(http://thetruthbehindthescenes.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ufo-2-jets.jpg)
Apparently the original call for the fighters was a distress called placed by a Helicopter pilot reiterating a possible hijack scenario, oddly enough, the very next day of this incident, the RAF was indformed that they could no longer fly over the air space in that location due to a pair of Osprey during their hatchling time...WTH>. and if that wasn't enough for bad credit to a government deniable story, there were photo's of this event from 2 different perspectives of the Fighter's in chase of the UFO in question..
QuoteRAF ban for birds
RAF bosses yesterday banned their jets from flying over a training area where a pair of ospreys are nesting.
They feared the din would scare off Monty and Nora and stop them breeding in Mid Wale's Dyfi Valley.
The no-fly zone will last till September, when any chicks should have flown the nest.
With thing's like this happen, it just irks me with no end of understanding why these types of incidences have to be a weather balloon, swamp gas or any other excuse they want to throw out there for fodder for the multitudes. It not only allows us to think that these PT B's are questioning our intellectual ability but also allows us to see the direct Lie's involved with these reports and sighting's from various government's from around the world.
I cannot validate these photo's being genuine, but I am going to forward them to Sgt.RocknRoll and see if he can pick up anything resembling a hoax or CG applied to these photo's.
There are a few links associated with this story and topic, so I will post the one I have found and you will have to click your way to the actual area of this sighting and deployment of the military aircraft.
Educating Humanity
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2012/04/ufo-sighting-2012-jets-scramble-after.html (http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2012/04/ufo-sighting-2012-jets-scramble-after.html)
The SUN
QuoteTWO RAF Typhoon jets that rocked five counties with their sonic boom were at the centre of a UFO riddle last night.
Note that there are photo's of the "Sock like" object available at the SUN article posted below as well.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4256091/Sonic-boom-as-jets-investigate-UFO.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4256091/Sonic-boom-as-jets-investigate-UFO.html)
So, with everything said and done, "Are the bird's the reason for the excuses given, or is there a far more airbrushed area here for to keep us citizens out of the loop once again?"
I will ask SgtRocknRoll to post his finding's here, regardless of this being hoaxed, faked or CG'ed
1Worldwatcher
Wow. Nice pics! I agree. It's amazing what weather balloons can do! Look like discs, maneuver around chasing aircraft. Yet They can keep a straight face telling Us that's what it was. Geez. No, We're NOT that stupid.
Nice catch 1WW.
Nothing on the news about it in my neck of the woods (of course) so thanks for sharing this.
The best chance of confirming the photos is to track down the jet pilots for confirmation, and local residents that may have also witnessed the event.
CGI manipulation is only detectable if performed by ametuers.
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 20, 2012, 06:58:13 PM
Wow. Nice pics! I agree. It's amazing what weather balloons can do! Look like discs, maneuver around chasing aircraft. Yet They can keep a straight face telling Us that's what it was. Geez. No, We're NOT that stupid.
Hi Amaterasu,
Yes, I agree that these photos are quite incredible to just right off as some kind of none existant happening, but with limited ability, I a wait the Sgt to come up with his side of the story. His CAD apps are really high quality, and he is not the type to frost a cake unworthy of frosting, if you get my drift.
1Worldwatcher
Quote from: A51Watcher on May 20, 2012, 07:04:54 PM
Nice catch 1WW.
Nothing on the news about it in my neck of the woods (of course) so thanks for sharing this.
Was hoping to see you here A 51!! I knew this would be right up your alley, but didn't want to post this thread information into your post of the Mexico saucers. I am glad you like the story and the pictures, I am currently waiting for approval of sharing the entire story from the Sun right now, copyright infringements suck the big one!! LOl
But, when and if they contact me, I will be sure too post anything I can get my hands on about this militarily denied story ASAP.
QuoteThe best chance of confirming the photos is to track down the jet pilots for confirmation, and local residents that may have also witnessed the event.
CGI manipulation is only detectable if performed by ametuers.
I have Sgt looking into this right now, though he is a very busy man at the 'Farside of the Moon' thread, he has taken the time to look at other thing's I have provided for him, he has a strenuous life style with family to bare in mind. He is great at what he does, and I have asked him too post 'Any' results he may have on these particular photo's and his opinion of them as well.
Either way A51, hope to see you around here with some more explanation of this incidence, it is quite mind blowing.
And by the way, they do not list the pilots names or anything via a air traffic controllers radar read, "Do you think you can help with that?"
1Worldwatcher
Tracking down pilot identities and radar controllers is a tricky matter.
Unless the base commander is 'on your side' so to speak, you will get nothing from official channels, as laid out in security protocols.
Keep in mind this represents an invasion of sovereign airspace by a foreign craft, and as such security regarding any details will be tight.
I would think contacting the reporter who released the story would be a good place to start. Not only for further details that may not have been published, but also for asking tips on how to locate the pilots. Digging up details is their business after all and they may be helpful on how to go about it.
Getting pilots or radar men to talk if they have been ordered not to do so (per standard regulations regarding national security matters) may prove difficult. Since the weather balloon story is being offered as explanation, it appears we already know how much cooperation can be expected from official channels.
Going door to door in the area might locate a witness who had seen the incident but didn't get pictures, who might be able to confirm the shape seen.
Well, there goes that idea!! LOL I live in the US so, no vacation time to use and it is going to take a chunk of change to do this kind of trip...LOL
I am awaiting for a reply via the Sun, but this can take quite a long time, and that is just to be provided to the full article for posting here.
The protocol for these types of militarily performed operation's I am totally aware of. We have our own issues here with government none friendly disclosures statements as well.
The "HUSH-HUSH" campaign has now begun, again...... ::)
1Worldwatcher
Well, I Don't have photoshop, so all I Have is my Paint apps to try and get these fighter's chasing a UFO more visible by Zooming and inverting color application fro the original photo's from above.
Came across some very percurious objects as they look to be artifacts of disturbed air around both of the fighter's and the object in question.
If you look closely at the first photo, you can see there is Motion around the UFO and the fighters that seem to be accurate between one another for air flow disruption, but always wanting a new pair of eye's to validate my perception's.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/2RAFchaseUFO400Xinverted.jpg)
The next one is of the PIP of the large photo, the thing that stuck out to me is that there is a pixelation issue right above the UFO and it can be seen as a brown square, I don't know much about hoaxing pictures, and the ambient disturbance is accurate to that around the fighters once again, but that one area of darker pixelation has me a but baffled.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/RAFUFOCHASE400XsinvertedPIPpicture.jpg)
Does anyone know what can cause this type of artifact of pixelation?
Still haven't heard from the 'Sun' yet, hopefully soon with permission to get more details of this event taking place.
1Worldwatcher
Edited for photo modifaction 1WW ;)
I have this video somewhere, it came out quite awhile ago. have to look for it.
Maybe I can insert a FTP link, will ave to look into doing that.
deuem
Quote from: deuem on May 21, 2012, 08:30:02 AM
I have this video somewhere, it came out quite awhile ago. have to look for it.
Maybe I can insert a FTP link, will ave to look into doing that.
deuem
Wow! I didn't even know there was video of this incident, if you could provide that for me , it would be appreciated immensely!!
I am currently awaiting for the Sun too get back in touch with me for permission to use the info, so I wouldn't be so quick just yet as to post it. If you would like too, I would love to see the footage, just have to wait until we get copyright infringements off the table.. LOL
I know this happened a few months ago, but do you know anything more about this incident personally? Love to hear what you have and really want to see that video deuem!! ;)
1Worldwatcher
I put the video out at my FTP site and arranged guests pass for TLM
https://www.drivehq.com/ (https://www.drivehq.com/)
Username: thelivingmoon
Password: deuem
Find the folder video.>click open> Find the video>right click and copy> paste to your computer. Better yet, try the Action Icon>right click it>download,> this should open a save as box and then go from there depending on where you have downloads sent it should be there.
It is an AVI file. Now you have it. ( if it worked )
I have no idea where I got the original; I know it is not me filming. Maybe it is on UT with that title.
If I am breaking any TLM rules please delete this post and let me know. The site above is my Deuem site I use for friends and others to send me large files. Once the file has been transferred we delete the file. You are only seeing the guest site.
Deuem
Thanks so much deuem, I really am anxious to watch this video, I wasn't aware of there being any video as I had said before, but this incident is quite spectacular none the less.
With Great Appreciation,
1Worldwatcher
Were you able to download and watch it?
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on May 21, 2012, 09:54:44 AM
Were you able to download and watch it?
Deuem
My sound cards and media devices are screwed up right now, I am burning it and then watching it on my DVD player, have to go to the dr.'s shortly, so am getting ready to go, but will let you know what I think of it when I log on next time deuem... Thanks again!! 8)
1Worldwatcher
Pretty sure I saw this somewhere and thrilled to have a copy. thanks!
0CD
I haven't had time to read the whole thread. However, this is old footage. There was an ATS thread discussing it. I think the conclusion was CGI but I don't remember how we reached that point.
Quote from: Pimander on May 21, 2012, 12:49:32 PM
I haven't had time to read the whole thread. However, this is old footage. There was an ATS thread discussing it. I think the conclusion was CGI but I don't remember how we reached that point.
"Really Primander?" What a let down, I do see artifacts, but I am not sure if it is due to the movement of the fighter's and the UFO or if there was something amiss with a possible CGI application.
Have you ever seen the footage then Primander? I haven't got a chance to watch it yet, can't even burn it to DVD CD right now too see it, what a let down if this is a proved hoax.
But, if the Sun gives me privies to the article, and I know the Sun is rather a shall we say, sometimes misinformed tabloid, it is possible for sure. But to research these types of thing's is something a guy like me wants to look into farther, just don't want to waste my time if it is a known hoax.
Thanks for the heads up Primander, good stuff to know right there!! ;)
If you can provide any evidence to this being a hoax that has been proved, I would appreciate it so this thread can die and we can move on!! 8)
1Worldwatcher
I looked and looked and looked and the only thing I could find that look suspicious to me was the pixelation around all the objects. What stood out most was the pixels 'flowed' around the fighters and the pixels appeared to be a rectangle around the UFO. Also the number of pixels in the UFO where somewhat smaller than the surrounding sky, which, IMO, smacks of a paste. Without further info, if I had to bet my life on it, I'd say it was faked....
Peace 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 22, 2012, 12:34:00 AM
I looked and looked and looked and the only thing I could find that look suspicious to me was the pixelation around all the objects. What stood out most was the pixels 'flowed' around the fighters and the pixels appeared to be a rectangle around the UFO. Also the number of pixels in the UFO where somewhat smaller than the surrounding sky, which, IMO, smacks of a paste. Without further info, if I had to bet my life on it, I'd say it was faked....
Peace 8)
Thanks so much for replying Sgt. I was hoping you would use your software to detect these as fakes as well, Primander is a credited with such thing's and he too says it was a hoaxed, CGI faked incident.
Not only that , I have yet to hear anything from the Sun over the incident even taking place.
So much darn disinformation out there, it becomes hard to detect reality from an illusion that these type's of folks create.
Now, to weed the garden a bit longer, was hoping this was a real encounter and authentic photo's of the incident......."Time to move on."
Thanks again Sgt. and Primander,saved me a lot of search and collect time...LOL ;)
1Worldwatcher
I can't be sure this is the same one I mentioned as a I can't find it. However, I suspect fake too based on suspect pixelation.
Deuem : that account , is it like open for everyone ? since you posted your login etc :)
I'm really curious about watching it:) If i may[grin]
Quote from: Cyanhide on May 23, 2012, 05:23:01 PM
Deuem : that account , is it like open for everyone ? since you posted your login etc :)
I'm really curious about watching it:) If i may[grin]
Yes, I made that an open account just for TLM. If you know the path you can get in. If you want to watch it you will have to download it. It is just a file sharring area. This livingmoon account is a sub folder of the Deuem account. It is set up with a 500mb limit so I will keep things there until the room is needed for the next new thing.
By the way any of you can do this, they offer a free side of their file storage with 1 open acount. I like FREE. The FTP side of it is very fast.
Enjoy,
Deuem
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 20, 2012, 06:58:13 PM
Wow. Nice pics! I agree. It's amazing what weather balloons can do! Look like discs, maneuver around chasing aircraft. Yet They can keep a straight face telling Us that's what it was. Geez. No, We're NOT that stupid.
I am, that looks like a disc shaped kite being flown by a couple of bored air traffic contollers! :o
Well, really they dont need to protect those birds as it looks like the birds have a secret admirer!
Littleenki
I have taken upon myself too see if there was any validation's of this being a hoaxed incident or a fact real footage shot by a passer by. I have found nothing, and I mean "Nothing" stating this is a hoaxed video. Though there are these types of speculations over the footage, even Nick Pope spoke out on behalf of the incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H2oIoIT6nk
Now, there were some other videos that were suppied as well, from these witnesses that had the opportunity to witness this event, I had too go deeper, with no reply from the 'Sun' tabloid for this being either/or, I have to rely on what is out there for discussion too this event being a real event. 0:57 secs is not a long time of footage, but check this out for yourselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmeqXIpPik
The most striking statement Nick Pope makes id the reaction of the MOD over this issue, if it were valid national security breach, it would have been covered up, but on the other hand, if this is factual footage, the MOD would not be able to disclose the event one way or another, so much good footage and no real answer's, I am trying to contact Mr. Pope too see if there is anything more of this event brought forth for debate, but I have not heard anything from him either. I will not stop trying to get resolve of this, just an 'Unbelievable' incident, but may be of a real scenario.
1Worldwatcher
The video footage in the last post is not the same as the footage that was found to be suspect on ATS. That is my mistake. The still looked similar but the video is not the same one at all.
Sorry.
I'm interested in any further analysis of he film.
Quote from: Pimander on May 25, 2012, 03:15:33 AM
The video footage in the last post is not the same as the footage that was found to be suspect on ATS. That is my mistake. The still looked similar but the video is not the same one at all.Sorry.I'm interested in any further analysis of he film.
Primander, Can you take a look by stopping the video, and pointing the mouse t teh very end of the video, 0:56-57 secs, Tell me, "What do you see, and am I seeing what is happening at that moment correctly?"
Also, there is a moment when the Fighters fly in off of shot, they seem to be corilated as a flight path would be, but there seems to be a gap , if I am seeing what is happening at 56-57, it seems that the UFO disappears..
This might be a CGI effect if so, but it looks as if it tumbles when watched in real time with the video.
1Worldwatcher
I'm not sure the apparent disappearance of the UFO is suspect. The UFO appears to accelerate upwards in real time which makes it look as if it has disappeared.
It is the enlarged pictures you posted in reply 7 that look odd to me. The pixels in the planes and UFO look larger that the sky. However, I am no expert at image analysis so there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation for that.
I think we need someone with more expertise to look at the film to see whether the planes and/or UFO have been added. If the pixels look odd in the film then I'd say it's a fake.
Another thing, that someone on You Tube pointed out, is that there is no time delay before the noise of the jets. They do look to be moving very quickly at some distance away unless the planes are nearer than they appear. It would take time for the sound to travel that distance to reach the camera microphone.
What do other members think. Would there be a sound delay at the speed and distance in the film? Surely some of the military members can estimate better than I can?
Well, as for the sound, it would depend on a few thing's, bu for the most part, they seem to be spot in with the video er and the panning of the camera. When they enter the frame of question, they seem to realise that the target is right there, this is when the UFO seems to disappear, the only other thing I can think why this would happen, the UFO reacted to slowly to realise that the fighters were too close and aborted cloaking or just wasn't seeing the fighters coming.
With the videotog rapher being in that particular perspective, it really helps size the object, the Fighters are smaller than the object, but not by much, I need to know for sure what kind of fighters those are before I can make correct analysis of size ratio's , I can even figure out speed once I have this, bu the perspective of the incoming Fighter's is too blurred too make an educated guess even. "Do you or anyone else know for sure what type of fighters these are?"
Very interesting research on this so far, but still haven't gotten a Tad bit of resolution from any sources yet. F-16, F-18, I am not sure.
I think you are right about the video not being the same as the still photo's Primander, they are way different, so, either someone else had a different front row seat to the event, or , these are two different examples entirely..
1Worldwatcher
The UT vid posted here is not the match for the photos, That vid is from the English chase down some highway. The one I linked to is the correct one.
If some one can figure out what jets they are and post a simple detail blueprint of the jet sizes, I can calculate the UFO size and speeds of all. Even a distance. We just need the jets specs and then photo plane the pictures at the jets.
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on May 25, 2012, 09:09:45 AM
The UT vid posted here is not the match for the photos, That vid is from the English chase down some highway. The one I linked to is the correct one.
If some one can figure out what jets they are and post a simple detail blueprint of the jet sizes, I can calculate the UFO size and speeds of all. Even a distance. We just need the jets specs and then photo plane the pictures at the jets.
Deuem
Yes, I had requested this info in an earlier post, it would allow to determine the actual sizes and speeds they are travelling. With that info, I would be hard pressed to find out that they are not what they seem to be.
I had downloaded the video you had given me Deuem, but it is not the best, I only recorded the sounds, no video. "Do you still have the video?" or did you post it in the thread? Can't remember, but I will check for It, now my PC is running on all cylinders!! LOL
1Worldwatcher
1ww, I still have it and can try a reload, but I never took it down. It still should be there. Give me a few minutes. I will go out and check. If it is gone I will re add it. Go have a coffee.
Deuem
Deuem,
I went to the account and couldn't get it to work there either, is there a way to change format viewing for this video? I really, really want to see the original video for the original posted information...
I know your are a busy person with the Deuem technique and all, but seeing that video in it's entirety is killing me not being able too..lol
1Worldwatcher
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on May 25, 2012, 09:25:06 AM
Deuem,
I went to the account and couldn't get it to work there either, is there a way to change format viewing for this video? I really, really want to see the original video for the original posted information...
I know your are a busy person with the Deuem technique and all, but seeing that video in it's entirety is killing me not being able too..lol
1Worldwatcher
I just went to the site. it is there and I downloaded it to try. You have to download it, you can not view it there. It is just a file sharing site. In the second row after the title hold the right clicker down and pick download. After you have it. by all means check for infections then look at the name and fix the %% signs back to blanks. Or just rename it. This has to work for you. Maybe you did download it and it stuck it somewhere you can't find it. Did you set up your download configuration or are you on default. If so do a search.
Please tell me you got it. If not I will go back to the drawing board and figure it out.
Deuem
Hey Deuem,
Went to the file sharing, wont allow me to change percentages for either application of windows media, or windows media 11. Can't figure it out my friend.
Sorry to have too bother you... :-\
1Worldwatcher
QuoteWent to the file sharing, wont allow me to change percentages for either application of windows media, or windows media 11. Can't figure it out my friend.
You can download VLC Player for free. It plays all formats
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=736.msg7388#msg7388
Zorgon, can you get that video out of the file share location?
1WW check your email, I just sent the video there
I hope it works.
Deuem
Thanks Deuem,
Got the VLC player DL and ready, but will check the ole Email first!!
1Worldwatcher
Quote from: deuem on May 25, 2012, 10:23:45 AM
1WW check your email, I just sent the video there
I hope it works.
Deuem
Deuem, That is incredible footage my friend, blows my socks off,WOW, is all that comes to mind.
I am changing my thoughts on all these accounts being CGI, it is fantastical my friend!!
And thanks Zorgon for the DL info for VLC, works great and it didn't corrupt a thing... ;) And Zorgon, can you validate the craft for me as to what they really are, want to do some size configuration's on the object and the fighter's, see if everyhting fits nice and neat. "Have you watched any of the videos we have posted on this thread so far Zorgon??"
1Worldwatcher
Edited for content ;)
Quote from: deuem on May 25, 2012, 10:06:55 AM
Zorgon, can you get that video out of the file share location?
Yup took 2.3 seconds to d/l :P
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on May 25, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
"Have you watched any of the videos we have posted on this thread so far Zorgon??"
Saw this one at ATS... haven't studied it yet... one thing that bothers me is no comments from the film maker... I would be saying "Holy Crap" a lot while filming that :D
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on May 25, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
Deuem, That is incredible footage my friend, blows my socks off,WOW, is all that comes to mind.
I am changing my thoughts on all these accounts being CGI, it is fantastical my friend!!
And thanks Zorgon for the DL info for VLC, works great and it didn't corrupt a thing... ;)
1Worldwatcher
Well it took long enough. lol Now arn't you glad I saved it!
I am 90% the UFO guy with Orbs being in that mix. But I want UFOs! If you can get that video on line here it would help others. Who is the jet expert here? What are they and how big are they. I can do a frame by frame work up but I only want to do it once at the right size. I can even freeze the frames in a math gif or process them one at a time....Jet size?
deuem
Quote from: zorgon on May 25, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
Yup took 2.3 seconds to d/l :P
Good to know, then it is 1WW tha has a problem and not the share site.
There is 500mb there for us to use.
Deuem
Quote from: zorgon on May 25, 2012, 10:46:05 AM
Saw this one at ATS... haven't studied it yet... one thing that bothers me is no comments from the film maker... I would be saying "Holy Crap" a lot while filming that :D
I would think I would have been caught off guard Zorgon, just as he was, to bad there wasn't more footage though , but I am almost sure the video-grapher was left scratching his head if this was for real.
I see Vertical geometrical wing's on the fighters, F-16 Zorgon? Tom Cat maybe, happens fast for sure.
I also like the fact it was the same camera man with two different perspectives of the chase, bu tit really doesn't look like a chase to me, more like it was being escorted or something... ???
These are Typhoon class Fighters Deuem. It is stated in the story along with teh stills from the original story.
1Worldwatcher
Editted for content: Fighter type
(http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article815403.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/An+RAF+Typhoon+arrives+at+RAF+Northolt+in+west+London%2C+ahead+of+a+major+military+exercise+to+test+security+for+the+Olympic+Games)
These are not Typhoon's, they aren't near the same. What do you think Zorgon, F-16's or what?
1Worldwatcher
1WW, yes an escort, not a chase. They are flying in formation. The UFO even has the blinking tail light. By the way the video I posted is now in AVI. That means to me that long ago I changed it to AVI so I could play it in my DVD. So the original is gone. I checked. Maybe it was flash or mp4. You have the vid title, can you research it to see if you can get the original somewhere. Very hard for me to do here. Also in the video I see a store in the bend. Can anyone place that store by name?
I have been in situations that were far worse/better then this. ( not UFO related ) and I never said a word. I waited till the event was over, then the ya hoo! or the oh no! It all depends on the indiviual as to what they woud say if anything. I would not want to ruin the original sound track. I have heard a lot of people say a video is fake for just this reason. I can't get my hands around that one. What I would have done, what I would have said. As a researcher and person, I have to let that one go. I really don't know what anyone would say until it happened to them. If a sound track has been added or changed later, then that is a different story.
Deuem
I do have it saved in AVI Deuem, but I have to DL it to Photobucket to share , not unless you have another way, it is in my files.
I know it isn't a Typhoon class, It May be a FoxBat, but I am not sure, the only other one I can think of is the F-14 Tom Cat or F-16 with the vertical geometrical wing's, Stabilizers would be more accurate as well fo rthis class of fighter..
Mig25 has a different type of stabalizer than what is shown on picture's provided, but they are definitely not Typhoon's.
1Worldwatcher
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on May 25, 2012, 11:27:21 AM
I do have it saved in AVI Deuem, but I have to DL it to Photobucket to share , not unless you have another way, it is in my files.
I know it isn't a Typhoon class, It May be a FoxBat, but I am not sure, the only other one I can think of is the F-14 Tom Cat or F-16 with the vertical geometrical wing's, Stabilizers would be more accurate as well fo rthis class of fighter..
Mig25 has a different type of stabalizer than what is shown on picture's provided, but they are definitely not Typhoon's.
1Worldwatcher
I am going with F15 air force until I can get a clearer photo. The AVI, I have is worthless for still frames. So if you now have dug up an original, lets talk turkey.
As far as the video I noticed one thing to add to the pot. Lets say that there were a couple of F15s flying around and caught on film and then the UFO added. OK, now what I see. I have never seen 2 F15s or any other military jets fly side by side at low altitude unless in a formation of 3 or 5. It is dangerous to do. No room for the lead plane to maneuver. They always fly lead and wing. At least one or more jet lengths off the leaders wing so in case of an emergency the lead plane can turn in any direction. They are flying slowly and the swept wings are out.
1WW, if and when you locate the original high quality film, let me know. Even better email it to me.
I never tried to share a video in photobucket. I am hoping you can use the title to find the original and we can proceed from there.
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on May 25, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
I have been in situations that were far worse/better then this. ( not UFO related ) and I never said a word. I waited till the event was over, then the ya hoo! or the oh no! It all depends on the indiviual as to what they woud say if anything. I would not want to ruin the original sound track. I have heard a lot of people say a video is fake for just this reason. I can't get my hands around that one. What I would have done, what I would have said. As a researcher and person, I have to let that one go. I really don't know what anyone would say until it happened to them. If a sound track has been added or changed later, then that is a different story.
Deuem
Deuem, I am sorry, the AVI logo is just that in my Documents/Videos area, I tried to upload back to your storage, but it doesn't work, let me know what you would like me to do, and I will try again... Sorry.....Man, I just tried again and it wont let me through the settings, I had saved the one you sent over the existing video originally DL the other day, don't know what to do, other than you saving it to your pc and changeing formats? I feel so bad Deuem....:'(
1Worldwatcher
1WW, there is nothing wrong here. I will try it another way.
1) The video I have is AVI. it was converted to AVI the original was most likely MP4
2) I only put a copy on the share site, not my copy.
3) you may delete it or use it as you please. I will never place an original there, just a copy.
4) The video name I gave you is different that the treads name
5) The name on the video is the same name as I downloaded it a year ago.
6) Using the name of the video, can you now research it on line and see if you can find the original under that name.
7) If you can find a new better quality version, I would like that.
8 ) If you found said new version, could you then send me a copy of your new video to me via email.
9) 1WW, there is nothing wrong and you have caused no problems. Everything is fine. It seems to just be in the words I picked to write to you.
10) I wrote that the AVI duplicate copy I have on my computer is worthless for still frames. The compression is too much. I would need a better copy to do much more than just look at it.
11) You do not have to back up load that same video. I still have it....
Allis well in Deuem world Mr 1WW,
Deuem,
had me worried there, and I truly thank you for this footage.
I am leaning towards F-14, they have them in stock there and they are readily used for scramble situations. Then again, I have to go to an appointmetn os of right now, but I will dig into this deeper, Zorgon has a lot of knowledge of the Fighter types, so does A51 and ArMap, hopefully they will venture by with some absolutes.
1Worldwatcher
Hi All, I was able to dig a little deeper on this.
This video is posted 4 times on UT. It seems the original is by OODYLA
They have 2 videos on line.
We all know the UT comments. Like taking a walk through a mine field, so I just scan them for something that might pop out. Some are funny. One guy said that the second jet was a copy because it looked the same. Well I sure hope so, they are both the same plane. I know he meant copy and paste but it did sound funny. Others claim the noise is too low, others claim CGI but the one that caught my eye was the post about OODYLA. At 22 seconds you can see the name in the video.
OK, they also have a second UFO video out and again the OODYLA name is on a building this time in clear site.
I broke the OODYLA links myself. // change to .. if you want to see their silly site.
They want you to Google them www/oodyla/com (http://www.oodyla/com) Ok did that. they are a start up advertising company that is pushing on the edge videos to drive traffic to web sites.
The two UT videos are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz7FQ2NvBLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz7FQ2NvBLU)
second oondyla video is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_4Gi2VhIbA&feature=channel&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_4Gi2VhIbA&feature=channel&list=UL)
Then see www/oondyla/com (http://www.oondyla/com) and see if it adds up.
When I find things like this out it is disconcerting. People are out there to make a buck at our expense. Why did they not just push it as an ad so people would be happy and not hate them. I would never do business with a company like this and also if I had the power I would remove anything they did. If the intension is just to scam people to their site, how reliable are they?
Still it is good work and we should not dismiss it from hand yet. Maybe they just added the 2 signs ( hum? ) We should think about how they did it so next time we have more expertise when working on it. I had an open hour at UT. wow a once in a month shot so I did download both of the vids at 480res. If you want, yell for me......
Deuem
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on May 25, 2012, 12:12:02 PM
Deuem,
had me worried there, and I truly thank you for this footage.
I am leaning towards F-14, they have them in stock there and they are readily used for scramble situations. Then again, I have to go to an appointmetn os of right now, but I will dig into this deeper, Zorgon has a lot of knowledge of the Fighter types, so does A51 and ArMap, hopefully they will venture by with some absolutes.
1Worldwatcher
Definitely a hot pass from a pair of F-14s. But why a hot pass? They cant do anything reasonably threatening at those speeds with a stationary target unless they fire their missile way ahead of time.
Were they afraid of the craft, and trying to bait it away from the area?
If this is real, well, it would be the holy grail of footage for ufo researchers, and that sounds like a great way to attract people to your advertising site.Hey heres the proof...now buy this product!
As Im not a big researcher on UFOs, I wont be visiting any site linked with this video, as it just doesnt add up for me, sorry!
Cheers, and back on that dang fence:D
Littleenki
Deuem, really good find my friend.
I never even noticed the Logo, but went and seen for myself, found their disclaimer for their shock and awe videos:
QuoteWelcome to OONDYLA!
The economic crisis is now. Business is hard to manage.
But now you have an incredible opportunity to turn on a dime. oondyla.com is a great exhibition for every kind of company. Created by Robert Wilson it is a show-window where you can put the image of your company so that it can be seen by a lot of people all around the world. How can we do that? We believe in viral marketing. No, no virus this time. Viral marketing consists to create funny, incredible, shocking videos that run on the net showing the name oondyla worldwide! Viral marketing is the perfect way to reach a lot of people that could become your next customers.
So dont'be stuck....be on oondyla.com!
http://www.oondyla.com/WhoWeAre.html (http://www.oondyla.com/WhoWeAre.html)
Well, as they say " if it is too good too be true, it probably is.." and that is a wrap, Thanks for all your guy's input, have been with my youngest daughter this weekend, and could not get on for any amount of time this past couple days.
Thanks for all your kind posts, I will share thi sinfo with others as well Deuem, "Thank You" once again.
1Worldwatcher