The 2020 American election

[petrus4]

From what I am seeing on YouTube and 4chan about the election so far, I have assumed two basic premises.

a}  Trump is going to claim that any election result favouring Biden is fraudulent, and will contest it.

b}  The Left seem to be entirely unwilling to accept any possibility of a Trump victory, whether it is fraudulent or not.

I don't know where America is going to go from here, but I had assumed that the historical pattern would usually mean war.  Both sides are apparently mutually antagonistic and view each other as the enemy.

I am torn.  On the one hand, I don't believe that Trump has any interest in truly doing what is necessary to repair the civil and economic infrastructure of the country, and said infrastructure will most likely not survive another four years without executive attention.  On the other hand, I am exceedingly tired of the level of viciousness and self-righteousness which I have consistently seen from the Left from the last ten years on Reddit.

I do not want the Left to be given any reason to view their ideology as legitimate, because doing so will only increase their vindictiveness, and their censorship and dismissal of anyone who disagrees with them.  The Left are currently advancing the idea that their position is the correct mainstream default, and that anyone who dissents is simply part of a hateful, deviant minority. 

I want to see this narrative disrupted, and I am gravely concerned that a Biden victory would mean the opposite; that it would be strengthened and reinforced.  There is a similar group of self-righteous hypocrites in Australia, who are publically represented by the YouTube channel called, "friendlyjordies."  A Biden victory in America would likely increase that group's sense of self-justification as well, and therefore have negative implications for Australia.

It may be that civil war is unavoidable; and possibly even necessary.  What do the rest of you think?

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

We've been here before, remember Bush vs Gore? Eventually one will prevail. If Biden wins and it goes to the Supreme Court as it did before. There it is a toss up but favors Trump. If that's the case, the left will throw a hissy fit. I really don't see a civil war. Been there done that. It'll work it's way out.

[Ellirium113]

a}  Trump is going to claim that any election result favouring Biden is fraudulent, and will contest it.

Rightfully so considering all the mail in ballots that were fraudulent ALREADY found before the election. Corporations like Facebook & Google also colluding with Democrats... If the Russians do it = BAD if Corporations do it = FINE. Democrats have stated they would do anything it takes.

I am torn.  On the one hand, I don't believe that Trump has any interest in truly doing what is necessary to repair the civil and economic infrastructure of the country, and said infrastructure will most likely not survive another four years without executive attention.  On the other hand, I am exceedingly tired of the level of viciousness and self-righteousness which I have consistently seen from the Left from the last ten years on Reddit.

Trump alone is powerless to to fix this. This is a function of parliment to fix however due to the large amount of lobbyists in govt. office and corporate influence it makes it nearly impossible to to get laws passed that can change things to the better. Hopefully this will help:
Executive Order on Creating Schedule F In The Excepted Service
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/

[ArMaP]

I don't think a civil war will erupt from this situation, even if it gets worse, people in the US are too selfish and lazy to do something like that.

Yes, they may break and burn a few things, but they will get tired soon.

As for the victory claims when there was many votes to be counted it only makes the US even more of a joke for someone looking at this from the outside.

The US is losing its already diminished credibility with this whole situation. If they stopped acting like politicians in a Third World country they could really do something about it.

[ArMaP]

Executive Order on Creating Schedule F In The Excepted Service
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/

Could you explain to those that don't have the slightest idea of what a "schedule F" is what it all means?
Thanks in advance.

[Ellirium113]

In a nutshell it restores the ability to investigate and lawfully act on corrupt government officials and prevent those sorts of people from being put into those positions through various checks and balances. He's pulled the plug to let the swamp drain.

[Ellirium113]

Fairfax Virginia has switched 100,000 votes from Trump to Biden stating a "clerical error"

Wisconsin suddenly discovers over 112k Biden ballots between 3:30 am and 4:30 am

Nevada has decided they won't have all vote counts in until Thursday

Michigan has gained 138.339 ballots for Biden since they stopped counting last night. A whopping zero for Trump

6 states trump has sizable leads, all six states decided to stop counting ballots on election night (unheard of) and they all have blue strong holds

Jack from Twitter deletes the current sitting presidents tweet on election night. Glaringly obvious election interference

LeeJoe, who was running for district 16 senate seat in Idaho and stated so on his account profile, gets his account deleted from Facebook not once but twice. Another example of a glaringly obvious election interference.

North Carolina has 100% of precincts counted with Trump in the clear lead and it's not being called.



USPS 'whistleblower' tells Project Veritas he was ordered to backdate late mail-in ballots in Michigan

An anonymous tipster with the Postal Service in Michigan has alleged his supervisor ordered mail carriers to backdate ballots mailed too late to be counted, Project Veritas revealed - and the service is reportedly investigating.
The self-professed mail carrier - whose voice and identity have been disguised by the conservative muckraking operation - claimed he and his colleagues were "issued a directive" to "collect any ballots we find in mailboxes," collection boxes, and "outgoing mail in general" on Wednesday and "separate them at the end of the day so that they could hand stamp them with the previous day's date" in an interview with Project Veritas posted on Wednesday night.

https://www.rt.com/usa/505653-project-veritas-whistleblower-mailin-ballots/

[ArMaP]

In a nutshell it restores the ability to investigate and lawfully act on corrupt government officials and prevent those sorts of people from being put into those positions through various checks and balances.

Restores? When was it removed?

[Ellirium113]

Maybe poor choice of wording... perhaps I should have said enables.

[RUSSO]

From what I am seeing on YouTube and 4chan about the election so far, I have assumed two basic premises.

a}  Trump is going to claim that any election result favouring Biden is fraudulent, and will contest it.

b}  The Left seem to be entirely unwilling to accept any possibility of a Trump victory, whether it is fraudulent or not.

I don't know where America is going to go from here, but I had assumed that the historical pattern would usually mean war.  Both sides are apparently mutually antagonistic and view each other as the enemy.

I am torn.  On the one hand, I don't believe that Trump has any interest in truly doing what is necessary to repair the civil and economic infrastructure of the country, and said infrastructure will most likely not survive another four years without executive attention.  On the other hand, I am exceedingly tired of the level of viciousness and self-righteousness which I have consistently seen from the Left from the last ten years on Reddit.

I do not want the Left to be given any reason to view their ideology as legitimate, because doing so will only increase their vindictiveness, and their censorship and dismissal of anyone who disagrees with them.  The Left are currently advancing the idea that their position is the correct mainstream default, and that anyone who dissents is simply part of a hateful, deviant minority. 

I want to see this narrative disrupted, and I am gravely concerned that a Biden victory would mean the opposite; that it would be strengthened and reinforced.  There is a similar group of self-righteous hypocrites in Australia, who are publically represented by the YouTube channel called, "friendlyjordies."  A Biden victory in America would likely increase that group's sense of self-justification as well, and therefore have negative implications for Australia.

It may be that civil war is unavoidable; and possibly even necessary.  What do the rest of you think?

hey here a COUP of and yes im from Brazil for who asked. this election will be remembered as the las bullet on democracy.

i miss Z and his awareness... the question i ask... does it make sense to you? is it a real vote democratic election?

cause for the rest of the world it is prob a joke

[RUSSO]

that means to me you really want a global organization, it says to me you really want go to space. i don't think we prepared, i think we will be crudhed out there, we not deserve it. human is so much corrupted we deserve to be here one more cicle.

[ArMaP]

is it a real vote democratic election?

The system used in the US is not really that democratic, as the people do not elect the president, and what they choose may not even be the final result, as those electoral college votes are not guaranteed to represent the opinion of the people that elected them.
If I'm not mistaken, it's even possible that someone that didn't run for president to be elected. It would be difficult to happen, but if all electoral colleges elements decided to vote on, for example, Kim Kardashian, they could elect her as the new US president.

Yes, it's a ridiculous system.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

The system is designed to level out the playing field. Remember it's called the United States. States with larger populations would have a distinct advantage if it was a popular vote. Our system is designed to give states with a lower population a fighting chance. States, States, States!

It's not perfect but it is what it is.

[ArMaP]

Our system is designed to give states with a lower population a fighting chance.

Do all states get the same number of electoral voters?

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Do all states get the same number of electoral voters?

No, more population gets you more votes. Example: Georgia has 16 and Florida has 29.

"Electoral votes, out of 538, allocated to each state and the District of Columbia for presidential elections held in 2012, 2016 and 2020, based on congressional representation, which depends on population data from the 2010 Census."