I got some information last night that requires confirmation. The confirmation I need must be in the form of radar tracking for the airspace around Alpena Michigan from 6pm to midnight on 6/6/2012. I know it's available because I've seen the 9/11 videos that show the various thousands of planes in the air all over the country; but I have no idea where to find that data.
If what I heard from an eyewitness is true, and if I can confirm it with radar, "Holy Shit" is all I can say.
Can someone help me out here?
Thanks,
Bobby
Those who can help you are probably in the position of stealing that story for themselves. I thought of Washington Street of course. Do you have anyone on the inside there? If not it might be a good time to consider that?
I would love to help but I am out here in the desert living under a rock, sort of. Good luck Linda
hi Bob
try this
http://business.flydenver.com/community/noise/complaints.asp
not sure about this one but looks interesting for future viewing
http://hackaday.com/2012/05/04/automatic-airplane-tracking-what-radar-systems-engineers-do-for-kicks/
http://hackaday.com/2011/09/22/tracking-commercial-aircraft-with-salvaged-electronics/
up to 16 days with this one
http://www.radarspotting.com/forum/
didn't go past page one but looks pretty interesting..but it may only be current
http://www.pearltrees.com/#/N-f=1_1072873&N-fa=18454&N-p=7066141&N-play=0&N-s=1_1072873&N-u=1_1573
good luck and i hope that helps
Quote from: sky otter on June 22, 2012, 03:07:49 PM
hi Bob
try this
http://business.flydenver.com/community/noise/complaints.asp
Thats the kind of data I'm looking for, but I can't choose any location other than DIA. :(
http://www.flightradar24.com/
Go to the upper left and type in the date 6/7/2012 GMT 00:30 and watch the fun. Planes squawking no IDs disappearing over Lake Huron. I need someone more familiar with the system to tell me what I'm looking at, because it does look like several planes headed towards Alpena just fell into Lake Huron. I sped the replay up to where it showed the planes every 4 minutes. Their transponders just shut off in the middle of the lake.
Bob Powel
The only help I could be was to start honing in on the area.
Where is Alpena, Mi.
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/AlpenaMi.jpg)
Flight map with power plant noted
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/AlpenaPP-1.jpg)
The 2 local Airports in the area are KAPN & 53M
I could not locate any history yet. As I was posting this you posted and I will check it out also.
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on June 22, 2012, 04:26:20 PM
Bob Powel
The only help I could be was to start honing in on the area.
Where is Alpena, Mi.
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/AlpenaMi.jpg)
Flight map with power plant noted
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/AlpenaPP-1.jpg)
The 2 local Airports in the area are KAPN & 53M
I could not locate any history yet. As I was posting this you posted and I will check it out also.
Deuem
The "power plant" is actually the 4 Mile Dam, which has very limited hydroelectric power generating capability. Great Pike though!
One thing that strikes me as odd, that I'm going to pursue, is a Qatar Airways cargo plane coming in SW from Canada that just disappears. The last time it appears is about 50 miles off of Alpena over Lake Huron at 03:12 GMT/UTC and then it's just gone.
Qatar is the home of CENTCOM and the US is all up in their bizness. I don't know if it means anything, but it's an interesting correlation.
Great Pike though!
Speaking of Pikes. Why don't you post your thoughts on Global Security and see how long it takes one or more of their members to respond to you. They generally have almost a thousand members on during the day..... and no response..... would be an interesting result.... almost as interesting as plenty.
Linda
hey are you that guy from michigan in the videos i watched the other day, about being arrested for asking about loud explosions?
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 22, 2012, 05:03:16 PM
Great Pike though!
Speaking of Pikes. Why don't you post your thoughts on Global Security and see how long it takes one or more of their members to respond to you. They generally have almost a thousand members on during the day..... and no response..... would be an interesting result.... almost as interesting as plenty.
Linda
I don't actually take part in any forums there, I just urk to snag intelligence. They also have some pretty decent maps! LOL
Quote from: undo11 on June 22, 2012, 06:19:09 PM
hey are you that guy from michigan in the videos i watched the other day, about being arrested for asking about loud explosions?
In da flesh. ;D
I am just repeating what I was told on the phone from Alexandria. Just ask. Linda
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 22, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
I am just repeating what I was told on the phone from Alexandria. Just ask. Linda
I may join, just for you. ;)
But first, I'd like to get Mr. Lear's input on the radar tracks in the post above. I don't want to go in there and have people looking at me like I'm Terral03 resurrected. LOL
Dude told me he was Adam, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus Christ all rolled into one. :O
Scratch that. I hadn't posted it yet. This is what I'd like to have him look at:
Go to http://www.flightradar24.com/ and zoom in so that ALL of Michigan and Lake Huron, to Toronto is visible. On the top left of the screen, there is an archive for which you can see recorded radar tracks. Enter the date 6/7/2012, and the time 00:30 GMT/UTC and watch the fun.
Flight QTR6059 (Qatar "Cargo" plane {Qatar is the home of CENTCOM & CIA in the Middle East BTW}) comes down from the NE towards Alpena at 03:28 GMT - it's held motionless in the air for several minutes while all the other planes on the radar continue to move; and then at 03:30 GMT it disappears from the radar. There are other planes that take off - one from Alpena and three from Toronto, without transponders, that also disappear over Lake Huron.
Now this happened about 12 hours after the explosion we felt in Northeast Michigan, so it is a completely separate event. The only reason I even bothered looking at this time frame was because a witness has come forward who claims to have seen UFOs being engaged by US fighter jets over Lake Huron.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Have you tried Flight Aware?
http://flightaware.com/
Quote from: Bob Powell on June 22, 2012, 07:27:44 PM
In da flesh. ;D
well hey there! i'm from michigan, too. :)
that's beautiful country up there where you're from. too cold for me but wonderful to visit in the summer. i have fond memories of the beautiful birch trees and evergreens. of frankenmuth and yummy thanksgiving dinners and german fudge made right in the shop, of mackinaw island grand hotel, of the shores of lake superior. pretty places. always neat little trails and paths that suddenly open up to unexpected water falls lined with evergreen stands. gorgeous state. hope they don't ruin it.
Well, Bob, I have to ask...why am I picturing a couple of hijacked planes from Qatar filled with dirty bombs, and shot down over Lake huron? ??? ??? ??? ???
Is it just a paranoid moment for me, or does it sound viable?
Planes fly in low, get shot down, one explodes with a boom, then releases it's dirty bomb contents into the air, where they drift south into N Indiana.
Frightnening prospect, and if so, would the gubmint tell anyone?
???
Le
from http://www.radarspotting.com/forum/
this list Tracking Websites
These need very little introduction other than a link and a visit.
Most display flights in realtime. A few are delayed for "security" reasons.
Check them out and explore what's available. Some have chat rooms and forums where you'll find radarspotters, both newbies and the more experienced.
Aircraft Tracking sites usually display all aircraft. Flight Tracking typically allow a search for a specific flight.
Aircraft Tracking Websites
Atlas
www.flightglobal.com/atlas
Casper
http://casper.frontier.nl
FlightRadar24
www.flightradar24.com
PlaneFinder
www.planefinder.net
RadarVirtuel
www.radarvirtuel.com
Flight Tracking Websites
Aeroseek
www.aeroseek.com/webtrax/
Flightaware
http://flightaware.com
FlightExplorer
www.flightexplorer.com
Flightstats
www.flightstats.com
Flightview
www.flightview.com
Flightwise
www.flightwise.com
FlyteComm
www.flytecomm.com
hah hah.. i found you..so i'm still looking
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Radar-Confirmation-Needed-Re-Michigan-Explosion
dang Bob
i feel like i'm just following you around.. :o
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1060897509
ok..still searching and found this..which may explain all the military stuff in the sky that day
http://www.wsbt.com/news/wsbt-michigan-national-guard-airmen-deploying-to-estonia-20120606,0,1786469.story
Michigan National Guard airmen deploying to Estonia
Comments 0Share7
11:09 a.m. EDT, June 6, 2012
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — About 150 Michigan Air National Guard personnel are deploying to Estonia for a training exercise.
It was announced Wednesday the airmen will be overseas for two weeks in support of Saber Strike 2012.
The deployment will include A-10 Thunderbolt II and KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft from Selfridge Air National Guard Base and personnel from the 127th Wing at Selfridge, the 110th Airlift Wing in Battle Creek, the Combat Readiness Training Center in Alpena and Michigan Joint Forces Headquarters in Lansing.
The Michigan Air National Guard says in a statement it will provide close-air-support via the A-10 and aerial refueling capabilities via the KC-135.
Saber Strike 2012 involves 2,000 personnel from eight countries. It's to take place in mid-June.
.................
ok and also a large quarry ..could the blast have come from there.?
http://www.puremichiganstone.com/photo-gallery/
and i ask are there any fertilizer plants near by
::)
Quote from: Littleenki on June 22, 2012, 09:22:40 PM
Well, Bob, I have to ask...why am I picturing a couple of hijacked planes from Qatar filled with dirty bombs, and shot down over Lake huron? ??? ??? ??? ???
Is it just a paranoid moment for me, or does it sound viable?
Planes fly in low, get shot down, one explodes with a boom, then releases it's dirty bomb contents into the air, where they drift south into N Indiana.
Frightnening prospect, and if so, would the gubmint tell anyone?
???
Le
I don't think so. The radiation from a dirty bomb would linger a lot longer than the spikes lasted. With absolutely nothing scientific to base this guess on, could it have been radiation released by a Neutron bomb? Or perhaps just a conventional nuke? An air burst would have been seen as well as felt, not to mention the EMP that goes along with it; but an underground explosion might explain the brief spike with no lingering effects as there would be no radioactive fallout. I suck at physics, but I'm pretty sure that when a nuke explodes it emits a brief blast of (Gamma?) radiation.
I dunno... That deployment sure looks fishy. Spidy sense hears someOne saying, "Quick! Come up with a deployment order We can use to "explain" all that military stuff going on!"
Oh, but I'm sure THAT would never happen.
Quote from: sky otter on June 22, 2012, 09:28:42 PM
hah hah.. i found you..so i'm still looking
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Radar-Confirmation-Needed-Re-Michigan-Explosion
dang Bob
i feel like i'm just following you around.. :o
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1060897509
Stalker.
LOL
Quoteok..still searching and found this..which may explain all the military stuff in the sky that day
http://www.wsbt.com/news/wsbt-michigan-national-guard-airmen-deploying-to-estonia-20120606,0,1786469.story
Michigan National Guard airmen deploying to Estonia
Comments 0Share7
11:09 a.m. EDT, June 6, 2012
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — About 150 Michigan Air National Guard personnel are deploying to Estonia for a training exercise.
It was announced Wednesday the airmen will be overseas for two weeks in support of Saber Strike 2012.
The deployment will include A-10 Thunderbolt II and KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft from Selfridge Air National Guard Base and personnel from the 127th Wing at Selfridge, the 110th Airlift Wing in Battle Creek, the Combat Readiness Training Center in Alpena and Michigan Joint Forces Headquarters in Lansing.
The Michigan Air National Guard says in a statement it will provide close-air-support via the A-10 and aerial refueling capabilities via the KC-135.
Saber Strike 2012 involves 2,000 personnel from eight countries. It's to take place in mid-June.
That surely is a plausible story. Now if I could only trust the government to tell the truth we'd be good. 8)
Quote
ok and also a large quarry ..could the blast have come from there.?
http://www.puremichiganstone.com/photo-gallery/
and i ask are there any fertilizer plants near by
::)
Nope, and nope. I talked to Lafarge quarry manager and he said they were not doing any blasting. No fertilizer plants of which I'm aware, just lots of sand and limestone.
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 23, 2012, 12:02:35 AM
I dunno... That deployment sure looks fishy. Spidy sense hears someOne saying, "Quick! Come up with a deployment order We can use to "explain" all that military stuff going on!"
Oh, but I'm sure THAT would never happen.
She gets it. :D
, just lots of sand and limestone.
Oh thats going to make the hair in between Hobbits toes stand straight up.
Linda
I still doubledog dare you to present your question to the forum of Pike and his group and see what happens. If they simply say " We don't know what you are talking about" Then you have the biggest story of the century.....and if they hand it off like that it MIGHT be all yours.
I'd say.... grab it and run.
<g> Linda
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 23, 2012, 12:37:18 AM
I still doubledog dare you to present your question to the forum of Pike and his group and see what happens. If they simply say " We don't know what you are talking about" Then you have the biggest story of the century.....and if they hand it off like that it MIGHT be all yours.
I'd say.... grab it and run.
<g> Linda
I'll join tomorrow. It's time to put on my DJ hat and go to work. I always Livestream the shows (http://www.livestream.com/dj_bobbybreeze/video?clipId=pla_868763e8-2e41-48f8-af66-c575e68dcc10&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb), and tonight's will start at 10pm Eastern. Come by and say hey. I'll even take a request or two.
Otherwise, I'll see ya'll tomorrow.
Quote from: Bob Powell on June 22, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
I don't think so. The radiation from a dirty bomb would linger a lot longer than the spikes lasted. With absolutely nothing scientific to base this guess on, could it have been radiation released by a Neutron bomb? Or perhaps just a conventional nuke? An air burst would have been seen as well as felt, not to mention the EMP that goes along with it; but an underground explosion might explain the brief spike with no lingering effects as there would be no radioactive fallout. I suck at physics, but I'm pretty sure that when a nuke explodes it emits a brief blast of (Gamma?) radiation.
That makes sense to me, Bob, as an airburst would be quite obvious, but if it were already in the lake....Hmmm. Lower rad levels, and less gamma output...maybe?
A neutron bomb? maybe a pineapple bomb would be a goos guess!
This story isnt going away, so we shall learn more at every turn, especially if the Bobmeister keeps on the hunt..youre a hunter, Bob, I can tell by your determined personality!
Have a great show tonight, and Ill try to drop in if I can pull away from the bench for a bit!
Cheers!
Littleenki
hey Bob
(pst.. it's your stalker. ;) )
no i don't trust the gov..but hey those military could have been legit..it happens
and i know you haven't been here long but if you haven't heard about these noises you might want to check out this thread..
maybe what is going on around you is just a continuation
i don't know if anyone thought to check the radiation levels for the other loud sounds or not
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=105.msg9707#msg9707
ok.. i was just checking the map for the distance between clintonville wis and alpena mich
wow..what is going on in the lakes...?
here.. i'll start a rumor..maybe they need the water for irrigation and don't want to biuld anything..just blast till the water goes south..yeah, i know, super nuts
::)
well i kept looking and it seems the natural news did a long story on it
http://www.naturalnews.com/036158_nuclear_explosion_Indiana_radiation.html
with links for several other info points..listing a few below
RadNet's data has also since been pulled, which is highly suspicious. But if you visit the RadNet Query page (https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do), you can pull up the data yourself from the archive. with more instructions
According to a Reddit reader whose eyewitness account was confirmed by various other readers, a large fleet of DHS emergency response trucks disappeared on June 6 from a parking lot where they had remained unmoved for years. The missing trucks were allegedly emblazoned with a U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA) National Incident Management System (NIMS) logo, which suggests that a major emergency had occurred that required immediate attention (http://www.infowars.com).
A series of loud explosions that began more than a week prior to the high radiation readings were also reported throughout the region, which adds another element of mystery to this whole situation. WWMT Newschannel 3 ran a report in late May about the occurrence of a "loud explosion like thunder" that resulted in intense shaking felt throughout several Michigan counties. The rumbling was so loud and intense that one local man thought something had exploded inside his house (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oKj_ptBOUE).
In the days that followed, other area residents also reported hearing strange "boom" sounds, and some even reported seeing unmarked helicopters, A-10 Thunderbolts, which are sometimes referred to as the "world's deadliest aircraft," and various other military aircraft and personnel moving in and out of the area (http://naturalsociety.com).
One man who tried to investigate the source of another unidentified explosion further north in Michigan was actually arrested after trying to question the Executive Secretary at the Alpena Combat Readiness Training Center, a year-round National Guard training and exercise facility (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAphZIusdTo).
::)
maybe it was a meteor and there is stuff falling from the sky no one wants to talk about
i stole this from another posting by lady Jae
Read more: Meteor's trip across Colorado wows witnesses, grounds fire tankers - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20901178/fireball-then-meteor-shower-ground-tankers-fighting-springer#ixzz1ykSPWY70
well i have been reading from various sites like "before its news & usahitman" that these explosions
are nukes being set off in the ELITES own underground bunkers and tunnels in some kind of good guy
verse bad guy (tptb) war?
some even say the Russians are involved?The Michigan blast is said to have the tell-tale nuke signature?
strange very strange. who knows?
You know... I thought of that. Other loud "booms" which They attributed to "earthquakes" also were said to be destruction of elite bunkers... Again, good guy vs. bad guy.
Got maybe some positive spidy sense on that one. But it could just be wishful thinking. I might HOPE that's what happened. But... I just don't know.
I have been watching the plane tracker website. Planes seem to be dropped off the tracking system as they fly over michigan (northern) and don't appear until they get past the UP when coming in.
Occassionally this area gets bombarded with chemtrails. This tracking website will be useful to verify whether the planes doing the spraying are commercial airplanes or something else. (military or a hologram!)
A few years ago there were loud booms heard on the Canadian shore of lake Huron, just across from Alpena. The MSM played it down as test airplanes from Alpena that had breached the speed of sound, and were sonic booms.
Quote from: micjer on June 26, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
I have been watching the plane tracker website. Planes seem to be dropped off the tracking system as they fly over michigan (northern) and don't appear until they get past the UP when coming in.
Occassionally this area gets bombarded with chemtrails. This tracking website will be useful to verify whether the planes doing the spraying are commercial airplanes or something else. (military or a hologram!)
Hey micjer! I have a source in the balkans who told me the gps is degraded there since they are searching for the supposed ufo in the balkan sea.
Is it possible something similar is happening in Lake Huron, with the fligttracker system?
Le
Could be. I would like to check out another website and see if the same thing is happening.
Quote from: sky otter on June 24, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
One man who tried to investigate the source of another unidentified explosion further north in Michigan was actually arrested after trying to question the Executive Secretary at the Alpena Combat Readiness Training Center, a year-round National Guard training and exercise facility (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAphZIusdTo).
::)
Dude, you do realize that was ME that got arrested right? ROTFLMMFAO!!!
I've started a thread about the newest show http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1661 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1661) that just came online this morning. Germain to this discussion however are three other videos that I also uploaded; videos that would seem to back up the story told to me by a person who said that they saw a UFO being chased and engaged over Lake Huron by US fighter jets. This was 12 hours after the explosion we heard and felt, so it (they) were a completely separate event(s).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Pwhs03VzM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-mvKrrKiM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OivZWP0eMuk
So, after watching these radar tracks (and hopefully going to the website and watching them for yourself) what do you think about these missing and unidentified aircraft?
I'm off to stand tall before "The Man" to answer for driving on a suspended license here in a little bit. Hopefully I'll be back in a few hours to catch up on your comments. If I'm not...
SEND BAIL!!! ;D
;D ;D
Dude, you do realize that was ME that got arrested right? ROTFLMMFAO!!!
yeah dude.. i knew who it was.. that was a copy from that web site..they may not have known who that was..geeeeeze..and if ya gotta stay the dude route..it's dudette to you, bub
;D
i think if we go too far out on the conspiracy limb we will miss what really is going on
i can go with the ufo scenario
but i am more tempted to go with meteors hitting that area and causing problems
in my opinion:
the earth is ..for lack of a better term.. sheading ..changing...renewing itself and to do it
there will be a lot of 'natural' stuff happening..maybe the idiot powers-who-wish-they-were-in-charge are helping it along...maybe the et's are on standby so we don't screw up the universe with the nuke stuff
maybe maybe maybe...who really knows ain't talkin..but i think we need to be real careful
on what to believe..
and hey Bob i already thought you were in the slammer ..hope we don't need to send bail
:-\
Quote from: sky otter on June 27, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
;D ;D
Dude, you do realize that was ME that got arrested right? ROTFLMMFAO!!!
yeah dude.. i knew who it was.. that was a copy from that web site..they may not have known who that was..geeeeeze..and if ya gotta stay the dude route..it's dudette to you, bub
;D
i think if we go too far out on the conspiracy limb we will miss what really is going on
i can go with the ufo scenario
but i am more tempted to go with meteors hitting that area and causing problems
in my opinion:
the earth is ..for lack of a better term.. sheading ..changing...renewing itself and to do it
there will be a lot of 'natural' stuff happening..maybe the idiot powers-who-wish-they-were-in-charge are helping it along...maybe the et's are on standby so we don't screw up the universe with the nuke stuff
maybe maybe maybe...who really knows ain't talkin..but i think we need to be real careful
on what to believe..
and hey Bob i already thought you were in the slammer ..hope we don't need to send bail
:-\
Something is about to change, that's for sure. Sorry about the gender misidentication sweetie, if they had flower emoticons I'd put one :right here: ;)
Yes, I was banging my tin cup against the cell bars on the day I was arrested, but I posted bail and I've been out until my arraignment today. I talked with the prosecutor and we may have reached an accommodation that will keep me out of jail. I could have gotten 93 DAYS behind bars and a $500 fine for driving on a suspended license! Holy Crap!
What I need to to in the next month before the pre-trial hearing is come up with the money I need to pay off the rapists at the SCDMV to lift the suspension on my license and get a Michigan DL. The prosecutor said if I can do that she'll cut me a bit of slack - no jail time.
I find that quite disturbing, Bob, how a plane headed directly for Chicago just goes away.
No level of conspiracy theorist in me can ignore that video!
Best of luck with the gendarme, and oh yes, Sky is a "dudette"! :)
I made that same faux pas myself!
Cheers
Le
Bob, I would send Ya the shirt off M'back if I thought that would help. Sadly, that's all I have to send. Presently jobless, virtually homeless and literally penniless, relying on friends to keep Me on this earth. (Sleeping on the floor in a corner of a friend's place who is disabled & has not much more than I do.)
I will pump a lot of good will and good luck Your way.
Quote from: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
I find that quite disturbing, Bob, how a plane headed directly for Chicago just goes away.
No level of conspiracy theorist in me can ignore that video!
Best of luck with the gendarme, and oh yes, Sky is a "dudette"! :)
I made that same faux pas myself!
Cheers
Le
I have been watching that website and all planes "disappear" when they reach northern Michigan. The tracking system seems to be out of range or something. Try watching if in doubt.
Planes leaving Toronto heading west will be tracked until they reach the Alpena area and then leave the screen.
Same goes for planes coming in. They don't show up till the reach the Manitoulin Island area.
Makes sense to me, micjer!
Le