From: http://wakeup-world.com/2011/06/06/push_for_lithium_to_be_added_to_our_drinking_water/
QuoteApparently there are not enough chemicals already added to our drinking water, as there is now a call by "experts" to further poison our water supplies by adding Lithium. Their main reason is to decrease suicide and violent crime rates.
So it this how we wish to function as a society? Instead of dealing with our issues at hand, let's drug ourselves so that we don't have to deal with personal subjects that may be perceived as hard, negative or scary. This is not a time for putting our heads in the sand and pretending or even hoping that an issue will just resolve itself. Where is the personal growth in that? Don't you feel elated when you resolve a personal issue that no longer hangs over your head or weights on your mind? It is more important than ever to clear ourselves of past issues that we have held onto and allow more room for the new energies coming to earth to take its place within our being.
More at link.
Doesn't it ever END!?! [sigh]
Damn, Amy, they never stop trying to control us do they?
Stock up on brita filters, and dont drink anything that flows from a tap!
I am a proponent of deep well use, but here in FLA, we have found every toxic chemical in our aquifers, even oxycontin, and Xanax!
Good grief as Thor says, good grief!
Le
Britta might get the lithium out... Probably. I know it doesn't touch the fluoride.
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 01, 2012, 12:30:00 AM
Britta might get the lithium out... Probably. I know it doesn't touch the fluoride.
Hey, Amy!
I have a big supply of brita filters, and when I e-mailed them about one that leaked charcoal bits they sent me a coupon for a dozen more!
That flouride is bad, and its harming our pinecones as we drink!
I found a filter for flouride, and damn! I got an extra 1300 bucks laying around...NOT!
I love how one corporate criminal poisons us, and then another rips us off for that kind of money for a device made of thirty bucks worth of materials.
Where is that Abundance paradigm when we need it?
Cheers!
Littleenki
It's on its way, Dave. [smile]
I'm working as thoroughly as I can!
hella innovative iD€@ ;D but why they're not about Big © to put in the Water? ::) + curiously, what guys of big pharma were blessed by so f*King Muse??? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJGpsL_XYQI :D
So...they are taking another run at this eh?
QuoteChlorine, fluoride, and the various other chemical poisons already added to the nation's drinking water supplies are apparently not enough for the self-appointed experts whose insatiable lust to force-medicate the world is never satisfied. A recent report in The Daily offers credence to the insane notion that adding lithium, a drug currently used to treat mental disorders, to drinking water will be beneficial in helping to reduce suicide and violent crime rates.
http://www.naturalnews.com/032576_lithium_drinking_water.html#ixzz1wguCeVm3
This scared me the first time I read that they wanted to do this.
Of course...they would never just experiment without telling us would
they? >:(
This was one reason, along with flouride, and the leftover psycotropic
drugs in the water...I stopped drinking tap water long ago.
The differece I noticed after just a few months was amazing.
I was using a Brita filter, and Best Water too. But then
read that the smaller psyco tropic drugs still remain. ???
So, switched to a spring water thats double purified for my
drinking water...runs about 50 cents a day.
I imagine that the savings are untold in terms of health.
Some things I noticed after about 1 year off of tap water....
....much clearer thinking...much much clearer.
Also alot more energy, better sleep....less
waking up at night....and a more even mood...along with
dissapearance of "cravings".
Flouride is nasty stuff, add to that the psyco tropics and even
hormones! And they want to add lithium?
Outrageous!
Brita filters are a joke compared to things like Berkey's, Aquasanas, Santevias, etc. but better than nothing I guess...
Isn't lithium used to control crazy people?
::)
help prevent suicides and save lobotomies?
Well it makes great batteries too :o
Lithium, flouride, chlorine?
Holy Crap! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Lets just put some ethylene glycol in there to keep it from freezing, too!
Our wannabe doctors and health "professionals" are all in it for one reason, to prolong their necessity, and protect their wallets.
Doctors are supposed to try to achieve new methods of treatment and such, but to add chemicals of any kind to the body can have dire consequences.
Havent taken any pills really ever, and I personally dont go to any doctors unless Im dying, which I havent done yet. :o
Those brita filters were in response to our water being very hard, and having a great deal of particulate, but ya know what Burntheships? Im going to try switching to spring water today, and this month, and Ill write down my results, and any difference noted, and post them here on a thread in real time.
Im trying to clear up my Pineal Gland, and through my diet it has increased in efficiency a lot(58 pounds lost, with no diet, just a change in portions)and hopefully it will give me an egde over those doctors and their cronies at the water department.
Then will be the smartest fellow in town, in a sea of psychotropic zombies! well, probably not, but close!
MUST....STOP...Licking batteries! :o
Good advice BTS, thanks!
Littleenki
well my chemistry is not that great anymore..so sorry if this is a dumb question for you chemistry guys
but will boiling the water remove it?
little story
my mother who is 90 and smart as a tack has boiled her water for about 35 years..
then she refrigerates it in glass only
it's the only way she will used tap water for anything
i feel that this habit of hers is what has kept her healthy and aware
so my question does boiling the water remove any of the additions to it?
:)
Quote from: sky otter on June 03, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
so my question does boiling the water remove any of the additions to it?
If you boil the water and condense the steam you will have nice clean water... it's called distillation.
(http://www.goodwaterco.com/watereducation/images/dist1_001.jpg)
HOWEVER you need to do it at the right temperature because other liquids will also evaporate and mix in with the steam. That is why they use this method to make gasoline products and alcohol. If your using tap water to start, most contaminates are already removed. Distallation will remove all those hard chemicals
QuoteIn this attempt to imitate nature, water is evaporated from one container into another container. In nature this occurs costantly, primarily from the earth (seas, lakes, rivers, etc...) to the sky. In distillation, this process usually is accelerated by heat. There are many types of distillation units which the consumer can buy, from simple 2 gallon a day units to whole house applications. The cost is typically quite a bit more than the other filtration devices, but the quaility of water is also better and more certain.
Distillation is one of mankind's earliest forms of water treatment, and it is still a popular treatment solution throughout the world today. In ancient times, the Greeks used this process on their ships to convert sea water into drinking water. In far-eastern cultures, water was distilled for use in "Ranbiki" tea ceremonies. Today, distilled water is still used to convert sea water to drinking water on ships and in arid parts of the world, and to treat water in other areas that is fouled by natural and unnatural contaminants. Distillation is perhaps the one water treatment technology that most completely reduces the widest range of drinking water contaminants.
Not only is distillation one of the most effective forms of treatment, but it is also one of the easiest to understand: untreated water is converted into water vapor, which is then condensed back into liquid form. Most of the contaminants are left behind in the boiling chamber, with the condensed water being virtually contaminant-free. Anyone who has accidentally let a pot of water boil completely out on the stove is familiar with this process, and familiar with the crust of contaminants typically left behind after the water is gone.
In nature, this basic process is responsible for the hydrologic cycle. The sun causes water to evaporate from surface sources such as lakes, oceans, and streams. The water vapor eventually comes in contact with cooler air, where it re-condenses to form dew or rain. This process can be imitated artificially, and more rapidly than in nature, using alternative sources of heating and cooling.
http://www.goodwaterco.com/watereducation/Distillation.htm
Just boiling the water itself will remove MOST live pathogens and bacteria, but it will not remove chemicals. In fact it will concentrate them. If you have 1 gallon of water and you boil it so there is only half a gallon left (the rest is gone in steam) you will have DOUBLED the hard chemicals in that water
As the article states.. if you boil it off completely you will see the sediments left in the pot
Sixteenth Century Clay Porcelain Distiller
(http://www.goodwaterco.com/watereducation/images/dist-fg1_001.jpg)
Quote from: Haole on June 03, 2012, 05:16:02 AM
Brita filters are a joke compared to things like Berkey's, Aquasanas, Santevias, etc. but better than nothing I guess...
Yep I could not say enough good words about berkey in general :D
Plus the whole gravity feed aspect of berkey is nice as it keeps you in touch with water :;
get one of these bad boys
water from the air humidity (they even have one that runs on solar panels (it's a kit, the water from air machine and a solar panel. but it's alot more expensive)
http://www.ecoloblue.com/
Quote from: Littleenki on June 03, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
Lithium, flouride, chlorine?
Chlorine can be removed by simply leaving the tap water exposed to air over night. Chlorine evaporates quickly as anyone that has a swimming pool can attest too. But if they didn't add chlorine your water would taste REAL NASTY as it would have algae growing in the reservoirs
QuoteThose brita filters were in response to our water being very hard, and having a great deal of particulate, but ya know what Burntheships? Im going to try switching to spring water today, and this month, and Ill write down my results, and any difference noted, and post them here on a thread in real time.
Spring Water... make SURE you get a sample of that spring and have it tested. There was a spring in Canada that rock hounds used to stop at while sample hunting on an old mine property. Nice clear cold water...
I went to that mone the first time with a field trip... looking for specific specimens... namely betafite crystals :o
I saw a collector fill his canteen. I looked at him and said "You do realize that this is an old uranium mine, right?"
That spring has since been cemented over with a warning... highly radioactive. :o
Springs can pick up anything in the area. even miles away so ALWAYS check the water by testing first
Perrier premiere bottled water once had to recall millions of bottles because they found turpentine in it.
Quoteand hopefully it will give me an egde over those doctors and their cronies at the water department.
You want an edge? Study witchcraft :P At least the old herbs and potions. Aspirin is merely concentrated willow tree bark... one of the best medicines you can stockpile for emergency as it has a very long shelf live
QuoteMUST....STOP...Licking batteries! :o
:o Good idea :o
poor man's version is to make a dehumidifier and then filter the water. there's a poor man's water filter version too. i've seen both on youtube with instructions on how to make them.
Quote from: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 05:24:50 AM
Isn't lithium used to control crazy people?
::)
help prevent suicides and save lobotomies?
Well it makes great batteries too :o
A friend of mine was diagnosed with bi-polar and an alcoholic. The doctors have had him on lithium for 30 years. It actually did save his life. However the lithium is destroying his liver so now they have to find new meds to help him.
I don't think that it is a good idea to give everyone else it though.
Quote from: micjer on June 03, 2012, 05:35:54 PM
I don't think that it is a good idea to give everyone else it though.
Well the PTB think we are all crazy... maybe they think that this is the cure for free thinking. I hear they consider that a disease
Here is a recipe for good health... just take this combination once a day and you will be fine :D
3 milligrams(mg) of sodium
145 mg of potassium
6 mg of magnesium
7 mg of calcium
65 micrograms(ug) of manganese
480 ug of iron
100 ug of copper
120 ug of zinc
12 mg of phosphorus
2 mg of chloride
7 ug of fluoride
2 ug of iodine
1-6 ug of selenium.
550 mg of Malic acid
16 mg of citric acid
500 ug of oxalic acid
310 ug of salicylic acid
3 mg of purine
16 mg of Leucine
15 mg Lysine
12 mg of Valine
10 mg of Isoleucine
2210 mg of glucose
6040 mg of fructose
2470 of sucrose
600 mg of starch
510 mg of sorbit
50 mg of palmitic acid
10 mg of stearic acid
20 mg of oleic acid
100 mg of linolic acid
20 mg of linoleic acid
Sounds YUMMY right?
The thing people forget is that the human body is mostly water and about 24 pounds of CHEMICALS... we NEED Chemicals to be healthy.
I think Chemists should be the doctors :P because all diseases are related to a chemical imbalance of the body... you are either missing something or getting to much of something.
A chemist takes care to get proportions correct... if they don't they might blow up the lab :o
A doctor however will prescribe the same dose to a 110 pound female as a 350 pound male... any one with logic can see that there would be an imbalance in this method
Now get back to me and tell me how delicious my formula was :D
Should we have them juiced or not? :P
Free thinking has to be considered a disease. That way they can develop and prescribe medicine for it.... which means there is a market for that medicine.....voila.... job security for the drug companies.... the strongest establishment working in our society here in the United States.... I believe it has finally surpassed the Military establishment in its awesome power over all of us......
Just count the number of drug ads on tv within one hour during prime time TV. That will tell you what you might not have noticed yet. And notice also the slant of the ads..... they are informing YOU so that YOU can tell your Dr. what YOU have decided you need. And once they have you on that medicine.... you are probably there for life my friend.....
Linda
And how much of all of that Zorgon does one nice red apple supply???? <g> Linda
Crushed rock assay ???
Crushed rock assay
lol..i dunno..sounds more like fertilizer to me ;D ;)
thanks guys for your help...
Or simply the amount of chemicals that the human body needs..... I am no scientist obviously but I like old sayings..... An apple a day etc. Linda
Quote from: Somamech on June 03, 2012, 06:17:46 PM
Should we have them juiced or not? :P
Yeah you can juice them :D
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 03, 2012, 06:19:59 PM
Just count the number of drug ads on tv within one hour during prime time TV.
Yeah and there are just as many LAWYER ads helping you sue the drug companies when they mess you up :P
And the list of side effects :o SCARY take this pill to fix a gas bubble and you might die of a heart attack or worse. Take this antidepressant and you may have increased thoughts of suicide :o
Really scary :P I will stick to my willow bark derivative
that willow bark derivative is the only thing besides peroxide in my medicine box
good stuff
Zorgon,
Is John still saying that the Greys need to dip themselves in Hydrogen Peroxide? When I first heard that I watched the supply of Peroxide at the local stores.... waiting for a wild run on the supplies <g> or for the price to start going up but nothing ever happened <g>..... What is John saying about that now?
And I agree.... aspirin
Did you know that you can take a spider web and stop a cut from bleeding? Also heals faster! learned that from an Indian riding partner.
Linda
Quote from: sky otter on June 03, 2012, 06:48:57 PM
that willow bark derivative is the only thing besides peroxide in my medicine box
good stuff
I would recommend some potassium iodide in that kit
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 03, 2012, 06:22:36 PM
And how much of all of that Zorgon does one nice red apple supply???? <g> Linda
About all of it :P
figured :)
Did you know that you can take a spider web and stop a cut from bleeding? Also heals faster! learned that from an Indian riding partner.
yep
and spider web mixed with the black gooey swamp mud is even better
or raw honey
potassium iodide now on the list....
i never knew that you can take a spider web and stop a cut from bleeding. that COOL. -dcooper
Still important to have a good first aid kit in your saddle bags..... darned hard to find those neat spider webs when you need them!!!! Linda
I know it sounds primitive, but my firstaid kit has a roll of duct tape, and a giant piece of gauze, with three tubes of cyanoacrylate.
Of course it has the other stuff, and antibiotics, too, but that duct tape has saved my ass more than once...damn blacktip sharks!;)
Cheers!
Littleenki
Quote from: Littleenki on June 03, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
Lithium, flouride, chlorine?
Holy Crap! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Lets just put some ethylene glycol in there to keep it from freezing, too!
:D Yes, all that and dont forget the left over drugs....
Drugs that are improperly disposed of down the john,
drugs that leech from landfills, and drugs that pass through
those who take them and go the the john.
Quote A vast array of pharmaceuticals — including antibiotics, anti-convulsants, mood stabilizers and sex hormones — have been found in the drinking water supplies of at least 41 million Americans, an Associated Press investigation shows.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-03-10-drugs-tap-water_N.htm
:o
Quote from: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 06:12:51 PM
...7 ug of fluoride...
Calcium fluoride or sodium fluoride? Or did You mean fluorine?
I used to ride with the Loudon County Hunt occasionally whenever I happened to be there and could borrow a horse from a friend and pay what they called the " cap fee" which was the entrance fee for visitors. Great fun.... never caught anything of course because by then it was a " drag hunt" and was really just an excuse for sixty or seventy riders to dress in very traditional riding gear and gallop their good horses over historic fields.... on what was normally a gorgeous late fall day.....For the ladies we all were expected to wear certain items and one of the things was called a " Stock and pin" the stock was a stretch of cloth that was wrapped around and around your neck.... tied in a traditional way and fastened with a big pin that looked like a gold safety pin. If you were a member of the Hunt staff you also wore a length of leather over one shoulder, diagonally across your chest.
In actuality.... the stock material was so that you could use it as a tourniquet.... or a bandage .... or a sling.... and the pin was to fasten things..... the extra leather carried would be to replace someones stirrup leathers or to assist with a splint.... everything had a purpose in case of emergencies...
Funny how things that were originally just for safety became part of such a traditional dress code, so strictly enforced! Linda
disposing of drug scrips is getting easier..
they have a regular place you can take them to and they announce it in the paper
when my m-i-l passed i had a whole box full and called the druggiest in town to ask what to do..
they took them back to be disposed of
but in the back of my brain i wondered if they re used any of em..yikes
i'll stick to the aspirin
Quote from: burntheships on June 04, 2012, 03:41:20 AM
:D Yes, all that and dont forget the left over drugs....
Drugs that are improperly disposed of down the john,
drugs that leech from landfills, and drugs that pass through
those who take them and go the the john.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-03-10-drugs-tap-water_N.htm
:o
Right on BTS, Ive also thought about how with the OXY epidemic, we should be having withdrawals from our water source!:(
Is it possible that we are being addicted without even knowing it, as these drugs are finding their way into our bodies in tiny increments we dont notice until it's too late, then when we need one for pain, we become instantly addicted?
Like a drinker who sips a drink for the first time in years, and his mind and body recognize that substance and off the wagon he goes?
Sad at best.
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 04, 2012, 03:43:29 PM
Is it possible that we are being addicted without even knowing it, as these drugs are finding their way into our bodies in tiny increments we dont notice until it's too late
Thinking about this, what about all of the mass epidemic of children
diagnosed with ADD? Then multiply that, as all of those children taking
masss psycotropic drugs that ends up in the waste water, which is
processed, but these drugs are too small in size and are NOT filtered out.
I dont think things were the same 50 years ago...now we have
peeps prescribed female hormones, male hormones, the cows are
given hormones BGH.
Now, add to that all of the antidepressents NEW to the market
in the last 50 years. Every time I turn around so and so is now on
antidepressants. :o
It does give us a pause to wonder, just what is in that "clear" glass
of water out of the tap!
Its true that spring water can also be contaminated...though if its double
purified then a better choice than the tap.... IMO unless
one has a berkey water filtration, which would be ideal, as then
even the water your cooking with is clean! :)
I might point out that there have been incidents where high concentrations of medications have been found, but not overall...each incident found one specific medication in extremely high amounts. The medication has varied from place to place, and if it was because of flushing and all that as They claim, We should see roughly the same cocktail at each site. This is a very big red flag that these meds were dumped in large quantities deliberately.
And I am betting They're still dumping meds in Our water - maybe now as a cocktail - and blaming the use and disposal.
Scary, Amy, as they could just leech anything they want into the aquifer, and we wouldnt know a thing.
Look what the drugs have done to folks already who have to take them, they are zombies, with no mental capacity anymore!
Robots?
Yes, in an organic sense!
Le
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 04, 2012, 05:10:03 AM
Calcium fluoride or sodium fluoride? Or did You mean fluorine?
I dunno :P Does it matter? Will you stop eating apples based on that?
Quote from: Littleenki on June 05, 2012, 05:56:18 PM
Scary, Amy, as they could just leech anything they want into the aquifer, and we wouldnt know a thing.
Look what the drugs have done to folks already who have to take them, they are zombies, with no mental capacity anymore!
Robots?
Yes, in an organic sense!
Le
I agree. I think the water here is adulterated.
I imagine I will feel much better with freshy water.
Quote from: zorgon on June 05, 2012, 06:05:09 PM
I dunno :P Does it matter? Will you stop eating apples based on that?
Though I eat an occasional apple... I am not highly fond of them. I think I'm slightly allergic. But... I get Your point. [smile]
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 05, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
I agree. I think the water here is adulterated.
I imagine I will feel much better with freshy water.
Though I eat an occasional apple... I am not highly fond of them. I think I'm slightly allergic. But... I get Your point. [smile]
Oh no, I love apples!:(
Do you live in Suffolk still Amy?
I thought NY had some of the best water, from that big reservoir. Is that the source where you live?
Im sure the water in the creek at that place in GA is quite good and it probably contains some beneficial minerals to boot!
Plus the view is priceless!
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 04:14:17 AM
Oh no, I love apples!:(
Do you live in Suffolk still Amy?
I thought NY had some of the best water, from that big reservoir. Is that the source where you live?
Im sure the water in the creek at that place in GA is quite good and it probably contains some beneficial minerals to boot!
Plus the view is priceless!
Cheers!
Le
Yes, I do. LE, but consider... If there is a deliberate attempt to adulterate water supplies, find out what They test for - and use something different, eh? I know They are not openly putting fluoride in... But what of pharmaceuticals surreptitiously added? Could be. All I know is that I have not felt "right" here, and that is one thought I have had. I may be fully off the mark.
I eat organically, buy (too) expensive eggs when I can fit them in the budget (which just shrunk - no more food stamps - longish story - but a friend here (different friend) is giving Me organic food), so I don't know why I am out of sorts and thought, since what I consume the most is water (Britta filtered as far as that goes), perhaps that's the source. Or maybe this is just not the best energetics...
We have one of these within twenty miles in Tarpon Springs, FL, and although they say it's cleaned up the water coming from the banks of the Anclote River nearby at low tide has an oily sheen and smells of chemicals still. The federal authorities insist that it isnt anything to worry about, but as a fisherman in that very river, Ive seen a marked decline in the quality of fish, and a definite change in the size average of them, too.
http://scorecard.goodguide.com/env-releases/land/site-desc-long.tcl?epa_id=FLD010596013 here in Tarpon Springs....
http://scorecard.goodguide.com/env-releases/land/site.tcl?epa_id=NYD001533165#maps There in Suffolk county...
POLLUTION LOCATOR| Superfund | Site Description
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Suffolk County Epa report on the groundwater there:
Site Name: SMS INSTRUMENTS, INC.
EPA ID: NYD001533165
Conditions at proposal (October 15, 1984): SMS Instruments, Inc., overhauled military aircraft components in Deer Park, Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, New York, between l97l and l983. The site consists of a one-story building occupying 34,000 square feet on a l.5-acre lot that is largely paved. Industrial wastes generated from degreasing and other refurbishing operations were routinely discharged to a leaching pool on-site. In l979-80, the Suffolk County Department of Health detected solvents in the pool. The county installed monitoring wells, which proved to be contaminated with 1,1,1-TRICHLOROETHANE. Ground water is the only water supply source in the area. A public well field and pump station are less than 1 mile south, the general direction of ground water flow. Over 10,000 people draw drinking water from wells within 3 miles of the site. In March l980, the county issued a modified Consent Order to SMS. Violations at the site included effluent discharges in excess of ground water standards and criteria, improper storage and disposal of hazardous wastes, and failure to apply for a State Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit. Subsequent investigations at the site during l98l revealed 70 drums stored outdoors unprotected, some showing evidence of corrosion and leakage. Also in l98l, an underground 6,000-gallon jet fuel tank failed a pressure test, suggesting an additional threat to ground water. The site is 75 feet above sea level. Topography is generally flat with the exception of a steep embankment leading to a large basin 50 feet from the eastern property line. The basin recharges ground water. The headwaters of Sampawams Creek, which feeds into Guggenheim Lakes, lie l mile southeast. Belmont Lake State Park is less than 2 miles south-southwest. The immediate vicinity is light industrial, but predominant land use in the surrounding area is commercial and residential. Approximately 5,000 residences are within l mile of the site. Several schools are to the south. Status (June 10, 1986): EPA is considering various alternatives for this site.
Not to say this is the issue you are having specifically, but just to point out how the confidence of the EPA is lacking, as thats what they said about our superfund site her, and personally, I have seen the inversion of such a report, with nasty smelling water in the river and residents who tell me there animals have a high rate of cancers.
:(
Heres our site, the Stauffer Chemical plant directly on the Anclote River.
Site Name: STAUFFER CHEMICAL CO. (TARPON SPRINGS)
EPA ID: FLD010596013
Florida Stauffer Chemical Co. is located in an industrialized area between Anclote Boulevard and the Anclote River in Tarpon Springs, Pinellas County, Florida, about 1.6 miles east of the Gulf of Mexico. Stauffer purchased the 160-acre facility from Victor Chemical Works in 1960. The facility's ownership has changed several times; it is currently owned by Stauffer Management Co. From 1950 to 1981, the facility manufactured elemental phosphorus from phosphate ore. The processed ore was shipped off-site to be used primarily for production of agricultural pesticides, food-grade phosphates, and flame retardants. During the years of operation, a number of processing wastes were disposed of on the site. A system of seven unlined lagoons, about 600 feet from the Anclote River, received discharges of waste scrubber liquid and phosphorus water, as well as overflow from a CALCIUM silicate slag pit. At some time, two of the lagoons were dredged, and the dredged material, composed of CALCIUM sulfate/sulfite, CALCIUM silicate, CALCIUM FLUORIDE, phosphate sand, and calcined phosphate dust, was placed in two piles approximately 40 feet from the Anclote River. Other on-site disposal activities included the dumping of furnace dust in an isolated pond and the burial of 900 drums of calcined phosphate sand consisting of 20% elemental phosphorus. Over 500,000 tons of chemical process wastes were disposed of on the site between 1950 and 1979. The site is underlain by a surficial aquifer composed primarily of sand and the Floridan Aquifer composed of limestone. Water is reached at an average depth of 8 feet below land surface. The Floridan Aquifer is encountered at 17 to 37 feet and is approximately 100 feet thick in the area of the site. On-site monitoring wells into both aquifers are contaminated with BARIUM, CHROMIUM, LEAD, VANADIUM, ZINC, COPPER, and ARSENIC, according to EPA tests conducted in 1988 and 1989. The 1989 tests found these metals in the on-site waste piles. An estimated 8,500 people in the Tarpon Springs area receive drinking water from 23 public wells and 3 private wells located within 4 miles of the site. Because of the depths of the aquifers, all drinking water wells within 4 miles of the site are potential targets. EPA's 1988 and 1989 tests also detected most of the same HEAVY METALS in the Anclote River. Surface water runoff from the facility could flow south/southwest and enter the Anclote River, which is used for fishing. From there, the Anclote River flows 1.6 miles and empties into the Gulf of Mexico. Although no surface water intakes are located along the drainage pathways of the site, numerous county parks, State parks, and beaches are present and are extensively used. In addition, several wetlands that support a number of endangered and protected species are located along the surface water pathway. (The description of the site (release) is based on information available at the time the site was scored. The description may change as additional information is gathered on the sources and extent of contamination. See FR 5600, February 11, 1991 or subsequent FR notices.)
Needless to say, this website has an enormous number of sites all around the country, downright frightening!
Keep that Brita full, Amy! ;)
Hugs, Littleenki
Quote from: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 02:38:38 PM
We have one of these within twenty miles in Tarpon Springs, FL, and although they say it's cleaned up the water coming from the banks of the Anclote River nearby at low tide has an oily sheen and smells of chemicals still. The federal authorities insist that it isnt anything to worry about, but as a fisherman in that very river, Ive seen a marked decline in the quality of fish, and a definite change in the size average of them, too.
http://scorecard.goodguide.com/env-releases/land/site-desc-long.tcl?epa_id=FLD010596013 here in Tarpon Springs....
http://scorecard.goodguide.com/env-releases/land/site.tcl?epa_id=NYD001533165#maps There in Suffolk county...
POLLUTION LOCATOR| Superfund | Site Description
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Suffolk County Epa report on the groundwater there:
Site Name: SMS INSTRUMENTS, INC.
EPA ID: NYD001533165
Conditions at proposal (October 15, 1984): SMS Instruments, Inc., overhauled military aircraft components in Deer Park, Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, New York, between l97l and l983. The site consists of a one-story building occupying 34,000 square feet on a l.5-acre lot that is largely paved. Industrial wastes generated from degreasing and other refurbishing operations were routinely discharged to a leaching pool on-site. In l979-80, the Suffolk County Department of Health detected solvents in the pool. The county installed monitoring wells, which proved to be contaminated with 1,1,1-TRICHLOROETHANE. Ground water is the only water supply source in the area. A public well field and pump station are less than 1 mile south, the general direction of ground water flow. Over 10,000 people draw drinking water from wells within 3 miles of the site. In March l980, the county issued a modified Consent Order to SMS. Violations at the site included effluent discharges in excess of ground water standards and criteria, improper storage and disposal of hazardous wastes, and failure to apply for a State Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit. Subsequent investigations at the site during l98l revealed 70 drums stored outdoors unprotected, some showing evidence of corrosion and leakage. Also in l98l, an underground 6,000-gallon jet fuel tank failed a pressure test, suggesting an additional threat to ground water. The site is 75 feet above sea level. Topography is generally flat with the exception of a steep embankment leading to a large basin 50 feet from the eastern property line. The basin recharges ground water. The headwaters of Sampawams Creek, which feeds into Guggenheim Lakes, lie l mile southeast. Belmont Lake State Park is less than 2 miles south-southwest. The immediate vicinity is light industrial, but predominant land use in the surrounding area is commercial and residential. Approximately 5,000 residences are within l mile of the site. Several schools are to the south. Status (June 10, 1986): EPA is considering various alternatives for this site.
Not to say this is the issue you are having specifically, but just to point out how the confidence of the EPA is lacking, as thats what they said about our superfund site her, and personally, I have seen the inversion of such a report, with nasty smelling water in the river and residents who tell me there animals have a high rate of cancers.
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Heres our site, the Stauffer Chemical plant directly on the Anclote River.
Site Name: STAUFFER CHEMICAL CO. (TARPON SPRINGS)
EPA ID: FLD010596013
Florida Stauffer Chemical Co. is located in an industrialized area between Anclote Boulevard and the Anclote River in Tarpon Springs, Pinellas County, Florida, about 1.6 miles east of the Gulf of Mexico. Stauffer purchased the 160-acre facility from Victor Chemical Works in 1960. The facility's ownership has changed several times; it is currently owned by Stauffer Management Co. From 1950 to 1981, the facility manufactured elemental phosphorus from phosphate ore. The processed ore was shipped off-site to be used primarily for production of agricultural pesticides, food-grade phosphates, and flame retardants. During the years of operation, a number of processing wastes were disposed of on the site. A system of seven unlined lagoons, about 600 feet from the Anclote River, received discharges of waste scrubber liquid and phosphorus water, as well as overflow from a CALCIUM silicate slag pit. At some time, two of the lagoons were dredged, and the dredged material, composed of CALCIUM sulfate/sulfite, CALCIUM silicate, CALCIUM FLUORIDE, phosphate sand, and calcined phosphate dust, was placed in two piles approximately 40 feet from the Anclote River. Other on-site disposal activities included the dumping of furnace dust in an isolated pond and the burial of 900 drums of calcined phosphate sand consisting of 20% elemental phosphorus. Over 500,000 tons of chemical process wastes were disposed of on the site between 1950 and 1979. The site is underlain by a surficial aquifer composed primarily of sand and the Floridan Aquifer composed of limestone. Water is reached at an average depth of 8 feet below land surface. The Floridan Aquifer is encountered at 17 to 37 feet and is approximately 100 feet thick in the area of the site. On-site monitoring wells into both aquifers are contaminated with BARIUM, CHROMIUM, LEAD, VANADIUM, ZINC, COPPER, and ARSENIC, according to EPA tests conducted in 1988 and 1989. The 1989 tests found these metals in the on-site waste piles. An estimated 8,500 people in the Tarpon Springs area receive drinking water from 23 public wells and 3 private wells located within 4 miles of the site. Because of the depths of the aquifers, all drinking water wells within 4 miles of the site are potential targets. EPA's 1988 and 1989 tests also detected most of the same HEAVY METALS in the Anclote River. Surface water runoff from the facility could flow south/southwest and enter the Anclote River, which is used for fishing. From there, the Anclote River flows 1.6 miles and empties into the Gulf of Mexico. Although no surface water intakes are located along the drainage pathways of the site, numerous county parks, State parks, and beaches are present and are extensively used. In addition, several wetlands that support a number of endangered and protected species are located along the surface water pathway. (The description of the site (release) is based on information available at the time the site was scored. The description may change as additional information is gathered on the sources and extent of contamination. See FR 5600, February 11, 1991 or subsequent FR notices.)
Needless to say, this website has an enormous number of sites all around the country, downright frightening!
Keep that Brita full, Amy! ;)
Hugs, Littleenki
Oh, dear. Oh dear, oh dear. Yeah... I don't know if Britta does anything for trichlorowhatzit, but SOMETHING is making Me not at top notch.
I can hardly wait to get out of here to someplace clean! I can only hope that You'll be there too!
Boy oh boy! GA is looking pretty good!
Honestly you probably wont see me there until the S really hits the F, and we have a plan, thats all I can say.
I would welcome living anywhere like that, and rest assured, you will be safe and sound there.
I would, if I were you, brush up on some gardening lessons if you dont already know how, and maybe study some websites on triage and outdoor health care.
Also, where that site is, is on a creek, checking out some hydroelectric tech isnt a bad idea, too.
With your ability to learn and learn quick, youll be the biggest asset to the group, and will fit right in.
And of course if there was one thing I would pray for in your behalf, it would be the safe return of your daughter to your household.(yes I do pray, just to the collective:))
That you deserve more than anything!
Drinking a big glass of Zephyrhills now!LOL!
http://www.zephyrhillswater.com/#/home
Mmmm, not bad!
Cheers!
Dave
Amaterasu
can i suggest something?
have you ever heard of Dr. Emoto?
you can try this..doesn't cost anything and might be beneficial for you
you can change the water yourself with simply your intent..
if you decide to give it a shot..let us know what you think
hugs
maybe this will help
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm
REIKO: Have you seen any difference between one person praying over water versus a whole group of people praying over water?
DR. EMOTO: Since the water reflects the composite energy of what is being sent to it, the crystalline structure reflects the composite vibrations of the group. So one person praying reflects the energy or intention of that one person. In terms of how powerful the effect can be, if you have one person praying with a deep sense of clarity and purity, the crystalline structure will be clear and pure. And even though you may have a large group of people, if their intention as a group is not cohesive, you end up with an incohesive structure in the water. However, if everyone is united together, you will find a clear, beautiful crystal, like one created by the prayer of a single person of deep purity.
In one of our experiments, we had some water on a table, and 17 participants all stood in a circle around a table holding hands. Then each of the participants spoke a beautiful word of their choice to the water. Words like unity, love, and friendship. We took before-and-after shots and were able to obtain some beautiful crystalline structures as a result of this. I have some slides that I will be showing of these crystals in my upcoming European tour.
REIKO: Is the water influenced immediately, or is there a time lag?
DR. EMOTO: In these cases we would freeze the water right away, so we could say that the water is changed instantaneously.
That stuff is true, Amy, and Sky is right on!
I saw a video once where they meditated over a source of water, and then froze it, and the crystals were so perfect it was clearly a big difference.
See it if you can, but I wasnt able to get the sound to work on the link.
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 03:11:07 PM
Boy oh boy! GA is looking pretty good!
Honestly you probably wont see me there until the S really hits the F, and we have a plan, thats all I can say.
I would welcome living anywhere like that, and rest assured, you will be safe and sound there.
I would, if I were you, brush up on some gardening lessons if you dont already know how, and maybe study some websites on triage and outdoor health care.
Also, where that site is, is on a creek, checking out some hydroelectric tech isnt a bad idea, too.
With your ability to learn and learn quick, youll be the biggest asset to the group, and will fit right in.
And of course if there was one thing I would pray for in your behalf, it would be the safe return of your daughter to your household.(yes I do pray, just to the collective:))
That you deserve more than anything!
Drinking a big glass of Zephyrhills now!LOL!
http://www.zephyrhillswater.com/#/home
Mmmm, not bad!
Cheers!
Dave
Well, I'm not sure how good at gardening I am... Given I can't kneel without pain, can't bend over for long without pain, work with much more pressure than a keyboard puts on My hands without pain... Maybe I will be healed of this damn "rheumatological condition." I may hope! Had it since I was "vaccinated" as a child. It's not rheumatoid arthritis, it's not lupus, but the head of rheumatology at Kaiser in Los Angeles (WAY back when I first looked into why I had so much pain) said He didn't have a name for it, but with the heat, slight swelling and pinkening of the joints, I definitely have a "rheumatological condition."
Only medicine I will take for it, sadly, is illegal. But it works like a charm.
I have used that medication in the past, as well, Amy, and it did offer some relief.
As I dont use it anymore, I notice a bit more stiffness, and have found hydration is the key. Also, I take a chondroitin supplement and a liquid sublingual vitamin to offset the change in diet I often experience while travelling.
And I always have two cases of Zephyrhills water in my van storage compartment.
Somedays I miss that special medication, but then just get on my treadmill, and limp my way to looseness! ;)
I hope you find relief in the plains of GA, as the weather there is amazing, and dont fret, there will be many hands to help, and you will have a special place and duty there no matter what it is!
I like the job of Social and Philisophical consultant, to new arrivals, to clear their heads of the bad thoughts they may bring, and show the what abundance is all about!
You have shown me with aplomb, and Im takin' it to the bank(food bank that is).
I guess Im saying you would be the teacher, and we all would be the students!
Care for an apple? ;)(organic of course!) :)
Cheers!
Littleenki
Seems My software skills are of use... [smile]
And I miss My medication greatly. Some of My best work and understandings have come while medicated. (Including all of The End of Entropy, I might add...) It does promote neurogenesis, so... [shrug]
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 07, 2012, 02:10:42 AM
Seems My software skills are of use... [smile]
And I miss My medication greatly. Some of My best work and understandings have come while medicated. (Including all of The End of Entropy, I might add...) It does promote neurogenesis, so... [shrug]
Your cool, Amy! Admitting the truth that it makes some good ideas get better is good, as that really happens, doesnt it? I dont miss the other aspects of it...illegality, weezing on the treadmill, affording it(ack!), but I did make some really unique jewelry when medicated!
Hope you have a comfy night!
littleenki
Quote from: Littleenki on June 07, 2012, 04:10:40 AM
Your cool, Amy! Admitting the truth that it makes some good ideas get better is good, as that really happens, doesnt it? I dont miss the other aspects of it...illegality, weezing on the treadmill, affording it(ack!), but I did make some really unique jewelry when medicated!
Hope you have a comfy night!
littleenki
Carl Sagan said most of HIS best ideas were while medicated... He was a big fan of the medication. So I am in good company!
Also... It's an awesome stress reliever. Those who "just want to get high" really just want to relieve stress.
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 07, 2012, 06:55:23 AM
Carl Sagan said most of HIS best ideas were while medicated... He was a big fan of the medication. So I am in good company!
Also... It's an awesome stress reliever. Those who "just want to get high" really just want to relieve stress.
If it's good for CS its ok with me! I never got beat up or ran over by a high person.
They are always smiling and happy.
I wonder what CS has in his pocket right now?
LOL! Probably some alien munchies, like Mars chips, or Venus cookies!LOL!
Ok time for red bull!
:D
Le
I think I was the only kid in my class which never bothered to " get high" at least once. And I can't really tell you why. Certainly not because I was not approving of it.... Remember it was the sixties.... Haight Ashbury.... I would visit for even short periods of time and have to wash the smell of pot from my hair.
Why didn't I partake? I have no idea.
Well maybe... I just didn't like the idea of smoking... never have.... and you know... thats generally what was offered.... and the other forms of " getting high" just scared me.
I thought.... if I can " trip out" the way I do..... Naturally... then I sure as heck don't want any kind of enhancement to that!
"Morgan" went to Antioch before he got into
Dads group.... thats probably enough said. Used to write to me about getting high and watching the sun come up over one of the dorms....<g>..walked with him recently over the same paths that he used to write to me about and I could see him there.... strange...... I have a feeling that he put most of that away when things really got serious around him... but my visit to New York City in 1966... New years eve... I was probably the only sober one on the whole block of Lower East Side! Its pretty darned interesting when you are the only one who ISN"T high..... overheard as one fellow was leaving a group who were in sleeping bags on the floor ( you had to step over them. scuse me scuse me etc..... and the guy said..... " You want me to wake you up before I leave or after I leave?" I said.... YOU PICK.)
Rose when we expand our book there are some things that need to be included! ::)
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/49963
Linda