Greetings:
This is right up yuz alley, Le, PWM, Pimander, and now, The Janitor... :P
Of course, Zorgon probably has a file on it...
Comment by Janet Darlene Millien on March 7, 2012 at 8:24pm
About 6 years or so ago I was listening to a Paul Harvey Show on the radio.
One of his news stories was about some young inventors who had built what could be called an eternal battery. I use the word battery because the device stored energy like a battery does.
The electric energy was stored on the surface of some kind of superthin, superlight material which could be folded over and over on itself or rolled up like say a toilet paper roll. The electricity could be stored on both sides of the sheet of material.
The inventors estimated that a device of such stored electricty the size of car battery would be able to run an electric car 3 to possibly 10 years. The inventors said that the device would be ready for scientific scrutiny in just 3 years and have a practical, marketable device ready in one year after that and the cost of the device would cost about the same as a car battery.
Also the device would be rechargeable.
The range of size and applications infinite.
Paul Harvey said he would follow the story and let everyone know what was happening as time went by.
I never heard another word about the device and inventors. Has anyone ever heard of this device or know how to research Paul Harvey's shows? I wish I could remember more about the inventors and where they developed the device. I know no names were mentioned. Please let me know if you've heard of this.
very interesting, thor; makes me wonder if it went the path of the tiny yet mighty motor...
into oblivion...
seeker
Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 17, 2012, 02:18:28 AM
The electric energy was stored on the surface of some kind of superthin, superlight material which could be folded over and over on itself or rolled up like say a toilet paper roll. The electricity could be stored on both sides of the sheet of material.
That sounds like a type of capacitor
(http://freecircuits.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Inside-capacitor.jpg)
Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 17, 2012, 02:18:28 AM
what could be called an eternal battery.
The eternal battery for the mobile is invented(http://files.myopera.com/marketu/blog/the-eternal-battery-for-the-mobile-is-invented-2127.jpg)
QuoteThe American scientists from University of Missouri declared that have developed the new battery working on a nuclear energy, which on the size no more a usual coin.
Radio isotope batteries can provide capacity, on six usages exceeding a charge of chemical batteries. The given power supply can receive energy by means of disintegration of radioactive isotopes, - Dzhe Kvon (Jae Kwon), one of the scientists who have created the given jnvention has told.
As he said, though nuclear batteries any more are not a novelty and are widely used in various areas (for example, for maintenance of any food of pilotless devices, such as space companions), break consists in the size of the given device.
Also scientists notice that, despite widespread fears concerning danger of a nuclear energy, such batteries are completely harmless. People hear a word nuclear and think that it something very dangerous. However, nuclear power supplies already for a long time provide with energy set of devices, such as artificial organs, space companions and underwater systems, - Kvon has told.
The new battery can be used in mobile phones, portable computers, cameras and other technics. Potentially such power supplies can work hundreds and even thousand years. A problem that for today scientist was not possible to achieve high capacity from these batteries.
Dzhe Kvon (at the left) and its colleagues have created the nuclear battery comparable on the size with a coin
Dzhe Kvon has noticed that this business of the near future. In this case various small electronic devices, such as already mentioned mobile phones, can work without additional charge more than thousand years.
One more innovation of scientists of University of Missouri is the decision of a problem of the semiconductor. The matter is that earlier in nuclear batteries the firm semiconductor which, however, quickly collapsed under the influence of radiation was applied only. Now it was possible to replace the firm semiconductor liquid that partly and has given the chance to reduce the size of the battery.
The eternal battery for the mobile is invented (http://my.opera.com/marketu/blog/2009/10/11/the-eternal-battery-for-the-mobile-is-invented-2127)
Nanotechnology Eternal Battery QuoteIf the development on this nanotechnology battery pans out soon you may never have to charge your laptop computer again or fish around in the junk draw for batteries. Researchers hope that they will be able to create a battery that will allow electronic devices to power themselves.
Lead co-author Dr Madhu Bhaskaran said the research combined the potential of piezoelectrics - materials capable of converting pressure into electrical energy - and the cornerstone of microchip manufacturing, thin film technology. "The power of piezoelectrics could be integrated into running shoes to charge mobile phones, enable laptops to be powered through typing or even used to convert blood pressure into a power source for pacemakers - essentially creating an everlasting battery," she said.
Nanotechnology Eternal Battery (http://www.neatorama.com/2011/06/24/nanotechnology-eternal-battery/)Nanotechnology might result in eternal battery life(http://cdn2.ubergizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/finger-charging.jpg)
QuoteSounds like a dream? Well, to be honest, just how much juice do you expect the entire day's worth of taps on your touchscreen is able to generate? Surely those alone aren't enough to power the display even, but if it does help extend your phone's battery life by just one more minute so that you can wrap up that all important phone call, then why not? Boffins over at the RMIT University in Melbourne have been working hard to discover the secrets of creating a self-sustained energy source, and if that were to be successful, then it would surely be a must have in any and every device, no?
Using piezoelectrics with a thin film microchip coating, said scientists have managed to discover just how much energy pressure from your finger taps are able to generate, and while this isn't the first time it has been applied, there might be some use for it if the efficiency level can be increased in the future. Of course, there are many other practical uses that one can think of if the technology has been perfected, but until then, you had best pack that phone charger with you on your next road trip.
Nanotechnology might result in eternal battery life (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/06/nanotechnology-might-result-in-eternal-battery-life/)
Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 17, 2012, 02:18:28 AM
Greetings:
This is right up yuz alley, Le, PWM, Pimander, and now, The Janitor... :P
Of course, Zorgon probably has a file on it...
Comment by Janet Darlene Millien on March 7, 2012 at 8:24pm
About 6 years or so ago I was listening to a Paul Harvey Show on the radio.
One of his news stories was about some young inventors who had built what could be called an eternal battery. I use the word battery because the device stored energy like a battery does.
The electric energy was stored on the surface of some kind of superthin, superlight material which could be folded over and over on itself or rolled up like say a toilet paper roll. The electricity could be stored on both sides of the sheet of material.
The inventors estimated that a device of such stored electricty the size of car battery would be able to run an electric car 3 to possibly 10 years. The inventors said that the device would be ready for scientific scrutiny in just 3 years and have a practical, marketable device ready in one year after that and the cost of the device would cost about the same as a car battery.
Also the device would be rechargeable.
The range of size and applications infinite.
Paul Harvey said he would follow the story and let everyone know what was happening as time went by.
I never heard another word about the device and inventors. Has anyone ever heard of this device or know how to research Paul Harvey's shows? I wish I could remember more about the inventors and where they developed the device. I know no names were mentioned. Please let me know if you've heard of this.
yellow pages have blessed us with dozens upon gadzellions of $tori€$ like that ::)
Quote from: zorgon on September 17, 2012, 03:55:14 AM
The eternal battery for the mobile is invented
(http://files.myopera.com/marketu/blog/the-eternal-battery-for-the-mobile-is-invented-2127.jpg)
The eternal battery for the mobile is invented (http://my.opera.com/marketu/blog/2009/10/11/the-eternal-battery-for-the-mobile-is-invented-2127)
RTGs ain't something new & these pets have trashed efficacy ;)
why not a solar cell on the back of the phone?
Quote from: robomont on September 17, 2012, 04:26:45 AM
why not a solar cell on the back of the phone?
Zorgon's buddy, the Amazon, has them... 8)
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/solarcellphonechargers.png)
Quote from: SarK0Y on September 17, 2012, 03:58:54 AM
yellow pages have blessed us with dozens upon gadzellions of $tori€$ like that ::)
Greetings:
We tend to agree.
For example:
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/JimHarris.png)
Pretty words :-\
Do they have bunny ears.
Portable power, like potable water, is an on demand item. You're right Thor, its a fascinating development.
Quote from: TheJanitor on September 17, 2012, 08:19:29 AM
Portable power, like potable water, is an on demand item. You're right Thor, its a fascinating development.
Greetings:
Thank you for the kind words. (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/images/ODD/petje.gif)
Obviously, you are eminently qualified to assist us in our understanding of what was laid out in the OP... ;)
... and where Dick Tracy when we need him? What happened to the peeps involved here?
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Have you experienced anything similar to this?
QuoteThe electric energy was stored on the surface of some kind of superthin, superlight material which could be folded over and over on itself or rolled up like say a toilet paper roll.
The electricity could be stored on both sides of the sheet of material.
Add this:
QuoteThe inventors estimated that a device of such stored electricty the size of car battery would be able to run an electric car 3 to possibly 10 years.
Or is this another example of an intriguing announcement and the subsequent disappearance of another inventor and device that would be a game-changer? ???
Was another 'someone' getting too close to the truth? >:(
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It sounds like a kind of Nano-foil capacitor, like this one;
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/images/ODD/Nanocap.JPG)
This is a 1 FARAD 5.5v capacitor, it has the surface area of a football field :o
And this is just the beginning.
Cool thread, let's see some more findings!
There's nothing wrong with the lead-acid battery, except that the lead is heavy & poisonous, the acid dangerous, and they have a limited life.
Phillips were doing research on lightweight non-toxic plastic batteries way back in the 80's, there was an article on it in the NewScientist.
Whatever happened to that project?
It died a very quiet death, methinks ;)
Although not the Ultimate Battery in the sense what of this thread is about (sorry) I have to say how happy I have been with my set of AA Sayno Eneloops. For the batterys us mules get to use they should be in everyones kit of items for a rainy day, and yes they will stay charged laying around for that rainy day after they have been sitting on the shelf losing very little charge LOL
http://www.eneloop.info/eneloop.html
Sorry for the "off the shelf" tech talk :D :-[
Love the talk the Mil have of super capacitors... wonder how far they are advanced ?
Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 17, 2012, 03:53:08 PMHave you experienced anything similar to this?
I have the remains of one of those batteries stuffed in the back of my desk drawer. Got it from Warren.
QuoteOr is this another example of an intriguing announcement and the subsequent disappearance of another inventor and device that would be a game-changer? ???
Anything which threatens the petro dollar.
QuoteWas another 'someone' getting too close to the truth? >:(
Happens quite frequently. It's because unification can happen in a garage at KV levels, not a billion dollar facility at GV levels.
Quote from: TheJanitor on September 17, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
Happens quite frequently.
It's because unification can happen in a garage at KV levels...
Welcome back to the garage ;)
You are admitting to having a similar device
"superthin, superlight material which could be folded over and over on itself or rolled up like say a toilet paper roll.
The electricity could be stored on both sides of the sheet of material."
And this leading statement.
Quote"I have the remains of one of those batteries stuffed in the back of my desk drawer.
Got it from Warren."
We notice the thought-provoking Time-Dilation information available right here on TLM, and also notice some of the crowd he runs with... :)
Dr Harold Puthoff, Thomas E Bearden, Michael Odenwald, Toby Grotz, Arthur C Clarke, Ken Shoulders, Timothy Boyer, Richard Feynman, Bernhard Haisch, Alfonso Rueda, Hendrik Casimir, Dr Steve Lamoreaux, Peter Hahn, Newton, Albert Einstein, Maxwell, Nikola Tesla, Walter Russel, Paul Stowe, Warren York, Mathew Campbell, Henry Warren, Dr Robert Forward, and more...
Now, how many of these peeps are actually participating at some level here on PRC?
Well, at least you're here.
Now about that 'battery'... ::)
and help us understand what time and electrical energy have in common... ???
tfw
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on September 17, 2012, 04:06:52 PM
There's nothing wrong with the lead-acid battery, except that the lead is heavy & poisonous, the acid dangerous, and they have a limited life.
...And they release explosive gas when charged, and they have a tendancy to swell and explode on occasion, and they are HEAVY.
LOL, nothing wrong with them...EXCEPT EVERYTHING ;)
How about crystals?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD4Bz6ABUxg
Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 17, 2012, 10:53:36 PM
You are admitting to having a similar device
Negatory. I am not aware what the properties if its construction are, but you can go ask Warren York.
QuoteAnd this leading statement.
We notice the thought-provoking Time-Dilation information available right here on TLM, and also notice some of the crowd he runs with... :)
You forgot Dr. George Merkle. He had a special place in my heart, and I in his. He was the model of Daddy Warbucks for Little Orphan Annie you know...first edition
QuoteNow, how many of these peeps are actually participating at some level here on PRC?
None. Except me.
QuoteWell, at least you're here.
Because, I do not want to see a brother's work undone and forgotten.
Quoteand help us understand what time and electrical energy have in common... ???
Its not as fancy as you may think. One giant bhut jolokia, two shots of Hot Monkey, and a bowl of seaweed may loosen me up enuf. Its time as related to motion. I can give the pieces of the equations, you have to put them together. Because homey wants a few more days in the Sun with his daughters.
Quotetfw
fish.
All very good reasons, Janitor 8) May you enjoy many days in the sun with your children.
bits and pieces can be structured and eventually lead to a completed puzzle, especially if one is pointed to works of others that help align the pieces in the correct manner and sequence...
seeker
Best at the beach, janitor!
Now Thor asked a fine question..what do time and electricity have in common?
If you ask a typical physicist, the answer will be that electricity is a flow of electrons within a conductor, and that time is relative to this action, as it is the speed of light.
But, if you ask the guy in his garage, he will tell you a much different tale of how electrons dont exist in the way the mainstream want us to think.
He will tell you that electricity is a result of resistance and return...a simultaneous to and from, which in definition is time travel, as the electricity is right back where it started instantly, with zero time loss. It's just there.
Of course with resistance the electricity is being slowed to an actual time lapse, and thats where light and heat come into play, and electricity actually then appears to manifest at the speed of light...much slower than instantly without resistance.
These batteries IMO, slow the instantaneous existence of electricity without resistance, and therefore allow the electricity to avoid creating light and heat, while slowing to sub-luminal velocity. Then the release of the contained flow is able to be controlled and maintained with minimal loss. The creation of light or heat is where normal batteries go wrong..and resistance is always the culprit.
Time travel at its core definition..just without spaceships and wookies.
Or Im completely wrong, in which case..give me a few minutes to get a heads start running away! :o
Cheers!
Quote from: Littleenki on September 18, 2012, 05:13:03 AM...give me a few minutes to get a heads start running away! :o
Cheers!
You'll need it, because...time as a function of motion, can stop. I can talk the generalities like theory, they are not the "forbidden" zone. ::)
It was the first stark realization I came to, only very recently. If the electron is slowed, so does time slow. :o
Consider the ramifications. How this could effect the speed of light, our perception, and control of a "field" of time by control of the "speed" of electricity. Easy to assume with, and overlook.
Quote from: TheJanitor on September 18, 2012, 07:04:17 AM
You'll need it, because...time as a function of motion, can stop. I can talk the generalities like theory, they are not the "forbidden" zone. ::)
It was the first stark realization I came to, only very recently. If the electron is slowed, so does time slow. :o
Consider the ramifications. How this could effect the speed of light, our perception, and control of a "field" of time by control of the "speed" of electricity. Easy to assume with, and overlook.
As above, so below...the dance of the electron seems to be the control for our path through so called time, eh?
I like the way you think, Janitor!
Cheers!
Fascinating, guys.
Thor;
Quoteand help us understand what time and electrical energy have in common...
We are at this stage contemplating the 'time-forwarding' of electrons that i've mentioned a few times.
That experiment still needs to be done....
Indeed Janitor, if you stop electrons then you (effectively) stop time (gravity has also a role there but) in this sense it would be true.
But electrons never stop moving, even at zero Kelvin, now why is that?
Clearly they have a connection with that external energy flow (aether?) and indeed i have the conviction that the charge is the key, the electron is the instrument....
Must go, keep posting peeps 8)
Indeed, fellas, cant stop the spin of those pesky electrons..what are they really?
As with magnetism...I must feel that electrcity is a force of life, and nothing more, and in this wide universe, the only thing that cant be stopped is life energy itself.
We strive to understand the electrons and the fields of the magnet, but all we really are seeking is the meaning of life.
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on September 18, 2012, 06:58:11 PM
Indeed, fellas, cant stop the spin of those pesky electrons..what are they really?Le
Solitons in an electron/positron sea. The speed changes by filling an energy level without the change in thermal energy.
Think about it. Can be done electromagnetically.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on September 18, 2012, 06:33:20 PM
But electrons never stop moving, even at zero Kelvin, now why is that?
The Aether is superconducting.
Quote from: TheJanitor on September 19, 2012, 12:53:20 AM
The Aether is superconducting.
Quote"The photon is not a constant but is energy based on DECAYING spinning wave resonance. Now when an energy exchange takes place between two electrons (or particles), the electron may move with a velocity.
When the particle has absorbed or attained enough energy, it may get rid of that energy by emitting it in a full or partially MUTILATED wave form.
But a second particle or electron may REABSORB THE SAME ENERGY, whereas BOTH will SPIN and RECOIL IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.
The direction will be determined by the recoiling photons. The photon transfer will be responsible for the force set up between the pair of electrons. The photon is energy in wave form which acts as a force field.
This moving wave form can convert to current as the force field is being produced when the photon RECOILS WHILE IT IS SPINNING.
This force is related to the inverse square law for the force of attraction and repulsion between two interacting particles through energy exchange."
The WORD according to George.
Are you associated with Mike Windell also?
And about 'that battery in your desk'...
Peace Love Light
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Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 19, 2012, 02:16:14 AM
The WORD according to George.
Scroll waves
QuoteAre you associated with Mike Windell also?
Sounds familiar. Very. But it has been 22 years...
QuoteAnd about 'that battery in your desk'...
Says "1.2v unleaded" lol
Quote
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fish.
Scroll waves???
A living battery, regenrating like a human electrical system, or a torus, perhaps??
???
Quote from: Littleenki on September 19, 2012, 03:12:11 AM
Scroll waves???
A living battery, regenrating like a human electrical system, or a torus, perhaps??
???
The Turing test here says if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it must be a duck.
(http://yeinjee.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/weird-038-duck.jpg)
Quack!
;)
Quote from: Littleenki on September 19, 2012, 03:24:56 AM
(http://yeinjee.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/weird-038-duck.jpg)
Quack!
;)
Yo Bro Dave:
We see that TPTB finally let you on the river with your Florida duck boat... ::)
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LOL, Thor, shes a beaut, eh?
Problem is, I cant sneak up on the fish anymore...gotta get out and wade!LOL!
Cheers!
some folks were talking on my mibs thread about the heat issue with engines and it got me thinkin about coolant.
what if the heat from an engine was sent to a molten salt battery.
using freon and a compressor.
maybe a stainless condenser coil in the salt.
the compressor would have to be able to handle high heat.
the compressor may cost more than the energy saved ,but performance of engine would be higher,making engine more efficient.
and extra coil could be used to cool incoming air to engine.
this heat would be transferred to the salt battery too.
now if we can find a more efficient way to convert molten salt to electricity or motive power.
Molten salt batteries exist already, though not well known:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_battery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_battery)
This part interested me, it may be applicable in your idea of using heat from the engine.
QuoteLow temperature molten salts.
Sumitomo developed a battery using a salt that is molten at 57 °C (135 °F) far lower than sodium based batteries. The battery offers energy densities as high as 290 Wh/L. The battery employs only nonflammable materials and will not ignite on contact with air, nor is there thermal runaway. This eliminates waste-heat storage or fire- and explosion-proof equipment, and allows closer packing of cells. The company expects that the battery requires half the volume of lithium-ion batteries and one quarter that of sodium-sulfur batteries.
Maybe build the battery around the engine, this would recycle waste heat.
A thermocouple plate wall could further turn waste heat directly into electricity.
The possibilities are endless.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on September 21, 2012, 08:57:58 PM
The possibilities are endless.
Perhaps, but what about costing a nickel to make, selling for a buck, and being habit forming?
Hey, face it, we all want our super powerful chariots, gone forever are the horse and ox. The thrill of power.
Try a little booster, for example, the high voltage lead into a small container full of water. Inside, the HV lead is attached to a pin. A vacuum line goes out to the intake manifold, and what do you have...A hydrogen peroxide injector!
More power, low cost, great marketing potential. Right? Now try it out :)
Quote from: TheJanitor on September 22, 2012, 02:56:48 AM
Perhaps, but what about costing a nickel to make, selling for a buck, and being habit forming?
Hey, face it, we all want our super powerful chariots, gone forever are the horse and ox. The thrill of power.
Try a little booster, for example, the high voltage lead into a small container full of water. Inside, the HV lead is attached to a pin. A vacuum line goes out to the intake manifold, and what do you have...A hydrogen peroxide injector!
More power, low cost, great marketing potential. Right? Now try it out :)
Excellent, Dr J; any teasers on voltage, amperage, chemical additives or composition of the water, perhaps a little red devil lye, you know, just average, mundane info...
;D
seeker
Quote from: the seeker on September 22, 2012, 03:26:04 AM
Excellent, Dr J; any teasers on voltage, amperage, chemical additives or composition of the water, perhaps a little red devil lye, you know, just average, mundane info...
;D
seeker
Ramp up the voltage off the ignition coil, damn the amperage, any water, no additives. They already use this for water purification. Your vacuum line will boil the H2O2 off. Preferably pulse it
If we're talking about splitting water, why not run the engine on it?
Read my post here:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2666.90 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2666.90)
Read those plans 8)
i dont want to be a thread killer but lightning hitting the ocean would set the world afire.not gonna happen.
show me numbers,real numbers as to exact voltage and amperage?output of gasses by mole per watts?output of energy of the ignited gas?
The corona discharge occurs under water. I think they call it pulsed plasma, it is used in water purification. There is a reaction between the O3 and H2O to create the H2O2. H2O2 is used as a rocket propellant as well, with a catalyst creating a high disintegration rate. I'll have to search for it, but any inventions discussed here are the property of PRC as far as I am concerned, so we can all enjoy working together. :)
I'll drink to that ;D
The I.F. is working on it..behind closed doors. Sorry about that, but think of it as Lockheeds 'skunk works' 8)
Not everything discussed there is for public ears and i don't want this site getting legal problems because of our efforts :-X
I heartily welcome any ideas from members who want to see something done about their theory/question/idea, those on the team can kick it into the back room for review 8)
Of course there's a 'grey area'-i don't mind posting all of Stan Meyers plans openly since it's all over the net anyway, only you won't see OUR plans posted, yet.Not until it's been replicated, reviewed, & complete plans etc drawn up.
Another way we could make some cash is to research certain specific things for industry, especially the wierd stuff we seem to specialise in....
A better mousetrap? Sure, why not?
Quote from: TheJanitor on September 18, 2012, 02:08:15 AM
One giant bhut jolokia, two shots of Hot Monkey, and a bowl of seaweed may loosen me up enuf.
Well I find one of theses works to loosen tongues too :D
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m697n2XQmz1qgag0e.jpg)
Hey what good is a castle without a Dungeon? 8)
Quote from: zorgon on October 02, 2012, 07:40:22 PM
Well I find one of theses works to loosen tongues too :D
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m697n2XQmz1qgag0e.jpg)
Hey what good is a castle without a Dungeon? 8)
Cheaper than a chiropractor, too..and more effective!
Le
Quote from: TheJanitor on September 18, 2012, 02:08:15 AM
Negatory. I am not aware what the properties if its construction are,
but you can go ask Warren York.
We did, and invited him here.
Please dig out that battery and let's have a look ;D :o
Curious in Rio Linda :-\