Aurora Theater Shooting

[Shasta56]

Some people just like to go target shooting too.  I can think of two ranges within ten minutes of the shooter's apartment.  The level of gang activity in that area lends itself to people having guns.  I don't remember what the rationale was, but APD presence was reduced last year.  I think budget cuts were cited.  Aurora is supposed to be the city of dawn.  Red dawn at morning, sailors take warning.  It's Aurora Roja these days.

Shasta

[Littleenki]

Some people just like to go target shooting too.  I can think of two ranges within ten minutes of the shooter's apartment.  The level of gang activity in that area lends itself to people having guns.  I don't remember what the rationale was, but APD presence was reduced last year.  I think budget cuts were cited.  Aurora is supposed to be the city of dawn.  Red dawn at morning, sailors take warning.  It's Aurora Roja these days.

Shasta

I had no idea the violence in Aurora that has occured before, but after watching some videos on YT, the locals seem to echo the danger youve suggested.

Red Aurora? Sounds beautiful, but with gangs, names can be deceiving!

there are many better places to live in Colorado from what Ive heard, so I wonder why those who are in fear dont move, jobs withstanding.

Most of what Ive read, as from city-data.com and other info websites about cities and towns, show Aurora as a very gang heavy place, especially the rifts between hispanics and blacks.

Im for a big roundup of these thugs, and a reassignment of them to some deserted island where they can shoot it out and die in a heap...oops thats too cynical!

(satire alert)I really think we should try to to give them more money and try to help them become upstanding citizens of humanity! DOH!(satire alert)

I will say many like Alex Jones are finding numerous points of evidence showing it was possibly a false flag, but it will take a lot more to convince me of that than a few internet pundits!

I only hope where you live is a nice place, Shasta, as you deserve to be safe and sound!:D

Cheers!(When ya coming to Florida?)
Dave

[Amaterasu]

I'm for rounding up any "thugs" that have broken any of the three Laws.  Just because One looks like a thug and may even behave somewhat thuggish...does not follow that One should be "rounded up..."

[Littleenki]

I'm for rounding up any "thugs" that have broken any of the three Laws.  Just because One looks like a thug and may even behave somewhat thuggish...does not follow that One should be "rounded up..."

More clearly, here, the police and gubmint have ample knowledge who the thugs are, and any criminal background search will show candidates for such a roundup. Just according to looks, I never said that, but according to excessive thuggish behaviour and past criminal activity, especially repeat offenders...round em up!

Im not for coddling anyone who sees a thuggish look or lifestyle as acceptable, and if they want to exhibit thuggish activity and behaviour, they should be expelled from a kind loving society where they clearly dont try to be a useful part of.

Give em one chance to become a meaningful part of our civilization, or to the island they go!

Or we could fill our prisons up some more.....

[zorgon]

I thought GANGS were illegal in the US since the time of Al Capone

So

WHY do we allow gangs to exist, grow strong, and shoot up our cities?

They KNOW who the are, heck they drive around town on Fri and Sat nights in their gang cars with the big metal logos in the windows

WHY... can't we just say Enough is Enough and set a zero tolerance for gangs?

Jamaica outlawed the Rastafarian gangs  so they moved to Canada (Canada honors the old commonwealth laws of movement, but WHY let in gangs that are known to be violent with a "Kill Whitie" agenda?

Mexican ILLEGALS flood into the US... bring their drugs and their gangs and leaving a trail of trash

But drive around town with a broken tail light, and SWAT will be at your door tomorrow

Okay a small exaggeration on the tail light...

But the longer we allow the gangs to run rampant, the harder it will become to solve the problem

I say wall of Manhattan, round em all up and drop em there, give em guns and let them sort it out 


Oh wait... that was a movie   So I guess I am not the first to think of THAT solution

[zorgon]

Give em one chance to become a meaningful part of our civilization, or to the island they go!

LMAO posted at the same time

[zorgon]

This is at the very core of the issue, Amaterasu.  The reason why the public themselves do not want to be armed; why they themselves demand TSA checkpoints everywhere, is because 8 out of 10 Americans in particular, are afflicted with a degree of cowardice, such that they barely deserve to be alive.

When America broke away from Britain, only 20% of the nation fought for that freedom. This is the way of things

Henry Kissinger was correct when he referred to the public as worthless eaters; but their worthlessness does not come from anything inherent.  Quite the contrary, it comes from a choice which is made in complete freedom, which actually runs counter to the genuine worth of humanity.

"worthless eaters"?  Really?  Doesn't Monsanto make a fortune feeding them> Doesn't Halliburton make a fortune selling materials to build houses for them? Don't the Oil Barons make a fortune selling them gasoline? Don't the banks make a fortune charging them fees on their own money?

SHEEP are also "worthless eaters" but they can be fleeced to make clothing

So what is your solution? Eliminate the "worthless eaters"? isn't that what all CTers say is the goal of the NWO?

Hmmmmm

[zorgon]

Jared Lee Loughner the arizona shooter has no eye lashes either and he also has that robot eyelid look.

   

[Littleenki]

   

Oh poor AJ, hes a psyops robot!LOL!:D

[Littleenki]

I thought GANGS were illegal in the US since the time of Al Capone

So

WHY do we allow gangs to exist, grow strong, and shoot up our cities?

They KNOW who the are, heck they drive around town on Fri and Sat nights in their gang cars with the big metal logos in the windows

WHY... can't we just say Enough is Enough and set a zero tolerance for gangs?

Jamaica outlawed the Rastafarian gangs  so they moved to Canada (Canada honors the old commonwealth laws of movement, but WHY let in gangs that are known to be violent with a "Kill Whitie" agenda?

Mexican ILLEGALS flood into the US... bring their drugs and their gangs and leaving a trail of trash

But drive around town with a broken tail light, and SWAT will be at your door tomorrow

Okay a small exaggeration on the tail light...

But the longer we allow the gangs to run rampant, the harder it will become to solve the problem

I say wall of Manhattan, round em all up and drop em there, give em guns and let them sort it out 


Oh wait... that was a movie   So I guess I am not the first to think of THAT solution

Wholehearted agreement at every level, Zorgon!!!!



Good stuff!

"Snake Plisskin?, we heard you were dead!"

Priceless as a movie and an idea, too!

Le

[Gigas]

Another weird anomaly hit the radar screen

Cops now say james holmes told them about a package mailed to the school he was attending. Cops made this very clear, they got a search warrant to get the package from the school mailroon and another warrant to open the package. Here's how it was reported.

Police recovered the package on Monday after getting a search warrant for the medical center mail room and then getting a second warrant to actually open the package, the law enforcement source said.

Police found the package as Holmes described it, including his name in the return address, and it's now being analyzed, the source said.

It was unclear how long the package had been in the mail room before its discovery.

How cop and federal law enforcement convienant. He tells them he mailed it, they get search warrants and get it and it has his return address on it with how he was going to kill people. Kinda like the phony michigan driver license with the Bulgaria bomber from iran and the phony 911 terrorist passport found at the world towers crash site.

Wonder what the date stamp was when it was mailed at the post office.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/25/12950440-source-tip-from-accused-aurora-shooter-leads-fbi-to-package?lite

[Gigas]

I thought GANGS were illegal in the US since the time of Al Capone

Snippity snip snip

But drive around town with a broken tail light, and SWAT will be at your door tomorrow

Okay a small exaggeration on the tail light...

Snippity snip snip again

That exaggeration is not without merit. Forget to return a library book or video and yes, swat will be at your door.

[Amaterasu]

More clearly, here, the police and gubmint have ample knowledge who the thugs are, and any criminal background search will show candidates for such a roundup. Just according to looks, I never said that, but according to excessive thuggish behaviour and past criminal activity, especially repeat offenders...round em up!

Im not for coddling anyone who sees a thuggish look or lifestyle as acceptable, and if they want to exhibit thuggish activity and behaviour, they should be expelled from a kind loving society where they clearly dont try to be a useful part of.

Give em one chance to become a meaningful part of our civilization, or to the island they go!

Or we could fill our prisons up some more.....

I wonder what would happen to those who are presently thugs in a society where They could do anything They love to do within the three Laws...?  Presently, I will bet virtually every one of those thugs cannot afford to do what They love to do...

[petrus4]

So what is your solution? Eliminate the "worthless eaters"? isn't that what all CTers say is the goal of the NWO?

What I said, which I clarified the first time, was that the specific behaviour pattern, which has been labelled by specific individuals, as what they consider "worthless eaterism," is a choice.

Yes, Kissinger and people like him, are eugenicists.  When they use the term, "worthless eaters," they are implying that the people who are the targets of that term, are that way uncontrollably, inevitably, and inherently'; supposedly there's no help for them.

What I was saying, however, is that while I believe that what Kissinger referred to as the worthless eater is real, I define it, as mentioned, as a behaviour pattern which an individual chooses to engage in.

In other words, people aren't worthless eaters inherently; they choose to adopt the way of life described by that term, as a behaviour pattern, but they could just as easily choose another behaviour pattern which was a lot more positive and productive, if they were willing to do so.  Most of the time, they are not.  I've seen human beings behave in some exceptionally degraded ways, and at times my own behaviour hasn't been particularly exemplary, either.

I do not believe that any human being inherently lacks worth; we all have worth.  However, most of us choose to act in relatively inefficient, unproductive, or self-defeating ways, for most of our lives.  We could choose something else, if we wanted to; so understand that the difference between my perspective and that of people like Kissinger, is that I believe we have a choice.  Eugenicists think that we're just born a certain way and we can't help it, so killing us is the only solution to the problem.  I don't believe that at all.

I think Amaterasu is right when she says that the main thing people need is new information; but a big part of the problem is the degree of resistance that most people have, to being receptive to said new information.

Before you accuse me of being vindictive or judgemental here, understand also that I actually self-identify with the term, in the sense that I have chosen to engage in the worthless eater lifestyle or behaviour pattern myself, for at least half my lifetime now.  So I'm definitely not just pointing the finger at other people, and trying to claim that I'm innocent.  I'm not.  I carry around just as much Marxist brainwashing as anyone else in this society; it destroyed my last relationship. 

I am nocturnal.  It is 9:30 am here, and I'm about to go to bed.  I typically get up at around 6 pm, go down the street and buy something to eat, and then come back here and sit on the computer, talking here or playing Minecraft, for the next 15 hours, before going to bed, getting up tomorrow, and doing the same thing again.  I'm 35 and a half, and I've been engaging in that behaviour pattern, with a few exceptions, for the last 20 years now. 

So the reason why I can use the term, "worthless eater," with authority, is because I have an exceptional level of intimacy, on a practical basis, with exactly what that term means.

[Ellirium113]

Take a good look around.  What you're afraid of is already happening.  If we have to have a choice between a fascist state where people are killing each other, or an anarchic society where people are killing each other, my vote is always going to be for the latter, for two reasons.

In Canada you must be registered to aqquire a firearm. Most crimes with guns are with stolen guns, or guns smuggled in from out of the country. There are rare occurences with registered weapons. Crime here is very low and you can walk with your significant other unarmed and not feel you need to be "on your gaurd". Realistic law enforcement with accountability helps.

a}  Although I'm going to die at some point anyway, (we all are) in an anarchic society, where I'm actually allowed to be armed, I potentially have a lot more control over how and when, than in a scenario where the cops have a monopoly on violence, and someone can break into my house and kill me without me being able to defend myself, and where if the cops show up, they're likely to be an even greater danger to me than the problem I called them to solve.

The main reason why people want the government to defend and protect them from everything, is because there is an overwhelming fear of death, and an implicit, underlying assumption that if the government will just protect them enough, eventually all potential causes of death will be removed.

The people need to hold their government officials accountable. There lies the conundrum in many countries. Like Zorgon says many people need to put down the ipod/pad (or whatever) and start paying attention to what your government is doing. 

The only problem with this idea, (apart from the fact that it is completely unacknowledged and unconscious) is the fact that it won't work.  We aren't like Tolkien's Elves, where we can live forever if we aren't killed by something external.  We die of natural causes, even if we are completely safe, for our entirely lives anywayz.

When you get to level 65 you get 2 extra lives. 

b}  Most of the factors which cause people to be violent in the first place, stem from either inequality, or a lack of control over the direction of their own lives.  Get rid of government continually telling us what we can and can't do, and people will be able to start making that decision for themselves.  They will then become a lot happier, and I can promise you that you would see violence radically DECREASE as a result.  People like freedom; they've just been brainwashed in contemporary terms, to think it's a bad thing; and then they don't understand why they are so angry and miserable all the time.

Government safety advocates suffer from two main problems.

a}  There is no rational thought, because the underlying current of hysterical fear is sufficiently strong, that it completely paralyses higher brain function.

b}  There is a relentless, desperate craving to avoid even a vague semblance of personal responsibility.  Amaterasu is right when she says that information counter to what people have been given, can help them get past this; but where I get frustrated, is in the level of resistance that I've noticed that some people have, to accepting said information.

Forget the patsy Holmes claiming to impersonate the Joker.  Watch the below video.  To me, that is the Joker's fundamental message; and it's actually a very positive one.

The main difference between me and Amaterasu, is that although we both believe in and want fundamentally the same thing, is that her means of getting there involves the proverbial carrot.  Mine involves the stick.  Amaterasu is a Lightworker, in the more direct sense of the word.  My goal is the same, but I'm a very heavy Plutonian, astrologically speaking.  My approach stems from the philosophy that there is more than one way to skin a cat; and sometimes there needs to be.

Theres always a smarter cat with a better gun. 

That is also why I have always related so much to Batman, (and to a lesser extent, actually the Joker as well) because sometimes, it isn't always the proverbial spoonfull of sugar that makes the required medicine go down. 

You mentioned alcoholism as an analogy.  For an alcoholic, sometimes the usual form of counselling will be effective.  Occasionally, however, there can be a need for intervention of a somewhat more abrupt and direct form.  I'm not entirely opposed to the use of shock therapy.

Yeah, if only we all could have had that opportunity to grow and learn with the healing power of direct current. What a utopia this would be.