aren't really going to be in those fast 5G areas now are they?

MEDICAL
The 5G being used currently operates at the 3GHz spectrum, but the problem is that 5G can go up to 100GHz. When you start going above 29GHz you hit the realm of extremely high frequency. This frequency is the same as those hated TSA scanners use, which by the way you only have to traverse sometimes if you're travelling internationally and unlucky. But more importantly, it's been used in the medical field to change cell growth[1].

Now doctors and scientists usually say, but hey, if phones were dangerous, there would be more cases of brain cancer, and yes, that's right, brain cancer rates haven't gone up, they've just steadily dropped slightly. HOWEVER, I don't know about you, but I don't constantly keep my phone on my head. Where I do keep it however, is near my balls.... Did you know since 2002, sperm counts have fallen by 50% over the past few decades[2].

Also, did you know that Apple recommend you use your smartphone on hands free. And Samsung recommend you place your phone 1.5cm away from your body. I don't know what kind of trousers you wear, but if your mates acting a bit weird, tell them to lay off the skinny jeans.

What's scary about 5G is its mission statement. 4G only supported 4000 devices per square km. But, 5G aims to support 1 million[3]. And considering that the different cells support from only 8 to 200 users, then you're looking at 5000 cells per km at the best case.

The one saving grace at the moment with 5G is that, currently it's all hype. The 5G that's being installed at the moment here in Australia operates at 3GHz[4], so, it's just ever so slightly faster than 4G, but these units are designed to operate at higher frequencies, and with a switch of a button, you might start needing some tin foil.

CREDITS
CNBC - Is 5G Safe: https://youtu.be/Ag1hkv2Upww

Collective Evolution - Veteran MD Drops Bombshell About 5G Technology Dangers At 5G Hearing: https://youtu.be/1Qt5B39LB7c

Talks at Google - Frank Abagnale - Catch Me If You Can: https://youtu.be/vsMydMDi3rI

RT America - How To Survive Dangers of 5G: https://youtu.be/aO1gZhwqCvI

TEDx Talks - Wireless wake-up call - Jeromy Johnson: https://youtu.be/F0NEaPTu9oI

The Conscious Resistance - Derrick Broze Educates Houston City Council on 5G Tech: https://youtu.be/NUa_XbgZgq8

Tesla - Tesla Autonomy Day: https://youtu.be/Ucp0TTmvqOE

Otiah - Winter Conspiracy: https://youtu.be/IESwrqKzniQ

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme...
[2] https://www.webmd.com/men/news/201707...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G#Over...
[4] https://www.telstra.com.au/aboutus/me...
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 25, 2019, 05:01:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IStGVPWdD08

5G Technology and Artificial Intelligence-
Warning from Extraterrestrial Pleiadian (Taygeta)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXbvL0uZkrY

The 5G Dragnet

corbettreport
Published on Jun 21, 2019
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: https://www.corbettreport.com/5g/


Tommy Bryan
5G is not about high speed internet. That is the cloak it is wrapped in. It is about total saturation of surveillance capability with every human being haveing a footprint that will be recorded. They will know even when you are in bed and who you are in bed with. Don't believe it, then please watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3tAxnNccY
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Irene on June 25, 2019, 08:14:36 PM
When I updated my phone this past spring I asked about the dangers of 5G. The guy laughed at me like I was crazy.

I'd say that last video pretty much makes him the fool and not me.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: micjer on June 26, 2019, 01:43:31 PM
Welcome to the Matrix!




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_takeover


An AI takeover is a hypothetical scenario in which artificial intelligence (AI) becomes the dominant form of intelligence on Earth, with computers or robots effectively taking control of the planet away from the human s
pecies. Possible scenarios include replacement of the entire human workforce, takeover by a superintelligent AI, and the popular notion of a robot uprising. Some public figures, such as Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk, have advocated research into precautionary measures to ensure future superintelligent machines remain under human control.[1] Robot rebellions have been a major theme throughout science fiction for many decades though the scenarios dealt with by science fiction are generally very different from those of concern to scientists.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: The Seeker on June 27, 2019, 12:39:58 AM
Quote from: micjer on June 26, 2019, 01:43:31 PM
Welcome to the Matrix!




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_takeover


An AI takeover is a hypothetical scenario in which artificial intelligence (AI) becomes the dominant form of intelligence on Earth, with computers or robots effectively taking control of the planet away from the human s
pecies. Possible scenarios include replacement of the entire human workforce, takeover by a superintelligent AI, and the popular notion of a robot uprising. Some public figures, such as Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk, have advocated research into precautionary measures to ensure future superintelligent machines remain under human control.[1] Robot rebellions have been a major theme throughout science fiction for many decades though the scenarios dealt with by science fiction are generally very different from those of concern to scientists.

Remember the words of H G Wells and Jules Verne at the start of the 20th century:" It is amazing how the science fiction of today becomes the reality of tomorrow..."

Whether it is the Matrix or Skynet, it's not going to be pretty...

Seeker
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 29, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs5iIveCx2A

EMF Safety Zone Interview with Amanda at IndigoAngel



Quiet One
1 month ago
All great advice as usual, especially the latest demonstration on using a cellphone safer. one small concern to consider is the possible side effects on using ethernet power lines that use your existing home wiring. according to a demonstration from a building biologist these power line adapters can be give off tons of EMFs dirty electricity, perhaps this isn't always the case, I don't know...but in my opinion a flat UTP or shielded Cat6/7 ethernet cable can be easily ran and connected to a ethernet switch or router at about 200ft lengths if needed and it's usually a cheaper and likely a safer alternative.

Part 1 demo starts here

Power Line Ethernet | Dangerous Alternative To Wifi | EMF Minimalist
https://youtu.be/4MZVx9d7knc

Part 2

Power Line Ethernet vs. Unshielded Cat-5 Ethernet | EMF Minimalist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAutOqD8IPw
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 13, 2020, 10:34:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMczP0oInVk

ALERT: Everyone Needs to Pay Attention to This! IT'S HAPPENING (2020)

Jan 10, 2020
Anonymous Official
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: micjer on March 28, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on January 13, 2020, 10:34:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMczP0oInVk

ALERT: Everyone Needs to Pay Attention to This! IT'S HAPPENING (2020)

Jan 10, 2020
Anonymous Official


Thanks Thor   your information provided is becoming more important it seems
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on March 28, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: micjer on March 28, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Thanks Thor   your information provided is becoming more important it seems
Could you tell us why you think that?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on March 28, 2020, 08:08:25 PM
I would like to see all the signals in the air to visualize how we are bombarded already by electromagnetic energy....

there's probably an app for that, but what i've seen so far are just for wifi and nothing else and they're usual just for hotspots...

I'm talking about ALL the electronic signals around us, to actually see them...

I believe there was a movie called Surrogates that had a scene in it that showed the actual signals in the air, of course this was just special effects for the movie.
But I believe people would be shocked by all the signals in the air around us. So something as powerful as 5G is kind of scary.

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: petrus4 on March 29, 2020, 06:49:27 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on January 13, 2020, 10:34:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMczP0oInVk

ALERT: Everyone Needs to Pay Attention to This! IT'S HAPPENING (2020)

Jan 10, 2020
Anonymous Official

I love the image of the Black Eyed Kid there; otherwise known as Fear Incarnate.

Can't you just feel the FEAR, everyone?  Don't you just feel irresistably compelled to lie down in a foetal position on the floor, close your eyes, and resign yourselves to pure, mindless, seething, screaming, gibbering terror?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on March 29, 2020, 12:22:02 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on March 29, 2020, 06:49:27 AM
I love the image of the Black Eyed Kid there; otherwise known as Fear Incarnate.
Or Photoshop.  ;)

QuoteCan't you just feel the FEAR, everyone?  Don't you just feel irresistably compelled to lie down in a foetal position on the floor, close your eyes, and resign yourselves to pure, mindless, seething, screaming, gibbering terror?
No, not at all.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: micjer on March 29, 2020, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on March 28, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
Could you tell us why you think that?


Canada's first 5G network goes live in four cities

https://www.engadget.com/2020-03-06-rogers-first-5g-network-in-canada-live.html


Sorry should have posted this part also.

Canada's first 5G network goes live, so now the debate on whether it is bad for you begins and Thor had posted all of the above information.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: micjer on May 13, 2020, 11:26:18 PM
Let's add to this thread and leave the Covid virus thread for relevant stuff.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 13, 2020, 11:38:02 PM
Here's one sure to kick off discussion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qXVkjZwcD8&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 14, 2020, 08:36:21 AM
It will be very difficult to keep apart 5g and covid.
I have recently noted an increase in a condition in fish known as white spot.
This is said to be caused by a parasite, which is commonly found in water ways and aquariums.

Cause and effects.

White spot is linked to STRESS in fish, this is normally OXYGEN DEPLETION.

THIS LEADS TO LIVING ENTITIES IMMUNE SYSTEMS AND HOW THEY DEFEND AGAINST ATTACKS.

To this end the main focus imho should be on 60 ghz transmissions, and how this frequency interacts with oxygen and the resultant consequences relative to immune systems in such as birds, bee's, fish, all animals and humans.

Our hospitals staff are fighting a consequence , and we will see reports of multiple strange conditions arising all been attributed to covid.

It will all be due to the immune systems been reduced.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 14, 2020, 09:02:00 AM
I have an almost unique talent, I am a very advanced dowser, I can focus and tune to whatever I have so focussed upon.

This enables Myself to determine the bio field about living entities, it's for a names sake the charge field about humans.

We are mostly water based entities.....H2O.

OXYGEN IS THEREFORE VITAL AND LINKED DIRECTLY TO THIS BIO FIELD, imagine your car battery with no acid in it.

As a dowser locating wells is a sort of basic, and this is where SPIN comes into the equation because water holds charge relative to how it has been spun, most of water from taps is discharged .

The well needs to where a spin zone is detectable that leads to the water been attracted towards the surface, this imparts a charge to the water  and so called gravity is in fact a consequence of attractive and repulsive layers of opposite charge around this planet ( watch the clouds and the discharges called lightening)

Back to 60 ghz and it's interaction with oxygen......SPIN

Remember water is H2O.

REMEMBER YOU ARE WATER.

THEY OPENLY ADMIT THAT 60 GHZ IS BEEN SO CALLED ABSORBED BY OXYGEN

SPIN.

You need charge, You need what is stupidly termed as energy, it is charge.

Oxygen carries this as a SPIN field.

This is far far larger than just humans, it is about life on this planet been killed due to it been discharged via oxygen depletion of charge.

If the birds, fish . animals and crops fail due to their immune systems been compromised due to oxygen depletion what are we going to eat to supply the required charge( energy)?????????????????????????

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: micjer on May 14, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
I did not know that about dowsing .  My uncle was able to do that also.

Odd how only some people are able to.

Certainly 5G is concerning as is microchips in humans.  We are what we are because of nature and there are frequencies and oxygen etc involved, and if they get messing with it who knows what we will become.

Zombie apocalypse comes to mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q7iX0QWaTg
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 14, 2020, 08:49:12 PM
micjer,

"who knows what We will become"

Yes the W.H.O knows .

We will be dead.

At some point enough humans will become aware of the agenda been rolled out now.

If not, there will be no We.

There will be them, whatever they are, which to My strange senses are reptiles.

To the victor the history.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 14, 2020, 09:25:29 PM
Based on what you desribe and after looking at the various information that you posted Kevin,
I could certain consider what you describe as being possble.

but I / other members also have come across many other suggestions...which also seem possible even and even as disturbing. All I/we can say is lets prey its all just made up or BS...

what in reality could we do...In the UK would be more difficult

and I think there is still too much of the population that would go along with things...and for those who are not familar with the things we have studied... thats took us some years... i would take too much time for some to accept esp if they intend to apply things now into a more intense motion with a goal of time in mind.

when you see some much authority and powerful military and technology with drones and some of these robots..
if they decide not to use actual people... it may seem a huge challenge...

and do we have a plan how to face it ?

It would seem horrendous if we are the generation to be effected by these theories...
and one wonders how long we could have left in time.

What if anything can be done ?

I just find now as I am older life just seems far far too complex... and I just feel like grain of sand in ref to the rest of the world and all the problems it and people have...

and one wonders where its disappeared to and why what ever has occurred has ?

Interesting wat you say about the Dowsing and being sensitive towards it...  Would you also consider yoursellf a type of medium / spiritist ?

Also if you were in a desert .. would you think you would have a good chance of survival or to find water if you lost in it ?


Quote from: kevin on May 14, 2020, 09:02:00 AM
I have an almost unique talent, I am a very advanced dowser, I can focus and tune to whatever I have so focussed upon.

This enables Myself to determine the bio field about living entities, it's for a names sake the charge field about humans.

We are mostly water based entities.....H2O.

OXYGEN IS THEREFORE VITAL AND LINKED DIRECTLY TO THIS BIO FIELD, imagine your car battery with no acid in it.

As a dowser locating wells is a sort of basic, and this is where SPIN comes into the equation because water holds charge relative to how it has been spun, most of water from taps is discharged .

The well needs to where a spin zone is detectable that leads to the water been attracted towards the surface, this imparts a charge to the water  and so called gravity is in fact a consequence of attractive and repulsive layers of opposite charge around this planet ( watch the clouds and the discharges called lightening)

Back to 60 ghz and it's interaction with oxygen......SPIN

Remember water is H2O.

REMEMBER YOU ARE WATER.

THEY OPENLY ADMIT THAT 60 GHZ IS BEEN SO CALLED ABSORBED BY OXYGEN

SPIN.

You need charge, You need what is stupidly termed as energy, it is charge.

Oxygen carries this as a SPIN field.

This is far far larger than just humans, it is about life on this planet been killed due to it been discharged via oxygen depletion of charge.

If the birds, fish . animals and crops fail due to their immune systems been compromised due to oxygen depletion what are we going to eat to supply the required charge( energy)?????????????????????????

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 14, 2020, 11:05:19 PM
Ok still doing  ton of digging on this. I have found a bunch of studies that do indicate most of what Kevin and others are saying. I have seen NO evidence of this causing Covid-19 so I will not speculate on that. We can focus on what we can see that is proven...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwLJOxXGOww

Some of this is not related SPECIFICALLY to 60Ghz but 5G encompasses many frequencies so I thought the information will still be relevant.

Planetary electromagnetic pollution: it is time to assess its impact
QuoteUnprecedented human exposure to radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation from conception until death has been occurring in the past two decades. Evidence of its effects on the CNS, including altered neurodevelopment14 and increased risk of some neurodegenerative diseases,15 is a major concern considering the steady increase in their incidence. Evidence exists for an association between neurodevelopmental or behavioural disorders in children and exposure to wireless devices,14 and experimental evidence, such as the Yale finding, shows that prenatal exposure could cause structural and functional changes in the brain associated with ADHD-like behaviour.16 These findings deserve urgent attention.
At the Oceania Radiofrequency Scientific Advisory Association, an independent scientific organisation, volunteering scientists have constructed the world's largest categorised online database of peer-reviewed studies on radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation and other man-made electromagnetic fields of lower frequencies. A recent evaluation of 2266 studies (including in-vitro and in-vivo studies in human, animal, and plant experimental systems and population studies) found that most studies (n=1546, 68·2%) have demonstrated significant biological or health effects associated with exposure to anthropogenic electromagnetic fields. We have published our preliminary data on radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation, which shows that 89% (216 of 242) of experimental studies that investigated oxidative stress endpoints showed significant effects.7 This weight of scientific evidence refutes the prominent claim that the deployment of wireless technologies poses no health risks at the currently permitted non-thermal radiofrequency exposure levels. Instead, the evidence supports the International EMF Scientist Appeal by 244 scientists from 41 countries who have published on the subject in peer-reviewed literature and collectively petitioned the WHO and the UN for immediate measures to reduce public exposure to artificial electromagnetic fields and radiation.
Evidence also exists of the effects of radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation on flora and fauna. For example, the reported global reduction in bees and other insects is plausibly linked to the increased radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation in the environment.17 Honeybees are among the species that use magnetoreception, which is sensitive to anthropogenic electromagnetic fields, for navigation.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519618302213 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519618302213)

Effects of Long-Term Exposure to 60 GHz Millimeter-Wavelength Radiation on the Genotoxicity and Heat Shock Protein (Hsp) Expression of Cells Derived from Human Eye
QuoteThe findings from the present study suggest that exposure of HCE-T and SRA01/04 cells to millimeter-wavelength radiation at 60 GHz for 24 h has no significant effect on MN frequency, single-strand breaks in the DNA, or Hsp expression. In conclusion, the exposure of cells to millimeter-wavelength radiation at 60 GHz does not seem to have adverse effects on the genotoxicity or Hsp expression of cultured HCE-T and SRA01/04 cells using our specific experimental conditions, although the possible effects of other frequencies require further study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997488/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997488/)

Long-term exposure to a 40-GHz electromagnetic field does not affect genotoxicity or heat shock protein expression in HCE-T or SRA01/04 cells.
QuoteAbstract
Millimeter waves are used in various fields, and the risks of this wavelength range for human health must be carefully evaluated. In this study, we investigated the effects of millimeter waves on genotoxicity and heat shock protein expression in human corneal epithelial (HCE-T) and human lens epithelial (SRA01/04) cells. We exposed the cells to 40-GHz millimeter waves at 1 mW/cm2 for 24 h. We observed no statistically significant increase in the micronucleus (MN) frequency or the level of DNA strand breaks in cells exposed to 40-GHz millimeter waves relative to sham-exposed and incubator controls. Heat shock protein (Hsp) expression also exhibited no statistically significant response to the 40-GHz exposure. These results indicate that exposure to 40 GHz millimeter waves under these conditions has little or no effect on MN formation, DNA strand breaks, or Hsp expression in HCE-T or SRA01/04 cells.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31197350 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31197350)

Effects of 1.8 GHz radiofrequency field on DNA damage and expression of heat shock protein 70 in human lens epithelial cells.
QuoteAbstract
To investigate the DNA damage, expression of heat shock protein 70 (Hsp70) and cell proliferation of human lens epithelial cells (hLEC) after exposure to the 1.8 GHz radiofrequency field (RF) of a global system for mobile communications (GSM). An Xc-1800 RF exposure system was used to employ a GSM signal at 1.8 GHz (217 Hz amplitude-modulated) with the output power in the specific absorption rate (SAR) of 1, 2 and 3 W/kg. After 2 h exposure to RF, the DNA damage of hLEC was accessed by comet assay at five different incubation times: 0, 30, 60, 120 and 240 min, respectively. Western blot and RT-PCR were used to determine the expression of Hsp70 in hLECs after RF exposure. The proliferation rate of cells was evaluated by bromodeoxyuridine incorporation on days 0, 1 and 4 after exposure. The results show that the difference of DNA-breaks between the exposed and sham-exposed (control) groups induced by 1 and 2 W/kg irradiation were not significant at any incubation time point (P > 0.05). The DNA damage caused by 3 W/kg irradiation was significantly increased at the times of 0 and 30 min after exposure (P < 0.05), a phenomenon that could not be seen at the time points of 60, 120 or 240 min (P > 0.05). Detectable mRNA as well as protein expression of Hsp70 was found in all groups. Exposure at SARs of 2 and 3 W/kg for 2 h exhibited significantly increased Hsp70 protein expression (P < 0.05), while no change in Hsp70 mRNA expression could be found in any of the groups (P > 0.05). No difference of the cell proliferation rate between the sham-exposed and exposed cells was found at any exposure dose tested (P > 0.05). The results indicate that exposure to non-thermal dosages of RF for wireless communications can induce no or repairable DNA damage and the increased Hsp70 protein expression in hLECs occurred without change in the cell proliferation rate. The non-thermal stress response of Hsp70 protein increase to RF exposure might be involved in protecting hLEC from DNA damage and maintaining the cellular capacity for proliferation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17011595 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17011595)

Effects of Exposure to 5.8 GHz Electromagnetic Field on Micronucleus Formation, DNA Strand Breaks, and Heat Shock Protein Expressions in Cells Derived From Human Eye.
QuoteAbstract
In the near future, electrification will be introduced to heavy-duty vehicles and passenger cars. However, the wireless power transfer (WPT) requires high energy levels, and the suitability of various types of WPT systems must be assessed. This paper describes a method for solving technical and safety issues associated with this technology. We exposed human corneal epithelial (HCE-T) cells derived from the human eye to 5.8-GHz electromagnetic fields for 24 h. We observed no statistically significant increase in micronucleus (MN) frequency in cells exposed to a 5.8-GHz field at 1 mW/cm2 (the general public level in ICNIRP) relative to sham-exposed or incubator controls. Similarly, the DNA strand breaks, and the expression of heat shock protein (Hsp) Hsp27, Hsp70, and Hsp 90α exhibited no statistically significant effects as a result of exposure. These results indicate that the exposure to 5.8-GHz electromagnetic fields at 1 mW/cm2 for 24 h has little or no effect on micronucleus formation, DNA strand breaks, and Hsp expression in human eye cells.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30892224 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30892224)

Human Skin as Arrays of Helical Antennas in the Millimeter and Submillimeter Wave Range
QuoteRecent studies of the minute morphology of the skin by optical coherence tomography showed that the sweat ducts in human skin are helically shaped tubes, filled with a conductive aqueous solution. A computer simulation study of these structures in millimeter and submillimeter wave bands show that the human skin functions as an array of low-Q helical antennas. Experimental evidence is presented that the spectral response in the sub-Terahertz region is governed by the level of activity of the perspiration system. It is also correlated to physiological stress as manifested by the pulse rate and the systolic blood pressure.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51394628_Human_Skin_as_Arrays_of_Helical_Antennas_in_the_Millimeter_and_Submillimeter_Wave_Range (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51394628_Human_Skin_as_Arrays_of_Helical_Antennas_in_the_Millimeter_and_Submillimeter_Wave_Range)

Ok so 5G might give you a warm sensation on your skin but nothing on the level of what you would feel from SUNLIGHT.

Non-ionizing Radiation is Rather Hot
QuoteThe dielectric heating principle holds true for all non-ionizing radiation: the primary effect on the human body consists of affecting the dipole moment of molecules in our tissues, causing localized heating. This is why standing in the sunshine, or in front of an infrared (IR) heating lamp, or an operating radar dish makes one feel warm. What we perceive as 'heat' radiating off objects is mostly in the IR spectrum, which is why IR-sensitive sensors are commonly used to measure this, for example with IR cameras.
Although in an extreme situation this type of radiation can also affect cell membranes, this requires lots more energy. By the time that happens, the heat produced would be carried by the blood into the body's core, where it would disrupt essential enzymatic and other functions. Disrupting this core body temperature is almost inevitably lethal, and would get you before the cellular damage even had a chance.
Additionally, the penetration depth of EM radiation (EMR) into biological tissue decreases sharply after about 10 MHz, meaning that high-frequency EMR mostly affects just the skin and the tissues directly underneath it. Before the disruption of cell membranes in that area becomes an issue, one's core body temperature will already have risen to and beyond lethal levels, in the form of heat stroke.

QuoteTo the best of our knowledge today, we can say with confidence that there are no effects from non-ionizing radiation beyond the thermal effects, except for the edge case of UV radiation. May there be new discoveries in the future that show that e were too optimistic about the safety of RF EMR? The data and evidence regarding cellphone use since the 1980s does not support any of the propositions that their use is somehow harmful, nor do any controlled studies.
To this day, the only real demonstrable harm from smartphone use is that of walking into open manhole covers, against lighting posts, and of course causing traffic accidents. The best advice thus is to use one's cellphone only when it's safe to do so, and avoid using it while driving or walking. In addition, be careful about trusting random information from anyone that you haven't verified yourself. In case of doubt, consult an actual expert in the field.
https://hackaday.com/2020/04/08/on-5g-and-the-fear-of-radiation/ (https://hackaday.com/2020/04/08/on-5g-and-the-fear-of-radiation/)




Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 15, 2020, 12:17:08 AM
Quote from: kevin on May 14, 2020, 09:02:00 AM
OXYGEN IS THEREFORE VITAL AND LINKED DIRECTLY TO THIS BIO FIELD, imagine your car battery with no acid in it.
It wouldn't be able to produce as much energy as it does, as acid in the battery makes the water in it to be more conductive, so it allows electric currents to move across the water better than if there wasn't any acid. No acid = more energy spent trying to pass through the water = less energy available at the end.

QuoteAs a dowser locating wells is a sort of basic, and this is where SPIN comes into the equation because water holds charge relative to how it has been spun, most of water from taps is discharged .
What do you mean by "spun"? How is the water "spun"? The molecules, atoms, atomic particles? What? In what way?

QuoteThe well needs to where a spin zone is detectable that leads to the water been attracted towards the surface, this imparts a charge to the water  and so called gravity is in fact a consequence of attractive and repulsive layers of opposite charge around this planet ( watch the clouds and the discharges called lightening)
Lightning is the result of electric fields being created inside the clouds that have strong winds inside them, like in a Van de Graaf generator.

QuoteTHEY OPENLY ADMIT THAT 60 GHZ IS BEEN SO CALLED ABSORBED BY OXYGEN
They do, it's no secret, in the same way other frequencies are absorbed by other molecules, like water.

QuoteOxygen carries this as a SPIN field.
Explain what a "spin field" is, please.

QuoteIf the birds, fish . animals and crops fail due to their immune systems been compromised due to oxygen depletion what are we going to eat to supply the required charge( energy)?????????????????????????
Well, if that is true why aren't all other life forms being affected like we are?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 15, 2020, 01:33:10 AM
Before anyone gets excited about what they see in this video, the hardware itself needs to be checked out. I'm thinking this is not what it appears to be and for that matter possibly the entire video as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEGdM04ajW8
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 15, 2020, 07:29:59 AM
Coincidence? "COV-19" Circuit inside New 5G Cellular Circuit Boards

I would be surprised if it was for real..

If not how good a job have they attempted... a Small silver looking flat package like a Durex pack with COV.19 wrote on it stuck on a circuit board with what looks like a tube connection or something above it sticking out.

But if it was for real...I dont think we would be able to find any real ref to it in normal search engines.

I posted this a few mins ago to show an image and initially it appeared in the post..

next thing I know it has disappeared... and I do not know why ?

https://halturnerradioshow.com/images/2020/05/14/COV-19-In-5G-CircuitBoard_large.jpg

Now I get.

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access this resource

but I managed to copy a smaller img that I found in Bing imgs that took me to the page in the 1st place.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIF.xoLNpJnWB06Bwa16tmQuuA?w=230&h=160&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)

Then I found this one...from Before its news.

(https://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/713008/images/COV-19_5G_Circuit_Board.png)

https://beforeitsnews.com/healthcare/2020/05/5g-circuit-board-labelled-cov-19-coincidence-this-is-a-reminder-that-we-have-good-reason-to-look-harder-at-5g-and-how-it-could-be-used-by-those-that-just-took-the-world-down-on-fake-media-lies-an-2539459.html

QuoteWhat if COV"ID" 19'84′ Tests / Gates Vaccine was designed to deliver a nano payload in to each of us such that when later energized by a frequency via 5G source the payload was designed to react triggering a response, perhaps viral, designed to kill the host!  Through such a Weapons system the cabal could fake another 2nd more deadly viral Plandemic which they have already promised us!
Phase One of the Plandemic may be a means to force the Vaccine with desired payload on to us to enable a 2nd wave designed to cause a Genocide event!
Does anyone think that the parasites would not stoop this low if they thought they could get away with it!
Sound crazy? They certainly have the tech to do this!
This needs to be very seriously investigated!

(https://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/713008/images/69928876_10205874399975152_7973244942619246592_n.jpg)


Someone once said "there are no coincidences" and that many times, so-called "Conspiracy Theories" turn out to be true.  Early in the COVID-19 outbreak, many people worldwide said the "virus" had something to do with the then-recently-activated 5G cellular system.  Below, a video from a worker who installs those 5G towers showing a circuit board for the tower, containing some type of electronic device labeled "COV-19."

I have taken a download of this video in the event Youtube removes it from their platform.  Youtube is a ferocious CENSOR of truth, so nowadays, I take copies of things from their site to make sure real information cannot be "black-holed."

Quotehttps://halturnerradioshow.com/images/2020/05/14/COV-19-In-5G-CircuitBoard_large.jpg

I am presently unable to find __any__ company that produces __any_ device they call (or refer to) as "COV-19."

So, what is it?

In areas where 5G cellular towers are turned on, animals of all types do very weird things.  For instance, this video shows birds LITERALLY ATTACKING the antennas on a 5G Cellular tower, using their beaks to rip the coaxial cables out of the antennas themselves!


https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/coincidence-cov-19-circuit-inside-new-5g-cellular-circuit-boards
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 15, 2020, 09:13:36 AM
ArmaP,

As We here in the Uk have been allowed out of prison for leisure, I have been fishing.

A lake I normally fish in Brackley next to the Mercedes formula one teams headquarters is closed due to white spot.

This is the fish creating a scab over a parasite , this parasite is common to all water ways but gets it's chance to invade the fish when the fish become stressed.
This stress is often OXYGEN DEPLETION.

So I went onto our local canal the Oxford canal, and found the fish there also having white spot.

I am super observant as a dowser of nature.

SPIN FIELD.

With respect most respected one, You will find it hard to comprehend something that is not indoctrinated.

Magnets give a glimpse of this , but it is not magnetics as such I am detecting, it is how consciousness implodes and outrushes into and out of the planet.

This is where hydrogen comes in also, and how it interacts with consciousness, and it is the duality of spin that enables creation and the continuation of life.

Your cells need this duality has they have a duality of spin fields about them, they need this to replicate which they do continuously.

This has commonly been called energy, which is total crap.

The spin field is detectable as implosion spirals or outrush opposite spirals, and our ancestors carved this all around the globe, but it's called art by those blind to what is occurring in nature.

H2O carries both oxygen and consciousness, and dependant on where that water is located relates to the high content of such spin it is carrying.

Most wells here in the UK are capped or filled with concrete now, and only DEAD water carrying little consciousness is supplied, in Your terms energy.

I know about SPIN armap.
http://www.spirasolaris.ca/

Do do the sea shells , she sells , by the sea shore.



Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 15, 2020, 12:06:56 PM
QuoteCoincidence? "COV-19" Circuit inside New 5G Cellular Circuit Boards

I would be surprised if it was for real..

I'm thinking it's likely just an acronym for "COAXIAL VIDEO" As it is a coaxial cable hook up to that port.

We don't know what is in the black case on his car as well at the end of the video. Could be an engraving kit. He could have made that himself for all we know.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 15, 2020, 12:28:18 PM
The man sounds a bit of a scouser to me and maybe from  Liverpool in the  U.K..although he could be elsewhere..
as Scousers (nick name given we use) are from Liverpool in the UK..

I just observed this on a further watch..

What do you make at the 11 to 12 seconds mark...just before he refers to saying about " crack open the kits ". when he holds up the circuit... you can see the small package and it looks a bit transparent and sort of glowing reddish... and you can see part of a tube or something inside it..

That does look rather strange and he does not make an issue of it or point it out...
so it sort of looks maybe as if it could be something  rather unusual...

if he was hoaxing it.. I think he would also be pointing that out..more maybe.

otherwise what would that  or  could it be ?  any suggestions ?

Has he put some sort of red light light behind it somehow for eg.. to make it appear to glow reddish.

or it was genuine... what substance could it possibly be that may for eg contain some sort of virus or chemical that may
react to what ever...

I also noticed at around the 26 secs and  40 sec mark... that on the package... the Cov 19 writing may have appeared to have been wrote on it in some sort of embedded way... rather than say letters placed over it...
and you can see a slight reddish part when he shows it in good light..

I tried to note what what you could see when he turned the circuit around the 26 secs and 40 sec mark... but he does it too quick before turning it back.. and the video does not catch the whole view of it..

butI was wondering when we see the 12 sec part... which way around was he holding it... the main front or the back of the circuit... Also at the 48 to 50 sec mark... he turns the circuit over again and you can see a different view of ithe underside of it..

I did not really take much notice of his car as you point out as its right at the very end.
but yes what ever he has on his car looks of interest.. and he also seems to have something in his car on one of the seats. but the video moves to quick to really get a good view of it ,unless one can freeze the video better somehow.

I noted he had something wrote on his mask that I tried to read but I am struggling to make it out..


Quote from: Ellirium113 on May 15, 2020, 12:06:56 PM
I'm thinking it's likely just an acronym for "COAXIAL VIDEO" As it is a coaxial cable hook up to that port.

We don't know what is in the black case on his car
as well at the end of the video. Could be an engraving kit. He could have made that himself for all we know.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 15, 2020, 02:22:29 PM
https://www.i-micronews.com/infineons-60-ghz-radar-chip-brings-motion-detection-to-google-pixel-4/?cn-reloaded=1

The place to find that chip will be with it's manufacturers.

https://www.ti.com/product/IWR6843

You can zoom in to texas instruments boards




Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 15, 2020, 02:35:01 PM
Kev

Are you suggesting thats what we see in the video on the circuit board thathas Cov 19 wrote on it ?

Would you say what we see in the video is the same chip ?

I have been aware of spy type cameras, microphones  and motion detectors etc on lamp posts and other places
where it spys on the public or suggestions that this could be coming in in more places..

maybe even on every street lampost..

If so it really seems like the Spectre Bond Movie where they wanted to increase suveilance..

(https://s3.i-micronews.com/uploads/2019/10/Infineon_yole.jpg)


(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIF.xoLNpJnWB06Bwa16tmQuuA?w=230&h=160&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)


Quote from: kevin on May 15, 2020, 02:22:29 PM
https://www.i-micronews.com/infineons-60-ghz-radar-chip-brings-motion-detection-to-google-pixel-4/?cn-reloaded=1

The place to find that chip will be with it's manufacturers.

https://www.ti.com/product/IWR6843

You can zoom in to texas instruments boards




Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 15, 2020, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on May 15, 2020, 07:29:59 AM
But if it was for real...I dont think we would be able to find any real ref to it in normal search engines.
If it was real I doubt they would put it on the shield of that component. :)

QuoteSomeone once said "there are no coincidences" and that many times, so-called "Conspiracy Theories" turn out to be true.
Usually, people that say that there are no coincidences do that just because they use a different name for it, usually something that sounds "cooler" and/or esoteric.

QuoteEarly in the COVID-19 outbreak, many people worldwide said the "virus" had something to do with the then-recently-activated 5G cellular system.
That's why it's no surprise people are using that to make money and fame.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 15, 2020, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 15, 2020, 09:13:36 AM
With respect most respected one, You will find it hard to comprehend something that is not indoctrinated.
::)

QuoteMagnets give a glimpse of this , but it is not magnetics as such I am detecting, it is how consciousness implodes and outrushes into and out of the planet.

This is where hydrogen comes in also, and how it interacts with consciousness, and it is the duality of spin that enables creation and the continuation of life.

Your cells need this duality has they have a duality of spin fields about them, they need this to replicate which they do continuously.

This has commonly been called energy, which is total crap.

The spin field is detectable as implosion spirals or outrush opposite spirals, and our ancestors carved this all around the globe, but it's called art by those blind to what is occurring in nature.

H2O carries both oxygen and consciousness, and dependant on where that water is located relates to the high content of such spin it is carrying.

Most wells here in the UK are capped or filled with concrete now, and only DEAD water carrying little consciousness is supplied, in Your terms energy.
Many words that do not explain what a "spin field" is...

QuoteI know about SPIN armap.
http://www.spirasolaris.ca/
Or you just have a different indoctrination. ;)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 15, 2020, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on May 15, 2020, 12:28:18 PM
What do you make at the 11 to 12 seconds mark...just before he refers to saying about " crack open the kits ". when he holds up the circuit... you can see the small package and it looks a bit transparent and sort of glowing reddish... and you can see part of a tube or something inside it..
I think the metal is just reflecting the man's orange vest.

Quoteif he was hoaxing it.. I think he would also be pointing that out..more maybe.
If he was hoaxing he would likely avoid showing identifying parts that could allow people that know that board (or similar) to point to their real origin and purpose, not showing any component, specially the one with the metal shielding, makes it more suspicious.

Quoteotherwise what would that  or  could it be ?  any suggestions ?
As Ellirium113 said, it looks like a coaxial plug.

QuoteI also noticed at around the 26 secs and  40 sec mark... that on the package... the Cov 19 writing may have appeared to have been wrote on it in some sort of embedded way... rather than say letters placed over it...
and you can see a slight reddish part when he shows it in good light..
The letters appear to be punched (I don't know how to say it, I hope everybody understands what I mean) on the metal, while the reddish is, as I said before, probably a reflection of the guy's vest.

QuoteI tried to note what what you could see when he turned the circuit around the 26 secs and 40 sec mark... but he does it too quick before turning it back.. and the video does not catch the whole view of it..
I'll try to get some images from the video. :)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 15, 2020, 09:30:18 PM
When I went to download the video it was already gone from YouTube, but I found it here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KmXGrOyrKjoA/
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 16, 2020, 12:51:37 AM
In ref to these two quotes that you replied to ArmaP...

Just to let you know... I did not write them... they were copied from some of the links that I referred to..

I only wrote the top part before I included the 1st image of the Silver Package..

Quote
    Someone once said "there are no coincidences" and that many times, so-called "Conspiracy Theories" turn out to be true.

Usually, people that say that there are no coincidences do that just because they use a different name for it, usually something that sounds "cooler" and/or esoteric.


Quote
    Early in the COVID-19 outbreak, many people worldwide said the "virus" had something to do with the then-recently-activated 5G cellular system.

That's why it's no surprise people are using that to make money and fame.

                                               
                                          ---------------------------------------------------------------------


                             
When you see him from the first 20 seconds... you can see he has something orangy red at least on the top part of his body... but you can only see his shoulder area and nothing lower..
That may account for some of the other later parts of the video that its his reflection..
but to me the part at the 12 second mark where its seems more reddish... the position hes holding it at.. does not seem to face him.... unless he has some else in a similar jacket filming him.


Quote from: ArMaP on May 15, 2020, 09:25:11 PM

I think the metal is just reflecting the man's orange vest.

So what do you make of it... a hoax or possibly something for real ? or something else ?


If he was hoaxing he would likely avoid showing identifying parts that could allow people that know that board (or similar) to point to their real origin and purpose, not showing any component, specially the one with the metal shielding, makes it more suspicious.

could be..but I am not sure what type that maybe...
doing an image search seems to show Aerial type connections..and I dont think its that type..
although you do get those or similar that go into computers for certain add on components.



As Ellirium113 said, it looks like a coaxial plug.


I am not sure myself how to best try to explain how the letters appear..
I think I know what you mean but I am not sure id say punched...

I thought sort of embedded.. but from the inside to push the metalic material outwards rather than from the outside pushing the material inwards.

I did take some images from the video to try to look closer at them..at least just for easy reference..
to try to catch certain parts that seem to show certain things at clearer points in the video.



The letters appear to be punched (I don't know how to say it, I hope everybody understands what I mean) on the metal, while the reddish is, as I said before, probably a reflection of the guy's vest.
I'll try to get some images from the video. :)

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: micjer on May 16, 2020, 03:11:28 PM
Is this what you are referring to as spin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Gus-qIT74
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on May 16, 2020, 12:51:37 AM
In ref to these two quotes that you replied to ArmaP...

Just to let you know... I did not write them... they were copied from some of the links that I referred to..
You should have used the "quote" tag, so everybody would know that those words were not yours. :)

QuoteWhen you see him from the first 20 seconds... you can see he has something orangy red at least on the top part of his body... but you can only see his shoulder area and nothing lower..
That may account for some of the other later parts of the video that its his reflection..
but to me the part at the 12 second mark where its seems more reddish... the position hes holding it at.. does not seem to face him.... unless he has some else in a similar jacket filming him.

You can see that the mask is also reddish, from the light reflecting from his vest.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/KmXGrOyrKjoA_01.jpg)

could be..but I am not sure what type that maybe...
doing an image search seems to show Aerial type connections..and I dont think its that type..
although you do get those or similar that go into computers for certain add on components.

Look at this TV capture card for PCs and you will see why Ellirium113 said that.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/hauppauge_1609_wintv_quadhd_pcie_card_1261230.jpg)

QuoteI thought sort of embedded.. but from the inside to push the metalic material outwards rather than from the outside pushing the material inwards.
Looking better at it I think you're right, the letters are sticking out above the face of that metal piece.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 16, 2020, 03:59:22 PM
micjer,

Magnetics give a glimpse of the spin field of consciousness, which is arranged around polarity and equator, with the northern hemisphere been dominant and spinning counter clockwise when looking down on the pole, and the southern hemisphere spinning clockwise .
This then creates the heart centre location where the spin field reverses through.


It's toroidal , every so called atom will be arranged within this, and what I sense is happening with 60 ghz is that the spin field directions are been reversed, and the iron haemoglobin is thus not attracting the oxygen.


Why is this POSSIBLE  alternative explanation for the condition not been allowed to be even debated openly???????????????????

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 04:04:30 PM
Instagram has a better version of the video.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAK2uuXnAvU/


Edited to add that what I find strange in that board is that there's too much empty space for something that is supposed to go on an antenna and there aren't any power transistors visible, as I think there should be on something connected to an antenna.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 16, 2020, 04:07:32 PM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11638154/scuffles-protests-london-coronavirus-lockdown/

I hope You can see the total biased  reporting in that, piers Corbyn was led away, why is free speech been banned???

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 16, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
just in case You don't know, piers Corbyn is an astrophysicist.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11638154/scuffles-protests-london-coronavirus-lockdown/

he is exactly the sort of expert in radiation We need to listen to.

He is not some form of crazed crackpot these biased reports try to paint people as.


Kevin



Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 04:46:51 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 16, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
he is exactly the sort of expert in radiation We need to listen to.
Why is an astrophysicist the sort of expert in radiation we need to listen to? I would think a real expert in radiation, like telecommunications engineer would be the best sort of expert to listen about radio frequencies and a biologist the sort of expert we would need to listen to for information about the effects of that radiation on humans.

QuoteHe is not some form of crazed crackpot these biased reports try to paint people as.
He can be both. :)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 16, 2020, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 04:46:51 PM
Why is an astrophysicist the sort of expert in radiation we need to listen to? I would think a real expert in radiation, like telecommunications engineer would be the best sort of expert to listen about radio frequencies and a biologist the sort of expert we would need to listen to for information about the effects of that radiation on humans.
He can be both. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrophysics

I beg to differ most fair and respected one, the astrophysicist is exactly the branch of expertise required.

I agree He could be both, either , or neither.

The problem is in the total denial of any evidence been given in support of the blanket denial of any problem or connection with the condition called covid been in any way related to radiation at 60 ghz.
It is obscene and shows that actually it is possibly highly involved but those who want total control are blocking any discussion or evidence about it.


I doubt 100% Arnmap that You would believe or not believe in anything that could be causing such deaths should not be allowed to be fully debated and investigated openly.

Kevin

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 16, 2020, 05:15:43 PM
I doubt 100% Arnmap that You would believe or not believe in anything that could be causing such deaths should not be allowed to be fully debated and investigated openly.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by that, could you rephrase it?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 05:52:38 PM
According to "REUTERS FACT CHECK", the video with the COV-19 board is fake, and it shows a board from a Virgin set-top box.

False claim: Video shows 5G telecoms equipment stamped with 'COV-19' ready to be installed into a mast (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-circuit-board/false-claim-video-shows-5g-telecoms-equipment-stamped-with-cov-19-ready-to-be-installed-into-a-mast-idUSKBN22R35M)

I searched for images showing opened set-top boxes and they do look similar to that board in the video.
Here are 3 videos showing similar boards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZNpKvmeQE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY7gVhfvJA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5a9foqJdBc

PS: that Reuters Fact Check site looks like a good place to look for conspiracy theories. ;)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 16, 2020, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 05:29:52 PM
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by that, could you rephrase it?

I value Your reasoned view on this subject, and so trust that You would want to see an open debate as to the reality of 60 ghz been involved with a condition currently been blamed in entirety on a virus.

This is not been allowed, it is been ridiculed , blocked and never debated, no evidence is been allowed for or against such a claim, in fact a total and absolute denial with no scientific evidence to back up the denial.

This is out and out fascism, with only the state story been allowed.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 16, 2020, 07:30:33 PM
ArMaP,
I hope this sort of link doesn't put You into a spin.

http://www.uvs-model.com/WFE%20on%20evolve%20of%20stars%20and%20galaxies.htm

As above, so below.

At all scale a dual vortice .

It's all about spin.


Kevin


Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 16, 2020, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 16, 2020, 06:23:24 PM
I value Your reasoned view on this subject, and so trust that You would want to see an open debate as to the reality of 60 ghz been involved with a condition currently been blamed in entirety on a virus.
I understand it now, thanks.

Although I don't think there's a connection between 5G and CoViD-19 I am against censorship in any way and hope an open discussion will bring out the truth, whatever it may be. :)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 16, 2020, 11:23:47 PM
Nice photo that shows the image I referred to ArMaP

I still find the reflection from that Covid package or whatever it is looks more red than I would had expected from
just a reflection... although it probably was like a silver Mirror type material that almost acts like a proper mirror.

Quote
You can see that the mask is also reddish, from the light reflecting from his vest.

what you have found in that article and videos may now have solved the mystery...at least for now..

unless something else follows it up to continue the story...

QuoteAccording to "REUTERS FACT CHECK", the video with the COV-19 board is fake, and it shows a board from a Virgin set-top box.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: petrus4 on May 17, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
This thread is becoming repetitive, and extremely boring.

The following is a summary of this thread, as I perceive it.

Kevin:  "Guys, 5G is going to destroy the world and kill everyone!  We have to DO SOMETHING!"

Everyone Else:  "Kevin, while we are not completely dismissive of that possibility, we are going to need evidence presented by people who either a} are not commercialistic frauds, b} are not visibly and severely mentally ill, and c} do not spend substantial portions of said videos, pre-emptively condemning anyone who does not listen to them as an idiot."
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 17, 2020, 08:32:11 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on May 17, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
This thread is becoming repetitive, and extremely boring.

The following is a summary of this thread, as I perceive it.

Kevin:  "Guys, 5G is going to destroy the world and kill everyone!  We have to DO SOMETHING!"

Everyone Else:  "Kevin, while we are not completely dismissive of that possibility, we are going to need evidence presented by people who either a} are not commercialistic frauds, b} are not visibly and severely mentally ill, and c} do not spend substantial portions of said videos, pre-emptively condemning anyone who does not listen to them as an idiot."

Sorry to bore You our rock.
And "everyone else"

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 17, 2020, 10:42:53 AM
Many a topic may had been over discussed before in past topics or threads .
some get more members involved and some just a few..

but considering the concerns over Covid 19, that could be if its for real or if  its part of some type of  much more serious side of a NWO plot. this seems what is one of the most concerning issues at the present time.

I dont see why anything that is considered has not been worth its investigation..
which is usually what this forum does...

whether the topic has been now been considered or concluded enough to have valid info to be understood or proven..
may still be hard to determine. its maybe a rather complex subject in ref to any Science / technolgy that may had been involved.

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 17, 2020, 11:35:44 AM
petrus4, and everyone else,

This is George Orwells final message to You, and Me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k_ptxWsadI


"Don't let it happen"

It is happening, however "bored" with it You are.


Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 17, 2020, 11:48:03 AM
https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/18272362.superfast-5g-mobile-phone-speeds-arrive-barrow/

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/theyre-just-not-taking-it-seriously-life-in-the-town-with-the-highest-infection-rate-in-england/ar-BB14bnMO?MSCC=1589712588&ocid=spartandhp

There not taking it seriously.

kevin

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 17, 2020, 11:55:25 AM
I think what George said is what as to many people consider has been the case thru out a certain period  of history..at least as to how it effects a certain % of the population.

It seems the Powers that be ... do at varying times attempt to act on it in a more severe way.

ie to keep us / them under control, poor or to try prevent us being happy or reproducing...

but that is not all or completly the case for all ... or we would not now be here...

But it coud well be that they are trying to make us rather somewhat concerned and unhappy ! or attempting to
upset  the next generation.

It seems so often that a certain % of people will always struggle more and some seem to thrive or are able to not be easily brought down... I seems the old questions of is it fate , luck , or in born abilities to avoid being effected in the way that they maybe attempting.

Some of George Orwells final comments in the video.

Quote
Allowing for the book, after all, being a parody, something like 1984 could actually happen. This is the direction the world is going in at the present time. In our world, there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement.

The sex instinct will be eradicated. We shall abolish the orgasm. There will be no loyalty except loyalty to the Party. But always there will be the intoxication of power. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who's helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever. The moral to be drawn from this dangerous nightmare situation is a simple one: don't let it happen. It depends on you.

Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 17, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on May 17, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
This thread is becoming repetitive, and extremely boring.

The following is a summary of this thread, as I perceive it.

Kevin:  "Guys, 5G is going to destroy the world and kill everyone!  We have to DO SOMETHING!"

Everyone Else:  "Kevin, while we are not completely dismissive of that possibility, we are going to need evidence presented by people who either a} are not commercialistic frauds, b} are not visibly and severely mentally ill, and c} do not spend substantial portions of said videos, pre-emptively condemning anyone who does not listen to them as an idiot."

I have stayed out of this as much as possible, mostly I find it ludicrous, with fear and loathing the main topic....(or it just doesn't interest me)  ::)

Petrus4, I tend to agree with you on most of this....

Then I saw this on the news this morning and couldn't help but comment....

'Conspiracy theorists burn 5G towers claiming link to virus
Conspiracy theories linking new 5G mobile networks and the coronavirus pandemic are fueling arson attacks on cell towers in Europe'

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/conspiracy-theorists-burn-5g-towers-claiming-link-virus-70258811

False narratives around 5G and the coronavirus have been shared hundreds of thousands of times on social media. They vary widely from claims that the coronavirus is a coverup for 5G deployment to those that say new 5G installations have created the virus.

"To be concerned that 5G is somehow driving the COVID-19 epidemic is just wrong," Dr. Jonathan Samet, dean of the Colorado School of Public Health who chaired a World Health Organization committee that researched cell phone radiation and cancer. "I just don't find any plausible way to link them."

Anti-5G activists are undeterred.

Susan Brinchman, director of the Center for Electrosmog Prevention, a nonprofit campaigning against "environmental electromagnetic pollution," says that people have a right to be concerned about 5G and links to COVID-19. "The entire 5G infrastructure should be dismantled and turned off," she said by email.

But there's no evidence that wireless communications - whether 5G or earlier versions - harm the immune system, said Myrtill Simko, scientific director of SciProof International in Sweden, who has spent decades researching the matter.

The current wave of 5G theories dates back to January, when a Belgian doctor suggested a link to COVID-19. Older variations were circulating before that, mostly revolving around cellphone radiation causing cancer, spreading on Reddit forums, Facebook pages and YouTube channels. Even with daily wireless use among vast majority of adults, the National Cancer Institute has not seen an increase in brain tumors.


If I've repeated anything from previous posts, I apologize as I really haven't read everything that's been posted on this topic..
I find it 'much to do about nothing'....but hey that's just me....

Rock  8)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 17, 2020, 02:15:25 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on May 17, 2020, 10:42:53 AM
Many a topic may had been over discussed before in past topics or threads .
some get more members involved and some just a few..

but considering the concerns over Covid 19, that could be if its for real or if  its part of some type of  much more serious side of a NWO plot. this seems what is one of the most concerning issues at the present time.
My problem with the idea of 5G being linked to CoViD-19 (besides lack of evidences) is that it doesn't explain how cases appear on areas with no 5G and how do people get better if 5G is still active.

Do people get weaker because of 5G?
Maybe, maybe not, but we need studies to know that, not sensationalist titles created to spread fear (one of the things George Orwell spoke about).
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 18, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 17, 2020, 02:15:25 PM
My problem with the idea of 5G being linked to CoViD-19 (besides lack of evidences) is that it doesn't explain how cases appear on areas with no 5G and how do people get better if 5G is still active.

Do people get weaker because of 5G?
Maybe, maybe not, but we need studies to know that, not sensationalist titles created to spread fear (one of the things George Orwell spoke about).

If someone is shot by a bullet, it is a consequence of been targeted by the device firing the bullet , and the device having a trigger that another releases to cause the bullet to travel in a given direction.

Thus try to imagine the 60 ghz as a bullet been targeted from satellites and been fired by others at a specific location.
The duration of that spread of 60 ghz can be varied, fired multiple times or not fired at all.

Those with weakest immune systems will be hit hardest by the 60 ghz, those with good immune systems ( shield) will not be hit.

The 60 ghz is altering the magnetic monopole of oxygen and it thus becomes repelled by the iron based haemoglobin, the strong immune system people will repel this opposite pole oxygen, whilst the weak immune systems will not be able to fend it off.

The condition will lead to it been said to be caused by a virus.


This is not about spreading fear, that is the reason for the usage of 60 ghz to create fear, this is about debating what is occurring and getting to the truth, if you are in fear of the truth, then the truth will cause You fear.

https://www.leedskalnin.com/
kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 18, 2020, 01:01:45 PM
Looks what could be a very  interesting link Kevin...

From the man who built Coral Castle in Florida.

Do you believe that he may had cracked a form of Antigravity ?


and if his theories are correct... How do you believe that he became aware of it ?

Just his pure built in abilities to learn and figure it out or has obtain this info from some other source..
that some may consider other than from this planet..

After a quick browse so far... Have you any views on what he describes in how magetism / electricity may work..
in relation to what he claimd we have been taught from our schools education system..

QuoteEducation
You know we receive an education in the schools from books.  All those books that people became educated from twenty-five years ago, are wrong now, and those that are good now, will be wrong again twenty-five years from now.  So if they are wrong then, they are also wrong now, and the one who is educated from the wrong books is not educated, he is misled.  All books that are written are wrong, the one who is not educated cannot write a book and the one who is educated, is really not educated but he is misled and the one who is misled cannot write a book which is correct.

The misleading began when our distant ancestors began to teach their descendants.  You know they knew nothing but they passed their knowledge of nothing to the coming generations and it went so innocently that nobody noticed it.  That is why we are not educated.

Now I will tell you what education is according to my reasoning.  An educated person is one whose senses are refined.  We are born as brutes, we remain and die as the same if we do not become polished.  But all senses do not take polish.  Some are to coarse to take it.  The main base of education is one's "self-respect".  Any one lacking self-respect cannot be educated.  The main bases of self-respect is the willingness to learn, to do only the things that are good and right, to believe only in the things that can be proved, to possess appreciation and self control.

Now, if you lack willingness to learn, you will remain as a brute and if you do things that are not good and right, you will be a low person, and if you believe in things that cannot be proved, any feeble  minded person can lead you, and if you lack appreciation, it takes away the incentive for good doing and if you lack self control you will never know the limit.
So all those lacking these characteristics in their makeup are not educated.

       Ed Leedskalnin, 1936.


Quote

  Millions of people all over the world are being fooled by the non-existing electrons



QuoteI think the Radium and Uranium were built up inside the earth with high pressure, and heat, while the North and South pole individual magnets were circulating through the earth.  During the time the Radium and Uranium were inside the earth they absorbed more of the individual North and South pole magnets than they normally could hold, and so now while they are on top of the earth they let the magnets go so they can become normal again.

QuoteGravity


Gravitation must be caused by the matter in the middle of the earth, and more concentrated than Uranium.  When Uranium atoms burst they release the North and South pole individual magnets that held the atom together, then the magnets scatter all around, they can only pass from the middle to the outside.  When the North and South pole magnets are running alongside each other and in the same direction, they have no attraction for the other kind.  They only attract if they are running one kind against the other kind.  When the magnets are running out of the middle of the earth, as soon as they meet an object they attract it, on account of the fact that in any object there is both kinds of magnets in it.  It can be seen by rubbing hard rubber or glass until they get hot., then they will attract sand, iron filings, salt, and other things.  To see how it functions, move a salt crystal a little, if it happens to get on a different magnet pole, then it will jump away.  Another way is to rub hard rubber until it gets hot, then it will be a temporary magnet.  The difference between the rubber magnet and the steel magnet is both North and South poles are in the same side of the rubber and the magnet poles are small and there are many of them close together, but the surplus magnets in the circulating magnet that was put in it.  Attract the iron filings with the rubber magnet, then approach with the steel magnet, Change the poles, then you will see some of the filings jump away.  This means the steel magnet changed the magnet poles in the iron filings, and so they jumped away
.


https://www.leedskalnin.com/


Quote from: kevin on May 18, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
If someone is shot by a bullet, it is a consequence of been targeted by the device firing the bullet , and the device having a trigger that another releases to cause the bullet to travel in a given direction.

Thus try to imagine the 60 ghz as a bullet been targeted from satellites and been fired by others at a specific location.
The duration of that spread of 60 ghz can be varied, fired multiple times or not fired at all.

Those with weakest immune systems will be hit hardest by the 60 ghz, those with good immune systems ( shield) will not be hit.

The 60 ghz is altering the magnetic monopole of oxygen and it thus becomes repelled by the iron based haemoglobin, the strong immune system people will repel this opposite pole oxygen, whilst the weak immune systems will not be able to fend it off.

The condition will lead to it been said to be caused by a virus.


This is not about spreading fear, that is the reason for the usage of 60 ghz to create fear, this is about debating what is occurring and getting to the truth, if you are in fear of the truth, then the truth will cause You fear.

https://www.leedskalnin.com/
kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 18, 2020, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 18, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
If someone is shot by a bullet, it is a consequence of been targeted by the device firing the bullet , and the device having a trigger that another releases to cause the bullet to travel in a given direction.

Thus try to imagine the 60 ghz as a bullet been targeted from satellites and been fired by others at a specific location.
The duration of that spread of 60 ghz can be varied, fired multiple times or not fired at all.

Those with weakest immune systems will be hit hardest by the 60 ghz, those with good immune systems ( shield) will not be hit.

The 60 ghz is altering the magnetic monopole of oxygen and it thus becomes repelled by the iron based haemoglobin, the strong immune system people will repel this opposite pole oxygen, whilst the weak immune systems will not be able to fend it off.

The condition will lead to it been said to be caused by a virus.


This is not about spreading fear, that is the reason for the usage of 60 ghz to create fear, this is about debating what is occurring and getting to the truth, if you are in fear of the truth, then the truth will cause You fear.

https://www.leedskalnin.com/
kevin

How does your immune system protect you from a change in atomic state? This is like suggesting some people in the Hiroshima blast radius were 100% immune to the effects of radiation. I don't see this being a possibility unless similarly it has something to do with RADIUS OF EFFECT which we have already been over many times.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 18, 2020, 03:04:44 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/children-with-kawasaki-disease-often-not-testing-positive-for-covid-chief-scientist-of-who-reveals/ar-BB14dhPp?MSCC=1589810435&ocid=spartandhp

Maybe instead of a link to some flu virus it is the consequence of something else, something like 60 ghz transmissions????/

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 18, 2020, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 18, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
Thus try to imagine the 60 ghz as a bullet been targeted from satellites and been fired by others at a specific location.
That would be a waste of energy, as most of the energy in the 60 GHz beam would be absorbed by the Oxygen in the atmosphere, but let's keep on imagining. :)

QuoteThe duration of that spread of 60 ghz can be varied, fired multiple times or not fired at all.

Those with weakest immune systems will be hit hardest by the 60 ghz, those with good immune systems ( shield) will not be hit.

The 60 ghz is altering the magnetic monopole of oxygen and it thus becomes repelled by the iron based haemoglobin, the strong immune system people will repel this opposite pole oxygen, whilst the weak immune systems will not be able to fend it off.
The Oxygen that is altered in that way stays like that forever?
If it doesn't, how long does it remain like that?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 19, 2020, 08:02:00 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 18, 2020, 09:16:58 PM
That would be a waste of energy, as most of the energy in the 60 GHz beam would be absorbed by the Oxygen in the atmosphere, but let's keep on imagining. :)
The Oxygen that is altered in that way stays like that forever?
If it doesn't, how long does it remain like that?

Why are the clouds in the sky??????

because of attraction and repulsion zones, when one overloads it causes a discharge we call lightening.

I used to teach welding, and we used huge amounts of argon, one week at the other end of the factory they were digging out foundations for a new heavy machine, the argon filled the foundations and nearly killed two workers, I have never forgot how different elements LAYER at different altitudes.

There are more things in heaven and earth than meets the eyes Armap.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 19, 2020, 01:06:19 PM
I want to add something basic about oxygen.

It is negatively charged.
hydrogen is positively charged.
thus they are attracted together to bond into H2O.

Carbon is positively charged so oxygen is attracted to bond into carbon dioxide.

Plants breath carbon dioxide, we breath oxygen.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/iron-atom

If You read through the above link You may begin to understand in magnetic terms how oxygen is coupled with the four iron atoms that bond to make haemoglobin, and then try to consider what would occur if the oxygen magnetic direction was changed and how it would be repelled from iron.

Then think of 60 ghz acting to reverse the magnetic direction of oxygen.


Kevin



Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: astr0144 on May 19, 2020, 01:28:22 PM
I do not have very much Chemistry or Electrical background ..

but I am familar with parts here and there... and can be reminded and can recall some of it when I read some ref to it..
rather than being able to fully memorize or recite it on the spot.

Its amazing that Atoms were only suggested since the 1800s and that electrons were suggested only as far back as in 1897 by JJ Thomson.

From I think I recall all Atoms are said to have Electrons that go around or orbit the atoms nucleus...protons / neutrons.
and different atoms have variable ammount of photons/ neutrons /electrons.   and can gain or lose elections.. that can alter their state or what they become or combine with. and I assume  alter its mass / shells / energy levels, vibration etc .
and maybe also SPIN effect...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom

Some images as a reminder how Atoms can be.... from just Electron to elements that have atoms with more or several electrons...   I think that maybe the electrons an atom has maybe the heavier or more dense that it is..

such as from one atom for the likes of Hydrogen that has just one  proton and just one  electron to the heavy type atoms  like as Uranium that can have 92   ... (A uranium atom has 92 protons and 92 electrons).

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.BIXnFuyNua0ldXLJJyTfZgHaI6?pid=Api&rs=1)

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.Yj_9FKJELFi2eAKvTs_OKwAAAA?w=203&h=193&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)

QuoteThe electron is a subatomic particle, symbol e− orβ−
, whose electric charge is negative one elementary charge.[9] Electrons belong to the first generation of the lepton particle family,[10] and are generally thought to be elementary particles because they have no known components or substructure.[1] The electron has a mass that is approximately 1/1836 that of the proton.[11] Quantum mechanical properties of the electron include an intrinsic angular momentum (spin) of a half-integer value, expressed in units of the reduced Planck constant, ħ. Being fermions, no two electrons can occupy the same quantum state, in accordance with the Pauli exclusion principle.[10] Like all elementary particles, electrons exhibit properties of both particles and waves: they can collide with other particles and can be diffracted like light. The wave properties of electrons are easier to observe with experiments than those of other particles like neutrons and protons because electrons have a lower mass and hence a longer de Broglie wavelength for a given energy.


Electrons play an essential role in numerous physical phenomena, such as electricity, magnetism, chemistry and thermal conductivity, and they also participate in gravitational, electromagnetic and weak interactions.[12] Since an electron has charge, it has a surrounding electric field, and if that electron is moving relative to an observer, said observer will observe it to generate a magnetic field. Electromagnetic fields produced from other sources will affect the motion of an electron according to the Lorentz force law. Electrons radiate or absorb energy in the form of photons when they are accelerated. Laboratory instruments are capable of trapping individual electrons as well as electron plasma by the use of electromagnetic fields. Special telescopes can detect electron plasma in outer space. Electrons are involved in many applications such as electronics, welding, cathode ray tubes, electron microscopes, radiation therapy, lasers, gaseous ionization detectors and particle accelerators.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron



Quoteatomic charge. [ə′täm·ik ′chärj] (atomic physics) The electric charge of an ion, equal to the number of electrons the atom has gained or lost in its ionization multiplied by the charge on one electron.

which I assume determines if they are positively or negatively charged.  IF so...

In one one of your other articles you posted however.. from https://www.leedskalnin.com/

who seems to be saying that Electrons do not exist.
see  :  The Individual Magnet VS. The Electron.
Quote
  Millions of people all over the world are being fooled by the non-existing electrons
.

I May have have misunderstood his comment..or not fully read the full details that may later explain diffeent.. but I thought that Id raise the point...

Is he just making some statement that later refers to how Atoms came about...or just referring that statement to in terms of magetism or in general ..

I just wanted to ask if you had any view on that... as they both would seem to contradict each other.

Although its the 1st time that I have been made aware of an alternative theory.

Quote
I want to add something basic about oxygen.

It is negatively charged.
hydrogen is positively charged.
thus they are attracted together to bond into H2O.

Carbon is positively charged so oxygen is attracted to bond into carbon dioxide.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 19, 2020, 08:57:04 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 19, 2020, 08:02:00 AM
Why are the clouds in the sky??????
Because their density makes them float in the air or because the winds that caused them keep the water droplets or ice crystals from falling.

Quotebecause of attraction and repulsion zones, when one overloads it causes a discharge we call lightening.
Or vertical winds inside cumulonimbus clouds create a kind of Van de Graaff generator that creates different polarities at the bottom and top of the clouds.
(How those attraction and repulsion zones appear?)

QuoteI used to teach welding, and we used huge amounts of argon, one week at the other end of the factory they were digging out foundations for a new heavy machine, the argon filled the foundations and nearly killed two workers, I have never forgot how different elements LAYER at different altitudes.
Different densities do that.

QuoteThere are more things in heaven and earth than meets the eyes Armap.
That's true.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 19, 2020, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 19, 2020, 01:06:19 PM
I want to add something basic about oxygen.

It is negatively charged.
hydrogen is positively charged.
thus they are attracted together to bond into H2O.

Carbon is positively charged so oxygen is attracted to bond into carbon dioxide.
If they are negatively or positively charged then they are ions, not atoms, so I suppose you mean something else, not "negatively charged". Could it be the "oxidation state"? That would work as you say, as Oxygen has an oxidation state of -2, Hydrogen +1 and Carbon +/- 4 and 2, according to my old periodic table.

QuotePlants breath carbon dioxide, we breath oxygen.
With that I agree. :)

Quotehttps://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/iron-atom

If You read through the above link You may begin to understand in magnetic terms how oxygen is coupled with the four iron atoms that bond to make haemoglobin, and then try to consider what would occur if the oxygen magnetic direction was changed and how it would be repelled from iron.
What are you calling "magnetic direction"? ???
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 21, 2020, 12:52:57 AM
I contacted a Physical & Theoretical Chemistry professor that studies spin chemistry, the influence of spin in atoms and electrons in the way chemical reactions happen, and asked him two things:
a) Is it possible for a change in spin to prevent a chemical reaction from happening?
b) If the answer is yes, does it happen with Oxygen in haemoglobin?

His answer was:
QuoteChemical transformations that proceed through short-lived intermediates known as radical pairs can sometimes be affected by weak electromagnetic fields in such a way that the yields of reaction products are changed. The 60 GHz electromagnetic fields used by 5G are too high in frequency and too low in intensity to affect radical pair reactions. The binding of oxygen to haemoglobin is not  a radical pair reaction. I would be astonished if it could reliably be shown that 5G had any effect on oxygen transport in the blood.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 21, 2020, 03:43:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4pxw4tYeCU


:P
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 22, 2020, 02:58:29 PM
https://cetv.one/programs/cal-cetv-ac1bb8

There is a legal document available at the end of that video to send to your local representative making them PERSONALLY responsible for any harm caused by 5g.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 22, 2020, 09:19:37 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 22, 2020, 02:58:29 PM
https://cetv.one/programs/cal-cetv-ac1bb8

There is a legal document available at the end of that video to send to your local representative making them PERSONALLY responsible for any harm caused by 5g.
I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt that document has any legal value to make them responsible for any harm.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 27, 2020, 07:08:18 AM
https://stop5g.cz/us/5g-60ghz-wireless-network-oxygen-absorption-unable-to-breath/?fbclid=IwAR3lvnLM01y0RjQWAdB8ESTUQIm7B9Ano_BeK_lzrN38rPqk5gRGK8CD13Y

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: kevin on May 27, 2020, 07:13:44 AM
https://stop5g.cz/us/study-on-correlation-5g-coronavirus-more-evidence-of-the-fake-plannedemic/

Kevin
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 27, 2020, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: kevin on May 27, 2020, 07:08:18 AM
https://stop5g.cz/us/5g-60ghz-wireless-network-oxygen-absorption-unable-to-breath/?fbclid=IwAR3lvnLM01y0RjQWAdB8ESTUQIm7B9Ano_BeK_lzrN38rPqk5gRGK8CD13Y

Kevin
This is supposed to be a discussion forum, not a place where you drop links without making any comment about what's in that link, so please add some text explaining what we can find in the link.

PS: it's also possible that some people cannot access some sites, as corporate firewalls can block access to specific sites, so a description is always the best option.
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 28, 2020, 02:07:19 AM
After a lot of digging I think Kevin does have a valid point that 60Ghz does cause varying degrees of harm to any biological entity that uses oxygen. The harm may not be directly from the radiation but the radiation may "trigger" pre-existing ailments. I do NOT think it is causing COVID-19 symptoms. I think it may be assisting the virus but not solely responsible for what is happening. On another note... This 60Ghz radiation has an extremely limited range. It is NOT beamed from satellites. Satellites mostly use Ku band frequencies. The atmosphere would absorb 60Ghz, therefore the only place it is going to be streamed from is a tower. 
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 28, 2020, 03:23:02 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997488/

I know nothing about this subject, but after reading the above article, I assume that 60ghz has no effect on the human body.

From the article:

Conclusions

The findings from the present study suggest that exposure of HCE-T and SRA01/04 cells to millimeter-wavelength radiation at 60 GHz for 24 h has no significant effect on MN frequency, single-strand breaks in the DNA, or Hsp expression. In conclusion, the exposure of cells to millimeter-wavelength radiation at 60 GHz does not seem to have adverse effects on the genotoxicity or Hsp expression of cultured HCE-T and SRA01/04 cells using our specific experimental conditions, although the possible effects of other frequencies require further study.

Tell me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 28, 2020, 05:38:16 AM
QuoteTell me if I'm wrong

It seems you could go wither way much like the global warming shenanigans...

Quote1. Introduction Wireless communications have been expanding globally at an
exponential rate. The latest imbedded version of mobile networking technology is called4G(fourth generation),and the next version(called 5G- fifth generation) is in the early implementation stage. Neither 4G nor 5G have been tested for safety in credible real-life scenarios. Alarmingly, many of the studies conducted in more benign environments show harmful effects from this radiation. The present article overviews the medical and biological studies that have been performed to date relative to effects from wireless radiation, and shows why these studies are deficient relative to safety. However, even in the absence of the missing real-life components such as toxic chemicals and biotoxins (which tend to exacerbate the adverse effects of the wireless radiation), the literature shows there is much valid reason for concern about potential adverse health effects from both 4G and 5G technology. The studies on wireless radiation health effects reported in the literature should be viewed as extremely conservative, substantially underestimating the adverse impacts of this new technology.
https://iervn.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/adverse-health-effects-of-5g-mobile-networking-technology-under-real-life-conditions.pdf (https://iervn.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/adverse-health-effects-of-5g-mobile-networking-technology-under-real-life-conditions.pdf)

Like the old multiple choice questions... Farmer A) says.... Farmer B) says... Which is right?
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 28, 2020, 11:24:55 AM
Ellirium113 , what i meant by 'tell me I'm wrong' was my conclusion from reading the article that 60ghz had no effect on the human body. I would hope someone else would read the article and then 'tell me I'm wrong'.

:P

Rock  8)
Title: Re: The Truth About 5G
Post by: ArMaP on May 28, 2020, 08:44:32 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 28, 2020, 03:23:02 AM
Tell me if I'm wrong
I think you're right, but they may not be, as that study used a radiation at 1 mW/cm2, the limit antennas are subjected to. Cell phones reach a much higher value, close to 50 mW/cm2 when used right next to the head.