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Title: The 2020 American election
Post by: petrus4 on November 04, 2020, 06:39:15 PM
From what I am seeing on YouTube and 4chan about the election so far, I have assumed two basic premises.

a}  Trump is going to claim that any election result favouring Biden is fraudulent, and will contest it.

b}  The Left seem to be entirely unwilling to accept any possibility of a Trump victory, whether it is fraudulent or not.

I don't know where America is going to go from here, but I had assumed that the historical pattern would usually mean war.  Both sides are apparently mutually antagonistic and view each other as the enemy.

I am torn.  On the one hand, I don't believe that Trump has any interest in truly doing what is necessary to repair the civil and economic infrastructure of the country, and said infrastructure will most likely not survive another four years without executive attention.  On the other hand, I am exceedingly tired of the level of viciousness and self-righteousness which I have consistently seen from the Left from the last ten years on Reddit.

I do not want the Left to be given any reason to view their ideology as legitimate, because doing so will only increase their vindictiveness, and their censorship and dismissal of anyone who disagrees with them.  The Left are currently advancing the idea that their position is the correct mainstream default, and that anyone who dissents is simply part of a hateful, deviant minority. 

I want to see this narrative disrupted, and I am gravely concerned that a Biden victory would mean the opposite; that it would be strengthened and reinforced.  There is a similar group of self-righteous hypocrites in Australia, who are publically represented by the YouTube channel called, "friendlyjordies."  A Biden victory in America would likely increase that group's sense of self-justification as well, and therefore have negative implications for Australia.

It may be that civil war is unavoidable; and possibly even necessary.  What do the rest of you think?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 04, 2020, 09:35:24 PM
We've been here before, remember Bush vs Gore? Eventually one will prevail. If Biden wins and it goes to the Supreme Court as it did before. There it is a toss up but favors Trump. If that's the case, the left will throw a hissy fit. I really don't see a civil war. Been there done that. It'll work it's way out.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 04, 2020, 11:19:13 PM
Quotea}  Trump is going to claim that any election result favouring Biden is fraudulent, and will contest it.
Rightfully so considering all the mail in ballots that were fraudulent ALREADY found before the election. Corporations like Facebook & Google also colluding with Democrats... If the Russians do it = BAD if Corporations do it = FINE. Democrats have stated they would do anything it takes.

QuoteI am torn.  On the one hand, I don't believe that Trump has any interest in truly doing what is necessary to repair the civil and economic infrastructure of the country, and said infrastructure will most likely not survive another four years without executive attention.  On the other hand, I am exceedingly tired of the level of viciousness and self-righteousness which I have consistently seen from the Left from the last ten years on Reddit.
Trump alone is powerless to to fix this. This is a function of parliment to fix however due to the large amount of lobbyists in govt. office and corporate influence it makes it nearly impossible to to get laws passed that can change things to the better. Hopefully this will help:
Executive Order on Creating Schedule F In The Excepted Service
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/ (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 05, 2020, 12:56:02 AM
I don't think a civil war will erupt from this situation, even if it gets worse, people in the US are too selfish and lazy to do something like that.

Yes, they may break and burn a few things, but they will get tired soon.

As for the victory claims when there was many votes to be counted it only makes the US even more of a joke for someone looking at this from the outside.

The US is losing its already diminished credibility with this whole situation. If they stopped acting like politicians in a Third World country they could really do something about it.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 05, 2020, 12:58:03 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 04, 2020, 11:19:13 PM
Executive Order on Creating Schedule F In The Excepted Service
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/ (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/)
Could you explain to those that don't have the slightest idea of what a "schedule F" is what it all means?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 05, 2020, 01:37:49 AM
In a nutshell it restores the ability to investigate and lawfully act on corrupt government officials and prevent those sorts of people from being put into those positions through various checks and balances. He's pulled the plug to let the swamp drain.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 05, 2020, 12:29:52 PM
Fairfax Virginia has switched 100,000 votes from Trump to Biden stating a "clerical error"

Wisconsin suddenly discovers over 112k Biden ballots between 3:30 am and 4:30 am

Nevada has decided they won't have all vote counts in until Thursday

Michigan has gained 138.339 ballots for Biden since they stopped counting last night. A whopping zero for Trump

6 states trump has sizable leads, all six states decided to stop counting ballots on election night (unheard of) and they all have blue strong holds

Jack from Twitter deletes the current sitting presidents tweet on election night. Glaringly obvious election interference

LeeJoe, who was running for district 16 senate seat in Idaho and stated so on his account profile, gets his account deleted from Facebook not once but twice. Another example of a glaringly obvious election interference.

North Carolina has 100% of precincts counted with Trump in the clear lead and it's not being called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zb-uzUaCmY

USPS 'whistleblower' tells Project Veritas he was ordered to backdate late mail-in ballots in Michigan
QuoteAn anonymous tipster with the Postal Service in Michigan has alleged his supervisor ordered mail carriers to backdate ballots mailed too late to be counted, Project Veritas revealed - and the service is reportedly investigating.
The self-professed mail carrier - whose voice and identity have been disguised by the conservative muckraking operation - claimed he and his colleagues were "issued a directive" to "collect any ballots we find in mailboxes," collection boxes, and "outgoing mail in general" on Wednesday and "separate them at the end of the day so that they could hand stamp them with the previous day's date" in an interview with Project Veritas posted on Wednesday night.
https://www.rt.com/usa/505653-project-veritas-whistleblower-mailin-ballots/ (https://www.rt.com/usa/505653-project-veritas-whistleblower-mailin-ballots/)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 05, 2020, 01:48:34 PM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 05, 2020, 01:37:49 AM
In a nutshell it restores the ability to investigate and lawfully act on corrupt government officials and prevent those sorts of people from being put into those positions through various checks and balances.
Restores? When was it removed?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 05, 2020, 11:10:00 PM
Maybe poor choice of wording... perhaps I should have said enables.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 06, 2020, 06:58:19 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on November 04, 2020, 06:39:15 PM
From what I am seeing on YouTube and 4chan about the election so far, I have assumed two basic premises.

a}  Trump is going to claim that any election result favouring Biden is fraudulent, and will contest it.

b}  The Left seem to be entirely unwilling to accept any possibility of a Trump victory, whether it is fraudulent or not.

I don't know where America is going to go from here, but I had assumed that the historical pattern would usually mean war.  Both sides are apparently mutually antagonistic and view each other as the enemy.

I am torn.  On the one hand, I don't believe that Trump has any interest in truly doing what is necessary to repair the civil and economic infrastructure of the country, and said infrastructure will most likely not survive another four years without executive attention.  On the other hand, I am exceedingly tired of the level of viciousness and self-righteousness which I have consistently seen from the Left from the last ten years on Reddit.

I do not want the Left to be given any reason to view their ideology as legitimate, because doing so will only increase their vindictiveness, and their censorship and dismissal of anyone who disagrees with them.  The Left are currently advancing the idea that their position is the correct mainstream default, and that anyone who dissents is simply part of a hateful, deviant minority. 

I want to see this narrative disrupted, and I am gravely concerned that a Biden victory would mean the opposite; that it would be strengthened and reinforced.  There is a similar group of self-righteous hypocrites in Australia, who are publically represented by the YouTube channel called, "friendlyjordies."  A Biden victory in America would likely increase that group's sense of self-justification as well, and therefore have negative implications for Australia.

It may be that civil war is unavoidable; and possibly even necessary.  What do the rest of you think?

hey here a COUP of (https://www.eatright.org/-/media/eatrightimages/cup-of-coffee_528814833.jpg?h=450&w=600&la=en&hash=81E963617E8D0BD97293703CCAE02C9A679EE01E) and yes im from Brazil for who asked. this election will be remembered as the las bullet on democracy.

i miss Z and his awareness... the question i ask... does it make sense to you? is it a real vote democratic election?

cause for the rest of the world it is prob a joke
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 06, 2020, 07:27:36 AM
that means to me you really want a global organization, it says to me you really want go to space. i don't think we prepared, i think we will be crudhed out there, we not deserve it. human is so much corrupted we deserve to be here one more cicle.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 06, 2020, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 06, 2020, 06:58:19 AM
is it a real vote democratic election?
The system used in the US is not really that democratic, as the people do not elect the president, and what they choose may not even be the final result, as those electoral college votes are not guaranteed to represent the opinion of the people that elected them.
If I'm not mistaken, it's even possible that someone that didn't run for president to be elected. It would be difficult to happen, but if all electoral colleges elements decided to vote on, for example, Kim Kardashian, they could elect her as the new US president.

Yes, it's a ridiculous system.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 07, 2020, 12:02:12 PM
The system is designed to level out the playing field. Remember it's called the United States. States with larger populations would have a distinct advantage if it was a popular vote. Our system is designed to give states with a lower population a fighting chance. States, States, States!

It's not perfect but it is what it is.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 07, 2020, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 07, 2020, 12:02:12 PM
Our system is designed to give states with a lower population a fighting chance.
Do all states get the same number of electoral voters?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 08, 2020, 12:52:28 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 07, 2020, 01:52:16 PM
Do all states get the same number of electoral voters?

No, more population gets you more votes. Example: Georgia has 16 and Florida has 29.

"Electoral votes, out of 538, allocated to each state and the District of Columbia for presidential elections held in 2012, 2016 and 2020, based on congressional representation, which depends on population data from the 2010 Census."
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 08, 2020, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 08, 2020, 12:52:28 PM
No, more population gets you more votes. Example: Georgia has 16 and Florida has 29.

"Electoral votes, out of 538, allocated to each state and the District of Columbia for presidential elections held in 2012, 2016 and 2020, based on congressional representation, which depends on population data from the 2010 Census."
OK.

Thanks for the explanation. :)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Pimander on November 09, 2020, 04:30:21 PM
I can't believe what I'm seeing.  Trump told his supporters not to vote early or post their votes in.  Now he is acting surprised that most of those votes were for Biden.   ::)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 09, 2020, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: Pimander on November 09, 2020, 04:30:21 PM
I can't believe what I'm seeing.  Trump told his supporters not to vote early or post their votes in.  Now he is acting surprised that most of those votes were for Biden.   ::)

No he said If you mail your vote in, show up to the polling station and check to see if they had posted it. If not then vote in person.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 10, 2020, 01:18:39 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 09, 2020, 09:49:10 PM
No he said If you mail your vote in, show up to the polling station and check to see if they had posted it.
What would be the point in voting by mail? ???
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: petrus4 on November 10, 2020, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 07, 2020, 12:02:12 PM
States with larger populations would have a distinct advantage if it was a popular vote. Our system is designed to give states with a lower population a fighting chance. States, States, States!

Which neatly explains why the Marxist AK-47 demographic in Portland have been talking about "fixing," the electoral college. 

(https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/PSOXP3XXFZFL3ERWTLIOFEOA34.jpg)

Marxist doctrine calls for having the majority within the cult, so that said majority can then be used to successfully bludgeon everyone else into compliance.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 10, 2020, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 10, 2020, 01:18:39 AM
What would be the point in voting by mail? ???

Because of Covid-19, Some Americans are lazy, and it's an easy way of stuffing the ballot box to appear a certain candidate has won. In a nutshell, it's called FRAUD!...
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 10, 2020, 08:55:34 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 10, 2020, 02:41:12 PM
Because of Covid-19, Some Americans are lazy, and it's an easy way of stuffing the ballot box to appear a certain candidate has won.
Only a certain candidate could do it? ???

QuoteIn a nutshell, it's called FRAUD!...
Only if it happens.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 11, 2020, 01:49:39 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 10, 2020, 08:55:34 PM
Only a certain candidate could do it? ???
Only if it happens.

No any candidate could.

And you obviously don't know anything about American politicians.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 12, 2020, 12:18:04 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 11, 2020, 01:49:39 AM
And you obviously don't know anything about American politicians.
Maybe, maybe not, I never tested my knowledge on American politicians. But it's very likely that I would get a very low grade, as it's a topic I find boring, like a bad sitcom.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 12, 2020, 02:50:31 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 12, 2020, 12:18:04 AM
Maybe, maybe not, I never tested my knowledge on American politicians. But it's very likely that I would get a very low grade, as it's a topic I find boring, like a bad sitcom.

Good people turn bad when power is involved. That's why I always vote against someone who's been in power more than two terms. At lest locally.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 13, 2020, 02:13:02 AM
Now we'll see if cancel culture can cancel a presidency. 100% effort from the lefties even as lawsuits are raging and some being won, the denial is still in full throttle on the runaway cancel culture engine. 
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 14, 2020, 01:50:30 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 13, 2020, 02:13:02 AM
Now we'll see if cancel culture can cancel a presidency. 100% effort from the lefties even as lawsuits are raging and some being won, the denial is still in full throttle on the runaway cancel culture engine.
What's that "cancel culture"? ???
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 14, 2020, 06:38:14 AM
It's where you post your opinion and people that don't like it will will call you racist, nazi etc. and try to destroy your life because you have the WRONG opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-z-P4Agik
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 14, 2020, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 14, 2020, 06:38:14 AM
It's where you post your opinion and people that don't like it will will call you racist, nazi etc. and try to destroy your life because you have the WRONG opinion.

Thanks for the explanation.

I just ignore those people, so I didn't know it was a "thing".  :)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 18, 2020, 11:01:48 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 14, 2020, 06:38:14 AM
... because you have the WRONG opinion.


WRONG opinion AKA "Thoughtcrime"

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a0/0b/01/a00b015c06b6f4c313cd3d2470ba2290.jpg)

Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 18, 2020, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 14, 2020, 03:12:09 PM
Thanks for the explanation.

I just ignore those people, so I didn't know it was a "thing".  :)

Did you ever read George Orwell's 1984?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 18, 2020, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 14, 2020, 01:50:30 AM
What's that "cancel culture"? ???

"cancel culture" AKA Thought Police...

(https://parentology.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/parentology-definitions-cancel-culture.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 01:02:49 AM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 18, 2020, 11:02:35 AM
Did you ever read George Orwell's 1984?
I did, but I didn't like it much.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:19:34 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 01:02:49 AM
I did, but I didn't like it much.

Me neither. Its a masterpiece. Show where we at... plus brave new world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGuKyBimFvM

Did You ever read Aldous Huxley"s Brave New World?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 01:24:51 AM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:19:34 AM
Me neither. Its a masterpiece. Show where we at... plus brave new world
When I say I didn't like it I wasn't talking about the story, I was talking about the way it was written.

To me, it's far from a masterpiece or even a very good book.

QuoteDid You ever read Aldous Huxley"s Brave New World?
No, and I don't intend to, as it sounds boring.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:29:22 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 01:24:51 AM

No, and I don't intend to, as it sounds boring.

reality is boring. true!
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:34:20 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 14, 2020, 01:50:30 AM
What's that "cancel culture"? ???

What are you in the political spectrum? liberal? conservative? center? half way the bird? intrigued...



Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:43:49 AM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:34:20 AM
What are you in the political spectrum? liberal? conservative? center? half way the bird? intrigued...

is the lockdown in Portugal cool? Are you afraid to catch the cold? how is the economy? Do you think ubi is the solution? will you take the vaccine? which blend you want to take if yes?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:50:34 AM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:43:49 AM
is the lockdown in Portugal cool? Are you afraid to catch the cold? how is the economy? Do you think ubi is the solution? will you take the vaccine? which blend you want to take if yes?

Are you informed about klaus from wmf and the great reset? If yes, do you think its a ctheory? Should we be concerned or should we embrace it?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:52:38 AM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:50:34 AM
Are you informed about klaus from wmf and the great reset? If yes, do you think its a ctheory? Should we be concerned or should we embrace it?

last question... what kind of boots you like in Europe?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 02:13:48 AM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 01:29:22 AM
reality is boring. true!
That's why I prefer to read fiction.

QuoteWhat are you in the political spectrum? liberal? conservative? center? half way the bird? intrigued...
I prefer not to say.

Quoteis the lockdown in Portugal cool? Are you afraid to catch the cold? how is the economy? Do you think ubi is the solution? will you take the vaccine? which blend you want to take if yes?
I don't know what you mean by "cool" in such a situation.
No, I'm not afraid of catching the cold, the flue or CoViD-19.
The economy is not good. The lockdown in March, April and May created more unemployment, and even with some support programs from the government it's hard for the companies to pay the salaries.
What's "ubi"? ???
As for the vaccine, maybe I will, maybe not, things are still not clear about it.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
I don't understand what you mean by "which blend".

QuoteAre you informed about klaus from wmf and the great reset? If yes, do you think its a ctheory? Should we be concerned or should we embrace it?
No.

Quotelast question... what kind of boots you like in Europe?
Boots? ???
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 02:34:25 AM
QuoteI prefer not to say.

why?

QuoteI don't know what you mean by "cool" in such a situation.

what is your position. What you think about covid-19

QuoteNo, I'm not afraid of catching the cold, the flue or CoViD-19.

you should not.

QuoteThe economy is not good. The lockdown in March, April and May created more unemployment, and even with some support programs from the government it's hard for the companies to pay the salaries.

i c. But why people so scaried? Its like msm saying: Aliens are comming... you should be afraid!

QuoteWhat's "ubi"? ???

universal basic income.

QuoteAs for the vaccine, maybe I will, maybe not, things are still not clear about it.

def not.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

QuoteI don't understand what you mean by "which blend".

its not only one vac in the play... tere are russians, chineses, etc...

QuoteNo.

a person like you should.

https://www.weforum.org/ (https://www.weforum.org/)

QuoteBoots? ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGuKyBimFvM

2 min mark
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 03:13:40 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 02:13:48 AM

Boots? ???

actually, 1 min 40 sec is where the boots are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGuKyBimFvM
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 03:49:42 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 02:13:48 AM

No.


idk what you mean by no but the great reset seems like an agenda:

(https://i.imgur.com/BMpLj6T.jpg)

https://www.weforum.org/

ps this is a today ss in wonderland
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 19, 2020, 04:51:38 AM
An elite-led 'Great Reset' post-Covid? No, what we need first is to get rid of the globalist approach that got us into this mess
QuoteOn the surface, this might appear reasonable. After all, the challenges of the post-Covid world are certainly going to be huge. The economic fallout of the global lockdown, never mind the social consequences of mass unemployment and global poverty, will be unprecedented in world history.

However, the "Great Reset" is sophistry and dishonesty on an unprecedented level. Who is responsible, it may be asked, for creating yesterday's problematic 'normal' to which we will supposedly never return? 

Of course, these difficulties have nothing to do with the billionaires, political leaders, captains of industry and top regulators who swan around Davos each year, pontificating over oysters and champagne about the world's problems, from which they benefit most.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507108-great-reset-wef-globalist/ (https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507108-great-reset-wef-globalist/)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: petrus4 on November 19, 2020, 07:05:02 AM
Ah, the Great Reset.  Otherwise known as probably the single greatest incentive to commit suicide that I've ever encountered; and I say that as someone who has both read the Protocols, and knows about the Monarch mind control program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3GmCokybo

In comparison with that future, kids, you're going to wish Sarah was right.  At least SKYNET gave us a chance.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 07:30:07 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on November 04, 2020, 06:39:15 PM
From what I am seeing on YouTube and 4chan about the election so far, I have assumed two basic premises.

a}  Trump is going to claim that any election result favouring Biden is fraudulent, and will contest it.

b}  The Left seem to be entirely unwilling to accept any possibility of a Trump victory, whether it is fraudulent or not.

I don't know where America is going to go from here, but I had assumed that the historical pattern would usually mean war.  Both sides are apparently mutually antagonistic and view each other as the enemy.

I am torn.  On the one hand, I don't believe that Trump has any interest in truly doing what is necessary to repair the civil and economic infrastructure of the country, and said infrastructure will most likely not survive another four years without executive attention.  On the other hand, I am exceedingly tired of the level of viciousness and self-righteousness which I have consistently seen from the Left from the last ten years on Reddit.

I do not want the Left to be given any reason to view their ideology as legitimate, because doing so will only increase their vindictiveness, and their censorship and dismissal of anyone who disagrees with them.  The Left are currently advancing the idea that their position is the correct mainstream default, and that anyone who dissents is simply part of a hateful, deviant minority. 

I want to see this narrative disrupted, and I am gravely concerned that a Biden victory would mean the opposite; that it would be strengthened and reinforced.  There is a similar group of self-righteous hypocrites in Australia, who are publically represented by the YouTube channel called, "friendlyjordies."  A Biden victory in America would likely increase that group's sense of self-justification as well, and therefore have negative implications for Australia.

It may be that civil war is unavoidable; and possibly even necessary.  What do the rest of you think?


will be no war. us still a beacon. there is still
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 02:34:25 AM
why?
I like to keep politics out of my day to day life, not even my family knows (although they suspect) in which party I prefer. :)

Quotewhat is your position. What you think about covid-19
It's just another disease, one that spreads relatively easily and that affects most people with mild symptoms but, because how easy it spreads, one that takes a big percentage of the health system's resources, and that's it's biggest problem.

Quoteyou should not.
I'm not afraid of any thing. :)

Quotei c. But why people so scaried? Its like msm saying: Aliens are comming... you should be afraid!
It depends. Most people I know are scared because of their parents/grandparents, as older people are the most affected.
Although I'm not afraid of catching it I'm careful and follow the usual precautions to avoid spreading it. For example, if I catch CoViD-19 that would mean the company I work would have to go into a quarantine, and so would my sisters, affecting also their work, and one of them if she doesn't work she doesn't get paid, as she is self employed.

Quoteuniversal basic income.
No, UBI is not an answer, as individual persons are not directly affected, their employers are, so helping companies ends up helping the people that work for them.
In my case, for example, I work officially in a software house, but I also work on a "sister company",  an accounting office, and I have helped my boss request government help for several client companies, and that help allowed the companies to keep on working and paying their workers, so, for all the people working in those companies the situation wasn't much worse from a monetary point of view
           
Quoteits not only one vac in the play... tere are russians, chineses, etc...
I doubt Portugal will buy all the vaccines available, and, if I ever take it, it will be a vaccine prescribed
by my doctor and I will pay nothing for it. If I have to pay I will not take it. :)

Quotea person like you should.
OK, I will try to spend some time looking at it.

https://www.weforum.org/ (https://www.weforum.org/)

Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGuKyBimFvM

2 min mark
OK, I understand it now.
I always thought that boot quote was created more for impact than anything else, as he was talking about the future in a way that made it look like the (then) present and past were better.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 19, 2020, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 19, 2020, 03:49:42 AM
idk what you mean by no but the great reset seems like an agenda:
By "no" I mean that I am not "informed about klaus from wmf and the great reset", so I cannot comment.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 12:09:00 AM
If the 'Great Reset' really is so good for us, let's hold a referendum on it, so it can have a democratic mandate (or not)

QuoteHow can this be right? The Great Reset/4IR (and the closely linked UN 2030 Agenda) represents not only the most radical changes ever proposed in our lifetimes, but the most radical changes to everyday life IN HISTORY.

The Great Reset/4IR is actually about redefining what it means to be human.

For centuries, it has been accepted that man is a social animal. That meeting up with other people is good for us. That we have certain freedoms which are inalienable. But the Great Reset/4IR threatens all of this.

Klaus Schwab says "What the fourth industrial revolution will lead to is a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity."

Wow. A fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity. That's Transhumanism. Cyborgs. I Robot. That represents a slightly bigger change to our lives than anything argued about in the Brexit negotiations.

So will the abolition of private property, except for a privileged few. The WEF predicts that by 2030, "You'll own nothing. And you'll be happy."

Is this what the public really wants? Ditto a 'cashless society'? Humans have been using cash banknotes and coins for millennia, now we're told they have to go. The civil liberties repercussions of a cashless society are truly terrifying as they mean anyone can be 'cut off' from the system for non-compliance. Eliminate cash, and you eliminate freedom.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507336-great-reset-world-economic-forum/ (https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507336-great-reset-world-economic-forum/)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 12:21:02 AM
Even people that recovered from COVID will be required to take the vaccine...The goal is to vaccinate all humans...WHY? What else is in it? We don't do this for far more deadly viruses.

This does open the possibility that the virus will contain some form of programmable matter (I suspect Black Goo is the most versatile for this).
QuoteWhat is Black Goo?

Black Goo is an abiotic mineral oil from the upper crust containing high amounts of m-state gold and iridium. It has been found on Thule Island on the South Falkland Islands and under the Gulf of Mexico. Furthermore there exists a black oil schist containing this type of oil from earlier tectonic events. These events apparently broke up the crust of the earth.

M-state gold and iridium function as the bio-photon-field attractor responsible for interconnecting life forms with their morphogenetic field. Sea-water contains high amounts of m-state matter. Within the life forms the superconducting m-state matter is placed inside the DNA-strings. These mono-atomic elements are attracting the bio-photons, while the DNA acts like a coil transforming the field energy into electromagnetic scalar potential. This m-state-matter guided bi-directional light-exchange of the DNA defines the scalar potential eddies who's fractal and holographic character is responsible for the form and shape of life-forms.

Black Goo shows a hitherto unknown type of magnetism, much longer in range than ferromagnetism, that seems to be interactive in a spontaneous way, that very likely is based on bi-directional, annihilated photon exchange as known from m-state-matter in life-forms. Due to this magnetism Black Goo shows the ability to mechanically self-organize in many different ways and has been reported to carry highly intelligent consciousness.

The Black Goo within the crust and the m-state matter within the biosphere seem to be inter-connected by quantum entanglement and function as a consciousness-mirror.

Black Goo thus carries an a-biotic consciousness representing the collective consciousness of the entire bio-sphere. The form of organization is holographic, thus every portion of Black Go is able to interact as a fully conscious being. Looking at the mythological reception of nature it has been described as Lucifer, Mother Earth, the Black Madonna, and is meant to be the physical location of the collective memory of mankind, aka the akasha chronic.

The quantum entanglement between life-forms and the Black Goo inside the earth seems to lead to a very high degree of self-similarity. In result, the Goo extracted by past geologic events carries a different type of consciousness than the Black Goo of our days. The Black Goo with an age of about 300 million years extracted from oil schist even today still carries a reptilian type of consciousness.

This dis-connection from the actual state of consciousness has been regarded in mythology as the fall of Lucifer.

During the evolution of life certain life forms stayed connected to the geologically marginalized Black Goo and thus got stuck on reptilian consciousness. When humans are brought into contact with this type of Black Goo, the light-transfer of the bio-field of the human body might be redirected onto the archaic Black Goo, which might reduce the complexity of the human Chakra System to blue, yellow and red, i.e. to mental abilities, life force and sexuality. It leads to a state of being intelligent, but heartless and cold in appearance. It disconnects the human from the collective consciousness of his time.

Something like this must have happened in the event described in the mythology as the deterioration from paradise. The effect seems to be handed over to following generations referred to as the heritable sin mentioned in the bible by ongoing quantum entanglement transferred with the genetic information. It also refers to the traditions of the bloodlines, who seem to try to keep this reptilian entanglement as strong as possible.

Archaic Black Goo played a major role in black magic rites, last intensively researched by the inner core of the German SS. In the middle-ages these black stones were utilized by black magicians to connect with archonts, aka demons, archaic beings which have developed out of early spiders who entirely live as light parasites and try to align with humans to form a symbiosis, where the archont feeds on the bio-photons of the human and the human profits from the mental (magical) abilities of the archonts.
http://www.timeloopsolution.com/english/blackgoo_e.html (http://www.timeloopsolution.com/english/blackgoo_e.html)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 21, 2020, 12:54:36 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 12:21:02 AM
Even people that recovered from COVID will be required to take the vaccine...
Who said that?
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 21, 2020, 01:23:14 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 21, 2020, 12:54:36 AM
Who said that?

I dont know if someone said it but it kinda implies that if you can be reinfected you will need the vaccine...

Covid-19 Reinfection Is Possible And Should Inform Pandemic Priorities Moving Forward

Quotebut there's reason to believe we may never be Covid-free again because of the genuine possibility that Covid-19 will become an endemic disease; people once infected may become reinfected.

We still know little about Covid-19 reinfection incidence. There have been official cases across continents and undoubtedly many more that have gone unreported. A Lancet report confirmed that in mid-October, the virus reinfected a man in Nevada. His symptoms were more severe during the second infection, but he has since recovered. Whether symptoms are worse on the first or second infection seems to vary from case to case.

That means reinfection occurs despite the body's immune response with antibody or T-cell production.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/11/20/covid-19-reinfection-is-possible-and-should-inform-pandemic-priorities-moving-forward/?sh=76cea35372a2 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/11/20/covid-19-reinfection-is-possible-and-should-inform-pandemic-priorities-moving-forward/?sh=76cea35372a2)

Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 21, 2020, 01:30:42 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 12:21:02 AM
Even people that recovered from COVID will be required to take the vaccine...The goal is to vaccinate all humans...WHY? What else is in it? We don't do this for far more deadly viruses.

This does open the possibility that the virus will contain some form of programmable matter (I suspect Black Goo is the most versatile for this).http://www.timeloopsolution.com/english/blackgoo_e.html (http://www.timeloopsolution.com/english/blackgoo_e.html)

Well anything is possible these days... I think some groups in our planet already achieved that so-called technology indistinguishable from magic tipping point. Plus the way they are pushing for this rebranded NWO AKA great reset AKA build back better makes me think they already have a way to tag everyone for total control.

Probably they already have the ways to (Klaus is really pushing the 4rt industrial revolution "meme") get rid of the most blue collars jobs so, i think robotics will be a huge player in the next 5 years as 5g or maybe 6g...
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 02:35:01 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 21, 2020, 12:54:36 AM
Who said that?

QuoteThe IA 2030 strategy—to extend the benefits of vaccines to everyone, everywhere—is underpinned by four core principles: it puts people in the center, is led by countries, implemented through broad partnerships, and driven by data. The IA2030 strategy systematically applies the core principles across each of the strategic priorities.
https://www.who.int/teams/immunization-vaccines-and-biologicals/strategies/ia2030
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: RUSSO on November 21, 2020, 03:50:07 AM



QuoteFirstly, while the Covid-19 virus is new, other coronaviruses are not.

We have experience of SARS in 2003 and MERS in 2012, while in the UK there are at least four known strains of coronavirus which cause the common cold.

Many individuals who've been infected by other coronaviruses have immunity to closely related ones such as the Covid-19 virus.

Multiple research groups in Europe and the US have shown that around 30 per cent of the population was likely already immune to Covid-19 before the virus arrived – something which Sage continues to ignore.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/30/21/35058230-0-image-a-68_1604093727236.jpg)
QuoteAccording to Cambridge University the Covid-19 mortality rate is at 1.4% , followed by Imperial College London with 1.2% and an Australian study with 0.75% Dr Yeardon cites the Stanford study, saying:  'After extensive world wide surveys, pre-eminent scientists such as John Ioannidis, professor of epidemiology at Stanford University in California, have concluded that the mortality rate is closer to 0.2 per cent.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8899053/DR-MIKE-YEADON-Three-facts-No-10s-experts-got-wrong.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8899053/DR-MIKE-YEADON-Three-facts-No-10s-experts-got-wrong.html)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 03:04:00 PM
John Kerry Says Great Reset is Needed to Stop Rise of Populism

Quote"The notion of a reset is more important than ever before," Kerry said. "I personally believe ... we're at the dawn of an extremely exciting time."

The former Senator made it clear that this "reset," which is merely a re-branding of the same new world order that has faced stiff resistance for the past two decades, is necessary to extinguish populism.

"I think Europe has to look at that with Brexit and the rising national populism — nationalistic populism," said Kerry. "Which is really one of the priorities that we all have to address. You can't dismiss it."
https://summit.news/2020/11/20/john-kerry-says-great-reset-is-needed-to-stop-rise-of-populism/ (https://summit.news/2020/11/20/john-kerry-says-great-reset-is-needed-to-stop-rise-of-populism/)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 21, 2020, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: RUSSO on November 21, 2020, 01:23:14 AM
I dont know if someone said it but it kinda implies that if you can be reinfected you will need the vaccine...
It makes sense, but there's a difference between needing a vaccine to be immune and be "required" to have a vaccine.

In many countries (including Portugal) medical procedures cannot be mandatory. That's why we are in an "emergency state", as it allows for some rights to be limited, and, in this specific case, one of the rights is the negative right of having access to medical care (meaning that people have the right to deny medical care), so they can say that masks may be mandatory to enter public buildings and such.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on November 21, 2020, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 03:04:00 PM
John Kerry Says Great Reset is Needed to Stop Rise of Populism
In Europe we don't need outside people telling us what it's good for us.  :P
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on November 21, 2020, 08:11:04 PM
QuoteIn Europe we don't need outside people telling us what it's good for us.  :P

I'm sure they see it as us being the outsiders.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 15, 2020, 11:43:54 PM
WOW!
Video: Electors Blocked from Entering Michigan Capital to Vote for Trump
https://banned.video/watch?id=5fd7f0d8e5353b7e9a6930d6 (https://banned.video/watch?id=5fd7f0d8e5353b7e9a6930d6)

Globalists are pulling out all the stops.

MICHIGAN VOTE FRAUD WITNESS ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQVvazhYB4
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 15, 2020, 11:47:05 PM
Court-ordered audit concludes Dominion voting machines were intentionally designed to 'create systemic fraud' in Michigan
QuoteThe court-ordered forensic audit, carried out by Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG), found that Dominion systems in Antrim County, Michigan recorded a shocking 68 percent error rate while tabulating votes. The report noted that the faulty software far exceeds the "allowable election error rate" of 0.0008 percent set by the Federal Election Commission.

Shockingly, the auditors claimed that the widespread errors were a feature, not a bug, stating that the voting system "intentionally" generates a high number of ballot errors which can then be used to manipulate the vote tally.
https://www.rt.com/usa/509674-michigan-dominion-audit-errors-fraud/ (https://www.rt.com/usa/509674-michigan-dominion-audit-errors-fraud/)

I'm sure it was just a glitch.  ::)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on December 16, 2020, 12:44:21 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 15, 2020, 11:43:54 PM
MICHIGAN VOTE FRAUD WITNESS ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQVvazhYB4
Funny that the above video asks for an age verification by using a credit card (which I do not have) or by sending them a photo of my ID, which I will never do.

In this case I cannot really watch the video, and I wanted to to see if it's the video of the woman being shot after leaving home and entering her car. If it is then the police did not identify the woman, so we cannot know if she was a fraud witness or not.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 16, 2020, 02:08:48 AM
I went to youtube and watched it there. No credit card required but I have a google account perhaps you don't.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: ArMaP on December 16, 2020, 07:49:01 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 16, 2020, 02:08:48 AM
I went to youtube and watched it there. No credit card required but I have a google account perhaps you don't.
I have a Google account and I am logged in on YouTube.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Ellirium113 on December 17, 2020, 10:22:52 PM
Quote
Lin Wood
@LLinWood
·
3h
Corruption & deceit have reached most powerful office in our country - the Chief Justice of U.S. Supreme Court.

This is a sad day for our country but a day on which we must wake up & face the truth.

Roberts is reason that SCOTUS has not acted on election cases. Others involved.

https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1339639287827062796 (https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1339639287827062796)
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Irene on June 26, 2021, 06:23:27 PM
Congratulations to those of you who voted for Bidet. You have helped destroy the country.
Title: Re: The 2020 American election
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 27, 2021, 01:55:42 AM
Quote from: Irene on June 26, 2021, 06:23:27 PM
Congratulations to those of you who voted for Bidet. You have helped destroy the country.

Of course I believe this too....

(BTW....good to see you again)..

Rock