Another Quest For 'The Ultimate Battery'

[Littleenki]

Scroll waves???

A living battery, regenrating like a human electrical system, or a torus, perhaps??

[TheJanitor]

Scroll waves???

A living battery, regenrating like a human electrical system, or a torus, perhaps??

The Turing test here says if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it must be a duck.

[Littleenki]

Quack!

[thorfourwinds]

Quack!

Yo Bro Dave:

We see that TPTB finally let you on the river with your Florida duck boat...

Peace Love Light

tfw   

Liberty & Equality or Revolution

[Littleenki]

LOL, Thor, shes a beaut, eh?

Problem is, I cant sneak up on the fish anymore...gotta get out and wade!LOL!

Cheers!

[robomont]

some folks were talking on my mibs thread about the heat issue with engines and it got me thinkin about coolant.
what if the heat from an engine was sent to a molten salt battery.
using freon and a compressor.
maybe a stainless condenser coil in the salt.
the compressor would have to be able to handle high heat.
the compressor may cost more than the energy saved ,but performance of engine would be higher,making engine more efficient.
and extra coil could be used to cool incoming air to engine.
this heat would be transferred to the salt battery too.
now if we can find a more efficient way to convert molten salt to electricity or motive power.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Molten salt batteries exist already, though not well known:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_battery

This part interested me, it may be applicable in your idea of using heat from the engine.

Low temperature molten salts.
Sumitomo developed a battery using a salt that is molten at 57 °C (135 °F) far lower than sodium based batteries. The battery offers energy densities as high as 290 Wh/L. The battery employs only nonflammable materials and will not ignite on contact with air, nor is there thermal runaway. This eliminates waste-heat storage or fire- and explosion-proof equipment, and allows closer packing of cells. The company expects that the battery requires half the volume of lithium-ion batteries and one quarter that of sodium-sulfur batteries.

Maybe build the battery around the engine, this would recycle waste heat.

A thermocouple plate wall could further turn waste heat directly into electricity.
The possibilities are endless.

[TheJanitor]

The possibilities are endless.

Perhaps, but what about costing a nickel to make, selling for a buck, and being habit forming?

Hey, face it, we all want our super powerful chariots, gone forever are the horse and ox. The thrill of power.

Try a little booster, for example, the high voltage lead into a small container full of water. Inside, the HV lead is attached to a pin. A vacuum line goes out to the intake manifold, and what do you have...A hydrogen peroxide injector!

More power, low cost, great marketing potential. Right? Now try it out

[The Seeker]

Perhaps, but what about costing a nickel to make, selling for a buck, and being habit forming?

Hey, face it, we all want our super powerful chariots, gone forever are the horse and ox. The thrill of power.

Try a little booster, for example, the high voltage lead into a small container full of water. Inside, the HV lead is attached to a pin. A vacuum line goes out to the intake manifold, and what do you have...A hydrogen peroxide injector!

More power, low cost, great marketing potential. Right? Now try it out

Excellent, Dr J; any teasers on voltage, amperage, chemical additives or composition of the water, perhaps a little red devil lye, you know, just average, mundane info...



seeker

[TheJanitor]

Excellent, Dr J; any teasers on voltage, amperage, chemical additives or composition of the water, perhaps a little red devil lye, you know, just average, mundane info...


seeker

Ramp up the voltage off the ignition coil, damn the amperage, any water, no additives. They already use this for water purification. Your vacuum line will boil the H2O2 off. Preferably pulse it

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

If we're talking about splitting water, why not run the engine on it?
Read my post here:

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2666.90

Read those plans

[robomont]

i dont want to be a thread killer but lightning hitting the ocean would set the world afire.not gonna happen.
show me numbers,real numbers as to exact voltage and amperage?output of gasses by mole per watts?output of energy of the ignited gas?

[TheJanitor]

The corona discharge occurs under water. I think they call it pulsed plasma, it is used in water purification. There is a reaction between the O3 and H2O to create the H2O2. H2O2 is used as a rocket propellant as well, with a catalyst creating a high disintegration rate. I'll have to search for it, but any inventions discussed here are the property of PRC as far as I am concerned, so we can all enjoy working together.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I'll drink to that

The I.F. is working on it..behind closed doors. Sorry about that, but think of it as Lockheeds 'skunk works'
Not everything discussed there is for public ears and i don't want this site getting legal problems because of our efforts
I heartily welcome any ideas from members who want to see something done about their theory/question/idea, those on the team can kick it into the back room for review
Of course there's a 'grey area'-i don't mind posting all of Stan Meyers plans openly since it's all over the net anyway, only you won't see OUR plans posted, yet.Not until it's been replicated, reviewed, & complete plans etc drawn up.


Another way we could make some cash is to research certain specific things for industry, especially the wierd stuff we seem to specialise in....

A better mousetrap? Sure, why not?

[zorgon]

One giant bhut jolokia, two shots of Hot Monkey, and a bowl of seaweed may loosen me up enuf.

Well I find one of theses works to loosen tongues too



Hey what good is a castle without a Dungeon?