I've been thinking about all this talk about energy from "another dimension" and so many thinking We are taking that energy away from that dimension... Yet it is pouring into Our 3D+1 universe in staggering quantities. All We're doing is taking energy that is here already and converting it into useful energy. Not stripping energy that doesn't exist here from another place.
I was hoping to get input on this issue from You wonderful People. Thoughts?
Really? No One has any thoughts or counter info to offer?
I have some thoughts for you maybe? 8)
First there is a lot to say about dimensions. Are there dimensions to explored in our known "system"? Like going from a flat world to a round world? Not seen at the moment, but seen in some time. Some groups are maybe in the possession of knowledge in that kind al ready... Others arent. I mean things magnetism, energy from space blablabla
But whats a dimension?
The Astral world could be explained as a dimension!?!? Well then we have a source of energy out f this place ;D
But thats a complete other world. Other rules. Not proof able for most of people.
So, yes there is energy in some totally other form, from Another place, sometimes transitioned to this world when people are conscious about it. But most of the time its not seen.
My "thoughts" 8)
Thank You for Your thoughts, Lunica. [smile]
My question pertains specifically to devices of an electrogravitic nature that People are saying will take energy in another dimension, and I believe this is not true - that the energy is pouring into Our universe and that We have learned to tap that flow.
But I liked Your response!
We need a detailed thread on the mysteries of Dark Energy. I WISH someone else would do it but we'll see. If not I'll TRY to find time soon.
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 15, 2012, 06:09:26 PM
My question pertains specifically to devices of an electrogravitic nature that People are saying will take energy in another dimension, and I believe this is not true - that the energy is pouring into Our universe and that We have learned to tap that flow.
But, I agree on this :)
Just a better understanding of "nature" and available recourses.
Thats why the metaphor.
The earth is flat --> the earth is round --> the earth has a Sun --> there are more solar systems --> there are more constellations :)
Its still all in the same "space".
Dont ask me about the technique itself. I cant help you there;) haha
Good question Amy! Sorry i didnt see it sooner!
In short since Im on the droid, I see the other dimensions as places where light speed isnt the fastest and superluminal is the lowest velocity anything relocates.
Also I feel that it has to do with vibrations and higher and lower frequencies, as I think Pimander will pose soon enough.
The laws of the universe state that everything vibrates, so it must be a dimension where superluminal relocation of the aether takes place and higher frequencies are the standard.
More soon, but that a nutshell idea I have on this...off to garden and thinks about it:D
Cheers!
Pimander Said:
QuoteWe need a detailed thread on the mysteries of Dark Energy. I WISH someone else would do it but we'll see. If not I'll TRY to find time soon.
Frequency in ambient existences is the hardest part Pim, you should know this.
1Worldwatcher
The question I have is,if we were able to do this,would it not have to be "payed back" in a sense?
We take energy from a parallel or dimensional universe,would that not upset the balance of things?
Quote from: Pimander on July 15, 2012, 07:26:21 PM
We need a detailed thread on the mysteries of Dark Energy.
I WISH someone else would do it but we'll see.
If not I'll TRY to find time soon.
Well hello there
Very Well Put, Mr Pimander
It appears
opportunity knocks
op·por·tu·ni·ty noun \?ä-p?r-?tü-n?-t?, -?tyü-\
Definition of OPPORTUNITY1: a favorable juncture of circumstances
2: a good chance for advancement or progressand there seems to be
someone
who might be
uniquely qualified
to answer the clarion call ;)
after all
they are creative
enough ;)
to use "Dark Energy"
as bait in
their signature :o
Aha!
Quoteand there seems to be
someone
who might be
uniquely qualified
to answer the clarion call
after all
they are creative
enough
to use "Dark Energy"
as bait in
their signature
Indeed Colorado!, Shes got that one in the chamber ready to fire!:D
And kdog, thats a great point, as it is a balanced universe no matter how many dimensions there are.
Is it possible that other dimensioanl beings are using our energy, and doing just what we plan to do someday?
Like an interdimensional tug of war? :o
Le
Can anyone define ...ENERGY???
dark.
bright.
pink.
purple.
If not You are all pissing in the wind.
hobbit
Quote from: hobbit on July 15, 2012, 10:34:56 PM
Can anyone define ...ENERGY???
dark.
bright.
pink.
purple.
If not You are all pissing in the wind.
hobbit
Vis Viva?
QuoteThere is a fact, or if you wish, a law, governing all natural phenomena that are known to date. There is no known exception to this law—it is exact so far as we know. The law is called the conservation of energy. It states that there is a certain quantity, which we call energy, that does not change in manifold changes which nature undergoes. That is a most abstract idea, because it is a mathematical principle; it says that there is a numerical quantity which does not change when something happens. It is not a description of a mechanism, or anything concrete; it is just a strange fact that we can calculate some number and when we finish watching nature go through her tricks and calculate the number again, it is the same.
—The Feynman Lectures on Physics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy
Quote from: hobbit on July 15, 2012, 10:34:56 PM
Can anyone define ...ENERGY???
dark.
bright.
pink.
purple.
If not You are all pissing in the wind.
hobbit
I dont think anyone has defined it yet, but the word is still out there, so lets see what it becomes.
Ill keep a towel nearby for that piss.
Interdimensional influence maybe?
Le
Quote from: kdog on July 15, 2012, 10:38:25 PM
Vis Viva?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy
Had to look up what vis viva is.
Dimensions...can anyone define what they are????
hobbit
I remember a video showing a wise geometry professor showing dimensions which were within a shape that could be rotated around to appear flat then 3d.
You posted it a while back, Hobbit.
Isnt an alternate dimension just another view of the same thing?
Do we need to just shift our perception of whats around us and approach it from another angle to really "see" it?
At any rate, I think other dimensions are all within each other not layered upon each other, and they are always present just not visible from the current angle we may be looking at.
Geometric for sure. Holographic too?
le
Quote from: Littleenki on July 15, 2012, 11:03:28 PM
I remember a video showing a wise geometry professor showing dimensions which were within a shape that could be rotated around to appear flat then 3d.
You posted it a while back, Hobbit.
Isnt an alternate dimension just another view of the same thing?
Do we need to just shift our perception of whats around us and approach it from another angle to really "see" it?
At any rate, I think other dimensions are all within each other not layered upon each other, and they are always present just not visible from the current angle we may be looking at.
Geometric for sure. Holographic too?
le
Ah ha,
You woke up.
I wonder what sent You to sleep??
I think the link You talk of was ZOME tools???
infinity 2,3,5 on youtube?
It's just a jump to the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtkdo7bOmJc&feature=related
hobbit
Quote from: hobbit on July 15, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
Ah ha,
You woke up.
I wonder what sent You to sleep??
I think the link You talk of was ZOME tools???
infinity 2,3,5 on youtube?
It's just a jump to the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtkdo7bOmJc&feature=related
hobbit
It was an eye opening video for me, and showed how the dimensions could be accessed through shifting the geometry of the universe, one polygon at a time...very cool!
I hope everyone here watches it!
le
E=mc2
ETA: Allegedly. :P
Firstly I admit to deferring to the ancient Hindu texts. I am convinced that they were incredibly wise, beyond what we have attained in present times. Theirs is a description of a universe that is at foundation a substance or medium that pervades the entire universe with all dimensions of space arising from that initial state. In modern physics it is theorized that there are smaller dimensions of space that are so small that we cannot observe them, smaller than a subatomic particle. In my thinking these other dimensions are not parallel dimensions but just extensions of our universe, but in another direction that is not the 3 dimensions we can readily observe, height, width and depth. IMHO these smaller dimensions, in relation to the 3 we can observe, are in rotation and that gives rise to subatomic rotation. Again, imho, it is the primary stuff, or state of things, that gives rise to gravity, and ala Bearden, it is the energetic dimension of time, constantly in motion, Brownian motion, or Zero Pint Energy. When in a calm, non-perturbed state, it is detectable in macro only by it's gravitational influence, ie dark energy. This primary state is kind of like the zero in math, a place holder, but very important none the less, truly the foundation of creation, and like the waves on the ocean, is only detectable in the macro world when there is energy input, and it's placid state is disturbed. Matter, which is a transformed state of this primary medium, is like waves on the ocean, and we all are as waves on the ocean, but unable to detect the ocean that we are constantly manifesting from because we are 3 dimensional constructs of the universal ocean of creation. So energy, in the macro world, is movement of this ocean and at the subatomic level there is always motion, so the universe is alive with energy, and has a conscious quality that the Hindu's called Brahman and it can be known through meditation. At least that is what a little bird told me and I think he is correct! Lol
In addition, my hats off to the mods for ensuring that everybody plays well together! I know it's a pain in the backside and requires a lot of work and vigilance, but THAT'S why I joined here!
Cosmo
Good post.... 8)
Looks like we have a live on folks. Casts out his line and fishes for another bite. ;)
Quote from: kdog on July 15, 2012, 10:25:09 PM
The question I have is,if we were able to do this,would it not have to be "payed back" in a sense?
We take energy from a parallel or dimensional universe,would that not upset the balance of things?
Only if that is what We're doing. And I contend it is not. I contend that energy is flowing into Out universe and the dark/zero point.radiant/orgone/"vacuum"/plenum/whatever other name it has been given is already in this universe and that converting it into usable form is NOT taking it from another dimension.
There the energy is, pouring in like gangbusters. How could We interpret tapping it as taking it from another dimension at all?
Quote from: ColoradoGold on July 15, 2012, 10:26:01 PM
Well hello there
Very Well Put, Mr Pimander
It appears
opportunity knocks
op·por·tu·ni·ty noun \?ä-p?r-?tü-n?-t?, -?tyü-\
Definition of OPPORTUNITY
1: a favorable juncture of circumstances
2: a good chance for advancement or progress
and there seems to be
someone
who might be
uniquely qualified
to answer the clarion call ;)
after all
they are creative
enough ;)
to use "Dark Energy"
as bait in
their signature :o
LOL! Now who would THAT be? Really, the scientists say the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy, so I just have my little question. About the only thing I could start such a thread on that with...is the question in My sig. *I* know very little about it but that They say it is there all over the place.
Quote from: COSMO on July 16, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
Firstly I admit to deferring to the ancient Hindu texts. I am convinced that they were incredibly wise, beyond what we have attained in present times. Theirs is a description of a universe that is at foundation a substance or medium that pervades the entire universe with all dimensions of space arising from that initial state. In modern physics it is theorized that there are smaller dimensions of space that are so small that we cannot observe them, smaller than a subatomic particle. In my thinking these other dimensions are not parallel dimensions but just extensions of our universe, but in another direction that is not the 3 dimensions we can readily observe, height, width and depth. ...
Cosmo
I see Your point in all that, COSMO, but that still does not explain, if the energy is here to be converted, how it would be taking from another dimension.
Hi Amaterasu,
If I may ask where does your name come from? Shinto?
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 16, 2012, 12:42:16 AM
I see Your point in all that, COSMO, but that still does not explain, if the energy is here to be converted, how it would be taking from another dimension.
Please clarify, how it would be taken? Or how is it taking from another dimension? The energy in the subatomic dimensions is not from a different universe. These micro dimensions are just spatial extensions of this universe, that would be kinda like Kaluza-Klein or Calabi Yau. Their rotation is just their nature, I don't claim to know why they are in rotation, but the property of a magnet might be an example. How it would be taken? I have ideas. I am entertained by these, Faraday's generator/motor and think they have interesting characteristics:
http://depalma.pair.com/
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aPQqNt15-o
DePalma claimed over unity.
The Germans, during ww2 were working on some interesting devices, I'll see if I can dig up a link or two.
Cosmo
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 16, 2012, 12:21:53 AM
Only if that is what We're doing. And I contend it is not. I contend that energy is flowing into Out universe and the dark/zero point.radiant/orgone/"vacuum"/plenum/whatever other name it has been given is already in this universe and that converting it into usable form is NOT taking it from another dimension.
There is no point getting bogged down with semantics. It just depends on how you define a dimension.
Quote from: COSMO on July 16, 2012, 01:11:55 AM
The energy in the subatomic dimensions is not from a different universe. These micro dimensions are just spatial extensions of this universe, that would be kinda like Kaluza-Klein or Calabi Yau.
Precisely. I made this point in another thread. If there are multiple dimensions then they are part of this universe still.
Oh, I am certain that We can access the energy for (apparent) overunity. I know of DePalma's work amongst many others. What I am saying is that some on the web have said that when We achieve this overunity, We are drawing energy from another dimension like where other People live, and We are robbing Them of Their energy.
I don't know how They figure that with the energy coming into Our universe (from wherever it is that it comes from) anyway.
Quote from: Pimander on July 16, 2012, 01:27:09 AM
There is no point getting bogged down with semantics. It just depends on how you define a dimension.
Fair enough, Pim, but I have heard People say that We "can't use that energy because it's coming from another dimension and robbing the People in that dimension of energy. They will try to retaliate..." [shrug] I'm saying that is not the case.
Quote from: Pimander on July 16, 2012, 01:30:04 AM
Precisely. I made this point in another thread. If there are multiple dimensions then they are part of this universe still.
Yes, agree. I think it is helpful to differentiate between universe and dimension. There may be parallel universes, but a dimension is like height, width and depth, but there may be other "directions" at the subatomic scale. IMHO they are represented by the different types of quark spin and there are more types of quarks than just 3 and I think they are in rotation in relationship to 3d, but not sure how it got that way but it is what drives the universe we observe, so it is a GOOD thing! lol So, over unity is just tapping into the energy that we have not previously recognized.
Andrei Sakharov has some good ideas on this I think. Here is something about Sakharov from Hal Puthoff, incidentally the creator of the governments remote view program. (some I have seen claiming to be a part of this program have no idea of the protocol developed, so... mehhh)
http://www.ldolphin.org/zpe.html
Specifically, Sakharov suggested that gravity might be an induced effect brought about by changes in the zero-point energy of the vacuum, due to the presence of matter. If correct, gravity would then be understood as a variation on the Casimir theme, in which background zero-point-energy pressures were again responsible.
Although Sakharov did not develop the concept much further, he did outline certain criteria such a theory would have to meet such as predicting the value of the gravitational constant G in terms of zero-point-energy parameters. The approach to gravity outlined by Sakharov has recently been addressed in detail, and with positive results, again by the author.
(7) The gravitational interaction is shown to begin with the fact that a particle situated in the sea of electromagnetic zero-point fluctuations develops a "jitter" motion, or ZITTERBEWEGUNG as it is called.
When there are two or more particles they are each influenced not only by the fluctuating background field, but also by the fields generated by the other particles, all similarly undergoing ZITTERBEWEGUNG motion, and the inter-particle coupling due to these fields results in the attractive gravitational force.
Cosmo
In light of recent developments, I am not now a member of ANY other forum and have not been for years.
Don't really have the time!
I like it HERE!.... ... ... ... ... ;) A LOT!!!!!!!
TEXT COLOR EDIT: 8) hope you don't mind that we changed your blue text to a more readable color ;D
this is a great discussion !
Which still leaves the chestnut of being able to harness some of this energy. How? :)
Quote from: COSMO on July 16, 2012, 02:20:35 AM
In light of recent developments, I am not now a member of ANY other forum and have not been for years. Don't really have the time! I like it HERE!.... ... ... ... ... ;) A LOT!!!!!!!
A
You're very welcome here. Pleased to meet you. 8)
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 16, 2012, 01:36:01 AM
Fair enough, Pim, but I have heard People say that We "can't use that energy because it's coming from another dimension and robbing the People in that dimension of energy. They will try to retaliate..." [shrug] I'm saying that is not the case.
I have to agree, Amy, as they would have to possess more advanced technology than us to effect some sort of cross over, and even then would they be violent and vindictive?
Besides I would think that their vibrational frequency would be totally different than ours, creating a barrier to our seeing and encountering them. You cant kill someone if you cant see them or their existence, right?:D
I picture clouds and the ground as occupying two dimensions, and water and air as two more, and the moon itself as another from Earth...gravity of course comes to mind. All "energy" differentials and basically capacitors in their own right. If we look to the observable things around our world and visualize them as the poles or leads of said capacitor, there's our interdimensional energy.
As far as dimensions are concerned, geometry is the basis of how they are connected, but not visible to all eyes. The dimensional differences we might encounter would be in the form of odd EM effects or light based anomalies, and might be more holographic than anything.
Weve discussed the Bb effect and how it may be more than just capacitive thrust, but even with my own experiments with it, the anomalies are few and far between.
The nodal points between any geometric shape can be construed as connectors between dimensions and will always be within our grasp, as long as we align them to our best needs. Nodal points work best as opposite spin fields, and then we have to consider torsion fields as well. The relocation through the universe of everything provides a generous amount of tappable "energy" and as such the movement of the planets and the moon, can effect a energy differential, as we see in tides of the sea.
When we try to define this form of "energy" we can call it what it is...a diffference in two locations of the aether, which act as a capacitor, and the aether is the dielectric. Energy as a differential is more achievable IMHO, and the subsequent "energy" would be of the most natural and abundant kind. Field interactions within a certain range we can observe and adjust.
The Earth and Moon as a dipole could be considered a interdimensional energy device, which is affeted by all four forces, and is always "ON", yet to harness this energy would require a massive dielectric between the two..the aether?
What would be the common connector to both dimensions? Super high voltage, magnetic fields, or maybe even a sort of controlled stargate which could access both sides like a wormhole?
Matter and anti-matter as the poles makes some sense to me, Pim, as in that earlier post, and if anti-matter is ever defined or harnessed, will it be like the so called Higgs Boson, or will it be a massive rift of dark energy which can be tapped for millenia?
You guys are way better informed than me as to how astrophysics and aether physics may work, so this is just a theoretical ponderance on my part, please dont think Im crazy!:)
Cheers!
Littleenki
I just don't see the use of the energy as coming from any dimension with Beings... If We define it as coming from small "curled up" dimensions as postulated in several posts above, I don't think they are dimensions of Beings that We would in any way be robbing energy from.
It's already manifesting here.
Quote from: Pimander on July 16, 2012, 02:27:37 AM
Which still leaves the chestnut of being able to harness some of this energy. How? :)
How about if....we create an imbalance in the ether, causing a flow, and tapping that to generate a current? I think the Faraday generator creates an imbalance or a gradient, but here are a couple of devices that the Germans were looking into many years ago.
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/Coler%20Magnetstromapparat.htm
Magnetstromapparat devised by German naval engineer and inventor, Hans Coler (or Kohler). Entitled "The Invention of Hans Coler, Relating to an Alleged New Source ol Power," B.I.O.S. Final Report no 1043, Item No. 31, Summer 1946.
This report consisted of tests and findings on two strange circuits conducted at the University of Berlin between the World Wars under the auspices of none other than
Dr. Winfried Otto Schumann, discoverer of the Schumann resonance of the earth. A mere glance will explain why the device attracted the immediate attention of the German Navy, which classified it as a possible source of quiet and limitless energy for submarine propulsion.
And this one I think has the potential to create such an imbalance:
Construction Detail of the Schappeller SphereBasically it consists of a pair of coils wound on to a hollow ceramic form, shaped spherically and contained in an iron sphere. The coils are of copper tubing packed with a permanent electret material. This constitutes the dynomagnetic generator.
To convert the energy into mechanical energy, a rotor is used, also made from copper tube packed with electret. The sphere functions only after the electret material is polarized.
Because of the terminology in the Schappeller theory, it is naturally difficult to follow, that is, apart from the strangeness of the concepts. After several readings, one might conclude that "glowing magnetism" or ether precipitation starts if the electric and/or the magnetic fields reach enormous values at a given point.
It seems that this is the function of the stator device outlined above.
The arrangement of the fields must be such that A REDUCTION IN THE DENSITY of the ether occurs which continues under its OWN INERTIA.
Cosmo
Quote from: Pimander on July 16, 2012, 02:47:30 AM
You're very welcome here. Pleased to meet you. 8)
Same here Pimander! It's been years since I've been a forum member and I feel the old enthusiasm flowing again!
Changed my avatar, that's my Cosmo! He is a wonderful soul and would be so happy to meet you all!
Cosmo
Cosmo, spot on about Schumann resonance, humans were at around 7 in the early 1900's now were closer to 16! shocking for us who have had to adapt yet those born into this resonance it may open up a whole new awakening read on.By Gregg Braden.www.thecamino.com.ar/zeropointand.htm (http://www.thecamino.com.ar/zeropointand.htm)
Quote
The Shift of the Ages has already begun!
Ancient prophecies predicted it. Indigenous traditions honor it. Changes
within the Earth are affecting your sleep patterns, relationships, the
ability to regulate your immune system and your perception of time. You
are living a process of initiation that was demonstrated over 2,000
years ago, preparing you to accept tremendous change within your body.
That change is happening now.
* Migraine headaches, tiredness
* Electrical sensations in the limbs and spinal column
* Cramps in the muscular networks
* Flu like symptoms
* Intense dreams.
These could all be caused by the changes taking place on Earth now!
* The human body will become more sensitive as a result of the new
vibrations.
* The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for
thousands of years. Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz. This means
that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day. Time is speeding up!
* The physical body has already begun to change. A new light body is
being created.
* Our DNA is being re-programmed from the Universe (as predicted in the
Mayan Prophecy). We are going from 2 strand back to 12 strand DNA.
* Greater intuitive and healing abilities will emerge. Each year these
will increase 10 fold.
* Eyes will become catlike in order to adjust to the new atmosphere and
light.
* All children born after 1998 will probably be telepathic at birth.
_________________________________________
Geophysical Condition
Earth's Rising Base Frequency: Earth's background base frequency, or
"heartbeat," (called Schumann Resonance, or SR) is rising dramatically.
Though it varies among geographical regions, for decades the overall
measurement was 7.8 cycles per second. This was once thought to be a
constant; global military communications developed on this frequency.
Recent reports set the rate at over 11 cycles,and climbing. Science
doesn't know why, or what to make of it.
________________________________________
What is a Schumann Resonance?
Believe it or not, the Earth behaves like an enormous electric circuit.
The atmosphere is actually a weak conductor and if there were no sources
of charge, its existing electric charge would diffuse away in about 10
minutes. There is a 'cavity 'defined by the surface of the Earth and the
inner edge of the ionosphere 55 kilometers up. At any moment, the total
charge residing in this cavity is 500,000 Coulombs. There is a vertical
current flow between the ground and the ionosphere of 1 - 3 x 10^-12
Amperes per square meter. The resistance of the atmosphere is 200 Ohms.
The voltage potential is 200,000 Volts. There are about 1000 lightning
storms at any given moment worldwide. Each produces .5 to 1 Ampere and
these collectively account for the measured current flow in the Earth's
'electromagnetic' cavity.
The Schumann Resonances are quasi standing wave electromagnetic waves
that exist in this cavity. Like waves on a spring, they are not present
all the time, but have to be 'excited' to be observed.
They are not caused by anything internal to the Earth, its crust or its core.
They seem to be related to electrical activity in the atmosphere,
particularly during times of intense lightning activity. They occur at
several frequencies between 6 and 50 cycles per second; specifically
7.8, 14, 20, 26, 33, 39 and 45 Hertz, with a daily variation of about
+/- 0 .5 Hertz.
So long as the properties of Earth's electromagnetic
cavity remains about the same, these frequencies remain the same.
Presumably there is some change due to the solar sunspot cycle as the
Earth's ionosphere changes in response to the 11-year cycle of solar
activity. Schumann resonances are most easily seen between 2000 and 2200
UT.
Given that the earth's atmosphere carries a charge, a current and a
voltage, it is not surprising to find such electromagnetic waves. The
resonant properties of this terrestrial cavity were first predicted by
the German physicist W. O. Schumann between 1952 and 1957, and first
detected by Schumann and Konig in 1954. The first spectral
representation of this phenomenon was prepared by Balser and Wagner in
1960. Much of the research in the last 20 years has been conducted by
the Department of the Navy who investigate Extremely Low Frequency
communication with submarines.
For more information, see: "Handbook of Atmospheric Electrodynamics,
vol. I", by Hans Volland, 1995 published by the CRC Press. Chapter 11 is
entirely on Schumann Resonances and is written by Davis Campbell at the
Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska, Fairbanks AK,
99775. There is also a history of this research and an extensive
bibliography. POSSIBLE OUTCOMES
1. Time will appear to speed up as we approach Zero Point. A 24
hour day will seem to about 16 hours or less. Remember the Schumann
Resonance (or "heart beat" of Mother Earth) has been 7.8 cycles for
thousands of years, but has been rising since 1980. It is at about 12
cycles at present. It stops at 13 cycles.
2. Zero Point or the Shift of the Ages has been predicted by ancient
peoples for thousands of years. There have been many shifts including
the one that always occurs every 13,000 years at each half of the 26,000
year, Precession of the Equinox.
3. Zero Point or a flip of the magnetic poles will probably happen,
within the next few years. It could possibly sychronize with the
Earth's four cycle biorhythm that occurs every 20 years on the 12th of
August. The next occurrence is 12th August 2003. The Philadelphia
Experiment and Montauk Project (secret military time travelling) both
locked up to the 12th August/20 year biorhythm.
4. It is said that after Zero Point the Sun will rise in the west and
set in the east, approx. Past occurrence of this change have been found
in ancient records.
5. Interestingly, the New World Order plan to be in power by 2003. This
may or may not happen, depending on many factors and agendas. Stay
centered and follow your intuition.
6. The Zero Point flip will probably introduce us to the 4th dimension.
Here, everything we think or desire will instantly manifest. This
includes love and fear. Our INTENTION will be of utmost importance.
7. Most technology that we know will cease to operate. Possible
exceptions could be technology based on so called "Zero Point" or free
energy.
8. Our physical body is changing as we approach Zero Point. Our DNA is
being "upgraded" to 12 strand. A new light body is being created. We are
becoming more intuitive.
9. The Mayan Calendar predicted all the changes that are occurring now.
They say we are going beyond technology and back to the natural cycles
of nature and the Universe. By 2012 we will have entered the 5th
Dimension (after the flip to the 4th Dimension at Zero Point).
10. Be prepared for changes that
will bring in the new age of light. We are going beyond time
where fear based concepts are totally dissolved.
Future will tell
Hi stealthyaroura,
Hey, another Tesla fan! Cool. Yes, the Schumann resonance is just a property of the earth's "circuit". What Tesla figured out was a way to piggyback onto that circuit and pulse it at a certain frequency that could be picked up like radio waves and he figured out the resonance of earth's circuit before Schumann did. It should be called the Tesla Resonance! Just like he is now credited with the invention of the radio, not Marconi. He was the greatest scientific mind in the history of the human race! If the zero point field changes I agree that it would have an effect on living things. All life manifests in accordance to that quantum field. Plants use it too!
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-it-comes-to-photosynthesis-plants-perform-quantum-computation
Plants soak up some of the 1017 joules of solar energy that bathe Earth each second, harvesting as much as 95 percent of it from the light they absorb. The transformation of sunlight into carbohydrates takes place in one million billionths of a second, preventing much of that energy from dissipating as heat. But exactly how plants manage this nearly instantaneous trick has remained elusive. Now biophysicists at the University of California, Berkeley, have shown that plants use the basic principle of quantum computing—the exploration of a multiplicity of different answers at the same time—to achieve near-perfect efficiency.
Yes we are affected too! As for the dreams, I don't know about you but lately I have been having some crazy realistic dreams, some that have been prophetic. Here's one I had recently. After the intense storms we had a short while back, I had a dream that a friends house had sprung a leak leaving a hole in her ceiling. Now, the odd thing is that she has a one story ranch style house, and in the dream I saw that some kind of line had sprung a leak causing her ceiling to collapse. So, I was thinking that was a stupid dream because her one story house does not have any plumbing above the first floor but I called her anyway to make sure things were ok. She said her house was fine after the storms, so I did not tell her of my stupid dream. Well, 1 day later, I got into my email and she had sent me pics of her collapsed ceiling!!! She had an air conditioner condensation line that ran through her attic and it had leaked causing the ceiling to fall in her living room!!! MY dream was spot on and I have been having some other very very vivid dreams that are crazy and some I truly hope do not come true!!!
Quote from: stealthyaroura on July 19, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
Cosmo, spot on about Schumann resonance, humans were at around 7 in the early 1900's now were closer to 16! shocking for us who have had to adapt yet those born into this resonance it may open up a whole new awakening read on.By Gregg Braden.www.thecamino.com.ar/zeropointand.htm (http://www.thecamino.com.ar/zeropointand.htm)
Been trying to find where that reading of 16 is... How do I verify it?
AMY this quote may help im a little off its nearer 12.
cosmo yep i am a massive Tesla fan he WAS/IS the man. genius.
nice write up! Oh and COSMO my dreams and precognition have been off
the scale for the last couple of years! i am so much more in tune with everything!
i love it!
QuoteTime is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours. Another intrepetation is - we, or rather Consciousness have been down this same road seven times before over the last 16 billion years. Each of these cycles of Creation runs 20 times faster than the last one. The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times tighter. This is why time seems to be going so fast. It is not "time" but Creation itself that is accelerating
Yes, stealthy, but I'm trying to find a scientific confirmation of the speed-up of the Schumann resonance. When I google... I find nothing except some sites saying it is still around 7.8... None of which are the actual measurements being recorded.
Thanks though.
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 19, 2012, 11:35:29 PM
Yes, stealthy, but I'm trying to find a scientific confirmation of the speed-up of the Schumann resonance. When I google... I find nothing except some sites saying it is still around 7.8... None of which are the actual measurements being recorded.
Thanks though.
I know, strange eh? but all the man-made frequency's are not helping! even though
the scientific community don't understand why it's rising (and it is!) i bet TPTB know.
on a side note if you want to get your body back in sync to what it should be there are
little pendants that work.
little water cut wafer thin discs of titanium or one of these(http://intuitiveearth.com/images/beta_blocker.jpg)
Hey y'all!
QuotePlants soak up some of the 1017 joules of solar energy that bathe Earth each second, harvesting as much as 95 percent of it from the light they absorb. The transformation of sunlight into carbohydrates takes place in one million billionths of a second, preventing much of that energy from dissipating as heat. But exactly how plants manage this nearly instantaneous trick has remained elusive. Now biophysicists at the University of California, Berkeley, have shown that plants use the basic principle of quantum computing—the exploration of a multiplicity of different answers at the same time—to achieve near-perfect efficiency.
I just was replying to another thread about this...ironic!
QuoteAnd as for SDP? Im a big proponent of organic computing, using living tissue to interface with typical system processing to form a hybrid of sorts.
Not sure how it would be done, but I have a hunch for some reason it will be the new way.
I remember the tissue experiments in Quantum Physics and have to think that Quantum computer will employ some sort of living tissue...flesh, tree, bird..what have you, but definitely some livng stuff in there!
Le
That mind is a working fellas!:D
Cheers!
Hi Le,
Well then you will probably like this:
Physicists and Geneticists Team Up to Build a Galactic Dark-Matter Detector out of DNA
(http://www.popsci.com/files/imagecache/article_image_large/articles/DNA_detect.jpg)
To me it is just natural, ALL life evolved utilizing these quantum properties, in accordance with the quantum world, the ether. The organic materials of life have been fine tuned to respond to the primary medium.
I think that this too is a reality, I posted this on the Podkletnov thread also:
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420717/why-spacetime-on-the-tiniest-scale-may-be-two/
Today, Carlip outlines his own fascinating take on the problem which is that spacetime on the tiniest scale may be two dimensional. While that may seem a little counterintuitive, he says there is a growing number of indicators (evidence is too strong a word) that point to that conclusion.
Carlip says recent work in loop quantum gravity, high temperature string theory, renormalization group analysis applied to general relativity and other areas of quantum gravity research, all hints at a two dimensional spacetime on the smallest scale. In most of these cases, the number of dimensions simply collapse in a process called spontaneous dimensional reduction as the scale reduces.
All dimensions of space arise out of 2D ether, particles are waves after all, arising out of a common medium. That is why torsion physics can modify space/time/gravity.
Hey stealthyaroura, where can we get one of those pendants??? :D
Wow, these threads are moving so fast, I can't find the time to keep up!!!!!!
Make one ;)
it was on some site i will see if i can find the source.
but really make one, 2 capacitors, 1 diode, 1 resister, 6/7 turns of copper speaker wire
surrounded in a silver mount. SILVER is the female metal so i read where us men are gold.
supposedly :)
(cant find the thing now but there are many pendants of this type available)
im gonna knock one up now for fun
Quote from: COSMO on July 20, 2012, 11:14:41 PM
Hey stealthyaroura, where can we get one of those pendants??? :D
Well it seems my attempt has come up with a result of sorts.
I think what is happening is the winding of copper is acting as
an antenna & it's picking up radio waves then charging the capacitors.
Took me about 10 mins to knock up.
the reading being 007 like the Schumann resonance is quite interesting
but what do the results mean? I shall where this item to see if i gain super powers ;)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr152/stealthyaroura/SP_A0794.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr152/stealthyaroura/SP_A0799.jpg)
The one off some site i used almost the same componentshttp://intuitiveearth.com/images/beta_blocker.jpg (http://intuitiveearth.com/images/beta_blocker.jpg)
I want one! LOL! I have no clue how to make 'em, nor money to buy either the components or the premade one... But I want one. (Seems there's a lot of things to want in this life...)
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 01:34:02 PM
I want one! LOL! I have no clue how to make 'em, nor money to buy either the components or the premade one... But I want one. (Seems there's a lot of things to want in this life...)
There is always someone throwing some electronic item out on the streets when it's broke
or whatever, i'm a massive scavenger of all things electric! if i can carry it home i'm avin it.
That item that i will make into a pendant for experimental use was built with bits & bobs off
some circuit board's i have here and there.
I like making stuff when i'm bored, especially electric gizmo's.That item is nothing spectacular.
Now i understand there is a team of researchers on this web site that are trying to crack the
"zero point field" and harness the power.
Do all of the team have knowledge of the basics of electromechanics? I would expect them all to
be able to whip up a crystal radio, a small motor & a simple LED flashing circuit and all from bits
of scavenged stuff.
The reason i say such is you have to learn how to walk before you can run! sometimes looking back
before the computer chip was mass produced,That is where a lot of answers we need today may be. ;)
How about power from the air???
(http://images.sciencedaily.com/2011/07/110707131545-large.jpg)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110707131545.htm
"There is a large amount of electromagnetic energy all around us, but nobody has been able to tap into it," said Manos Tentzeris, a professor in the Georgia Tech School of Electrical and Computer Engineering who is leading the research. "We are using an ultra-wideband antenna that lets us exploit a variety of signals in different frequency ranges, giving us greatly increased power-gathering capability."
I like the spiral!
Shades of Thomas Henry Moray!
Quote from: COSMO on July 21, 2012, 11:01:42 PM
How about power from the air???
(http://images.sciencedaily.com/2011/07/110707131545-large.jpg)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110707131545.htm
"There is a large amount of electromagnetic energy all around us, but nobody has been able to tap into it," said Manos Tentzeris, a professor in the Georgia Tech School of Electrical and Computer Engineering who is leading the research. "We are using an ultra-wideband antenna that lets us exploit a variety of signals in different frequency ranges, giving us greatly increased power-gathering capability."
I like the spiral!
Shades of Thomas Henry Moray!
cosmo, that is what i'm talking about,nice! there are so many man made frequency's around us
that we CAN tap into them. such a simple circiut and antenna and bingo you can light up an LED.
small scale yes but still is proof of viable energy source (mobile phone charger?)
THEN you have the aether as you-know-who put it.now tapping into that is what a few
seem to have now re-found this "lost/hidden art".
I like your style and thinking ;) do have some gold.
Hmmm spiral yes! Toroid,Vortex,ying/yang etc interesting & the other one, i swear i have seen
that inside a mobile phone as the antenna configuration.
Thanks! Us Tesla folks DO appreciate the same things! Now here is a question I have been pondering for some time. It is along the same lines and I would like your feedback. The device we just looked at is tapping into man made frequencies, and geometries. Now, let's just say that, theoretically, there is a NATURALLY occurring energy pattern that is being generated by the universe and it may be accessed in much the same way. This is something I have been thinking about for some time and have hinted at on a couple of "other previous" forums, but there was no interest and I did not go further. Now, do you think something like that could be possible? Imagine the amount of energy from a source of a specific geometry that is generated by the UNIVERSE. How much energy may it be possible to extract? Should we be talking about this???? :-\
Quote from: COSMO on July 22, 2012, 12:03:28 AM
Thanks! Us Tesla folks DO appreciate the same things! Now here is a question I have been pondering for some time. It is along the same lines and I would like your feedback. The device we just looked at is tapping into man made frequencies, and geometries. Now, let's just say that, theoretically, there is a NATURALLY occurring energy pattern that is being generated by the universe and it may be accessed in much the same way. This is something I have been thinking about for some time and have hinted at on a couple of "other previous" forums, but there was no interest and I did not go further. Now, do you think something like that could be possible? Imagine the amount of energy from a source of a specific geometry that is generated by the UNIVERSE. How much energy may it be possible to extract? Should we be talking about this???? :-\
good question, and i think the idea is sound. and it may be more simple than we know too.
can it be just a case of matching the frequency's, oscillations & resonance so you can build the perfect receiver?
sounds like a plan to me cosmo.you seem to have a good grasp on this angle.
Please keep me informed if you have a "eureka" moment ;)
Are you familiar with this:
(http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!58!7B!CC828678B860/SkyVessel/MagneticNeutral/media/captureD8.jpg)
Have you seen something else similar to this but not recognized as a power source? I am not thinking about a Magnetic Neutral Center Generator, but the principal is related...
Quote from: COSMO on July 22, 2012, 12:56:34 AM
Are you familiar with this:
(http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!58!7B!CC828678B860/SkyVessel/MagneticNeutral/media/captureD8.jpg)
Have you seen something else similar to this but not recognized as a power source? I am not thinking about a Magnetic Neutral Center Generator, but the principal is related...
sorry cosmo cant see pic? just that annoying little box with the red and blue crap init. my fault?
Hmmm, it showed up in preview, how about this time?
(http://divinecosmos.com/resources/shiftoftheages/images/s1302.jpg)
Quote from: COSMO on July 22, 2012, 02:33:57 AM
Hmmm, it showed up in preview, how about this time?
(http://divinecosmos.com/resources/shiftoftheages/images/s1302.jpg)
Yes i can see it now, looks like it's a pic of a bar magnet? i'm not familiar with the bloch wall though.
I cant say i see any thing other than the magnetic principle but im listening if you have a new theory.
I'm more of a build it and see guy than theory :) i'm, not that good with all the math involved in modelling
a new theory and it's a drawback i know. E=Mc2 is about my lot.
I think that universal geometry is within the aether. And yes, there are configurations to draw upon it. Precisely which configurations is not known by Me, but I suspect many to have been hidden and suppressed.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on July 22, 2012, 11:40:26 AM
Yes i can see it now, looks like it's a pic of a bar magnet? i'm not familiar with the bloch wall though.
I cant say i see any thing other than the magnetic principle but im listening if you have a new theory.
I'm more of a build it and see guy than theory :) i'm, not that good with all the math involved in modelling
a new theory and it's a drawback i know. E=Mc2 is about my lot.
Cool! At the center of the magnet, there is the bloch walll where the rotation of the magnetic field reverses, it looks like an infinity loop.
The Earth is also has a similar field:
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTV1NrAGpimk4omj5ZMVeY4-nASK8Cpy4yW8_GE0TM7biyv52RpBBZ7mFal)
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 22, 2012, 01:12:06 PM
I think that universal geometry is within the aether. And yes, there are configurations to draw upon it. Precisely which configurations is not known by Me, but I suspect many to have been hidden and suppressed.
Hi Amaterasu,
We have talked about the Higgs boson being a wave and all particles are waves. So, given that nature, and the nature of nature... :)
there are certain reoccurring patterns that the creation principle uses over and over, it's ALL already there in nature, we just need to recognize it. Man really does not create, but merely utilizes that which nature has already thought of. When there are no waves on the surface of the ocean, the SURFACE is 2 dimensional. If the nature of matter is that it comes into being through waves, or disturbances of the ether/space/time/Higgs field we should consider the possibility that Matter/Ether/Space/Higgs...hey...lets just use mesh...yeah, the mesh....we may want to consider that the mesh is like the surface of the ocean when there is no energy being displayed in the form of waves. So mesh very likely could be 2 dimensional.
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420717/why-spacetime-on-the-tiniest-scale-may-be-two/
I view many of these concepts in terms of what the ancient Hindu sages describe as being the nature of creation, with EVERYTHING manifesting out of a common medium. This applies to physics. So expanding on that concept, all matter and energy, arise out of a 2 dimensional medium, creating all dimensions of space, all energy, and all matter. M-theory suggests 11 dimensions that would look something like this:
Calabi-Yau
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6H9E2gh9QS4/TDs44FhWQ2I/AAAAAAAABiw/I-KIDPLZrxQ/600px-Calabi-Yau_thumb.png)
It may be kine of difficult to mentally visualize 11 dimensions but there is something about that pic I like!
Now, the antennae in my posts above are merely duplicating the geometry of energy patterns that are created in the electromagnetic spectrum by man and tapping those energy patterns. Looking at a magnet, and the picture of Earth above we see that the Earth's magnetic field has the same configuration as a magnet.
Ahhh...here's a good pic:
(http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/mearthbar.gif)
The difference between a magnet and the Earth is, of course, that the Earths is in rotation. This creates a torus pattern like this:
(http://cronodon.com/images/Earth_magnetic_field.jpg)
So,considering the pattern that is being created by the Earth, I have been thinking about a way to create an antenna that would tap into this naturally occurring energy pattern. I have an idea, but, taking into consideration the above info, was wonder if that brings to mind anything with you folks? Any ideas?
Cool posts Cosmo, as I see the Earth itself as a massive half of an EM energy device. A pickup coil of sorts built across a section of flat land, would be the way to go.
The pickup could float upon a track which would allow the Earth to rotate beneath it while the pickup remained static. On the ground would be a linear array of super magnets to induce the EM force into the pickup.
Picture the Earth as the flywheel and the pickup as the ignition coil, and for it to work, there would need to be an array of them so when the first pickup "sled" was returning to its starting point, another pickup could be generating the power as it remains static in accordance to Earhts movement.
It would look like an abacus laying on it's side, with different sections in different stages of generation.
Its a mile wide facility and would be very expensive, but when those supermagnets passed under the pickup, massive amounts of electricity would be inducted into a series of coils and transformers, making it the first Earth Kinetic energy generator.
Ideally it could be placed wherever the best nodal points are and operated indefinitely, possibly eliminating the ground mounted magnets, and using the nodal points as phase shifting input coils.
Have I had too much coffee? let me know how you might use this thoery to refine or build such a device...Im all ears!
Cheers!
Le
I wish I had additional comments to make about how to access this magnetic energy... I will mention an anecdote suggesting it is possible.
A friend of Mine (whom I haven't seen for a while) once worked for an inventor as a "roadie," setting up and taking down the demonstration of an invention as the inventor went about trying to drum up investments.
According to Him, this inventor's device tapped the Earth's magnetic field. And according to Him it worked. And according to Him, this inventor invented it.
So... My friend lost His job doing this because one day the FBI shows up, confiscates all the equipment, and arrests the inventor - for PATENT INFRINGEMENT. (To My knowledge, the inventor is still in prison for this "crime.")
So... If there is a patent...where's the tech?
I essentially view astral space as being like a giant aquarium, that physical reality is immersed inside of. The water permeates the whole thing.
O wow yet another mega thought provoking thread Amy ;D
Thanks.
Haven't read it all yet, just skimmed through, i'm looking forward to reading comments, especially Cosmo & L.E. 8)
Just dropped by to say, IMO it's more E=M and forget the C squared for the moment. Consider that if mass is also continuously 'dimension shifting' then we have a simple model for how this works.
Energy is flowing every which way, in many forms, some of these forms are 1 or 2 dimensional, others flow in 5 dimensions or more.
Mass has typically 4 dimensions, 3 physical ones, and one of Time, i.e. how long it will exist in a certain place.
In actual fact, it appears that Mass (or Matter, to be more exact) is continually being created & destroyed in a sub-particle level. This is similar to the Higgs field/large hadron theory, and could well explain pretty much everything ::)
So Matter is limited to 3 dimensions (while it 'exists') and may well BE in other dimensions when it is not 'existing' in ours.
It gets better.
Energy appears to be not only related to mass, but also to the so-called FORCES. These appear to be able to shift between particular dimensions, but only in particular ones, but since it can be directly exchanged for mass, it can be 'stored' in a particular 3d shape, until it is needed in the form of energy again, in which case, that mass simply 'vanishes' from our perspective.
Neat, huh?
Neat & simple, the way Nature likes it.
Awesome reply, Luke. From what You are saying, I might then presume You don't think extracting usable energy from the "dark"/zero point/radiant/orgone/"vacuum"/plenum/whatever name energy is robbing beings in other dimensions of energy...
I have been discouraged by Others based on this concept that We would be taking away from other "universes" if We tapped this energy. As I have said, I don't think that is true.
QuoteI have been discouraged by Others based on this concept that We would be taking away from other "universes" if We tapped this energy. As I have said, I don't think that is true.
No, i don't think it's true.
it's the
flow of energy that enables life etc.
Energy is never created or destroyed, merely 'moved'.
There is just as much energy flowing from there, as to there.
That's about the best explanation i can give, for what it's worth :D
Works for Me, Luke. Thanks!
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 22, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
No, i don't think it's true.
it's the flow of energy that enables life etc.
Energy is never created or destroyed, merely 'moved'.
There is just as much energy flowing from there, as to there.
That's about the best explanation i can give, for what it's worth :D
Hate to sound like a Hobbit, but I have to look to the clouds and the sea...differentials in the flow.
Energy proper like Luke says already exists, and just relocates along the geometry of our dimensions, along the boudaries of the polygonal construct of the aether.
I am drawn to using the atmospheric pressure differences as a energy differential of sorts, and the sea with its tidal and wave action. Maybe not as dimensional as everyone wants to hear, but physically the air and sea are different dimensions, just not wormholes or stargates.
Pressure is popping into my head now...pop-pop-pop! Why?
Is it Schaubergers device that uses these dimensional differences?
Cheers!
That's just the thing, Dave.
My idea (which is part guesswork, part logic, part observation) is the same as your's and Hobbit's
I don't want to get bogged down in memory fields etc but that view is, IMO essentially correct.....
Have to go now, i will dig up some more files tomorrow 8)
Sleep well, & enjoy the new stuff i posted today..
???
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=150.0 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=150.0)
(sorry it's in the restricted area, many of you can go there, being part of the I.F. team & all....)
wow
sorry to go off topic here..but when i got to this pic
(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/images45.jpg) (http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/untitl33.jpg)
all i saw was the blood circulation of the heart...and then looked at the rest
and just had one of those ah-ha moments..wow
Quote from: Littleenki on July 22, 2012, 10:24:40 PM
Hate to sound like a Hobbit, but I have to look to the clouds and the sea...differentials in the flow.
Energy proper like Luke says already exists, and just relocates along the geometry of our dimensions, along the boudaries of the polygonal construct of the aether.
I am drawn to using the atmospheric pressure differences as a energy differential of sorts, and the sea with its tidal and wave action. Maybe not as dimensional as everyone wants to hear, but physically the air and sea are different dimensions, just not wormholes or stargates.
Pressure is popping into my head now...pop-pop-pop! Why?
Is it Schaubergers device that uses these dimensional differences?
Cheers!
Le,
I do value some of Hobbit's input, and I am reluctant to be critical, but dowsers do not have a good track record. There have been multiple scientific tests that do not bear out the "science" of dowsing. Maybe hobbit is different, but I really don't have a good sense about dowsing in general. When I speak of dimensions I mean SPATIAL dimensions, height, width and depth. They occupy the same space as us and clouds and water and I think M-theory or superstring theory is on the right path with multiple SPATIAL dimension that are at the subatomic scale and the relationship to some of them is ROTATION. That is what the Calabi–Yau manifold attempts to depict. IMHO that is what drives subatomic spin, and I have agreement from a physicist of very high credibility. This spin is what drives the universe, from the subatomic level on up. Clock works within clockworks! And all life springs from this!
Shadow of an atom achieved for the first time recently:
(http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/files/imagecache/news/files/news/Shadow%20Image%20(1).jpg)
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/5756/scientists-capture-world%E2%80%99s-first-atom-shadow
Just think of these subatomic dimensions as different directions. Not left or right, not up or down, but directions that we cannot observe in the macro world. Somewhat counter-intuitive and may not be easy to visualize! I also believe that black holes represent larger dimensional aspects of spacetime and there are other larger geometries that represent larger volumes of space. If we accept that particles are waves, and I do think that is a pretty solid point of reference, then consider that EVERYTHING us 3 dimensional beings can observe is built from these very small building blocks into the 3 dimensional universe we observe. If we start off with the correct model then it is a very logical process of expanding that into the observable universe. Also, if we accept that particles are waves, then it is likely that spacetime/ether is 2 dimensional. Everything is MODIFIED 2D spacetime, all matter and energy...me and you too! All matter and energy is ALWAYS rooted in the ether, that is inertia and is responsible for mass. It is also responsible for gravity, and I think that explains why gravity is so much stronger at the subatomic scale, and a much weaker force in the macro world. Now when we talk about vortex energy, and I do agree, as is stated in Thrive, the the vortex is key, just exactly what is a vortex? It is simply the deformation of 2d spacetime, via TORSION PHYSICS exactly as water going down the drain, causing a SPATIAL extension in the direction of the flow. That is THE model of the universe, it is EVERYWHERE and yes, Schauberger saw that, and spiral galaxies and black holes are exactly that also.
Now back to energy from other dimensions. When we look at the Earth's rotating magnetic field, what geometry does it represent? Exactly what happens at the center of the Earth? What happens at the bloh wall when the flows are reversed? What do YOU see?
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 22, 2012, 05:44:53 PM
I wish I had additional comments to make about how to access this magnetic energy... I will mention an anecdote suggesting it is possible.
A friend of Mine (whom I haven't seen for a while) once worked for an inventor as a "roadie," setting up and taking down the demonstration of an invention as the inventor went about trying to drum up investments.
According to Him, this inventor's device tapped the Earth's magnetic field. And according to Him it worked. And according to Him, this inventor invented it.
So... My friend lost His job doing this because one day the FBI shows up, confiscates all the equipment, and arrests the inventor - for PATENT INFRINGEMENT. (To My knowledge, the inventor is still in prison for this "crime.")
So... If there is a patent...where's the tech?
All righty then! In light of that, oh wait...there's 2 black cars in the drive way and someone is knocking at the door....I'll be right back!
QuoteJust think of these subatomic dimensions as different directions. Not left or right, not up or down, but directions that we cannot observe in the macro world. Somewhat counter-intuitive and may not be easy to visualize!
I do agree that atomic and subatomic elements present a infinite direction of movement within themselves, and it is nearly impossible to define the "direction" of such movement. Are they dimensional movements or are they just an expansion and contraction within a certain field? As the atom holds itself together quite handily, am inclined to point out the scalar nature of the universe, in which evrything exists within everything else.
We are atoms within atoms, and as such our supposed gravity should become lesser, yet the more massive a body is, the greater the gravity, which leads me to believe that although some like to say gravity is stronger at the atomic scale, it is not but is stronger as a sum of the whole, and when a body is massive it represents an assemblage of atoms which amplifies the "gravity" exponentially.
The shadow of the atom shows a 2d version of a spin vector, but as most photography and similar sensor technology is concerned, it can only be seen in a 2d way.
Personally I feel the atom has a 3d construct, and is a torus or counter rotating spin vector field which looks something like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lggn6rbqPA4
I also believe that black holes represent larger dimensional aspects of spacetime and there are other larger geometries that represent larger volumes of space.
When we think aout how the atom has these dual spin vectors, the black hole is the first thing that comes to mind. haramein has talked at length about it in numerous lectures, and has even proposed we are all black holes within more black holes. Even to the point where he has named the Schwarzchild roton to describe the way we are all scalar and formed in black holes which are also atoms.
If we accept that particles are waves, and I do think that is a pretty solid point of reference, then consider that EVERYTHING us 3 dimensional beings can observe is built from these very small building blocks into the 3 dimensional universe we observe. If we start off with the correct model then it is a very logical process of expanding that into the observable universe.
I do believe that we cannot ever get to the core of life and energy formation, due to the simple fact that to observe the event, will always produce a simpler and less accurate outcome...simple Quantum Physics results...silly two slit experiment!:D
Also, if we accept that particles are waves, then it is likely that spacetime/ether is 2 dimensional. Everything is MODIFIED 2D spacetime, all matter and energy...me and you too! All matter and energy is ALWAYS rooted in the ether, that is inertia and is responsible for mass. It is also responsible for gravity, and I think that explains why gravity is so much stronger at the subatomic scale, and a much weaker force in the macro world. Now when we talk about vortex energy, and I do agree, as is stated in Thrive, the the vortex is key, just exactly what is a vortex? It is simply the deformation of 2d spacetime, via TORSION PHYSICS exactly as water going down the drain, causing a SPATIAL extension in the direction of the flow. That is THE model of the universe, it is EVERYWHERE and yes, Schauberger saw that, and spiral galaxies and black holes are exactly that also.
The draining effect shown by Schauberger to be much more than a spiral of water is the perfect example of a torus and its regenerative form.
Now back to energy from other dimensions. When we look at the Earth's rotating magnetic field, what geometry does it represent? Exactly what happens at the center of the Earth? What happens at the bloh wall when the flows are reversed? What do YOU see?
Where I think the whole shooting match is coming from, is that we do need to realize that energy is 2d and for every input there is an equal output in a perfect energy source...the atom.
Cheers!
A direction in spacetime can be considered a spatial dimension but there may be others than the 3 we can observe in the larger world around us, height, width and depth, but just in a different direction in spacetime as opposed to a parallel universe which is another volume of spacetime. I think that is important when we are talking about energy from another dimension. It is not energy from another universe. And of course there is brane theory, with multiple membranes existing as separate universes. Nice animation, and yes, the photo of the shadow of an atom is 2d, as all shadows are. When we look at a spiral galaxy though, we do not see a torus we see a flat disc:
(http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/image_cache/384468289.jpg)
This is analogous to the surface of water being deformed into a vortex and imho is a great demonstration of torsion physics and provides a model of how nature manipulates spacetime/ether. Everything we hope to accomplish in the areas of energy harvesting and star travel is already present in nature, we just have to recognize it. This was Schauberger's forte. Man will never surpass the accomplishments of the natural universe, we can only hope to be wise enough to duplicate it's mastery.
But we digress.
We are looking for a way to harvest energy.
Getting back to the antennae that can tap into the em energy in our environment, I was wondering if there is a similar energy pattern, with a specific geometry that we can access via an antenna of a certain design as in the previous pics. I was thinking about the Earth's magnetic field as a signal generator with a specific energy pattern/geometry. Given the illustrations in my above posts, I was wondering if anybody saw the potential for such?
Another question:
Have you read Col. Corso's book, THE DAY AFTER ROSWELL?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51dSmWMygBL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Day-After-Roswell-Philip-Corso/dp/067101756X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343056534&sr=1-1&keywords=the+day+after+roswell
(did I do that right Z? ;) )
There is something in there that may be of value to this line of questioning.
Here are some very interesting drawings he made from the disc recovered at Roswell. Check them out. See anything familiar?
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Corso_04.pdf
Le,
Speaking of Haramein, he is on Coast to Coast tomorrow night.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/24
Quote from: COSMO on July 23, 2012, 06:11:57 PM
Le,
Speaking of Haramein, he is on Coast to Coast tomorrow night.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/24
thanks cosmo...will b listening!
le
COSMO, well i be damned! the bloch wall in corso's book illustaration :o
now that is VERY interesting .
Nice catch very nice catch 8)
Quote from: stealthyaroura on July 24, 2012, 02:13:40 AM
COSMO, well i be damned! the bloch wall in corso's book illustaration :o
now that is VERY interesting .
Nice catch very nice catch 8)
Hey! Cool! Somebody actually looked! My bread crumbs were getting stale! (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/alien_dance.gif)
Good for you stealthyaroura!!!!!
I don't see why Croso would want to tarnish his sterling military service record. I, for one, have to seriously consider his information.
More food for thought:
Elements 114 and 116, no island of stability yet.
Flerovium and Livermorium
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20540-heaviest-elements-yet-join-periodic-table.html
http://io9.com/5915218/meet-the-two-newest-additions-to-the-periodic-table-of-elements
It appears we may have to get into the 120's before we see the island of stability.
So....now the question is, WHAT was the power source? (http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2914/64/30/69/smiles/76537.gif)
Thanks Z for the new emoticons!!!
I wasnt able to open the pdf on the droid earlier, so I didnt see it til now.
What strikes me is the bloch wall comes together in a center where he writes...gravity.
What happens in the center, is basically that bloch wall... a dipole of sorts, creating a field effect which floats the craft instead of lifting or pushing it skyward.
Like bouyancy?
Is it possible to wind a coil that way and cause the same effect where the two fields meet?
Its as if the center power source is just two electromagnets, with a common core, opposing each other and creating bouyancy and balance, like pressing two neos together and feeling the fields interact with repulsion, yet when they are shoved harder, it presents a last second attraction.
Kinda reminds me of those magnets with multiple norths and souths which repel until the last millimeter. And then attract when close enough.
Am I clueless, or close? ??? ??? ??? ???
I need to get that book!
Amazon here I come!
:D
Good bump, Cosmo!
Cheers!
low on DATA so may be offline till i top up, and busy so will catch up when im able to.keep up
the good work,SA
Stealthy;
QuoteNow i understand there is a team of researchers on this web site that are trying to crack the
"zero point field" and harness the power.
Do all of the team have knowledge of the basics of electromechanics? I would expect them all to
be able to whip up a crystal radio, a small motor & a simple LED flashing circuit and all from bits
of scavenged stuff.
We are, and we do (and we did)
I have some very interesting circuits here......
Bloch walls, on a tip from hobbit, led me in some interesting directions...
Rotation, yes.
I never noticed the Corso connection either, thanks ;) & some gold.
L.E.
QuoteIs it possible to wind a coil that way and cause the same effect where the two fields meet?
We could try (LOL), but why not use 2 coils wound opposite & running antiphase, which is what Hutchison does....
Yet another link in the chain methenks...
QuoteKinda reminds me of those magnets with multiple norths and souths which repel until the last millimeter. And then attract when close enough.
Like the Godin & Roschin experiment perhaps??
Now we are cooking with gas................. :)
I like that german coil circuit!
Ill be lookin closer when I get home Cosmo!
Le
Hey, my copy of Subquantum Kinetics has arrived!!! Yeah! Some more light reading. Something interesting though....I got a used copy and there are annotations in the margins, some interesting observations....and I didn't have to pay extra! :D
Oh, I am so looking forward to Your review, Cosmo! I know I would be dog-paddling just below the surface, considering that I am mathematically challenged, so I opted for the layman's version in Secrets. Been looking for someOne who is less challenged than Myself that has read it - and soon, You'll be one! [grin]
Do keep Me up to date on this!
I haven't read this entire thread yet. The droid is a bit limited. But, energy from other dimensions, maybe it's a trail of breadcrumbs for us to follow, maybe the other dimensions are blowing off steam? It could very well be a hand up, not a hand out.
Shasta
Interesting perspective, Shasta. I like it. [smile]
My point was that some were telling Me that by using ("dark," zero point, radiant, orgone, "vacuum," plenum - pick Your name for it) energy, We were taking energy away from other Beings in other dimensions. I doubt that as the energy flows here anyway.