For many years now I have promoted some simple concepts; that we create the reality we turn to meet by our thoughts and emotions, have promoted always being positive,optimistic, and happy in all things and situations...
never fear anything; fear is a highly negatively charged emotion; like begets like, amplifies the negative effects, draws more negativity to you, as does envy, greed, and hate...
worry also draws toward you exactly what you are worrying about...
be loving, kind, and compassionate in all you do; there is no need ever for revenge, retaliation, or to have a grudge...
the mind/intellect we each have can be our greatest strength and also our greatest failing, if we allow ego and strong negative emotions to control our actions...
seeker
Wise words, Seeker, as Im a big proponent of the collective thought, and the heart centered reality, that holds all the possible outcomes for us every day!
I have found in business and personal life, the effort made to be positive rubs off on everyone around, and defines who I am and try to be.
Every time I think I have it all figured out, the world throws me a curve, and the old me would swing and miss, but the new me, hits a home run every time. :)
It seems the way we can allow these thoughts to become our physical world, is to understand why the ability to make our reality is real, and apply it in every facet of life.
What we think in a positive or negative way, is what happens nearly every time, and thats the basis of what you have posed within this post...a necessity for some to be a part of, and a goal for others to improve.
Like I said, my friend... Wise words!
Happy evenin'
Littleenki
Quote from: the seeker on June 11, 2012, 04:05:56 AM
never fear anything; fear is a highly negatively charged emotion; like begets like, amplifies the negative effects, draws more negativity to you, as does envy, greed, and hate...
Excellent advice. I cast off fear about a decade ago and know My life is progressing much better for it (though the physical manifestations may not be apparent yet... [grin]).
I KNOW We will see a bright and glorious future, and I do all I can to ensure this.
Another part of this simple exercise of the will is to really look at all the programming we have been bombarded with since the birth of this current biological meat-sickle we reside in; to understand that, yes, the entire learning process is programming, that we all, after a certain stage, have the basic skill set to understand how to survive, and are quite capable of forming our own thoughts, theories, and speculation without the parameters imposed by the scientific methodology and preconceived ideals of those who profess to "know better" than everyone else...
we are bombarded constantly with programming; the six o'clock news should be entitled the six o'clock bad news, for 'tis very rare to ever see anything of a positive nature...
seeker
Right on, Seeker!
Dont forget about the 11 oclock sad sack report!
:)
Le
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 11, 2012, 06:05:37 AM
Excellent advice. I cast off fear about a decade ago and know My life is progressing much better for it (though the physical manifestations may not be apparent yet... [grin]).
I KNOW We will see a bright and glorious future, and I do all I can to ensure this.
A wise choice, Amy, my friend; I would be willing to wager that quite a few that have started to see the smoke behind the mirrors have begun to limit the amount of time spent in front of a television set; I wonder why I even own one, for it gets turned on for maybe 10-15 minutes in the morning so I can see the local weather forecast on the weather channel, and then is turned off again... I realised many years ago that it is a worse addiction than smoking or drinking for most, in fact is a highly effective programming tool that I do not wish to be a part of or exposed to...
keep the positive vision going; not just see it, but feel it, know it is happening...
Lil' E, you are correct, too, my friend; as we sow, so shall we reap...
seeker
hi Seeker
to be fear~less is to be in~joy
Quote from: the seeker on June 11, 2012, 04:05:56 AM
never fear anything; fear is a highly negatively charged emotion; like begets like, amplifies the negative effects, draws more negativity to you, as does envy, greed, and hate...
worry also draws toward you exactly what you are worrying about...
On that note... it is time....
The Secret (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=31.0)
The Secret Discussion Thread (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1525.0)
Quote from: the seeker on June 13, 2012, 03:20:42 AM
A wise choice, Amy, my friend; I would be willing to wager that quite a few that have started to see the smoke behind the mirrors have begun to limit the amount of time spent in front of a television set; I wonder why I even own one, for it gets turned on for maybe 10-15 minutes in the morning so I can see the local weather forecast on the weather channel, and then is turned off again... I realised many years ago that it is a worse addiction than smoking or drinking for most, in fact is a highly effective programming tool that I do not wish to be a part of or exposed to...
keep the positive vision going; not just see it, but feel it, know it is happening...
Lil' E, you are correct, too, my friend; as we sow, so shall we reap...
seeker
I haven't owned a TV in decades. Like...three of 'em. Well, that's not precisely true. My ex and I had a TV...but it was hooked up to the XBox and never once was watched for anything other than games. Never.
And I LIVE in the future. I see it, smell it, taste it, hear it, feel it. I am so totally there. And I will work for that future until I die - and I'm not sure even death will stop Me. All that will stop Me is success. And then... I plan a long and happy retirement!
Quote from: sky otter on June 13, 2012, 04:13:43 AM
to be fear~less is to be in~joy
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Never doubt-KNOW. Do not wish, or hope, see what you desire manifesting and KNOW it is a reality.
I AM- not I want.
I AM HEALTHY. I am prosperous. I am loved. Do all things from Passion and love.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
Z, my friend and brother, true words and ways for those seeking the truth...
Otter, Little sister, sow those seeds of wisdom...
seeker
Great idea for the Secret thread, Zorgon! It, like the down the rabbit hole movie, simplifies a complex subject into an easy to follow road to success. I have been a fan of being positive and thinking positive for decades, yet I havent made the effort to do it 24/7.
After seeing that clip, I ordered the dvd, as my wife asked if I would. She saw the clip, too, and said, hey I want to see that! I cant get her to take much interest in what I do, and who I associate with, and for a while now Ive been thinking forward about how grand it woud be if we could share this special change my life has taken. She took that step last night, ironically within minutes of seeing the 20 minute clip, and me thinking how great it would be if we could share the ride.
Well, with one fell swoop, I think she's a comin' round, cap'n!:D
I also must say, the growth of goodness everyone here on PRC seems to have taken recently is awesomely inspiring, and the way Zorgon, Amy, and Seeker have just pushed it to the next level is fantastic.
It really is hard to find people to communicate at this level with in my town, but they are here, and whats funny is as a part of Linkedin, I get these meetup emails, that say "join the Law of Attraction group in a nearby town".
I always thought they meant to put singles together and it was a dating group ??? so I avoided answering the messages, but now I see what theyre up to, and may join them for a meeting or two.
My personal thanks to all of you friends who have been here for me on PRC, as you guys have helped me grow so much in such a short time, I am forever indebted to you. Right now I am thinking the best thoughts about all of you, and how someday we will all meet for a big gathering somewhere beautiful.
And yes Amy, I do have a really nice TV that I always dreamed of having, yet I watch a total of maybe ten hours a week now, as spending my free time is done in an atmosphere I couldnt have fathomed a year ago...the atmosphere created by the best bunch of cool folks ever...PRC!
Well, my first new day has started with a bang, and as I watered a few plants and vacuumed the pool, the thoughts of prosperity have been flowing.
My current goal is to assemble a think tank of people like ourselves, who can make the effort of pushing for either windmill or solar energy improvement.
We all would be well paid by the grants from many philantropist's and even the government at first, and we will make the biggest push forward to become a strong part of the nations energy policy decisions.
Of course now we are little guys with big ideas, but soon these ideas will come to fruition, and we will all have the great knowledge in our hearts we achieved the ultimate goal, which to me still, as I told Amaterasu when we first met, is to Save the World and it's people from entropy.
A lofty goal? Worth it, and now more than ever in the last week, Ive become a lofty thinker!
Happy Mornin'
Littleenki
Maybe there is more than one type of fear.
Fear in my book keeps us alive. We all have it built in.
I have fear of being run over everytime I fire up my motorcycle and hit the street.
I have fear that the plane I am in will crash.
I fear that if I don't have money I will die of hunger.
I fear a lot of things except fear itself.
I have fear of sticking my fingers in a 220 Volt socket.
With no fear we would all die a quicker death.
It is fear that keeps us going. No?
Just because one knows fear does not mean it has to conrol you.
But it still should be respected.
I don't know how the negative/possitive thing works with fear but I think as long as you are balanced or more possitive, that is what counts. We need both emotions otherwise there is only one. Then what would that be one its own?
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on June 13, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
Maybe there is more than one type of fear.
Fear in my book keeps us alive. We all have it built in.
I have fear of being run over everytime I fire up my motorcycle and hit the street.
I have fear that the plane I am in will crash.
I fear that if I don't have money I will die of hunger.
I fear a lot of things except fear itself.
I have fear of sticking my fingers in a 220 Volt socket.
With no fear we would all die a quicker death.
It is fear that keeps us going. No?
Just because one knows fear does not mean it has to conrol you.
But it still should be respected.
I don't know how the negative/possitive thing works with fear but I think as long as you are balanced or more possitive, that is what counts. We need both emotions otherwise there is only one. Then what would that be one its own?
Deuem
Mornin' Dueum!
You can define those feelings you have in two ways.
Fear can be a constrictor, making the bad happen before your eyes.
Fear can be a distractor, making you drop that tool on your foot as soon as you think about it.
Fear can cause you to hesitate when you pull out on your motorcycle into traffic, causing a chain of effects you cant stop.
Etc Etc.
Fear isnt within a healthy mindset in any way shape or form, though, and when you see the true definition of what it is and how it can be squelched like a tiny matchflame, you will realize it has been replaced with something profoundly more powerful...
Awareness.
Replacing fear with awareness will create the perfect form of comfort, as everything will take on a shiny new look, and through this awareness, fear is no longer necessary or even possible.
You my friend are definitely at the level to demolish that wall of fear, and open the flood gates of awareness, and with one thought today, you will be free of fear forever, I promise!
Use this gold coin to symbolise the first fear free day of your life, Dueum, I know you can!
:)
As Mr Picard would say to Number One...Make it so!
Cheers!
Littleenki
LE, I still think knowing fear and using it is a good thing. If I have no fear of being run over, I would just drive out into that street with out looking. Sooner or later, Swuash one Deuem! I do use fear as a basis to see my way through life. If Godzilla was stomping down the street, would you fear him or walk right up to him and shake his hand. Me knowing that he likes to stomp people would register a fear in memory and keep me from doing stupid things like getting under his feet. We are mostly born with out fear, it is something learned as we grow up, with some exceptions. My point is that if you use it and not fear it, it can help. Maybe that is too optimistic but it got me this far and a lot of my friends are dead already. I don't want to mix being afraid with fear. Maybe that is the case here. Being afraid is no good. Knowing your fears and what to do with them can help.
Thanks for the gold coin. It is difficult to talk in a tag team forum. I bet if we were all around the table you would know exactly what I meant. My wife understands me and wishes I could teach her. She always tells everyone that Deuem fears nothing. And basically I don't because I have learned how to use it to my advantage. Does that make sense or am I losing it? Taking away my library of fear would leave me defenseless.
There is also a difference between if I had to and if I want too.
Deuem
Its my pleasure Dueum to share a bit o gold wit' ya'!!
If godzilla was coming down the raod, Id probably get stepped on trying to get my droid camera to open up quickly!LOL!
I think all folks will revert to fear in an emergency situation, and for myself, the biggest hurdle was in Oechi Ryu when my sensei would walk by and we never knew who was getting picked for Kata that day in front of the whole class! Not me, Not me!!!! :P
I have tried to instill that sense of awareness in place of fear, and it has worked well for me, and Im sure you arent afraid of much, so for you it's a few baby steps away from being fear free for good!
Please dont get squashed by a car, although if you did, the resulting color palette would be simply amazing!
I wonder if it would look like the Dueum version without the conversion? ???
Oooh grosss!
I will always have to be conscious of not allowing fear to invade my mind, and there is always that tiny point when something that should be frightening takes place, but so far Ive been able to apply this mantra with ease, and Im sure youll have no problem doing the same.
Funny, the other day some huge guy was running his mouth at a restaurant we were at, and annoying all the other patrons with his cussing and obnoxiousness. Everyone was petrified of the guy because of his angry demeanor and huge size.
I got up and walked over to his table, and calmly asked him to please stop being so loud and to stop cussing in front of all the kids who were in the place.
He stood up 6 inches taller than me and a hundred pounds heavier, and I didnt flinch.
I asked him..."what are you going to do, kick my ass?", as I placed my arms at 3 and 9 oclock with absolutely no fear at all, and he looked at me with steam coming out of his ears, and then just walked out of the place.
As I went back to finish my lunch everyone clapped and said, dude, youre nuts, and you have no fear do you?
I said, well life just seems to work better that way, and enjoyed the peace!LOL!!!!
Cheers, my friend!
Littleenki
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2012, 02:28:26 PM
I think all folks will revert to fear in an emergency situation,
Ah, this is what I don't do because of training. I seem to be best under these conditions because of the trained fear has turned into results for me.
QuoteI have tried to instill that sense of awareness in place of fear
This sounds very close to what I was writing, just sep it up a bit, those few steps.
QuotePlease dont get squashed by a car, although if you did, the resulting color palette would be simply amazing!
I wonder if it would look like the Dueum version without the conversion? ???
Oooh grosss!
Would not work, too much gray. Gray skin, gray brain matter, gray endtrails. Na! The program likes color.
QuoteI will always have to be conscious of not allowing fear to invade my mind
For me I would just change "invade" to the word "control" and we are on par.
The fact that it is there, is another thing I can use to my advantage.
When you let it be the boss, is when you lose.
Deuem
Indeed, D! On par we are!
And if you can change a grey piggy to pink, we can enhance those entrails for you, with a rainbow of color! Just not anytime soon, okay?
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2012, 01:02:02 PM
Great idea for the Secret thread, Zorgon! It, like the down the rabbit hole movie, simplifies a complex subject into an easy to follow road to success. I have been a fan of being positive and thinking positive for decades, yet I havent made the effort to do it 24/7.
After seeing that clip, I ordered the dvd, as my wife asked if I would. She saw the clip, too, and said, hey I want to see that! I cant get her to take much interest in what I do, and who I associate with, and for a while now Ive been thinking forward about how grand it woud be if we could share this special change my life has taken. She took that step last night, ironically within minutes of seeing the 20 minute clip, and me thinking how great it would be if we could share the ride.
Well, with one fell swoop, I think she's a comin' round, cap'n!:D
I also must say, the growth of goodness everyone here on PRC seems to have taken recently is awesomely inspiring, and the way Zorgon, Amy, and Seeker have just pushed it to the next level is fantastic.
It really is hard to find people to communicate at this level with in my town, but they are here, and whats funny is as a part of Linkedin, I get these meetup emails, that say "join the Law of Attraction group in a nearby town".
I always thought they meant to put singles together and it was a dating group ??? so I avoided answering the messages, but now I see what theyre up to, and may join them for a meeting or two.
My personal thanks to all of you friends who have been here for me on PRC, as you guys have helped me grow so much in such a short time, I am forever indebted to you. Right now I am thinking the best thoughts about all of you, and how someday we will all meet for a big gathering somewhere beautiful.
And yes Amy, I do have a really nice TV that I always dreamed of having, yet I watch a total of maybe ten hours a week now, as spending my free time is done in an atmosphere I couldnt have fathomed a year ago...the atmosphere created by the best bunch of cool folks ever...PRC!
Well, my first new day has started with a bang, and as I watered a few plants and vacuumed the pool, the thoughts of prosperity have been flowing.
My current goal is to assemble a think tank of people like ourselves, who can make the effort of pushing for either windmill or solar energy improvement.
We all would be well paid by the grants from many philantropist's and even the government at first, and we will make the biggest push forward to become a strong part of the nations energy policy decisions.
Of course now we are little guys with big ideas, but soon these ideas will come to fruition, and we will all have the great knowledge in our hearts we achieved the ultimate goal, which to me still, as I told Amaterasu when we first met, is to Save the World and it's people from entropy.
A lofty goal? Worth it, and now more than ever in the last week, Ive become a lofty thinker!
Happy Mornin'
Littleenki
Thank YOU, Dave. [smile] We are all blessed.
And You know MY push with energy - any free energy will do to eliminate the need for money. I just want My flying house. [grin]
I might point out that I don't have fear of sticking My finger in sockets...because I know I won't.
I don't fear being run over on My motorcycle (or didn't when I had one for 10 years), because I know I can handle it and survive should it actually happen (which it did a few times - and lo. I am here).
I don't fear the plane I am on will crash because I know that should it happen, I will be free of the struggle and have a clearer perspective.
I don't fear having no money - I have friends who will (and DO!) help Me.
I cannot FEAR these things. I do keep My eye out for any problems I can avoid - like when riding My bike back in the day, but fear? Nope.
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 13, 2012, 03:47:00 PM
I might point out that I don't have fear of sticking My finger in sockets...because I know I won't.
I don't fear being run over on My motorcycle (or didn't when I had one for 10 years), because I know I can handle it and survive should it actually happen (which it did a few times - and lo. I am here).
I don't fear the plane I am on will crash because I know that should it happen, I will be free of the struggle and have a clearer perspective.
I don't fear having no money - I have friends who will (and DO!) help Me.
I cannot FEAR these things. I do keep My eye out for any problems I can avoid - like when riding My bike back in the day, but fear? Nope.
Yep, right on! No fear is gonna get me down1
Oh BTW, If my plan comes to fruition...and it will...you are on tap as the VP of energy theory and advancement.
You would oversee every idea and theory that came into the group before anyone could make a decision to say yea or nay.
And your office would float above the hangar where our workshops would be, so you could watch the saving of the world in real time!
You would ride to work on the motorcycle of your choice, whether as the driver or in a beautiful cushy sidecar with those cool goggles the germans used to wear!
I cant wait for that day when we have all the pieces in place, and trust me, Amy, that day is coming fast!
Littleenki
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 13, 2012, 03:47:00 PM
I might point out that I don't have fear of sticking My finger in sockets...because I know I won't.
I don't fear being run over on My motorcycle (or didn't when I had one for 10 years), because I know I can handle it and survive should it actually happen (which it did a few times - and lo. I am here).
I don't fear the plane I am on will crash because I know that should it happen, I will be free of the struggle and have a clearer perspective.
I don't fear having no money - I have friends who will (and DO!) help Me.
I cannot FEAR these things. I do keep My eye out for any problems I can avoid - like when riding My bike back in the day, but fear? Nope.
I guess I am not writing this very well. What I tryed to say that there is a difference between fear and afraid.
Why would you not stick your finger in that socket? It may be off, What do you fear? Some time in your past life or lifes, we learned that this is not a good thing and took that fear and converted it to knowledge. When I ride my bike here, I only fear what the other driver is going to do because it is out of my control and learning curve. Past fears have taught me to swirve now and not wait to get hit. The plane again is a contol thing. If I was doing the flying everyone else could be in fear. but not me.
Seeing what happens to people with no money in some circumstances does set a fear up and changes how you wish to live life. It will either change you or you will die from no food. Right now I will pass on the die part. No Money, no one helping, like it is here. Why do you keep an eye out for any problems you can avoid. I would think that is from training caused by fear that you now use to your advantage. For some people this might take years, like going on a jet. For others it might take moments to pass.
I kind of thiink we are all saying almost the same things with just a different opinion on how we get there. What is the opposite of fear, strength? Ok, with out one is there another? How can you judge one by itself? It is good to hear that a lot of you live with no fear. My question is how to get there with out it.....
Deuem
This may be off the subject... but since its a pretty wide opening statement I have a thought on a popular saying which I find profoundly ...... OK..... stupid......
" Whatever doesn't kill you..... makes you stronger.!"
NO.... it doesn't . It just doesn't kill you.
Sometimes the experience is so profoundly dehabilitating that there is no actual recovery from it.
What you LEARN from bad experiences may make you stronger but thats generally because you should be wiser. And wisdom always makes a person stronger, either physically, mentally , spiritually or things not even counted yet.
Linda
Perfectly put, Linda!
What doesnt kill us we seek out and kill it, right? :o
LOL!
Human nature, we are a nasty lot, eh?
Le
Deuem, my friend, you seem to be confusing worry with fear; I am not afraid of dying, already been dead once over 30 years ago; but that does not mean that I don't use caution and awareness to safe guard my person; I realise that any time I choose to hop on a bike there is always a chance of being involved in an accident; same way with when I fly to meetings, or drive across country, or work on a scissor lift 40 feet in the air...
Fear is that paralysing emotion the can and will make you freeze in place, debilitate you to the point you cannot move or respond rationally...
the whole point is simply that we are co-creators of our paradigm; that our will, emotions, and desires create that which we face on the morrow...
I watched the "Secret" many years ago, and it tells the same hypothesis as I and others relate in simpler terms; believe in yourself, totally, without doubts, without fear, know that you are the force behind all that you draw towards you...
a person that has a fear of heights cannot work as I do at times, for their fear will cause them to either freeze up, panic, in some cases totally freak out...
continue onward, my friends, just stay totally focused and positive at all times; learn to love all things, even the people that demean you or cause harm; to react in any other way allows the dark side to win... 8)
seeker
Quote from: the seeker on June 13, 2012, 11:54:18 AM
I AM- not I want.
DO or do not... there is no try - Yoda
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2012, 02:28:26 PM
I think all folks will revert to fear in an emergency situation,
If all people reverted to fear in an emergency situation, there would be no one to rescue anyone.
I think the problem is the definition of fear. Perhaps we need a new word to name that protective instinct we all have that makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.
During an emergency situation, what happens to most people is not fear... it is shock. Shock of not know why this happened to them and shock of not knowing what to do.
During the EQ/Tsunami in Japan I watched that almost 24/7 for three months. One thing I noticed was the total helplessness of people.
They were cold and wet... yet there was firewood all around them from the damaged buildings...
They said they had no gas to send a working vehicle to bring aid, yet the country side was litered with cars that had gas in the tanks... but no one thought to syphon it off
It wasn't only about 4 weeks into it that some made shelters out of the debris, gathered wood for fires and boiled water for drinking
I even wrote the Japanese news network to ask why, but got no reply
So it shows that we have become so complacent as a society that people don't even have the basic survival skills they need for an emergency
Fear... the kind that makes you freeze up so you cannot function is very bad... If you have that when Godzilla is in da hood you will be squished :D
Fear... the kind that makes you worry about that airplane, about crossing that street... that will lead to anxiety and a big bill with a local shrink
THIS is the one that applies to the Law of Attraction... if you fret about it long enough, you will eventually draw it too you
On an airplane you can help your anxiety by sitting over the wing. It is the most stable part of the plane and the least bumpy in turbulence. It is also the most likely spot to survive a crash and it is near the emergency exit door :D Just keep the window closed during a storm, because the wings will look like rubber
Crossing the street... always be aware of the situation... Instead of worrying about that car, pay attention to all details. Just because you have a green light is no guarantee that the guy will stop at that red light
If your worried about getting schmoshed on a motor bike, maybe you are driving that bike irresponsibly :P
Worry is not quite fear, but that state of mind will cause you to miss some important detail that MAY cause you grief because your mind is elsewhere
Fear... as in being attune to danger around you. That is the term we need to change. It is more being alert and using that sixth sense we all have but few can call on at will. It is that sixth sense that keeps us alive... and it is clouded by fear, as fear in this case may make you leap before you look
;D
i've never understood worry
if you are worried about something you educate yourself on it
what would happen if
how would i handle it
what can i do to prevent it
and then you are as prepared as you can get and you let go of the worry
now fear is a whole other ballgame
if you are in an alterted state/dreaming/astral travel/etc and have something coming after you
yikes now what..
educate yourself again before hand or for the next time..only this time find out about yourself
who you REALLY are and how Powerful
and know that you really can handle anything tossed your way
but only if you know that..and truly it's all you have to know
recognize yourself and you are free
we are awesome
and remember these words
"Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself": FDR's First Inaugural Address
;D
Mornin' Zorgon,
I posted "I think all folks will revert to fear in an emergency situation, "
You replied "If all people reverted to fear in an emergency situation, there would be no one to rescue anyone."
Both true, Id say.
Many responders have a great deal of fear, they are just trained to suppress it whilest saving people who are injured or trapped, but rest assured, as a volunteer fireman for a while, I was scared poopless while going into a burning building on fire, or approaching a burning car. Fear was right there in me the whole time, I just kept it in it's little box.
I guess that turns it into worry.
Fear is a cause AND effect, so true definition of it is quite difficult in any context.
I guess fear wears many hats, as you say, Zorgon. I know when I get on a plane I always look around me and can tell who is afraid and who isnt by the way they look out the windows, check their seat belts repeatedly, drink voluminous amounts of scotch(thats me:)) and so on.
Im sitting on that wing from now on!LOL!
People reverting to fear in an emergency may not always be the first thing that happens, but of course as the event wears on, it changes to several other layers...shock or what have you.
Worry, as you say...will we have food, will there be looters, will we get ice and power?...is a big part of any emergency, just not in a run and hide sense.
Worry, as it seems, does frequently come before the emergency, maybe even causes it to have a higher percentage of happening if it is directly a result of the person in fear, like a guy on a jetski who forgets that they dont have steering without throttle and coasts into a bridge piling at 40 mph with the handlebars turned all the way to one side and no throtttle applied.
As the bridge approaches, his fear or worry of passing beneath it alters his perception of what he needs to do to go smoothly through...seen it happen dozens of times.....and then wham!
As far as shock, Ive seen it in play after a few of the hurricanes weve had here in Florida, and like you say, they walk around in a daze with no idea how to help themselves, while everything they need is still right there...gas, wood, propane grills, fish(in the water still :P)...just no ice or power.
It is a sad sight for the ones who havent been able to handle the trauma. Ive helped many through the aftermath and see their fear and worry as debilitating at best.
The Secret. Love it, Z!!!!!
Thanks so much for showing me the whole collection in the thread you put together, I will remember that thread you started everyday of my life from here on out, as when the growing began.
As you may know I sell jewelry that my wife and I make, and sales are definitely affected by attitude and such, but the feeling I got last night while just standing there, after reading all of the book by Rasmussen, and watching the movie, was so surreal for me.
People would walk by our booth, and just stop and turn towards us, and come right up to the table with a smile on their faces. I dont know what they were experiencing, but I know it was profoundly enjoyable for our wallets!!!! :o After one day of applying the methods therein, the book and movie, I saw a result!
I have to say, I never really watched the Secret or thought of the law of attraction beyond particle physics, and the movie, although great and eye opening, was a simpler version for me than the book by Sean Rasmussen. I think everyone here wants to see the movie as it is the easiest form of the whole, but I implore all of you to read Rasmussen's book for clarity and recall after the movie is tucked into the dvd stack.
And as Rasmussen says, carry it with you and read it often for a refresher, I will!
A truly new look at life, Zorgon, and if you hadnt presented the opportunity, I may have never known that secret at all.
My sincerest thanks to you, friend!
Dave
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2012, 04:03:16 PM
Yep, right on! No fear is gonna get me down1
Oh BTW, If my plan comes to fruition...and it will...you are on tap as the VP of energy theory and advancement.
You would oversee every idea and theory that came into the group before anyone could make a decision to say yea or nay.
And your office would float above the hangar where our workshops would be, so you could watch the saving of the world in real time!
You would ride to work on the motorcycle of your choice, whether as the driver or in a beautiful cushy sidecar with those cool goggles the germans used to wear!
I cant wait for that day when we have all the pieces in place, and trust me, Amy, that day is coming fast!
Littleenki
I accept the job. Now to making it happen! (I'll be the rider and not the passenger in a side car! [grin])
Quote from: deuem on June 13, 2012, 04:31:33 PM
I guess I am not writing this very well. What I tryed to say that there is a difference between fear and afraid.
Maybe a difference between fear and caution. I am cautious about all those things, but do not fear them.
QuoteWhy would you not stick your finger in that socket? It may be off, What do you fear? Some time in your past life or lifes, we learned that this is not a good thing and took that fear and converted it to knowledge. When I ride my bike here, I only fear what the other driver is going to do because it is out of my control and learning curve. Past fears have taught me to swirve now and not wait to get hit. The plane again is a contol thing. If I was doing the flying everyone else could be in fear. but not me.
My parents explained what could happen if I did stick My finger in a socket. Since then... I have been cautious.
QuoteSeeing what happens to people with no money in some circumstances does set a fear up and changes how you wish to live life. It will either change you or you will die from no food. Right now I will pass on the die part. No Money, no one helping, like it is here. Why do you keep an eye out for any problems you can avoid. I would think that is from training caused by fear that you now use to your advantage. For some people this might take years, like going on a jet. For others it might take moments to pass.
I have complete faith in things working out, one way or another. When I stuck My thumb out, having lost everything when My ex left Me with an eviction notice, I knew all would work out. And so it did. And so it will. There was no fear. Still, I retained caution.
Yes, My caution is based on knowledge of possibilities, but I bring to Me the help I need. One way or another - and it's surprising what little help I need, really. A bit of food, a shelter from a storm, and I persist.
QuoteI kind of thiink we are all saying almost the same things with just a different opinion on how we get there. What is the opposite of fear, strength? Ok, with out one is there another? How can you judge one by itself? It is good to hear that a lot of you live with no fear. My question is how to get there with out it.....
Deuem
The opposite of fear is love. Many say hate is the opposite of love, but hate is merely the product of fear. Strength is the opposite of weakness.
I love and I am cautious. No fear and therefore no hate.
Hello Amaterasu,
Nice chat were having. With emotions I don't know if people will ever agree. It does seem that everyone sees them differently.
Fear and Love, I can't see that as opposite. Hate and Love I can see. I hate it, I love it.
Do you say I fear it, I love it? Or I fear love? How can you love if you don't know what hate is? I think I need to understand all opposites well to use them. The things I hate are not the things I fear. That is for sure!
I do see your ex left me story and can understand the fear of loving again. Many people never do! Deuem says, Ok that chapter is over, get a new book! The new book might be twice as good as the old book. But look in a different book store.
Brave is what I have found in the dictionary for the opposite of fear. Some people are braver than others. We all see this and some people are very fearful. Does not the fearful person recognize bravery and also the other way around? Which one you are is an option left for you to work out. In our life, we meet up with fear all the time. The strong or brave at heart have overcome it and moved on while the fearful have not and it might do them harm or help depending on the situation.
For instance, I think I am a pretty fearless guy but I would be fearful of letting a stone cold drunken person drive me home. The fear gene would kick in and suggest to me another way out. Should I then just be fearless and go with them? You call that cautious. I call that understanding a fear and using it to be cautious. This emotion is based on having a fear of a useless death. An out of your own control death!
If I look at this in my life now as percentage points fear to brave. It would probably be 10/90. My wife would say 0/100. But I don't show it, that's for sure.
I also would say that everyone, including myself has a fear breaking point. You either faint, panic, go into shock or die. I hope I never see or reach those points. But I have seen it happen to others. Instantly! And my point would be different than anyone else. Having never reached any of the 4 since becoming an Adult, I don't know what it would take. But I would guess that there must be something that would trigger one of them at some point. I like to think if I was in a group of a thousand people, I would either be the last or next to last ones standing. Probably start laughing at some point..
In today's world we are protected from a lot of yesterday's fears because of society, laws and education. So our life is less fearful then our ancestors. They had to live on the edge of fear daily. We have gone past that idea and moved into bravery because of the times we live in. So you might literally have to place yourself in the way of fear today vs it facing you every day a thousand years ago.
Remember, I am a guy, we are from Mars. It is lucky we have any emotions....
Deuem
The fear in the things One hates is usually hidden. I could say I hate discrimination, but that stems from a fear that discrimination might affect [Me, One I love, People in general...]. That sort of thing.
I do think You misunderstood Me when I say I love Myself and have no need for another mate. I do not fear falling in love - I leave that option open. I just feel no need to fill that spot. Should someOne come along that meets My requirements, I will be fully capable of falling head over heals. I just don't feel incomplete. I am whole unto Myself and am not looking for, wishing for, desiring another.
Amaterasu, that is the best news I have read today.
Head over heals, no better feeling in life....
Deuem
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