Energy from Other Dimensions...

[Littleenki]

Cool posts Cosmo, as I see the Earth itself as a massive half of an EM energy device. A pickup coil of sorts built across a section of flat land, would be the way to go.

The pickup could float upon a track which would allow the Earth to rotate beneath it while the pickup remained static. On the ground would be a linear array of super magnets to induce the EM force into the pickup.

Picture the Earth as the flywheel and the pickup as the ignition coil, and for it to work, there would need to be an array of them so when the first pickup "sled" was returning to its starting point, another pickup could be generating the power as it remains static in accordance to Earhts movement.

It would look like an abacus laying on it's side, with different sections in different stages of generation.

Its a mile wide facility and would be very expensive, but when those supermagnets passed under the pickup, massive amounts of electricity would be inducted into a series of coils and transformers, making it the first Earth Kinetic energy generator.

Ideally it could be placed wherever the best nodal points are and operated indefinitely, possibly eliminating the ground mounted magnets, and using the nodal points as phase shifting input coils.

Have I had too much coffee? let me know how you might use this thoery to refine or build such a device...Im all ears!

Cheers!
Le

[Amaterasu]

I wish I had additional comments to make about how to access this magnetic energy...  I will mention an anecdote suggesting it is possible.

A friend of Mine (whom I haven't seen for a while) once worked for an inventor as a "roadie," setting up and taking down the demonstration of an invention as the inventor went about trying to drum up investments.

According to Him, this inventor's device tapped the Earth's magnetic field.  And according to Him it worked.  And according to Him, this inventor invented it.

So...  My friend lost His job doing this because one day the FBI shows up, confiscates all the equipment, and arrests the inventor - for PATENT INFRINGEMENT.  (To My knowledge, the inventor is still in prison for this "crime.")

So...  If there is a patent...where's the tech?

[petrus4]

I essentially view astral space as being like a giant aquarium, that physical reality is immersed inside of.  The water permeates the whole thing.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

O wow yet another mega thought provoking thread Amy
Thanks.
Haven't read it all yet, just skimmed through, i'm looking forward to reading comments, especially Cosmo & L.E.
Just dropped by to say, IMO it's more E=M and forget the C squared for the moment. Consider that if mass is also continuously 'dimension shifting' then we have a simple model for how this works.
Energy is flowing every which way, in many forms, some of these forms are 1 or 2 dimensional, others flow in 5 dimensions or more.
Mass has typically 4 dimensions, 3 physical ones, and one of Time, i.e. how long it will exist in a certain place.
In actual fact, it appears that Mass (or Matter, to be more exact) is continually being created & destroyed in a sub-particle level. This is similar to the Higgs field/large hadron theory, and could well explain pretty much everything
So Matter is limited to 3 dimensions (while it 'exists') and may well BE in other dimensions when it is not 'existing' in ours.

It gets better.

Energy appears to be not only related to mass, but also to the so-called FORCES. These appear to be able to shift between particular dimensions, but only in particular ones, but since it can be directly exchanged for mass, it can be 'stored' in a particular 3d shape, until it is needed in the form of energy again, in which case, that mass simply 'vanishes' from our perspective.
Neat, huh?
Neat & simple, the way Nature likes it.

[Amaterasu]

Awesome reply, Luke.  From what You are saying, I might then presume You don't think extracting usable energy from the "dark"/zero point/radiant/orgone/"vacuum"/plenum/whatever name energy is robbing beings in other dimensions of energy...

I have been discouraged by Others based on this concept that We would be taking away from other "universes" if We tapped this energy.  As I have said, I don't think that is true.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I have been discouraged by Others based on this concept that We would be taking away from other "universes" if We tapped this energy.  As I have said, I don't think that is true.

No, i don't think it's true.
it's the flow of energy that enables life etc.
Energy is never created or destroyed, merely 'moved'.
There is just as much energy flowing from there, as to there.
That's about the best explanation i can give, for what it's worth

[Amaterasu]

Works for Me, Luke.  Thanks!

[Littleenki]

No, i don't think it's true.
it's the flow of energy that enables life etc.
Energy is never created or destroyed, merely 'moved'.
There is just as much energy flowing from there, as to there.
That's about the best explanation i can give, for what it's worth

Hate to sound like a Hobbit, but I have to look to the clouds and the sea...differentials in the flow.
Energy proper like Luke says already exists, and just relocates along the geometry of our dimensions, along the boudaries of the polygonal construct of the aether.

I am drawn to using the atmospheric pressure differences as a energy differential of sorts, and the sea with its tidal and wave action. Maybe not as dimensional as everyone wants to hear, but physically the air and sea are different dimensions, just not wormholes or stargates.

Pressure is popping into my head now...pop-pop-pop! Why?

Is it Schaubergers device that uses these dimensional differences?

Cheers!

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

That's just the thing, Dave.
My idea (which is part guesswork, part logic, part observation) is the same as your's and Hobbit's
I don't want to get bogged down in memory fields etc but that view is, IMO essentially correct.....
Have to go now, i will dig up some more files tomorrow
Sleep well, & enjoy the new stuff i posted today..

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=150.0

(sorry it's in the restricted area, many of you can go there, being part of the I.F. team & all....)

[sky otter]

wow

sorry to go off topic here..but when i got to this pic
 


all i saw was the blood circulation of the heart...and then looked at the rest
and just had one of those ah-ha moments..wow

[COSMO]

Hate to sound like a Hobbit, but I have to look to the clouds and the sea...differentials in the flow.
Energy proper like Luke says already exists, and just relocates along the geometry of our dimensions, along the boudaries of the polygonal construct of the aether.

I am drawn to using the atmospheric pressure differences as a energy differential of sorts, and the sea with its tidal and wave action. Maybe not as dimensional as everyone wants to hear, but physically the air and sea are different dimensions, just not wormholes or stargates.

Pressure is popping into my head now...pop-pop-pop! Why?

Is it Schaubergers device that uses these dimensional differences?

Cheers!

Le,
I do value some of Hobbit's input, and I am reluctant to be critical, but dowsers do not have a good track record.  There have been multiple scientific tests that do not bear out the "science" of dowsing.  Maybe hobbit is different, but I really don't have a good sense about dowsing in general.  When I speak of dimensions I mean SPATIAL dimensions, height, width and depth.  They occupy the same space as us and clouds and water and I think M-theory or superstring theory is on the right path with multiple SPATIAL dimension that are at the subatomic scale and the relationship to some of them is ROTATION.  That is what the  Calabi–Yau manifold attempts to depict.  IMHO that is what drives subatomic spin, and I have agreement from a physicist of very high credibility.  This spin is what drives the universe, from the subatomic level on up.  Clock works within clockworks!  And all life springs from this!

Shadow of an atom achieved for the first time recently:



http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/5756/scientists-capture-world%E2%80%99s-first-atom-shadow


  Just think of these subatomic dimensions as different directions.  Not left or right, not up or down, but directions that we cannot observe in the macro world.  Somewhat counter-intuitive and may not be easy to visualize!  I also believe that black holes represent larger dimensional aspects of spacetime and there are other larger geometries that represent larger volumes of space.  If we accept that particles are waves, and I do think that is a pretty solid point of reference, then consider that EVERYTHING us 3 dimensional beings can observe is built from these very small building blocks into the 3 dimensional universe we observe.  If we start off with the correct model then it is a very logical process of expanding that into the observable universe.  Also, if we accept that particles are waves, then it is likely that spacetime/ether is 2 dimensional.  Everything is MODIFIED 2D spacetime, all matter and energy...me and you too!  All matter and energy is ALWAYS rooted in the ether, that is inertia and is responsible for mass.  It is also responsible for gravity, and I think that explains why gravity is so much stronger at the subatomic scale, and a much weaker force in the macro world.  Now when we talk about vortex energy, and I do agree, as is stated in Thrive, the the vortex is key, just exactly what is a vortex?  It is simply the deformation of 2d spacetime, via TORSION PHYSICS exactly as water going down the drain, causing a SPATIAL extension  in the direction of the flow.  That is THE model of the universe, it is EVERYWHERE and yes, Schauberger saw that, and spiral galaxies and black holes are exactly that also.
Now back to energy from other dimensions.  When we look at the Earth's rotating magnetic field, what geometry does it represent?  Exactly what happens at the center of the Earth?  What happens at the bloh wall when the flows are reversed?  What do YOU see?

I wish I had additional comments to make about how to access this magnetic energy...  I will mention an anecdote suggesting it is possible.

A friend of Mine (whom I haven't seen for a while) once worked for an inventor as a "roadie," setting up and taking down the demonstration of an invention as the inventor went about trying to drum up investments.

According to Him, this inventor's device tapped the Earth's magnetic field.  And according to Him it worked.  And according to Him, this inventor invented it.

So...  My friend lost His job doing this because one day the FBI shows up, confiscates all the equipment, and arrests the inventor - for PATENT INFRINGEMENT.  (To My knowledge, the inventor is still in prison for this "crime.")

So...  If there is a patent...where's the tech?

All righty then! In light of that, oh wait...there's 2 black cars in the drive way and someone is knocking at the door....I'll be right back!


       

[Littleenki]

 

Just think of these subatomic dimensions as different directions.  Not left or right, not up or down, but directions that we cannot observe in the macro world.  Somewhat counter-intuitive and may not be easy to visualize!

I do agree that atomic and subatomic elements present a infinite direction of movement within themselves, and it is nearly impossible to define the "direction" of such movement. Are they dimensional movements or are they just an expansion and contraction within a certain field? As the atom holds itself together quite handily,  am inclined to point out the scalar nature of the universe, in which evrything exists within everything else.

We are atoms within atoms, and as such our supposed gravity should become lesser, yet the more massive a body is, the greater the gravity, which leads me to believe that although some like to say gravity is stronger at the atomic scale, it is not but is stronger as a sum of the whole, and when a body is massive it represents an assemblage of atoms which amplifies the "gravity" exponentially.

The shadow of the atom shows a 2d version of a spin vector, but as most photography and similar sensor technology is concerned, it can only be seen in a 2d way.

Personally I feel the atom has a 3d construct, and is a torus or counter rotating spin vector field which looks something like this...




I also believe that black holes represent larger dimensional aspects of spacetime and there are other larger geometries that represent larger volumes of space.

When we think aout how the atom has these dual spin vectors, the black hole is the first thing that comes to mind. haramein has talked at length about it in numerous lectures, and has even proposed we are all black holes within more black holes. Even to the point where he has named the Schwarzchild roton to describe the way we are all scalar and formed in black holes which are also atoms.

  If we accept that particles are waves, and I do think that is a pretty solid point of reference, then consider that EVERYTHING us 3 dimensional beings can observe is built from these very small building blocks into the 3 dimensional universe we observe.  If we start off with the correct model then it is a very logical process of expanding that into the observable universe.

I do believe that we cannot ever get to the core of life and energy formation, due to the simple fact that to observe the event, will always produce a simpler and less accurate outcome...simple Quantum Physics results...silly two slit experiment!:D

Also, if we accept that particles are waves, then it is likely that spacetime/ether is 2 dimensional.  Everything is MODIFIED 2D spacetime, all matter and energy...me and you too!  All matter and energy is ALWAYS rooted in the ether, that is inertia and is responsible for mass.  It is also responsible for gravity, and I think that explains why gravity is so much stronger at the subatomic scale, and a much weaker force in the macro world.  Now when we talk about vortex energy, and I do agree, as is stated in Thrive, the the vortex is key, just exactly what is a vortex?  It is simply the deformation of 2d spacetime, via TORSION PHYSICS exactly as water going down the drain, causing a SPATIAL extension  in the direction of the flow.  That is THE model of the universe, it is EVERYWHERE and yes, Schauberger saw that, and spiral galaxies and black holes are exactly that also.

The draining effect shown by Schauberger to be much more than a spiral of water is the perfect example of a torus and its regenerative form.

Now back to energy from other dimensions.  When we look at the Earth's rotating magnetic field, what geometry does it represent?  Exactly what happens at the center of the Earth?  What happens at the bloh wall when the flows are reversed?  What do YOU see?

Where I think the whole shooting match is coming from, is that we do need to realize that energy is 2d and for every input there is an equal output in a perfect energy source...the atom.

Cheers!

[COSMO]

A direction in spacetime can be considered a spatial dimension but there may be others than the 3 we can observe in the larger world around us, height, width and depth, but just in a different direction in spacetime as opposed to a parallel universe which is another volume of spacetime.  I think that is important when we are talking about energy from another dimension.  It is not energy from another universe.  And of course there is brane theory, with multiple membranes existing as separate universes.  Nice animation, and yes, the photo of the shadow of an atom is 2d, as all shadows are.  When we look at a spiral galaxy though, we do not see a torus we see a flat disc:



This is analogous to the surface of water being deformed into a vortex and imho is a great demonstration of torsion physics and provides a model of how nature manipulates spacetime/ether.  Everything we hope to accomplish in the areas of energy harvesting and star travel is already present in nature, we just have to recognize it.  This was Schauberger's forte.  Man will never surpass the accomplishments of the natural universe, we can only hope to be wise enough to duplicate it's mastery.
But we digress. 
We are looking for a way to harvest energy.
Getting back to the antennae that can tap into the em energy in our environment, I was wondering if there is a similar energy pattern, with a specific geometry that we can access via an antenna of a certain design as in the previous pics.  I was thinking about the Earth's magnetic field as a signal generator with a specific energy pattern/geometry.   Given the illustrations in my above posts, I was wondering if anybody saw the potential for such?
Another question:
Have you read Col. Corso's book, THE DAY AFTER ROSWELL?



http://www.amazon.com/Day-After-Roswell-Philip-Corso/dp/067101756X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343056534&sr=1-1&keywords=the+day+after+roswell

(did I do that right Z?  )

There is something in there that may be of value to this line of questioning.

Here are some very interesting drawings he made from the disc recovered at Roswell.  Check them out.  See anything familiar?

http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Corso_04.pdf


   

[COSMO]

Le,
Speaking of Haramein, he is on Coast to Coast tomorrow night.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/24

[Littleenki]

Le,
Speaking of Haramein, he is on Coast to Coast tomorrow night.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/24

thanks cosmo...will b listening!
le