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Hospitals in Aurora and Denver are reeling from the mass casualty of this morning.  The hype over the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises turned into mayhem at the Century 16 Theater.  It's the worst mass casualty for Colorado since Columbine High in 1999.

Shasta

What are the chances the shooter was mind controlled...?  Just something that popped up in My spidy sense...

Yea, just read this on Yahoo News, 12 dead and 50 wounded, smoke bomb and stuff at his house. Makings for a bomb or something else. Hope he has no friends in on this that will act later. This is going to hurt the movies very bad this summer. I doubt if anyone will want to go. I guess we have to wait for what the connections are. DVD sales will go up sort of thing. Ticket sales down. Did he hate that movie theater or Batman. This is going to keep a lot of people home this summer! Everyone will stay out of congested places for sure.

In the article, I did find the Yahoo statement rather curious, "It was not Muslim Related" and nothing else.

Deuem

Yeah, and while We're at it, it wasn't Buddism-related, Wicca-related, Shinto-related, Bahá'í-related, Jainism-related, Hinduism-related, Judaism-related, Catholic-related...

Geez.

"A few weeks ago, a man by the username of 'JamesHolmes154' posted a thread on 9gag saying he was going to 'shoot up' a theater. He was clearly distressed and admitted he was suffering from PTSD. He said he was going to walk in and try to take as much lifes as possible. The whole 9gag community egged him on and give? him tips on what to wear, etc. "

Also interesting that this happens one week before Hitlary and Barry are purported to be about to sign the UN's "Arms Trade Treaty".

TSA agents and screenings coming to theaters and malls near you soon.

It's mighty fishy to Me.  My spidy sense usually doesn't pop up without My "consulting" it, but in this case it just started blaring.

Yeah, the excuse They need to convince Us to disarm Ourselves.

Yes, this was a made to happen horror show by the controllers. Another script played out like this one.

July 22, 2011: At least 80 people are killed at a summer camp on the Norwegian island of Utoya. The accused, Anders Behring Breivik, is also suspected in a blast earlier the same day in downtown Oslo that killed seven.

Look into the story and they have ready made information to soon for a random act.

Another story to keep an eye on is the BURGAS, Bulgaria bombing of a bus full of israeli students by a man who is caught on bus depot surveilance video. Quickly, this is reported right after the event.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the bombing "was carried out by Hezbollah, the long arm of Iran." They quickly find a michigan drivers license (sound familar) that bomber used but surely is Hezbollah from Iran.

Israel was quick to blame Iran and its Lebanese ally Hezbollah for the attack and a U.S. official told The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity Wednesday night that Hezbollah was believed to be behind the attack.

On Thursday, Bulgarian television aired security camera footage showing the suspected bomber wandering in and out of the terminal shortly before the blast. He was dressed as a tourist himself, wearing a baseball cap, T-shirt, plaid shorts and sneakers with short white socks. He carried a large backpack with wheels.

Interior Minister Tsvetan Tsvetanov said the backpack contained the bomb, which detonated in the luggage compartment of the bus. The bomber was believed to have been about 36 years old and had been in the country between four and seven days, Tsvetanov said without elaborating.

Deja vue, 911 all over again with sound investigative work with all kinds of before the event clues but nothing being done about it.

BTW, I viewed the images of the guy who was labeled the bomber and it looked very deliberatly photochopped he was cut and pasted into the bus depot lobby. Of all the people in the photo, he seemed to be missing his shadow on the marble floor.

This stuff is made up to get you where they want you.

Yes indeedy-do.  I knew the Burgas thing was a sham as soon as I heard about it.  And this, too, has prints of made-up-ness.  They HAD to say that He wasn't "muslim related."  Uh huh.

Better control these home-grown terrorists!  Turn in Your guns now like good little sheep!

Take note of the shadow of the bomber quickly recognized and ID'd by on the spot detective investigators.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175859/Burgas-airport-suicide-bomber-Bulgarian-Israel-points-finger-Iran.html

Yeah, the shadow on that guy is all wrong.  [sigh]  What is with these evil fooks?  They think We're so dumb.

Well, sadly, enough are dumb enough not to investigate and just consume what They are fed.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 20, 2012, 03:15:52 PM
What are the chances the shooter was mind controlled...?  Just something that popped up in My spidy sense...

Amaterasu, to me, mind control seemed obvious pretty much from the word go, although of course there were the usual suspects elsewhere, telling me I was fantasising when I suggested it, etc.

I've already seen the movie, though.  It's very nasty.  Bane is probably the single worst villain, in moral terms, that I've ever seen in any movie anywhere.  He is a complete monster; all he does is kill and destroy.

These systemic mass shootings appear to be playing out all across the globe. Countries with gun control are experiencing the same scripts. Gun control is there to allow the horror to go unchallenged and with impunity from adequate public response.


Its occuring in situational (military) locations where guns are everywhere and still the massacres happen.

As details unravel on the shooter, we see the print online says he was withdrawing from school. I found this rather smoke and mirror report. Their saying the suspect now was a brilliant student. Whats with these students going on shooting rampages. How was he able to afford 4 expensive guns if he was enrolled in a college and perhaps out of work.

QuoteHolmes struggled to find work after graduating with highest honors in the spring of 2010 with a neuroscience degree from the University of California, Riverside, said the neighbor, retired electrical engineer Tom Mai.

Holmes enrolled last year in a neuroscience Ph.D. program at the University of Colorado-Denver but was in the process of withdrawing, said school officials, who didn't provide a reason. As part of the advanced program in Denver, a James Holmes had been listed as making a presentation in May about Micro DNA Biomarkers in a class named "Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders."

http://www.mail.com/news/us/1442666-colorado-suspect-was-brilliant-science-student.html#.1440586-stage-related1-4

Quote from: petrus4 on July 20, 2012, 07:13:41 PM
Amaterasu, to me, mind control seemed obvious pretty much from the word go, although of course there were the usual suspects elsewhere, telling me I was fantasising when I suggested it, etc.

Ah yes mind control...  buy a John Lear official tin foil hat and stop watching murder movies :P

What I find really fascinating in this story is;

Jessica Ghawi

On June 2, 2012, a shooting took place at a food court at the Toronto Eaton Centre, while the mall was heavily crowded with shoppers. Five people were shot; one of them, 24-year-old Ahmed Hassan, died at the scene and another on June 11

A woman who was near the Eaton Centre shooting, Jessica Ghawi, was killed a month later in the 2012 Aurora shooting.[

Aspiring sportscaster Jessica Ghawi, killed in Colorado shooting, narrowly missed Toronto Eaton Centre gunfire (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/20/aspiring-sportscaster-jessica-ghawi-killed-in-colorado-shooting-narrowly-missed-toronto-eaton-centre-gunfire/)

Aurora is a suburb of Toronto

What are the odds that this lady is at the scene of two mass shootings within a month?

Seems when the Universe decides your time is up, there is nothing you can do...

Just an awesome set of coincidences here

Ya pretty poor move on Warner Brother's part to release trailers for this at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBa5gPI6zgQ

Ironically this tradgedy was portrayed in an issue of Batman:

QuoteThe horrific shooting at the screening of The Dark Knight Rises in Colorado late last night bears eerie similarities to a scene in the 1986 comic Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. In the comic, a crazed, gun-toting loner walks into a movie theater and begins shooting it up, killing three in the process. The passage concludes with the media blaming Batman for inspiring the shooting, though he is not involved in the incident at all.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/batman-movie-shooting-imitated-from-scene-in-1985-comic/article/2502701 (http://washingtonexaminer.com/batman-movie-shooting-imitated-from-scene-in-1985-comic/article/2502701)

A six year year old girl died in the shooting.  Her pregnant mother lost the baby.  The baby was due in about two months, so the viability threshold had been passed.  The mother is not expected to survive.  My daughter works in pharmacy at one of the hospitals that got some of the victims and my son-in-law works there in security.  The hospital remains on lockdown.  The shooter's apartment is about three miles from where I live.

Shasta

Alex Jones on The Dark Knight, this from a few weeks ago.
Right on Target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqhp7bW-HEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqhp7bW-HEY

Tragic. My prayers for all those who have been harmed.

Quote from: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 02:15:54 AM
Ah yes mind control...  buy a John Lear official tin foil hat and stop watching murder movies :P

Can you tell me what you think the cause of this was, zorgon?  Maybe it wasn't mind control; but I honestly don't believe that something like this happens in a vacuum.

I've been consistently accused of being unscientific, in other places; but I thought that one element of scientific thinking, was that for every effect, there is a given cause.  Maybe the idea of MK-Ultra mind control is implausible; but I really do not understand how the idea that this was, "just a random nut," is actually any more plausible than that.  The mind control idea might be far fetched, but at least it's an explanation that could actually go somewhere.  "Just some random nut," doesn't tell us anything at all.

From here:-

QuoteReports said the attacker had a ticket but left the cinema, pretending to receive a phone call, before returning fully armed.

He wore a bullet-proof vest, tactical body armour and gloves, and was carrying an AR-15 military-style, semi-automatic rifle, a shotgun and two pistols, police said.

He threw two tear gas grenades, then opened fire with a rifle. There was chaos as movie-goers fled, some dressed in costume as heroes and villains.

(Emphasis mine)

I'm sorry, but in my own mind, this was a government plant.  Read the description in the same article, of all the crap that was found in his apartment.  Then look at the photogenic mug shot, with the stereotypical psychopathic smile; reminded me of Jared Lee Loughner.  Once again, they also knew within an hour, who was responsible for the whole thing.  Amazing how fast the system can work when it needs to, eh? ;)

The whole thing is a complete joke, as far as any semblance of credibility is concerned.  We have transparent, incredibly sloppy government operations, that are apparently only designed at this point to fool a population who are sufficiently dumbed down, and dosed up on SSRIs that they can't see through them, or are neurochemically incapable of caring.  Obama literally told people in his speech, not to question what had happened; "such evil is senseless."

I guess if it's so "senseless," we can dispense with the usual formalities, like motive.  We can cease trying to figure out what someone could possibly hope to accomplish by filling their apartment with explosives.  Because this guy was just some random nutcase, who went off for absolutely no discernible reason.  Nothing more to see here; move along.  People just snap.  Happens all the time, right?

Apart from anything else, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that when these disasters happen, the most effective means we have of honouring the victims, is simply to take the government's word for what happened.  The most important thing to do, in light of this tragedy, is to make sure that more gun control legislation gets passed as quickly as possible; because if we live in a society where potentially anyone can be a violent psychopath, a crucial thing to ensure, is that it's only the psychopaths within the police or military who are armed.

Yeah, that'll make everyone much safer.

I agree.  This was orchestrated.  Where did all this weaponry and accoutrement come from?  Surely the student could not afford to run out and buy all this equipment (and know who to buy it from!).  Another "false flag" to get Us to believe giving up Our weapons is "for Our own safety."

May Benny Franklin's words ring loud now!

Natural News: Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged (http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz21FMM3VNn)

Looks like I'm not the only one who's having problems with the official story.  Mike Adams can be a bit extreme, but I think he's pretty much on the money in this case.

Nope.  You're surely not.

I hope the points made in that article reach the general populace.  We need this info on a large scale so as to shame Our "leaders" into forgoing the signing of that "treaty."

I though "mind control" long before all these details came out.  It just felt like it.  Spidy sense and all.

When this is all said and done, you will need a permit to carry your gun out of the house. It will have travel plans for the day and no ammo will be allowed with it. They do this with planes now. That is the next step. They can't take them away so they will regulate the movement. Anyone caught with a loaded gun or a gun and ammo will be taken down town. One with out the other they can control. No where does it say they can't do that! After that, they will make you wear a bright red or orange jacket if you are with gun or ammo. Everyone with the jacket on will be stopped and searched for permits, everyone else will be shot on site. Watch and see!

Deuem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMv7XvOYPLs

We've got this video from Alex Jones now, as well.

Quote from: Gigas on July 20, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
Yes, this was a made to happen horror show by the controllers...

Agreed.

QuoteDeja vue, 911 all over again with sound investigative work with all kinds of before the event clues but nothing being done about it.

Agreed.

QuoteBTW, I viewed the images of the guy who was labeled the bomber and it looked very deliberatly photochopped he was cut and pasted into the bus depot lobby. Of all the people in the photo, he seemed to be missing his shadow on the marble floor.

This stuff is made up to get you where they want you.

We like where you are going with this.

Link/and/or photo, please?

Thank you for your time. consideration and participation.

Peace Love Light

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Quote from: deuem on July 21, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
When this is all said and done, you will need a permit to carry your gun out of the house. It will have travel plans for the day and no ammo will be allowed with it. They do this with planes now. That is the next step. They can't take them away so they will regulate the movement. Anyone caught with a loaded gun or a gun and ammo will be taken down town. One with out the other they can control. No where does it say they can't do that! After that, they will make you wear a bright red or orange jacket if you are with gun or ammo. Everyone with the jacket on will be stopped and searched for permits, everyone else will be shot on site. Watch and see!

Deuem

Deuem,

When this is done...You will have to have a permit to have a gun at all!  And it will likely go the way of the marijuana tax stamp.  You have to have a gun to get the permit to get a gun...  What?  You want Your first gun???  Sorry.  You have to have a (illegal) gun to get the permit to get a gun.  And since We took away all the guns...  Too bad.

The routine presence of APD at the Aurora Town Center, secondary to gang activity, played a large part in the fast response.  The center does not allow unaccompanied minors to haunt the mall on weekend nights because it was losing so much business to gang activity. 
I don't feel objective enough on this incident to comment about the possibility of mind control.  I do find myself wondering if such a thing could have happened when my cousin Tom was chief of police here.  I think the police used to be more in tune with the populace.

Shasta

Well something odd was involved, Shasta.  A broke, unemployed college student does not come up with all that specialized equipment and weaponry without outside involvement.

Something definitely seems afoot to me...

QuoteHolmes had enrolled last year in a neuroscience Ph.D. program at the University of Colorado-Denver, though he left the program last month for unknown reasons. In academic achievement, "he was at the top of the top," recalled Timothy P. White, chancellor at the University of California, Riverside, where Holmes earned his undergraduate degree before attending the Denver school.

Those who knew Holmes described him as a shy, intelligent person raised in California by parents who were active in their well-to-do suburban neighborhood in San Diego. Holmes played soccer at Westview High School and ran cross-country before going to college.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/21/colorado-theatre-shooting.html?ref=fh,www.mymanitoba.com (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/21/colorado-theatre-shooting.html?ref=fh,www.mymanitoba.com)

???

QuoteAcquaintance: Holmes Unalarming, 'Kind of Geeky'
Jackie Mitchell, who lives a block from Holmes' apartment in Aurora, said he had several beers with Holmes just days before the shooting and Holmes did not show any angry or anti-social tendencies.

"He seemed kind of geeky," Mitchell said. "We just talked about football... that kind of thing."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aurora-colo-batman-shooter-james-holmes-phd-student/story?id=16817842#.UAmg62FQ6Ag (http://abcnews.go.com/US/aurora-colo-batman-shooter-james-holmes-phd-student/story?id=16817842#.UAmg62FQ6Ag)

QuoteMr. Holmes seemed ordinary too, for the most part, said Billy Kromka, a premed student at the University of Colorado, Boulder, who worked with Mr. Holmes for three months last summer as a research assistant.

Quote"There was no way I thought he could have the capacity to commit an atrocity like this," said Mr. Kromka, who is from Aurora. Mr. Kromka said that Mr. Holmes's "disposition was a little off" and that he could be socially awkward, one of the quieter people in the lab. He spent much of his time immersed in his computer, often participating in role-playing online games.
His criminal history with the Aurora Police Department consisted before Friday of one traffic summons, for speeding, in October.

A spokeswoman for the University of Colorado Denver-Anschutz Medical Campus, Jackie Brinkman, said Mr. Holmes was in the process of dropping out of school because of academic problems. She said the university was unaware of any incidents with campus police or disciplinary problems involving Mr. Holmes while he was enrolled.

Mr. Holmes grew up in a quiet, middle-class community at the eastern edge of San Diego, where his parents still live. Two-story, Spanish-style tract homes line both sides of the street, all white stucco with red tile roofs and well-kept lawns. His mother, Arlene Rosemary Holmes, is a registered nurse.

One neighbor, Margie Aguilar, said she knew the Holmes family, who she said had lived in the area for at least 10 years. Her son was a little younger than Mr. Holmes and attended the same high school, Westview, which is just up the street.

"The parents are really, really nice people," Ms. Aguilar said. "This is the last thing you'd expect."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1)

Well certainly one extreme to the other and NO ONE SUSPECTED A THING?

QuoteThe man in custody for allegedly killing 12 people at the screening of the latest Batman movie in Aurora, Colorado told authorities after the shooting that he "was The Joker," NYPD police commissioner Ray Kelly said today.

Kelly told reporters the suspect, identified by federal officials as 24-year-old James Holmes, had dyed his hair like The Joker. The Joker is a well-known villain in the fictional Batman universe. The attack took place at a screening of "The Dark Knight Rises," the final movie in a Batman trilogy, following "The Dark Knight" in which The Joker was the principal villain.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-suspect-joker-cops/story?id=16822251 (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-suspect-joker-cops/story?id=16822251)

QuoteIn the last 60 days Mr. Holmes had purchased four guns at local gun shops, Chief Oates said. And through the Internet, he bought more than 6,000 rounds of ammunition: more than 3,000 rounds for the assault rifle, 3,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammunition for the two Glocks, and 300 rounds for the 12-gauge shotgun. The guns were all bought legally, a federal law enforcement official said.

Quote"Our investigation determined his apartment is booby trapped with various incendiary and chemical devices and apparent trip wires," Chief Oates said around midday Friday. "We have an active and difficult scene. It may be resolved in hours or days. We simply don't know how we're going to handle that." Federal law enforcement officials said that the apartment had been so extensively booby-trapped that the devices could not be safely defused and that a robot would be sent to trigger them. Late Friday, the dozens of residents in five apartment buildings in the area remained evacuated.

"It is a very vexing problem how to enter that apartment safely," Chief Oates said. "Personally I've never seen anything like what the pictures show us is in there. I'm a layman when it comes to bomb stuff. I see an awful lot of wires. Trip wires. Jars full of ammunition. Jars full of liquid. Some things that look like mortar rounds. We have a lot of challenges to get in there safely."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1)

QuoteQuestion: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?A decent AR-15 rifle costs $1,000 or more all by itself. The shotgun and handgun might run another $800 total. Spare mags, sights, slings, and so on will run you at least another $1,000 across three firearms. The bullet-proof vest is easily another $800, and the cost of the bomb-making gear is anybody's guess. With all the specialty body gear, ammunition, booby-trap devices and more, I'm guessing this is at least $20,000 in weapons and tactical gear, much of which is very difficult for civilians to get in the first place.

The mere manufacture of an explosive booby-trap device is, all by itself, a felony crime by the way. And remember: "Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes' apartment is booby-trapped with a 'sophisticated' maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it," reported Yahoo News

http://www.prisonplanet.com/colorado-batman-shooting-shows-obvious-signs-of-being-staged.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/colorado-batman-shooting-shows-obvious-signs-of-being-staged.html)

Was this allowed to happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aVMfYR8to

:o

Quote from: Gigas on July 20, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
Take note of the shadow of the bomber quickly recognized and ID'd by on the spot detective investigators.

Hello Gigas, As you might know or not I do a lot of work with light. Sun light and shadows show up real nice. I will not be posting the results from this photo.

IMHO: But will say that all the arrows are correct. I found 3 strong light sources. One clarification, the arrow on the upper right is sunlight and reflections not shadow, it extends on the floor right past him on the right and out of frame. It overlaps the shadow from the guy on the right who has a shadow also the same as the man. Every thing in the photo looks good except the 3 faces and her hair got cut. Her arm is the only thing that looks real to me. All 3 faces seemed to have been changed out. Other than that, the photo looks real. I can not pick up that he has been shopped in. Oh, also the crest or photo on the t has been changed or altered.

Detective Deuem on the case.

a question for Haole

in reply #4 you posted about 9 gag ..were you there or are you just repeating something you saw posted elsewhere
the reason i ask is becasue of this article below...

because if you were there and saw the posts it would be very interesting

9gag Users' Posts 'Egging On' Colorado Theater Shooter Likely A Hoax [UPDATE]
Posted: 07/20/2012 12:11 pm Updated: 07/20/2012 2

  [UPDATE]: 9gag.com has responded to the alleged posts, telling The Huffington Post that they are indeed a hoax and do not exist:

The Colorado 'Dark Knight' shooting is a devastating tragedy, and our thoughts and prayers go out the victims and their families. When we initially heard the rumor that one of our users may have been involved, we did an immediate and thorough search of the site and found absolutely zero evidence that any of the alleged posts ever appeared on 9GAG. Any reports otherwise are completely untrue and we ask your help in putting this incredibly insensitive hoax to rest. Our hearts go out to the victims and their families and, as the investigation continues, we will certainly help in any way we can.
-- Kim Barsi, 9gag.com representative

rest of article here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/9gag-users-posts-egging-on-shooter-hoax_n_1689765.html?ir=Technology

ok..i just came back to say that if the words aren't yours..you should say so
less confusion that way
;D

I'm still in shock from the theater shootings.  I was watching footage of the shooter's apartment and feeling thankful that my son-in-law didn't qulify for the police academy and crime scene investigation.  I've also seen pictures of the shooter.  His eyes are wrong.  There's no humanity in those eyes.

Shasta

Now we hear the shooter was out of work, on unemployment, had an apartment, had a new looking car, had 4 weapons recently bought, bought 4000 or more rounds of ammo off the net, bought smoke canisters, bought vest, bought tactical gear and clothing, made bombs and booby trapped the apartment.

First report was this guy was in the movie theatre, went and opened a side door, went out the front, geared up and came back in, tossed the smoke canister as the show was in a scene of gun fire, started to shoot from the screen up front.

He obviously wasn't afraid or in his right mind to even consider a movie goer could be armed with CCW and respond back. This whole thing is so whacked out that it makes no sense other than a made to happen for tv news.

Reports now say he may have had someone open that side door for him.

This is all to familar as when the kennedys were taken out. We began to almost see the real world at work, the world we look past as it operates around the globe. Like the magician, smoke and mirrors, watch over there and not here.

Local reports indicate that the shooter bought a ticket, entered the theater, exited through a side door, which he propped open, retrieved his gear from his car that was parked behind the theater, returned through the propped open door, and began his rampage.  Local merchants have a record of the firearms sales, which were in compliance with regulations.  The body armor isn't difficult to obtain.  I don't know about the tear gas grenades.

Shasta

@SkyOtter

No, I just saw this reference to 9gag on another forum and quoted it.

@Gigas

Thanks and here's a few links to support the "theory".

http://tinyurl.com/c6tcmxg

http://tinyurl.com/cyeqmqs

http://tinyurl.com/c7eplpp

http://tinyurl.com/cze5bra

Holmes was purportedly involved in some kind of neurological experimentation involving psychoactive "drugs"(?) in university recently?

Has the real MKUltra stooge just stood-up?


When even seasoned investigators are already saying none of this adds up, it likely doesn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtjbyjsHMM

FASCINATING video here!  It looks like you were right about people waking up, Amaterasu!  A woman here is describing elements of the photo of James Holmes and Jared Loughner as being largely identical, and I can see it, too.  Have we been given doctored mug shots?

A witness to the after math told  John B Wells last night on C2C that the feds arrived about an hour after the event and took over. He estimated about 100 agents showed up in blacked out impalas and broadcasted on speakers they were taking over.

A girl who lived in the apt below the suspected shooter called in also and reported she was in her apt and the shooter lived above her and loud music was playing from his apt and she walked up stairs and pounded on his door to tell him to turn it down but no answer. She said she thought the door was open and she could enter but thankfully did not.

This is a false flag story and this guy is a patsy like oswald, sirhan sirhan, timothy Mcveigh, ted kasinsky, Breveiks from norway and many many others we have seen and heard in news stories of terror and mayhem.

How did this unemployed guy have enough cash to pay rent, a car payment and buy guns and ammo with fully outfitted swat gear. It was reported he was so swat dressed out they actually misstook him for one of them before they got him.

Quote from: petrus4 on July 22, 2012, 08:45:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtjbyjsHMM

FASCINATING video here!  It looks like you were right about people waking up, Amaterasu!  A woman here is describing elements of the photo of James Holmes and Jared Loughner as being largely identical, and I can see it, too.  Have we been given doctored mug shots?

The occult matrix creates duplicates when entertaining itself. Were not fighting flesh and blood but spirits of wickeness in high places. Thats a bible quote from ephesians 6-12


For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

the bold is from me..but i think it says something even though it was 6 yrs ago
temporal illusions..?  wow



A video of Colorado shooting suspect James Holmes, shot when he was 18, shows the slightly awkward teen speaking to a room full of people at a science camp.

The video, obtained by ABC News, shows Holmes at Miramar College in San Diego ... discussing "temporal illusions." Holmes was introduced at the seminar like this ... "His goals are to become a researcher and to make scientific discoveries. In personal life, he enjoys playing soccer and strategy games and his dream is to own a slurpee machine."

vid at link
http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/22/colorado-shooting-james-holmes-video-high-school/

Very interesting! I just received this a little while ago. No way to know yet what is right, but it is nice to know I am not the only one that suspects this possibly is simply "Fast and furious #2". Some of you seem to be wondering about this too, so, I will post a link, and the written words here, for just FYI, and general good.

Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

(NaturalNews) James Holmes, the Aurora, Colorado shooter who reportedly opened fire at a Batman movie premiere, was a medical student at the University of Colorado, pursuing a PhD in neuroscience, reports ABC News. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooting-colorado-movie-theater-14-peop...)

As part of the attack, Holmes painted his hair red and referred to himself as "The Joker," one of the arch enemies in the DC Comics-inspired Batman movie series. (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-the...)

According to news reports, this sudden violent rampage was completely out of character for James Holmes, who was described as "shy."

The New York Times is now reporting:
Billy Kromka, a pre-med student at the University of Colorado, Boulder, worked with Mr. Holmes for three months last summer as a research assistant in a lab of at the Anschutz Medical Campus. Mr. Kromka said he was surprised to learn Mr. Holmes was the shooting suspect. "It was just shocking, because there was no way I thought he could have the capacity to do commit an atrocity like this," he said. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/colorado-mall-shooting.html?page...)

"He spent much of his time immersed in the computer, often participating in role-playing online games..."

There is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience research and ended up becoming involved at a depth he never anticipated. His actions clearly show a strange detachment from reality, indicating he was not in his right mind. That can only typically be accomplished through drugs, hypnosis or trauma (and sometimes all three).

His behavior doesn't add up

His behavior already reveals stark inconsistencies that question the mainstream explanation of events. For example, he opened fire on innocent people but then calmly surrendered to police without resistance. This is not consistent with the idea of "killing everyone."

Furthermore, he then admitted to police that his apartment was booby-trapped with explosives. If you were really an evil-minded Joker trying to kill people (including cops), why would you warn them about the booby trap in advance? It doesn't add up.

"Holmes was taken into custody shortly after the shooting, police said, adding he didn't resist when he was arrested," reports a local CBS news affiliate (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-the...).

"After his arrest, Holmes told police about 'possible explosives in his residence,' Oates said. When police searched his apartment, they discovered it was booby-trapped and evacuated surrounding buildings, police said. Oates said bomb technicians are determining how to disarm flammable or explosive material in the third-floor apartment. He said police could be there some time."

None of this checks out. If you're a killer bent on causing mayhem, why tell the police about your surprise bomb waiting for them back at your apartment?

Holmes was clearly provided with exotic gear (and bomb-making skills)

Continuing from CBS:

"He said pictures from inside the apartment are fairly disturbing and the devices look to be sophisticated, adding the booby-traps were 'something I've never seen.' One rifle, two handguns, a knife, a bullet proof vest, a ballistic helmet, a gas device, a gas mask, military SWAT clothing and unidentified explosives were also found in Holmes' car, a law enforcement source told CBS News. Oates said Holmes wore a gas mask, a ballistic helmet and vest as well as leg, groin and throat protectors during the shooting."

In other words, this guy was equipped with exotic gear by someone with connections to military equipment. SWAT clothing, explosives, complex booby-traps... c'mon, this isn't a "lone gunman." This is somebody who was selected for a mission, given equipment to carry it out, then somehow brainwashed into getting it done.

"Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes' apartment is booby-trapped with a 'sophisticated' maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it," reports Yahoo News (http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/suspect-neuroscience-phd-stu...).

UPDATE: (This section added to the story Saturday at 2:30 pm central, July 21, 2012). It is now being reported that exotic, advanced booby-traps have been disarmed at the apartment of James Holmes. The Denver affiliate of CBS News is now reporting: (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/07/21/officials-expect-explosions-as-...)

Officials say they have removed all major threats at the booby-trapped apartment of the Aurora movie theater shooting suspect on Saturday. They have used a robot to go inside James Holmes' apartment. ...They were able to disable a trip wire that was set to go off when the apartment door was opened. "This is some serious stuff that our team is dealing with..."

Shortly before noon crews were successful performing a controlled detonation... More controlled detonations were possible.

...there were multiple trip wires throughout the apartment. Investigators have also seen what appear to be mortars planted in the apartment -- sort of the kind of mortars that might be seen in a commercial fireworks show. Up to a half dozen of them are scattered around.

...they have seen a number of inflated balloons in the apartment... with many appearing to be filled with a powder. Also linked together are bottles of liquid. ...a strong smell of gasoline emanating from the apartment.

...several boxes on top of the refrigerator and there are lights flashing on the boxes.

...30 aerial shells (fireworks) commercially legally available for purchase. ...the suspect may have filled them with smokeless powder. ...entering the apartment would have caused a trip wire to trigger one liquid container to pour/mix with another. When the two mix together, they set off the main charge of the device which may be additional flammable liquids.

...an enormously dangerous mission. About 100 personnel are on scene.

And the BBC is now reporting: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18937726)

Technicians made a first attempt on Friday to disarm the traps, believed to include explosives, but withdrew when it became clear the property was too dangerous to enter. Sgt Carlson said the device was set up to detonate when the first person entered the flat. "We've defeated first threat. It was set up to kill, and that could have been police officers or anything," she said.

"In addition to the shells found in the apartment, jars of a kind of accelerant were also found inside the dwelling, said Aurora Police Sgt. Cassidee Carlson." (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044446430457754103267932...) "Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates expressed frustration on Friday with the web of wires and devices Mr. Holmes had connected inside his apartment, which were hindering the investigation into the shooting. ...It was unlike anything he had seen before."

FBI has a track record of staging similar assaults, then stopping them at the last minute

This is not your run-of-the-mill crime of passion. It was a carefully planned, heavily funded and technically advanced attack. Who might be behind all this? The FBI, of course, which has a long history of setting up and staging similar attacks, then stopping them right before they happen. See four documented stories on these facts:

http://www.naturalnews.com/035849_domestic_terror_plots_FBI.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/034325_FBI_entrapment_terror_plots.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033751_FBI_terrorism.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/035757_FBI_terror_plots_false_flag.html

As you soak all this in, remember that the FBI had admitted to setting up terror plots, providing the weapons and gear, staging the location of the bombings and even driving the vehicles to pull it off! This is not a conspiracy theory, it's been admitted by the FBI right out in the open. Even the New York Times openly reports all this in stories like this one:

NYT: Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-help...)

THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years -- or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts. But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. ...the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of "inert material," harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving...

Mystery man Holmes has no background

On top of all this, Holmes apparently has no background. "He's not on anybody's radar screen -- nothing," said a peace officer in a NYT article. "This guy is somewhat of an enigma. Nobody knows anything about him." (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/colorado-mall-shooting.html)

Mr. Holmes's only criminal history is a traffic summons, the authorities said. He earned a bachelor's degree with honors in neuroscience in 2010 from the University of California, Riverside, and was a graduate student in neurosciences at the University of Colorado at Denver's Anschutz Medical Campus... He was currently collecting unemployment...

Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?

A decent AR-15 rifle costs $1,000 or more all by itself. The shotgun and handgun might run another $800 total. Spare mags, sights, slings, and so on will run you at least another $1,000 across three firearms. The bullet-proof vest is easily another $800, and the cost of the bomb-making gear is anybody's guess. With all the specialty body gear, ammunition, booby-trap devices and more, I'm guessing this is at least $20,000 in weapons and tactical gear, much of which is very difficult for civilians to get in the first place.

The mere manufacture of an explosive booby-trap device is, all by itself, a felony crime by the way. And remember: "Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said Holmes' apartment is booby-trapped with a 'sophisticated' maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it," reported Yahoo News (http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/suspect-neuroscience-phd-stu...).

Question: Where does an unemployed, introverted medical school student get the training to deploy sophisticated booby traps, tactical body armor, weapons systems and more? Certainly not in graduate school!

All this leads to an obvious third party influence over all this. Someone else taught this guy these skills and funded the acquisition of the equipment.

Update: An article posted on Sunday by the Daily Mail reveals Holmes had a "'mind-boggling' stash of ammunition" and "three types of explosives were found - jars filled with accelerates, chemicals that would explode when mixed together and more than 30 improvised grenades." This further adds to the financial cost tally of what it took to put all this together. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177156/James-Holmes-Dark-Kni...)

The Wall Street Journal is also now reporting: "the suspect bought four guns over the past 60 days, and over the Internet bought 3,000 rounds for an assault rifle, 3,000 rounds for Glock handguns and about 300 shotgun rounds. The suspect also had a 100-round drum-style magazine for the assault rifle that would have allowed him to fire 50 to 60 rounds a minute." (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044446430457754103267932...)

Note: Some readers have questioned the $20,000 figure estimated here, saying this gear could have been acquired for only $10,000 or so. I doubt that, as all the extras that you need to effectively run these guns cost a lot of money: training courses, spare magazines, etc. Just a decent AR-15 battle sight (a holographic red dot sight) can run $1,000 - $2,000. Search "ACOG" if you don't believe me. It is also reported that Holmes bought 6,000 rounds of ammo, which definitely isn't cheap either, especially given that we now know half of those rounds were rifle rounds. It's clear this guy was spending big bucks. Whether it's $10k or $20k isn't really that much of a point.

Staged just in time for a vote on the UN small arms treaty?

More and more, this shooting is looking like a deliberate plot staged by the government itself much like Operation Fast and Furious pulled off by the ATF (http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_illegal_firearms.html) which helped smuggle tens of thousands of guns into Mexico for the purpose of causing "gun violence" in the USA, then blaming the Second Amendment for it.

All this looks like James Holmes completed a "mission" and then calmly ended that mission by surrendering to police and admitting everything. The mission, as we are now learning, was to cause as much terror and mayhem as possible, then to have that multiplied by the national media at exactly the right time leading up the UN vote next week on a global small arms treaty that could result in gun confiscation across America. (http://lewrockwell.com/eddlem/eddlem61.1.html)

Even Forbes.com wrote about this quite extensively, warning readers about the coming gun confiscation effort related to the UN treaty. The story was authored by Larry Bell (http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should...) and says the UN treaty could "override our national sovereignty, and in the process, provide license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights."

In other words, this has all the signs of Fast & Furious, Episode II. I wouldn't be surprised to discover someone in Washington was behind it all. After all, there's no quicker way to disarm a nation and take total control over the population than to stage violence, blame it on firearms, then call for leaders to "do something!" Such calls inevitably end up resulting in gun confiscation, and it's never too long after that before government genocide really kicks in like we saw with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and other tyrants.

Governments routinely murder millions

Here's a short list of government mass murder carried out throughout history, almost always immediately following the disarmament of the public (and usually involving staged false flag events to justify the disarmament):

50+ million dead: Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
12+ million dead: Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) - concentration camps, civilian deaths and dead Russian POWs
8+ million dead: Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908)
6+ million dead: Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39)
5+ million dead: Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44)
2+ million dead: Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-22)
1.7 million dead: Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79)
1.6 million dead: Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
1.5 million dead: Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78)
1 million dead: Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970)
900,000 dead: Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982)
800,000 dead: Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994)
See more at:
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

Death by government:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.CHAP1.HTM
http://www.infowars.com/democide-government-killed-over-260-million-i...

A "monopoly of force" in government is far more dangerous than a crazed lone shooter

So yes, James Holmes and other crazed shooters kill a number of people each year in random acts of violence. It's horrifying and wrong, but it's nothing compared to the millions of lives that governments tend to destroy when they gain total power over the populace.

The most dangerous thing in the world, it turns out, is not a crazy person with a rifle; it's a government with a "monopoly of force" over the entire population. And that's exactly what the UN spells out as its goal for the world: Stripping all power from individual citizens and handing "monopolies of force" to the governments of the world, shoring up their positions as the only "legitimate" power on the planet.

See this document entitled, "Geneva Centre for the Democratic Control of Armed Forces (DCAF)" policy paper No. 24:
http://www.naturalnews.com/files/Revisiting-the-State-Monopoly-on-the...

As this document reveals, a table entitled "Governance solutions for reasserting the state monopoly on the use of force" lists the options available to governments to re-establish "monopolies of force" against their own people:

• (Re-)establish state monopoly
- Ownership of WMDs
- Safety Inspectorates

• Prohibit business activity
- Justice and Execution
- Deadly Force?

• Regulate/limit activities
- Private defense/security services
- Control of financial transfers
- Export controls
- Transport and infrastructure safety
- Environmental impact

Interestingly, that document also describes "terrorism" in a way that perfectly matches the Aurora, Colorado "Batman" movie theater shooter:

Terrorists aim to spread panic and fear in societies in order to achieve political goals, be they based on left- or right-wing, social-revolutionary, nationalistic or religious ideologies. They are organized in a clandestine way, most often in small groups and cells... Typical tactical means include kidnapping, hostage-taking, sabotage, murder, suicide attacks, vehicle bombs and improvised explosive devices.

A global monopoly of force

This document is a goldmine of information about the globalist agenda to disarm and enslave the population. Check out page 28, which reads:

The legitimate monopoly of force should not be limited to the nation-state but should be based on the local, national, regional and the global levels.

Global Security Governance and the Monopoly of Force

At the global level no monopoly of violence exists. The UN Security Council already has a monopoly power to authorize the use of force at the global level, although the UN was never given the necessary means to exercise this authority, such as the capacity to implement sanctions, a police force and armed forces...

This deficiency in global governance acts as a bottleneck and a barrier to the creation of the democratically legitimized monopoly of violence that is globally required.

This story gets deep, doesn't it? Watch for more analysis here at NaturalNews.com, where we still fight for liberty and justice in a world that's increasingly becoming enslaved.

Video added: Answers to many questions raised by readers of this story

View it on YouTube at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUCsNzzwCeY

Quote from: rdunk on July 23, 2012, 05:40:56 AM

Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?

A decent AR-15 rifle costs $1,000 or more all by itself. The shotgun and handgun might run another $800 total. Spare mags, sights, slings, and so on will run you at least another $1,000 across three firearms. The bullet-proof vest is easily another $800, and the cost of the bomb-making gear is anybody's guess. With all the specialty body gear, ammunition, booby-trap devices and more, I'm guessing this is at least $20,000 in weapons and tactical gear, much of which is very difficult for civilians to get in the first place.

Yes, how did he manage this?

Bingo!

Same financiers found everywhere!

And this just in for those of you who follow the black and white
floor plan. Madonna brings AK47 on stage despite warnings.

The Elite terrorist cabal.

Quote
Madonna ignored pleas to tone down her MDNA show at a concert in Scotland on Saturday and brandished a machine gun and pistol onstage.
Police officials advised the pop superstar not to include images of firearms and weapons themselves during the Murrayfield Stadium gig in Edinburgh in the wake of the Colorado cinema massacre on Friday.

But she defied the local authorities and hit the stage with pistols and an AK47 assault rifle -- as she has at all the shows on her MDNA tour
http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=745062

The cabal is trying to create momentum for the UN gun BS passage. If they repeat the BS enough, sheeple will follow.

Gun control would have done nothing to prevent what happened at Century 16.  I joined the NRA yesterday.

Shasta

Who sold madonna guns, shes nuts!
Although she is a fan of the kaballah, and needs to protect herself from the hordes of muslim fans she has...LOL!
Im not giving up any guns to anyone without a battle.

Maybe this will be the turning point for America.

Or we will have another protracted civil war...lets hope not!
Le

Here's something to ponder.

When columbine occured, it was to well planned and the bombs placed were reported by witness to be dragged in by unknowns.

When the arizona shooter shot the judge and gabby giffords, he had excellent markmenship and made a bizzare video of himself dressed in a black garbage bag with weird mock imagery.

When the norway shooter gunned down kids, witness reported more than one shooter.

When batman killer showed up on stage, witness say their was someone else who opened a side door where a fully tactical dressed individual entered.

Turned this over in your minds.

Clearly false flags, all of them, and too well orchestrated to not be planned with experienced methods.
Its getting hot in here, we need to be very vigilant, and dont act like the zombies that make up 95 percent of our populace.

Put down the phones people, and watch whats happening around you!

Everywhere brainwashed people are carrying out acts of stupidity, not just violence...ten to one.

If we wait for the s to h the f, its too late...the minds of the sheeple are being activated and their programming is coming online.

Dont be a sheep, be aware!
Dont go where just any nutcase can corner you, use the drive throughs, grow your own food, whatever you can to place a layer in between you and the planned destruction of society as we know it.

Have a brain and dont be afraid to use it, if you are where the nuts are, youll be a victim of their nuttyness!

No wonder people carry in walmart...I do!

Le

Witness from the batman showing talks to news channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJJjtxrzpVA

Quote"As I was sitting down to get my seat, I noticed that a person came up to the front row, the front right, sat down, and as credits were going, it looked like he got a phone call. He went out toward the emergency exit doorway, which I thought was unusual to take a phone call. And it seemed like he probably pried it open, or probably did not let it latch all the way. As soon as the movie started, somebody came in, all black, gas mask, armor, and threw a gas can into the audience, and it went off, and then there were gunshots that took place."

More indepth witness account


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAU

Another witness thinks several players involved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoPqz4bQqJY

I just saw some photos of James Holmes from his first court appearance.  He looked drugged and completely out of it, as though he hardly knew what was happening.

I do not believe for one moment that he is guilty, personally.  I think he's a patsy; and I also don't think they will ever get the person who really did it, because judging by what I've seen online already, a lot of people think it was him.

I also just seen a video of his court apperance and he is definitely medicated...anyone else watching video, pay particular attention to his eyes. He probably couldn't have even spoke his name he was so out of it. He was struggling just to sit up in his chair.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/23/colorado-theatre-shooting-suspect-court.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/23/colorado-theatre-shooting-suspect-court.html)

QuoteAfter the massacre Holmes calmly told detectives he had taken 100mg of the prescription painkiller Vicodin, and identified himself as "The Joker". The same drug was found in the system of actor Heath Ledger when he died of an accidental overdose of prescription drugs in 2008.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9419299/Batman-Colorado-shooting-James-Holmes-fixated-by-altered-states-of-mind.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9419299/Batman-Colorado-shooting-James-Holmes-fixated-by-altered-states-of-mind.html)

If he had an accomplice I would bet he was dressed somewhat like Batman. I can't se a motive for the "Joker" if there was no Batman. Was that perhaps who he was trying to kill? Why did he make the mistake of dying his hair orange when the joker had green hair? So many questions I doubt we'll ever know the answers to. My bet is this case is processed very quickly.

I seen somewhere in an article (forgot to save it) that it was suggested if others in the theatre had guns this could have been prevented. I snickered at the author thinking to myself "I suppose if we ALL had machineguns and full body armor we might be safe enough to step out of our homes."  ::)

Well, if We were all presumed to be armed, this would be a very different - and much more polite - society.

There was a study of crime that took cities at the time of the "wild west," when everyOne in the west was presumed armed, even the women, and compared cities of equivalent population and industry, east and west.  (Not so) surprisingly, the cities in the west all had not just statistically significant, but radically lower crime rates.

I recommend reading some of L. Neal Smith's non-Star Wars books.  The Probability Broach was My fav.  It presumes another time line where the Jeffersonians won over the Hamiltonians and shows a world where everyOne is armed - as well as a government that hardly ever meets, let alone intrudes the way Our present government does.

Things are MUCH more free for Human Beings...and People are exceedingly polite.  So...  Roll Yer eyes, but if We were all presumed to be armed, there would be a lot less crime and rudeness.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 06:14:30 AM
Well, if We were all presumed to be armed, this would be a very different - and much more polite - society.

Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.
-- Miyamoto Musashi

This is at the very core of the issue, Amaterasu.  The reason why the public themselves do not want to be armed; why they themselves demand TSA checkpoints everywhere, is because 8 out of 10 Americans in particular, are afflicted with a degree of cowardice, such that they barely deserve to be alive. 

Henry Kissinger was correct when he referred to the public as worthless eaters; but their worthlessness does not come from anything inherent.  Quite the contrary, it comes from a choice which is made in complete freedom, which actually runs counter to the genuine worth of humanity.

I will admit that I have allowed myself to be similarly afflicted for most of my own life.  The one distinction that I allow myself, is the realisation that at least I am aware of my dishonour, and my shame.  Most of the rest of them are not, and they even think that living in such a state of fear is somehow the correct and appropriate order of things.

And I would contend that They are only "worthless eaters" because They have been taught to be, They have been given no options, no alternate ways to see things, no clues to look outside the narrow path They are shown.

Information will free Us.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 11:48:11 AM
And I would contend that They are only "worthless eaters" because They have been taught to be, They have been given no options, no alternate ways to see things, no clues to look outside the narrow path They are shown.

Information will free Us.

I am not disagreeing with you, here.  Like I said, the worthless eater behaviour pattern is a choice.  With greater knowledge, better options do become available.

Yes.  This is why My motto is "Information will free Us."  [smile]

I think the state of mind of most Americans and their offspring shows us why 95 percent shouldnt be armed. What is the biggest issue facing us is apathy, and an inability to give a sh!t about what our actions are doing to others.

If the youth of today put their phones down for a second and looked around, theyd have a coronary from all the physical things which surround them, and that would go against what TV and the churches have taught them...to be a follower.

This will be a statue found millenia from now, and they who find it will wonder...what were they doing in this case? It must have been amazing to walk along and worship a deity in their hands!


(http://blog.timesunion.com/loricullen/files/2010/08/kid-texting.jpg)
And you want these idiots to have guns? Theres the problem in a nutshell.

The PTB have created a world of shallow empty minded zombies which are exactly what they want, who shuffle from store to store and feed the machine with their dollars. All the while the corporations are making products that last less and less time, so the madness continues.

Humanity has become a bunch of materialistic sheep on a mission to have more babies and more toys than the next guy, and I certainly dont want any of these mindless zombies having a way to shoot me when they see Im doing better than they are.

Also, thanks to big pharma, the train rolls on.

I can see where Kissinger was coming from, but think someone in his position couldnt share those thoughts, as most folks back then werent ready for a taste of reality yet.

And above all, Amaterasu is right...we dont have to become the worthless eater, we have a choice to save our minds and become a special part of society who regardless of monetary gains or losses makes a difference with every move they make, or every word they type, or just every gesture of kindness they act out.

So many here dont see Amy's ideas coming to fruition anytime soon, but as for me, I feel even if it seems impossible, if we continue to think it is, how will we ever make strides towards making it possible?

Always have hope, right Amy!

Apathy. The number one enemy of mankind.

Greed and inaction to change...feeding that materialistic mindset.

Gullibility...creating the sheep zombies we have a world full of without them even realizing it.

Add in guns, and well, you get the picture.

Russian Roulette with a full chamber!

Thoughts for the helpless victims of yet another false flag CIA operation?

Every minute. :'(

Littleenki

Quote from: Littleenki on July 24, 2012, 04:10:58 PM
I think the state of mind of most Americans and their offspring shows us why 95 percent shouldnt be armed. What is the biggest issue facing us is apathy, and an inability to give a sh!t about what our actions are doing to others.

If We armed everyOne...  Don't You think the youth would have a more polite attitude?  I disagree completely.  I think We ALL should be armed.  The reasoning You offer is exactly what They use to disarm Us...

QuoteIf the youth of today put their phones down for a second and looked around, theyd have a coronary from all the physical things which surround them, and that would go against what TV and the churches have taught them...to be a follower.

And maybe They'd learn to shoot Their weapon...  [grin]

QuoteThis will be a statue found millenia from now, and they who find it will wonder...what were they doing in this case? It must have been amazing to walk along and worship a deity in their hands!

And you want these idiots to have guns? Theres the problem in a nutshell.

Yes, I want Them to have guns.  But NOT just Them - EVERYONE.  Then They will pay more attention to Their own behavior.

QuoteThe PTB have created a world of shallow empty minded zombies which are exactly what they want, who shuffle from store to store and feed the machine with their dollars. All the while the corporations are making products that last less and less time, so the madness continues.

And an armed populace would wake 'em right up, I tell You what!

QuoteHumanity has become a bunch of materialistic sheep on a mission to have more babies and more toys than the next guy, and I certainly dont want any of these mindless zombies having a way to shoot me when they see Im doing better than they are.

Heh.  And They would know You could shoot Them right back - and are probably a much better shot.  They would be VERY polite.

QuoteAlso, thanks to big pharma, the train rolls on.

Maybe having a way to defend Themselves...along with the polite behavior with peers...They will feel better about Themselves and not think They NEED the creppola They're on...

QuoteI can see where Kissinger was coming from, but think someone in his position couldnt share those thoughts, as most folks back then werent ready for a taste of reality yet.

And above all, Amaterasu is right...we dont have to become the worthless eater, we have a choice to save our minds and become a special part of society who regardless of monetary gains or losses makes a difference with every move they make, or every word they type, or just every gesture of kindness they act out.

As long as We are kept powerless, that is what We will be.  Arming everyOne will shake Them out of the stupor.

QuoteSo many here dont see Amy's ideas coming to fruition anytime soon, but as for me, I feel even if it seems impossible, if we continue to think it is, how will we ever make strides towards making it possible?

Always have hope, right Amy!

[smile]  Indeed.  Even if I fully disagree with You on the arming of the youth - along with everyOne else.

QuoteApathy. The number one enemy of mankind.

Apathy is an escape taken when One feels powerless.  Give Us all the power of being armed and apathy will dissipate.

QuoteGreed and inaction to change...feeding that materialistic mindset.

Remove the need for money - and arm everyOne such that We presume everyOne is armed...  We will be a very peaceful, empowered, happy society.

QuoteGullibility...creating the sheep zombies we have a world full of without them even realizing it.

By stripping any sense of power...

QuoteAdd in guns, and well, you get the picture.

I do.  [smile]

QuoteRussian Roulette with a full chamber!

Nope.  Individuals not shrinking away apathetically in Their powerlessness.  Polite Individuals...  Aware Individuals...

Ok, Amy,Im headed for the gun shop now..LOL!
Le:)

Be hot on Your heals if I had any money.  [smile]

By this shooter photo it looks as though our killer was Reptilian controlled. Check those eyes. My sister caught this. I tell the family what to look for to see the other world at work and play here in the prison system.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 05:40:47 PM
Be hot on Your heals if I had any money.  [smile]

Dont worry I cant shoot them all at once!:D
Le

Another high weirdness anomaly. The mouth piece for the lawyered up Holmes family has reptilian characteristic of licking its lips and puckering its mouth from excitement of the game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9IX0ApBOhc

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 04:38:47 PM
If We armed everyOne...  Don't You think the youth would have a more polite attitude?  I disagree completely.  I think We ALL should be armed.  The reasoning You offer is exactly what They use to disarm Us...

And maybe They'd learn to shoot Their weapon...  [grin]

Yes, I want Them to have guns.  But NOT just Them - EVERYONE.  Then They will pay more attention to Their own behavior.

And an armed populace would wake 'em right up, I tell You what!

Heh.  And They would know You could shoot Them right back - and are probably a much better shot.  They would be VERY polite.

Maybe having a way to defend Themselves...along with the polite behavior with peers...They will feel better about Themselves and not think They NEED the creppola They're on...

As long as We are kept powerless, that is what We will be.  Arming everyOne will shake Them out of the stupor.

[smile]  Indeed.  Even if I fully disagree with You on the arming of the youth - along with everyOne else.

Apathy is an escape taken when One feels powerless.  Give Us all the power of being armed and apathy will dissipate.

Remove the need for money - and arm everyOne such that We presume everyOne is armed...  We will be a very peaceful, empowered, happy society.

By stripping any sense of power...

I do.  [smile]

Nope.  Individuals not shrinking away apathetically in Their powerlessness.  Polite Individuals...  Aware Individuals...

This has got to be the most backwards thinking I have ever seen. You want every retard, crack baby, and snivelling spoiled teen to have a weapon to play GOD? Thats all a weapon does in the hands of these people. Not for legitimate defense against emminent death. It is a control/compliance tool to be waved around to assert your will onto another being. If a disgruntled teen whipped out a gun and told you to kiss the ground chances are your going to do it. If they had to confront you 1 on 1 without weapons, chances are they would get slapped around pretty bad. The problem is not the GUNS it is the PEOPLE with them. Everyone having a gun only leads to an arms race, get a better gun, longer range, body armor...etc. take all that away so they are just a human and their power is gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFriRcIwqNU

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 24, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
This has got to be the most backwards thinking I have ever seen. You want every retard, crack baby, and snivelling spoiled teen to have a weapon to play GOD?

Yes, actually, I do.

I'm truthfully fed up with the relentless contemporary craving for safety.  Apart from anything else, we have incidents occurring every day which prove that it simply does not work.  If the cowards, the apologists, and the government quislings were right about gun control being effective, and how we supposedly need the TSA at literally every venue outside our own house, then would we not have seen a vast improvement already, from the TSA's presence in airports, and the myriad fascist laws that have been passed in the last decade?

The idea of Somalia being a role model for the rest of the planet, is one which has my full support, quite seriously; because at least there, if someone was going to try and kill me, I would not be legally prevented from defending myself.  I also well know, that it is the police and government who are, in reality, a far greater threat to my safety, than any common criminal.

If you want to be afraid, then at least get your priorities straight, over the people who you are most justified, in being afraid of.

Quote from: petrus4 on July 25, 2012, 12:26:33 AM
Yes, actually, I do.

I'm truthfully fed up with the relentless contemporary craving for safety.  Apart from anything else, we have incidents occurring every day which prove that it simply does not work.  If the cowards, the apologists, and the government quislings were right about gun control being effective, and how we supposedly need the TSA at literally every venue outside our own house, then would we not have seen a vast improvement already, from the TSA's presence in airports, and the myriad fascist laws that have been passed in the last decade?

The idea of Somalia being a role model for the rest of the planet, is one which has my full support, quite seriously; because at least there, if someone was going to try and kill me, I would not be legally prevented from defending myself.  I also well know, that it is the police and government who are, in reality, a far greater threat to my safety, than any common criminal.

If you want to be afraid, then at least get your priorities straight, over the people who you are most justified, in being afraid of.

Hmmm perhaps they should hand out some free bath salts with every firearm purchase as well.  :P

Society has not evolved past the wild west with the exceptions of technological gadgets. There seems to be this global diminishing of respect among more and more people. I have seen some kids that seem to literally have no empathy for anything. These people do not need to be enabled to have firearms. This only enforces the need to have to carry the BIGGER STICK. You seem to suggest that the guns can take care of the problem. Can an alcoholic drink their way out of their problem? Doesn't matter how much alcohol the problem persists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 24, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
This has got to be the most backwards thinking I have ever seen. You want every retard, crack baby, and snivelling spoiled teen to have a weapon to play GOD? Thats all a weapon does in the hands of these people. Not for legitimate defense against emminent death. It is a control/compliance tool to be waved around to assert your will onto another being. If a disgruntled teen whipped out a gun and told you to kiss the ground chances are your going to do it. If they had to confront you 1 on 1 without weapons, chances are they would get slapped around pretty bad. The problem is not the GUNS it is the PEOPLE with them. Everyone having a gun only leads to an arms race, get a better gun, longer range, body armor...etc. take all that away so they are just a human and their power is gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFriRcIwqNU

Well, the vid is lost on Me.  You don't seem to grasp what presuming EVERYONE is armed will do.  If They think They're the only Ones with guns, yeah.  Problem.  If They think EVERYONE is armed...that changes things completely.  The evidence is clear.  Back in the "wild west" there was a 30% or greater lower crime rate in equivalent areas than in eastern towns where most citizens were presumed to be unarmed.  In the "wild west," everyOne was presumed to be.

If a disgruntled teen whipped out a gun and told you to kiss the ground chances are your going to pull Your own weapon.  And Others around You will do the same.  That teen is NOT going to risk that.

Strange, Looking at James Holmes mug shots, I see no eye lashes. His eye lids are out of place like they are mechanical robot lids.

Jared Lee Loughner the arizona shooter has no eye lashes either and he also has that robot eyelid look.

Thinking further, I remember that look. Yul Brynner had it in west world.

He was a robot cowboy turned killer in that movie.

Well, some here seem to disagree on gun laws and who should and shouldnt own guns.

Really, there are a number(very high) of people who shouldnt be allowed around guns of any kind, and there are some who shouldnt even be allowed to hold sharp objects.

As far as how to solve the issue of the wrong people having guns, we could implement a psychiatric exam for everyone buying a gun from here on out, but that wouldnt stop all the nuts and cranks who own them already. Mental acuity isnt necessary for the gun ownership!

It should be.

I feel best having a CWP, and noone else knowing Im carrying, and when the time comes, well, the person who asks for it will get it.

I meet countless folks every day who could never control themselves with a firearm, and frankly I wouldnt trust them with one either.

Like a wise poster here pointed out, its not the guns, its the shooter which is the problem, and as long as anyone else can buy and carry one, so will I.

Teenagers with guns? Good Lord! They cant even handle a breakup with a boyfriend or girlfriend without a hormonal avalanche, how should they be allowed to have a deadly firearm at their disposal, and the way Ive seen some adults act after emotional events, its even less reason to allow anyone to carry.

In the old west, people had respect for their peers, today it's nearly nonexistent, clearly indicated by the lack of consideration for fellow humans so many people display today.

I could type all night on this one, but here it is in a nutshell....

If everyone has a gun, the population will thin quick, and millions will be killed in the first few years, and then bring in the lawyers and youve created the perfect storm of murder with a black hole sucking in all the common sense.

Going to bed now, with a 380 under pillow!:D

Cheers!
Littleenki

My nutshell:
1.  I'm a nurse, with a background in behavioral health.
2.  I belong to the NRA.
3.  The shooter, to me, appears psychotic.

Respectfully,

Shasta

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 25, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
The evidence is clear.  Back in the "wild west" there was a 30% or greater lower crime rate in equivalent areas than in eastern towns where most citizens were presumed to be unarmed.  In the "wild west," everyOne was presumed to be.

Well no worries... the situation is under control... sorta

Record gun sales 2011 (https://www.google.com/search?q=record+gun+sales+2012&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=5zd&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=record+gun+sales+2011&oq=record+gun+sales+2011&gs_l=serp.12..0j0i8i30.102880.102880.0.103870.1.1.0.0.0.0.138.138.0j1.1.0...0.0...1c.HCoW2NV83VQ&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=741186867860cab4&biw=1255&bih=526)

Record gun sales 2012 (https://www.google.com/search?q=record+gun+sales+2012&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

(http://www.aspirekc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/biggun_thumb.jpg)

But now I am wondering just who it was that took out the police helicopter here a few years ago     :o   ::)

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 25, 2012, 01:12:03 AM
You seem to suggest that the guns can take care of the problem.

No.  I'm suggesting, that when a particular demographic of the population, stops trying to dictate what is appropriate for everyone else, (including whether or not they have guns) then that will take care of the problem.

"But we can't do that!  They'll shoot each other!  A lot of people will die!"

Take a good look around.  What you're afraid of is already happening.  If we have to have a choice between a fascist state where people are killing each other, or an anarchic society where people are killing each other, my vote is always going to be for the latter, for two reasons.

a}  Although I'm going to die at some point anyway, (we all are) in an anarchic society, where I'm actually allowed to be armed, I potentially have a lot more control over how and when, than in a scenario where the cops have a monopoly on violence, and someone can break into my house and kill me without me being able to defend myself, and where if the cops show up, they're likely to be an even greater danger to me than the problem I called them to solve.

The main reason why people want the government to defend and protect them from everything, is because there is an overwhelming fear of death, and an implicit, underlying assumption that if the government will just protect them enough, eventually all potential causes of death will be removed. 

The only problem with this idea, (apart from the fact that it is completely unacknowledged and unconscious) is the fact that it won't work.  We aren't like Tolkien's Elves, where we can live forever if we aren't killed by something external.  We die of natural causes, even if we are completely safe, for our entirely lives anywayz.

b}  Most of the factors which cause people to be violent in the first place, stem from either inequality, or a lack of control over the direction of their own lives.  Get rid of government continually telling us what we can and can't do, and people will be able to start making that decision for themselves.  They will then become a lot happier, and I can promise you that you would see violence radically DECREASE as a result.  People like freedom; they've just been brainwashed in contemporary terms, to think it's a bad thing; and then they don't understand why they are so angry and miserable all the time.

Government safety advocates suffer from two main problems.

a}  There is no rational thought, because the underlying current of hysterical fear is sufficiently strong, that it completely paralyses higher brain function.

b}  There is a relentless, desperate craving to avoid even a vague semblance of personal responsibility.  Amaterasu is right when she says that information counter to what people have been given, can help them get past this; but where I get frustrated, is in the level of resistance that I've noticed that some people have, to accepting said information.

Forget the patsy Holmes claiming to impersonate the Joker.  Watch the below video.  To me, that is the Joker's fundamental message; and it's actually a very positive one.

The main difference between me and Amaterasu, is that although we both believe in and want fundamentally the same thing, is that her means of getting there involves the proverbial carrot.  Mine involves the stick.  Amaterasu is a Lightworker, in the more direct sense of the word.  My goal is the same, but I'm a very heavy Plutonian, astrologically speaking.  My approach stems from the philosophy that there is more than one way to skin a cat; and sometimes there needs to be.

I wrote my own answer to Amy's Abundance Paradigm, which I should post here.  It wasn't quite as cheerful as Izzy's account, I will admit; it was a little darker.

That is also why I have always related so much to Batman, (and to a lesser extent, actually the Joker as well) because sometimes, it isn't always the proverbial spoonfull of sugar that makes the required medicine go down. 

You mentioned alcoholism as an analogy.  For an alcoholic, sometimes the usual form of counselling will be effective.  Occasionally, however, there can be a need for intervention of a somewhat more abrupt and direct form.  I'm not entirely opposed to the use of shock therapy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oowR5vL6oPM

People have been stabbed to death, so let's outlaw kitchen utensils.  People have been beaten to death so let's outlaw shovels, baseball bats, hammers, fists.  People have commited suicide after being sexually assaulted.  Let's outlaw genitalia.  An argument can be made for cintrolling or outlawing any number of things.  But please don't let them oytlaw cast iron skillets.  I reserve the right to threaten my husband with mine.  I have yet to actually use it on him.

Shasta

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 11:10:11 AM
People have been stabbed to death, so let's outlaw kitchen utensils.  People have been beaten to death so let's outlaw shovels, baseball bats, hammers, fists.  People have commited suicide after being sexually assaulted.  Let's outlaw genitalia.  An argument can be made for cintrolling or outlawing any number of things.  But please don't let them oytlaw cast iron skillets.  I reserve the right to threaten my husband with mine.  I have yet to actually use it on him.

Shasta

Mornin' Shasta!

When that cast iron skillet is worn out or gets rusty from forgetting it in the sink...it makes a great 100 yard target for a shootin' at!

I do agree with you nutshell, he is clearly psychotic, the eyes give that away easily, and for him to buy bullets and guns over a 6 month period, it happens everyday, as people who are new to shooting get wrapped up in it and purchase a lot of stuff from the onset, and then taper down after they own a bunch of gear.

The gubmint sees it all day, ad recognizes the obsessive behaviour of Americans to buy everything they can get their hands on, when they find a new hobby, whether it be video games , or guns.

So another guy from wherever who had no prior charges or convictions buys a crapload of bullets and guns?

No big deal, he's just protecting himself!

Theres one of these guys on every block and corner, we just havent seen the worst of it ....yet.

Some people just like to go target shooting too.  I can think of two ranges within ten minutes of the shooter's apartment.  The level of gang activity in that area lends itself to people having guns.  I don't remember what the rationale was, but APD presence was reduced last year.  I think budget cuts were cited.  Aurora is supposed to be the city of dawn.  Red dawn at morning, sailors take warning.  It's Aurora Roja these days.

Shasta

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 07:35:17 PM
Some people just like to go target shooting too.  I can think of two ranges within ten minutes of the shooter's apartment.  The level of gang activity in that area lends itself to people having guns.  I don't remember what the rationale was, but APD presence was reduced last year.  I think budget cuts were cited.  Aurora is supposed to be the city of dawn.  Red dawn at morning, sailors take warning.  It's Aurora Roja these days.

Shasta

I had no idea the violence in Aurora that has occured before, but after watching some videos on YT, the locals seem to echo the danger youve suggested.

Red Aurora? Sounds beautiful, but with gangs, names can be deceiving!

there are many better places to live in Colorado from what Ive heard, so I wonder why those who are in fear dont move, jobs withstanding.

Most of what Ive read, as from city-data.com and other info websites about cities and towns, show Aurora as a very gang heavy place, especially the rifts between hispanics and blacks.

Im for a big roundup of these thugs, and a reassignment of them to some deserted island where they can shoot it out and die in a heap...oops thats too cynical! :o

(satire alert)I really think we should try to to give them more money and try to help them become upstanding citizens of humanity! DOH!(satire alert)

I will say many like Alex Jones are finding numerous points of evidence showing it was possibly a false flag, but it will take a lot more to convince me of that than a few internet pundits!

I only hope where you live is a nice place, Shasta, as you deserve to be safe and sound!:D

Cheers!(When ya coming to Florida?);)
Dave

I'm for rounding up any "thugs" that have broken any of the three Laws.  Just because One looks like a thug and may even behave somewhat thuggish...does not follow that One should be "rounded up..."

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 25, 2012, 08:17:55 PM
I'm for rounding up any "thugs" that have broken any of the three Laws.  Just because One looks like a thug and may even behave somewhat thuggish...does not follow that One should be "rounded up..."

More clearly, here, the police and gubmint have ample knowledge who the thugs are, and any criminal background search will show candidates for such a roundup. Just according to looks, I never said that, but according to excessive thuggish behaviour and past criminal activity, especially repeat offenders...round em up!

Im not for coddling anyone who sees a thuggish look or lifestyle as acceptable, and if they want to exhibit thuggish activity and behaviour, they should be expelled from a kind loving society where they clearly dont try to be a useful part of.

Give em one chance to become a meaningful part of our civilization, or to the island they go!

Or we could fill our prisons up some more.....

I thought GANGS were illegal in the US since the time of Al Capone

So

WHY do we allow gangs to exist, grow strong, and shoot up our cities?

They KNOW who the are, heck they drive around town on Fri and Sat nights in their gang cars with the big metal logos in the windows

WHY... can't we just say Enough is Enough and set a zero tolerance for gangs?

Jamaica outlawed the Rastafarian gangs  so they moved to Canada (Canada honors the old commonwealth laws of movement, but WHY let in gangs that are known to be violent with a "Kill Whitie" agenda?

Mexican ILLEGALS flood into the US... bring their drugs and their gangs and leaving a trail of trash

But drive around town with a broken tail light, and SWAT will be at your door tomorrow

Okay a small exaggeration on the tail light... :P

But the longer we allow the gangs to run rampant, the harder it will become to solve the problem

I say wall of Manhattan, round em all up and drop em there, give em guns and let them sort it out  :D


Oh wait... that was a movie :P  So I guess I am not the first to think of THAT solution :D

Quote from: Littleenki on July 25, 2012, 08:28:55 PM
Give em one chance to become a meaningful part of our civilization, or to the island they go!

LMAO posted at the same time :P

Quote from: petrus4 on July 24, 2012, 11:29:10 AM
This is at the very core of the issue, Amaterasu.  The reason why the public themselves do not want to be armed; why they themselves demand TSA checkpoints everywhere, is because 8 out of 10 Americans in particular, are afflicted with a degree of cowardice, such that they barely deserve to be alive.

When America broke away from Britain, only 20% of the nation fought for that freedom. This is the way of things

QuoteHenry Kissinger was correct when he referred to the public as worthless eaters; but their worthlessness does not come from anything inherent.  Quite the contrary, it comes from a choice which is made in complete freedom, which actually runs counter to the genuine worth of humanity.

"worthless eaters"?  Really?  Doesn't Monsanto make a fortune feeding them> Doesn't Halliburton make a fortune selling materials to build houses for them? Don't the Oil Barons make a fortune selling them gasoline? Don't the banks make a fortune charging them fees on their own money?

SHEEP are also "worthless eaters" but they can be fleeced to make clothing :D

So what is your solution? Eliminate the "worthless eaters"? isn't that what all CTers say is the goal of the NWO?

Hmmmmm

Quote from: Gigas on July 25, 2012, 04:02:40 AM
Jared Lee Loughner the arizona shooter has no eye lashes either and he also has that robot eyelid look.

(http://static.infowars.com/images/AJShow_340x104.jpg)

:o    ::)

Quote from: zorgon on July 25, 2012, 09:25:38 PM
(http://static.infowars.com/images/AJShow_340x104.jpg)

:o    ::)

Oh poor AJ, hes a psyops robot!LOL!:D

Quote from: zorgon on July 25, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
I thought GANGS were illegal in the US since the time of Al Capone

So

WHY do we allow gangs to exist, grow strong, and shoot up our cities?

They KNOW who the are, heck they drive around town on Fri and Sat nights in their gang cars with the big metal logos in the windows

WHY... can't we just say Enough is Enough and set a zero tolerance for gangs?

Jamaica outlawed the Rastafarian gangs  so they moved to Canada (Canada honors the old commonwealth laws of movement, but WHY let in gangs that are known to be violent with a "Kill Whitie" agenda?

Mexican ILLEGALS flood into the US... bring their drugs and their gangs and leaving a trail of trash

But drive around town with a broken tail light, and SWAT will be at your door tomorrow

Okay a small exaggeration on the tail light... :P

But the longer we allow the gangs to run rampant, the harder it will become to solve the problem

I say wall of Manhattan, round em all up and drop em there, give em guns and let them sort it out  :D


Oh wait... that was a movie :P  So I guess I am not the first to think of THAT solution :D

Wholehearted agreement at every level, Zorgon!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvDo2JHB7o

Good stuff!

"Snake Plisskin?, we heard you were dead!"

Priceless as a movie and an idea, too! 8)

Le

Another weird anomaly hit the radar screen

Cops now say james holmes told them about a package mailed to the school he was attending. Cops made this very clear, they got a search warrant to get the package from the school mailroon and another warrant to open the package. Here's how it was reported.

QuotePolice recovered the package on Monday after getting a search warrant for the medical center mail room and then getting a second warrant to actually open the package, the law enforcement source said.

Police found the package as Holmes described it, including his name in the return address, and it's now being analyzed, the source said.

It was unclear how long the package had been in the mail room before its discovery.

How cop and federal law enforcement convienant. He tells them he mailed it, they get search warrants and get it and it has his return address on it with how he was going to kill people. Kinda like the phony michigan driver license with the Bulgaria bomber from iran and the phony 911 terrorist passport found at the world towers crash site.

Wonder what the date stamp was when it was mailed at the post office.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/25/12950440-source-tip-from-accused-aurora-shooter-leads-fbi-to-package?lite

Quote from: zorgon on July 25, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
I thought GANGS were illegal in the US since the time of Al Capone

Snippity snip snip

But drive around town with a broken tail light, and SWAT will be at your door tomorrow

Okay a small exaggeration on the tail light... :P

Snippity snip snip again

That exaggeration is not without merit. Forget to return a library book or video and yes, swat will be at your door.

Quote from: Littleenki on July 25, 2012, 08:28:55 PM
More clearly, here, the police and gubmint have ample knowledge who the thugs are, and any criminal background search will show candidates for such a roundup. Just according to looks, I never said that, but according to excessive thuggish behaviour and past criminal activity, especially repeat offenders...round em up!

Im not for coddling anyone who sees a thuggish look or lifestyle as acceptable, and if they want to exhibit thuggish activity and behaviour, they should be expelled from a kind loving society where they clearly dont try to be a useful part of.

Give em one chance to become a meaningful part of our civilization, or to the island they go!

Or we could fill our prisons up some more.....

I wonder what would happen to those who are presently thugs in a society where They could do anything They love to do within the three Laws...?  Presently, I will bet virtually every one of those thugs cannot afford to do what They love to do...

Quote from: zorgon on July 25, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
So what is your solution? Eliminate the "worthless eaters"? isn't that what all CTers say is the goal of the NWO?

What I said, which I clarified the first time, was that the specific behaviour pattern, which has been labelled by specific individuals, as what they consider "worthless eaterism," is a choice.

Yes, Kissinger and people like him, are eugenicists.  When they use the term, "worthless eaters," they are implying that the people who are the targets of that term, are that way uncontrollably, inevitably, and inherently'; supposedly there's no help for them.

What I was saying, however, is that while I believe that what Kissinger referred to as the worthless eater is real, I define it, as mentioned, as a behaviour pattern which an individual chooses to engage in.

In other words, people aren't worthless eaters inherently; they choose to adopt the way of life described by that term, as a behaviour pattern, but they could just as easily choose another behaviour pattern which was a lot more positive and productive, if they were willing to do so.  Most of the time, they are not.  I've seen human beings behave in some exceptionally degraded ways, and at times my own behaviour hasn't been particularly exemplary, either.

I do not believe that any human being inherently lacks worth; we all have worth.  However, most of us choose to act in relatively inefficient, unproductive, or self-defeating ways, for most of our lives.  We could choose something else, if we wanted to; so understand that the difference between my perspective and that of people like Kissinger, is that I believe we have a choice.  Eugenicists think that we're just born a certain way and we can't help it, so killing us is the only solution to the problem.  I don't believe that at all.

I think Amaterasu is right when she says that the main thing people need is new information; but a big part of the problem is the degree of resistance that most people have, to being receptive to said new information.

Before you accuse me of being vindictive or judgemental here, understand also that I actually self-identify with the term, in the sense that I have chosen to engage in the worthless eater lifestyle or behaviour pattern myself, for at least half my lifetime now.  So I'm definitely not just pointing the finger at other people, and trying to claim that I'm innocent.  I'm not.  I carry around just as much Marxist brainwashing as anyone else in this society; it destroyed my last relationship. 

I am nocturnal.  It is 9:30 am here, and I'm about to go to bed.  I typically get up at around 6 pm, go down the street and buy something to eat, and then come back here and sit on the computer, talking here or playing Minecraft, for the next 15 hours, before going to bed, getting up tomorrow, and doing the same thing again.  I'm 35 and a half, and I've been engaging in that behaviour pattern, with a few exceptions, for the last 20 years now. 

So the reason why I can use the term, "worthless eater," with authority, is because I have an exceptional level of intimacy, on a practical basis, with exactly what that term means. ;)

Quote from: petrus4 on July 25, 2012, 10:46:52 AM
Take a good look around.  What you're afraid of is already happening.  If we have to have a choice between a fascist state where people are killing each other, or an anarchic society where people are killing each other, my vote is always going to be for the latter, for two reasons.

In Canada you must be registered to aqquire a firearm. Most crimes with guns are with stolen guns, or guns smuggled in from out of the country. There are rare occurences with registered weapons. Crime here is very low and you can walk with your significant other unarmed and not feel you need to be "on your gaurd". Realistic law enforcement with accountability helps.

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a}  Although I'm going to die at some point anyway, (we all are) in an anarchic society, where I'm actually allowed to be armed, I potentially have a lot more control over how and when, than in a scenario where the cops have a monopoly on violence, and someone can break into my house and kill me without me being able to defend myself, and where if the cops show up, they're likely to be an even greater danger to me than the problem I called them to solve.

The main reason why people want the government to defend and protect them from everything, is because there is an overwhelming fear of death, and an implicit, underlying assumption that if the government will just protect them enough, eventually all potential causes of death will be removed.

The people need to hold their government officials accountable. There lies the conundrum in many countries. Like Zorgon says many people need to put down the ipod/pad (or whatever) and start paying attention to what your government is doing. 

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The only problem with this idea, (apart from the fact that it is completely unacknowledged and unconscious) is the fact that it won't work.  We aren't like Tolkien's Elves, where we can live forever if we aren't killed by something external.  We die of natural causes, even if we are completely safe, for our entirely lives anywayz.

When you get to level 65 you get 2 extra lives.  ;)

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b}  Most of the factors which cause people to be violent in the first place, stem from either inequality, or a lack of control over the direction of their own lives.  Get rid of government continually telling us what we can and can't do, and people will be able to start making that decision for themselves.  They will then become a lot happier, and I can promise you that you would see violence radically DECREASE as a result.  People like freedom; they've just been brainwashed in contemporary terms, to think it's a bad thing; and then they don't understand why they are so angry and miserable all the time.

Government safety advocates suffer from two main problems.

a}  There is no rational thought, because the underlying current of hysterical fear is sufficiently strong, that it completely paralyses higher brain function.

b}  There is a relentless, desperate craving to avoid even a vague semblance of personal responsibility.  Amaterasu is right when she says that information counter to what people have been given, can help them get past this; but where I get frustrated, is in the level of resistance that I've noticed that some people have, to accepting said information.

Forget the patsy Holmes claiming to impersonate the Joker.  Watch the below video.  To me, that is the Joker's fundamental message; and it's actually a very positive one.

The main difference between me and Amaterasu, is that although we both believe in and want fundamentally the same thing, is that her means of getting there involves the proverbial carrot.  Mine involves the stick.  Amaterasu is a Lightworker, in the more direct sense of the word.  My goal is the same, but I'm a very heavy Plutonian, astrologically speaking.  My approach stems from the philosophy that there is more than one way to skin a cat; and sometimes there needs to be.

Theres always a smarter cat with a better gun.  ;)

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That is also why I have always related so much to Batman, (and to a lesser extent, actually the Joker as well) because sometimes, it isn't always the proverbial spoonfull of sugar that makes the required medicine go down. 

You mentioned alcoholism as an analogy.  For an alcoholic, sometimes the usual form of counselling will be effective.  Occasionally, however, there can be a need for intervention of a somewhat more abrupt and direct form.  I'm not entirely opposed to the use of shock therapy.

Yeah, if only we all could have had that opportunity to grow and learn with the healing power of direct current. What a utopia this would be.  :P

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 26, 2012, 02:16:27 AM
The people need to hold their government officials accountable. There lies the conundrum in many countries. Like Zorgon says many people need to put down the ipod/pad (or whatever) and start paying attention to what your government is doing.

The entire reason why people don't put the ipad down, however, is the same reason why kids actually think American Idol and other reality shows are important.

Narcissistic supply.  Society is organised around self-appointed "leaders;" generally the most degenerate elements of the population.  Paris Hilton is a good example of a social role model, as far as high school kids are concerned.  All the little Paris wannabes have become experts on what's on TV themselves, and they use whether or not you're as "current," as they are, as one of the justifications which psychopaths need, for deriving a sense of superiority over their fellow man.  So you have to know every song, every performance, every case of who's doing what to who on Survivor or whatever else, in order to make sure you're socially included.

All roads lead to Rome.  Every last one of our society's problems, can be ultimately traced back to the fact, that we willingly allow ourselves, to be ruled by psychopaths.

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 11:10:11 AM
People have been stabbed to death, so let's outlaw kitchen utensils.  People have been beaten to death so let's outlaw shovels, baseball bats, hammers, fists.  People have commited suicide after being sexually assaulted.  Let's outlaw genitalia.  An argument can be made for cintrolling or outlawing any number of things.  But please don't let them oytlaw cast iron skillets.  I reserve the right to threaten my husband with mine.  I have yet to actually use it on him.

Shasta

I dunno, I bet your husband would much rather be attacked by genetailia than your skillet.  ;D

I agree that any number of these things could be arguments for regulation the guns are of much more significance because they do so much more collatoral damage and at range compared to a stabbing or skillet in the head.

Quote from: petrus4 on July 26, 2012, 02:27:54 AM
The entire reason why people don't put the ipad down, however, is the same reason why kids actually think American Idol and other reality shows are important.

Narcissistic supply.  Society is organised around self-appointed "leaders;" generally the most degenerate elements of the population.  Paris Hilton is a good example of a social role model, as far as high school kids are concerned.  All the little Paris wannabes have become experts on what's on TV themselves, and they use whether or not you're as "current," as they are, as one of the justifications which psychopaths need, for deriving a sense of superiority over their fellow man.  So you have to know every song, every performance, every case of who's doing what to who on Survivor or whatever else, in order to make sure you're socially included.

All roads lead to Rome.  Every last one of our society's problems, can be ultimately traced back to the fact, that we willingly allow ourselves, to be ruled by psychopaths.

Agreed, you can't kill them all either. You DO have the power to dissasociate yourself from the prison system they have created by learning about the prison itself. Are you a person or a corporate entity? A thug is a thug but a system has to play by it's own rules. One can also just get away from it. There is freedom to move to the country where the riff-raff and the oppression does not have to be a part of everyday life.

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 26, 2012, 02:16:27 AM
The people need to hold their government officials accountable. There lies the conundrum in many countries. Like Zorgon says many people need to put down the ipod/pad (or whatever) and start paying attention to what your government is doing. 

Any solution that requires that "People need to..." is bound to fail.  If that is what They're going to do, They would be doing it.  That is why My solution only requires the spread of the ideas, the awareness of what We have hidden and what We could do with it.  They don't "need to" do anything.  It helps if They spread the awareness too, but it is not needed for everyOne - or even most - to do so.  And My ideas can be spread via ipod/pad (or whatever).  [grin]

Quote from: petrus4 on July 26, 2012, 02:27:54 AM
The entire reason why people don't put the ipad down, however, is the same reason why kids actually think American Idol and other reality shows are important.

Narcissistic supply.  Society is organised around self-appointed "leaders;" generally the most degenerate elements of the population.  Paris Hilton is a good example of a social role model, as far as high school kids are concerned.  All the little Paris wannabes have become experts on what's on TV themselves, and they use whether or not you're as "current," as they are, as one of the justifications which psychopaths need, for deriving a sense of superiority over their fellow man.  So you have to know every song, every performance, every case of who's doing what to who on Survivor or whatever else, in order to make sure you're socially included.

All roads lead to Rome.  Every last one of our society's problems, can be ultimately traced back to the fact, that we willingly allow ourselves, to be ruled by psychopaths.

I do want to point out that if that is all You know...that is where Your head will be at.  And the superficial, narcissistic, degenerate perspective has been deliberately cultivated.  By Those with power.  They have sculpted within Humanity, an illusion which serves Them as a means of control.  The psychopaths in control aren't even the ones We easily see.  They are hidden behind this illusion, like evil wizards of Oz.

If One is not aware of a choice, One will travel the path One sees laid out before One.  Don't blame so much the People who have been hoodwinked.  Blame the hoodwinkers.

Dave, Aurora Roja would be equivalent to "red sky at morning."  You're probably familiar with that axiom.  And of course the movie Red Dawn was set in Colrado.  As far as being safe, I haven't been shot at in Aurora.  I can't say the same for my previous neighborhood of west Denver.

Ellirium, my husband has indicated that he prefers the idea of being attacked by my genitalia to the idea of being attacked by my skillet.  I think that puts him in the red-blooded male category.

On the plus side, Aurora parents and the state school board pushed a positive change through, despite the protests of Aurora Public Schools.  My grandkids attend a language immersion charter school, where they are learning Spanish.  The school is tuition free for Aurora residents.  APS protested on the grounds that charter schools were already being offered by the district.  They lost the protest because the language immersion and cultural education isn't offered by the other charter schools.

Shasta

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 26, 2012, 08:54:58 AM
I do want to point out that if that is all You know...that is where Your head will be at.  And the superficial, narcissistic, degenerate perspective has been deliberately cultivated.  By Those with power.  They have sculpted within Humanity, an illusion which serves Them as a means of control.  The psychopaths in control aren't even the ones We easily see.  They are hidden behind this illusion, like evil wizards of Oz.

If One is not aware of a choice, One will travel the path One sees laid out before One.  Don't blame so much the People who have been hoodwinked.  Blame the hoodwinkers.

I agree with this; but I do need to consciously remember it more often.  Thank you, Amaterasu.

Most welcome, Petrus.  [smile]  I see so many - and I once was one of Them - who cannot see outside that Disney picture They have painted, and all the propaganda and effort that goes into making those of Us who have moved past the veil "crazy," "conspiracy theorists," etc.  It's not that They willfully choose to stay in that perspective, it's that They have been taught that and that's all They know.

Information will free Us - but it has to come from a valid (to Each) source.  My one advantage was that once, at a scifi convention, I was told - and maybe by an ET? - "Everything You know is wrong."  That stuck in My head all these decades, and though at the time I thought He was just being weird...He was 100% right.

True, Amy, not only is everything we know wrong, it is all a fantasy.
Like that mind wiping mouse with his five gift shops per square foot.

We should start a thread about the way Disney uses the children to get to the parent's money, and the parents just go along with it like robots...sort of like leading your own kids to the slaughter, while losing the wherewithal to do anything about it.

"Here, buy our 7 dollar soda, and eat our 14 dollar taco, or would you like a drink, these watery margaritas are only 21.95!"

Someone once told me who worked for Disney, that Walt would be turning over in his grave. I believe it.

I live and work in Florida, and numerous people I meet every day have just come from Disney, and tell me that they will never set foot there again, as they had no idea what a commercialistic place it is.

And then others, adorned with every shirt, hat, and piece of plastic jewelry shaped like a mouse head, tell me how great is was, but they didnt do many rides, as they spent the day in the myriad of repetitive gift shops. :(

No doubt looking for that perfect little piece of plastic crap toy from China for Johnny!

And as a boy, I remember riding the space mountain ride, and reading plastered everywhere...SPONSORED BY MONSANTO.

Disney makes me vomit...sorry any Disney fans here.

Cheers(for real adolescent fun, like frisbees)
Dave

QuoteEllirium, my husband has indicated that he prefers the idea of being attacked by my genitalia to the idea of being attacked by my skillet.  I think that puts him in the red-blooded male category.

;D

You know what happens now right? He's going to pick a fight with you in anticipation of your attack.  ;) If love is a battlefield, then let genetalia be weapons of mass destruction.   :P

Well the plot thickens. Among James' apparent memory loss of the events that unfolded this article connects some very interesting dots.

Batman Connections,Robert Holmes And The LIBOR Scandal

QuoteThe truth maybe stranger than fiction, as we look at the stories that surround the main story of a so called brainwashed lone nut James Holmes who opens fire at a movie theater in Aurora Colorado and his connections to both neuroscience and 'Super soldier' or 'Peak Soldier performance' experiments and a father that works for a software company that analyses fraud for business.

According to his LinkedIn profile, James Holmes's father, Dr. Robert Holmes, who received a PhD in Statistics in 1981 from the University of California at Berkeley, worked for San Diego-based HNC Software, Inc. from 2000 to 2002. HNC, known as a "neural network" company, and DARPA, beginning in 1998, have worked on developing "cortronic neural networks," which would allow machines to interpret aural and visual stimuli to think like humans.

The cortronic concept was developed by HNC Software's chief scientist and co-founder, Robert Hecht-Nielsen. HNC merged with the Minneapolis-based Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO), a computer analysis and decision-making company. Robert Holmes continues to work at FICO.

Robert Holmes brief bio at linked in states the following: "My educational background is in Mathematics and Statistics. My experience over the last 10 years at HNC and FICO has been in developing predictive models for financial services; credit & fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models."

QuoteRobert Holmes is said to have developed computer algorithms that demonstrate predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.

QuoteJust prior to the shooting in Aurora Colorado, where James Holmes the son of Robert Holmes the software developer allegedly killed 12 and injured over 50 others a scandalous report was issued in the United kingdom about the LIBOR scandal where it has been discovered that much of the wealth held by the so called 99 percent is being held in offshore accounts far away from the taxman and that there is software that is now being used to track and expose those who are abusing the system.

Quotehttp://govtslaves.info/batman-connectionsrobert-holmes-and-the-libor-scandal/

:o

More dots...

QuoteRobert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.

QuoteMakes you wonder if this is part of the PROMIS/INSLAW software or a modified version that is far more accurate and that the future is the exposure of criminal activity that would send the world into global civil unrest. Could it be that Robert Holmes was involved with the creation of such software models and that his son was programmed to kill in order to create a distraction from the fraud scandal that would rock the world?

http://mortgagemovies.blogspot.de/2012/07/kingcast-and-mortgage-movies-remain.html (http://mortgagemovies.blogspot.de/2012/07/kingcast-and-mortgage-movies-remain.html)

Looking more like this was a psyop as well as a message.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 26, 2012, 08:54:58 AMDon't blame so much the People who have been hoodwinked.  Blame the hoodwinkers.

No blame the Shepherds...

Our world can be summed up by my

SHEEP analogy

Most people in the world are SHEEP... they go about their business of grazing (useless eaters as some call them :P )not really caring what goes on in the world around them. As long as they can graze in peace, they are happy contented SHEEP.

The Church knows this, that is why they call their congregation a 'flock'... "The Lord is Thy Shepherd, Thou Shall not WANT..." Governments know this...

Then you have the SHEPHERDS. It is THEIR job to make sure the SHEEP are kept safe and oblivious so they can continue to graze in peace.  A good SHEPHERD FLEECES (taxes) his SHEEP from time to time to make his coat. and once in a while enjoys a good leg of mutton :P

Then you have the DOGS (police etc)... it is their job to nip at the feet of the SHEEP and keep them inline. Why do you thing we call soldiers DOGS of War and give our troops DOG TAGS?

::)

Then you have the WOLVES (hoodwinkers, thieves, assorted baddies)... it is their job to pray upon the SHEEP that stray off the path.

Then you have the RAMS... all THEY want to do is F... all the SHEEP :P

And finally you have the BLACK SHEEP... those are the ones that don't follow the assigned pattern  :D

So you have to blame the SHEPHERDS because they are the ones not keeping things under control and keeping us safe. When outfits like the TSA can hire WOLVES (hoodwinkers, thieves, assorted baddies) to be in charge of our safety, then you are throwing the SHEEP to the WOLVES

So yeah Identify those SHEPHERDS and FIRE them...(hang em, draw and quarter them , etc :P )

QuoteRobert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.

Fascinating coincidence, this one. ;)

Another nefarious anomaly for your mind to tinkle with.

I posted James Holmes mug shot pic pointing out his eye lashes are missing. ZERO response. Instead numerous distractions on give em guns, don't give e guns, ya why not give em guns. Yet no one touched the obvious.

When handed facts, sheeple banter about avoiding the task of thinking the obvious. And that is.

The mug shot looks nothing like the picture they show before this guy was fingered as the show house killer. Looking at the before pic he has eye lashes.

Earlier, I was going to post the Dr holmes libor scandal and this shooting show. I won't have to now that someone pulled it up.

So what about it you ask, Its a global message to Robert Holmes to STFU. Get it, we took your kid away from you and that is not the end of it if you report anything about libor and our money hidden offshore.

Edit to add:

They did the same sick stuff to Micheal Reconosuito when they locked him away for inslaw promis testifying debacle.

Quote from: petrus4 on July 28, 2012, 04:30:23 AM
Fascinating coincidence, this one. ;)

@Ellirium, Petrus


Originally written by SORCHA FAAL from what I gather.

Quote from: Gigas on July 28, 2012, 05:27:12 AM
I posted James Holmes mug shot pic pointing out his eye lashes are missing. ZERO response. Instead numerous distractions on give em guns, don't give e guns, ya why not give em guns. Yet no one touched the obvious.

Perhaps I'm dim here...  What "obvious" thing should I have commented on?  Perhaps it's a simulacrum that is "under arrest?"  And the real son is hidden or dead?  That's the only "obvious" thing *I* might think of...

Quote from: Haole on July 28, 2012, 05:44:25 AM
@Ellirium, Petrus

Originally written by SORCHA FAAL from what I gather.

I would still see if you can verify it anywhere else.  Yes, Faal has been a source of a lot of hoax information in the past, but just because (s)he was 19 times, it doesn't necessarily mean that (s)he is the twentieth.  It's worth chasing up.