Before I wax poetic on this subject, I share with you an article which should illicit hearty debate amongst some of us..read this and chime in with your thoughts..then Ill share mine...
http://www.naturalnews.com/037508_rigged_awakening_consciousness.html#ixzz29Bq9eZ16
Cheers!
Le
PIMANDER EDIT: I've added the intro to give the members an idea what it is that you want them to click.
Quote(NaturalNews) I've been pondering this topic for weeks, trying to find the words to communicate the full impact of this realization to which we are all increasingly awakening. Everything is rigged... the stock market, the news, the food, your taxes, public schools, the health care system, and on and on. Even Lance Armstrong's cycling victories were all apparently rigged (with doping), we're now finding out.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037508_rigged_awakening_consciousness.html#ixzz29ZjXfEM2
I have never been so painfully aware of the truth behind this blog as in recent years. Yes, everything is pretty much rigged. There is a loss of control created by the growth of the internet while MSM declines, but so what?
How does being aware of being a sheep change anything? There are plenty of people who live in corrupt 3rd world nations and are quite aware of their surroundings but what good does it do?
Gimme some hope here. Better yet, gimme free energy so we can wreck the misrule of the cabal.
QuoteHow do you beat a rigged system? Don't play!
With all these systems rigged against you, how do you stand a chance of getting ahead? As every Vegas gambler knows deep down, the only way to beat the house is to not play against the house. Don't play their game, in other words.
Instead of sending your children to government-run indoctrination centers known as public schools, home school them.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037508_rigged_awakening_consciousness.html#ixzz29ZklS1wj
No. Real change, if not due to a catastrophe, will come from someone or an group who plays the game better that the people rigging it OR a person or group they decide to back because it may avert said catastrophe (in other words they are given no choice).
If you don't play at all, the system is still rigged to nail you.
Quote
Level 3 - "Mastery"
A level 3 person not only understands a great deal about the real world around them, they have also grasped ways to navigate through that world with great accomplishment and influence. They are innovators, creators and often communicators. Financial achievement is not the purpose here. Rather, it is achieving relevance in a world largely populated by utterly irrelevant people.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037508_rigged_awakening_consciousness.html#ixzz29ZkVTVlW
I think that makes me a Master. 8)
Being aware that something was amiss (stemming from My waiting for the world My dad promised Me based on His work - offered before it went into black), I worked hard to construct a solution.
Check out My section here under "Special Guests..."
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=163.0
The foundational piece is The End of Entropy, and most of the other posts there spring from that piece.
Mike Adams should probably be regarded as severely mentally ill at this point, in my mind. I was subscribed to his email alerts several years ago. At one point, he had some useful and very positive information; but then he gradually started covering Monsanto and the activities of the FDA.
These days, Adams is a fairly major source of doom porn of various forms; he's even collaborated with Alex Jones on a number of occasions. Usually said doom porn in Adams' case is centered around what at least used to be his usual niche of nutrition, but since teaming up with Jones, he's branched out, to an increasing degree.
With all due respect, Dave, I consider the linked article to also be a good example of what I would normally refer to as doom porn, and I won't be reading it in depth. My level of practical belief in the Law of Attraction has progressed to the point where I now consider the viewing of such material, to potentially be extremely harmful not only to my perspective, but also what actually happens to me, and how my reality is shaped as a result.
Some people consider it important to be informed. I personally do not consider it a legitimate definition of "being informed," to expose myself to hysterical rantings about how the world is supposedly, imminently headed over a cliff.
"An example of information that will no longer be coming through this terminal, is the support of fearful theories."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv7QYokiOMg
No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right
now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on
your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all
of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a
better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year
and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the
world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded,
and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in
peace.
-- Bill Hicks
I don't always remember it; I don't always catch myself. I went off about Joseph Lieberman multiple times in the Gary McKinnon thread. I like to think I'm getting better, however. It's exactly what Bill Hicks said though, guys. It's a choice. A choice to refuse to allow our perspective to be dominated by what seems to be going on out there, and carried with such determination that in the end, we reach a point where what's going on out there, is what we want; not what they do.
Quote from: Littleenki on October 17, 2012, 05:32:31 PM
Before I wax poetic on this subject, I share with you an article which should illicit hearty debate amongst some of us..read this and chime in with your thoughts..then Ill share mine...
http://www.naturalnews.com/037508_rigged_awakening_consciousness.html#ixzz29Bq9eZ16
Cheers!
Le
PIMANDER EDIT: I've added the intro to give the members an idea what it is that you want them to click.
Truly nothing there that surprises Me. Nothing. We need to change this planet - its whole system.
Quote from: petrus4 on October 17, 2012, 05:54:05 PM
No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right
now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on
your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all
of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a
better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year
and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the
world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded,
and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in
peace.
-- Bill Hicks
The man saw the truth. Indeed He did.
QuoteI don't always remember it; I don't always catch myself. I went off about Joseph Lieberman multiple times in the Gary McKinnon thread. I like to think I'm getting better, however. It's exactly what Bill Hicks said though, guys. It's a choice. A choice to refuse to allow our perspective to be dominated by what seems to be going on out there, and carried with such determination that in the end, we reach a point where what's going on out there, is what we want; not what they do.
That is the idea of getting The Abundance Paradigm to the tipping point. Do that and We WILL create it.
I WOULD LOVE to hear everyones thoughts on this video that HAS Taken the World By Storm!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
Even when contemplating "On a nothing is going on level" this is an odd phenomena. The biggest song in the world is from STH Korea with all verses sung in Korean splashed with a bit of English :P
From a marketing perspective its going down in History....
Is this a retalliation from Samsung to Apple though ?
yea the game is rigged,thats why i only play when i know i will win.ive been screwed too many times in my life by shady companies and contractors.
then seeing how ron paul was treated this year was the final straw.i will be a third party for the rest of my life.
i saw reagans trickle down drug war.then clintons 100,000 drug cops and signing the realestate bill that got us in this mess.
then bush2 destroyed a balanced budget and got us in wars we all knew were gonna bankrupt us.now we have a dictator and a locked up congress ,with inflation about to skyrocket.the us and china printing money like there is no end.the race to the bottom.
the only way to win is produce more people, which will starve us all,which will lower immunities,causing more widespread disease.then desparate starving immigrants looking for work will spread the diseases.like we see in the usa right now.mrsa,bedbugs.whooping coff.
Soma... I don't know what to make of Gangnam Style... I do know I prefer Klingon Style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CayMeza487M
I agree Petrus;
QuoteSome people consider it important to be informed. I personally do not consider it a legitimate definition of "being informed," to expose myself to hysterical rantings about how the world is supposedly, imminently headed over a cliff.
But i do tend to read everything, no matter how crazy it is, i have a pretty thick skin y'know ;)
Some of us (by that i mean those here & a few on ATS) know exactly what is happening, and Pimander is right: don't play their game, don't even get angry, just ignore it, and make your own alternative plans.
I used to like AJ, but it does seem that he's more busy with fear-mongering than trying to solve the problem.
We
know there's a problem, we know who, what & why.
We've all seen Endgame,Thrive, Zeitgeist, Jaques Fresco etc. We know what's going on, & a lot worse.
We know what the answer is, passive, then active resistance is the only way.
Now some of you might not like that idea, being passive types, i'm not going to scorn you, in fact i applaud you, but it's not MY way. I would rather fight to the death than let some a$$hole in a suit tell me what to do.
I've been over this a dozen times on ATS & here too. There is no other option, the stakes (our futures) are too high. I have often explained to people that they must find their own path in this.
The fact that we are becoming aware is GOOD.
The fact that most of us don't have a clue is BAD.
The fact that most of us are uninformed, is BAD. Amy has the right idea in that we must first educate people, let them know what's up
& what the choices are......
And i will close with my favourite one-liner: Nobody is useless, everybody can do something :P
All you have to do is figure out what you can do, and go do it!!
QuoteIt's exactly what Bill Hicks said though, guys. It's a choice. A choice to refuse to allow our perspective to be dominated by what seems to be going on out there, and carried with such determination that in the end, we reach a point where what's going on out there, is what we want; not what they do
Eggzactly! Bill Hicks rocks!
He presented it as 'comedy', but it was the TRUTH, & that's why people like him....
Somamech;
It's about gangs, gangsters, & how 'cool' it all is...sad....once the Korean government realise this, it will be made illegal.
Hey, the Korean government might actually do some good for a change, how wierd is that??
You all know, of course, that the US gubmint actually admires Korea & China.
You know why?
Because they have total control over their people... :P
Robo; While that may be true, we have to remember that it's not their fault, they are driven to it, just as we are.
ETA: Klingon style, love it!!
;D
Hehe, Amy, rapping Klingons are what make the world go round!LOL!!!!!
Pimander said...
QuoteNo. Real change, if not due to a catastrophe, will come from someone or an group who plays the game better that the people rigging it OR a person or group they decide to back because it may avert said catastrophe (in other words they are given no choice).
If you don't play at all, the system is still rigged to nail you.
Basically this guy, although yes, Petrus he is a fear monger and doomsayer, is one of the most accurate articles hes posted.
The listing of levels got me, as most people I know are listed as Zombies.
Personally I like to think Im a Master of sorts, but thats all relative to the field and subject at hand, right? Maybe a 2 and a half?LOL!
As for having to have real change, Pimander, I think real change has many portions and areas, some of which are people who do nothing but write, those who build, those who protest, and those who invest monetarily in the previous three.
One category successfully navigated doesnt make one a master. Its an all encompassing package which we aspire to.
I do see some truth to this list, so for me it will make me think a bit more about those who I meet and perhaps define the ones I dont want to deal with during those meetings.
To discard the membership in the system is still better than to pander to it, regardless of how it might alienate those who wish to control our world for their own needs. To blend a bit of pull back, with a little participation is probably the best approach, and thats where Mastery and Enlightenment come in..something this article writer really isnt in my opinion..hes searching through the wrong luggage for the wrong pair of slacks.
He's a number two. :o
A truly enlightened one, is at peace with the world regardless of its issues or surroundings, and that allows one who is to help those who arent.
A Tibetan Monk perhaps?
Cheers!
Le
Hi Dave :)
Well, i used to think i was originally going for an MA (Master of Arts) but i was also trying for ipsissimus major (that;s black magic) but i just like being a Dragon, it's who i am 8)
QuoteOne category successfully navigated doesnt make one a master. Its an all encompassing package which we aspire to.
Absolutely!
QuoteA truly enlightened one, is at peace with the world regardless of its issues or surroundings, and that allows one who is to help those who arent.
A Tibetan Monk perhaps?
Cheers!
Le
Try a Shao-lin monk :P
I've been bleesed to have had a shao-lin master as my teacher the last 2 years...it's helped a lot ;)
Luke in my book youre a master for sure..even enlightened. Not many people Ive met share a passion for knowing as much as all you wonderful folks Ive met here on Pegasus.
Level fours all around! :)
Cheers!
(Still trying to figure out what "oppan" means...)
yes ,i agree they are being forced.
Tesla, cold fusion, Johnson, liberty. I can't sit by and do nothing, I get involved because I can.
Quote from: Littleenki on October 17, 2012, 08:30:22 PM
A truly enlightened one, is at peace with the world regardless of its issues or surroundings, and that allows one who is to help those who arent.
How about one who is at peace with themselves, in full knowledge that conflict is an inevitable part of existence. Surely they are more enlightened?
Perhaps true inner peace only comes to us when we ACCEPT the truth. Acceptance is bliss, NOT IGNORANCE.
QuotePerhaps true inner peace only comes to us when we ACCEPT the truth. Acceptance is bliss, NOT IGNORANCE.
acceptances isn't bliss either..it's just acceptance
all the fuss about everything we fuss about are just pieces of distraction
in finding the true/real reason we are here..now
so first you have accptance
and then...if you work at it or are in just the right place in the moment
you get knowledge
the ah-ha of being here...
then you can begin
sigh
I should have said acceptance comes before bliss to be fair.
And what is it if You accept things - as in saying, "Yup, it really IS like that," and also see a solution? Is acceptance a passive thing? Like, "Yup, it really IS like that. Now I will go be blissful..." Or, having accepted facts, should We then strive to solve problems We see?
'Cause frankly... Once I accepted things, I was not in bliss - I was determined to create changes for the better. I am not in bliss, per se, fighting to bring the opportunity to ALL to pursue Their bliss. I am Self-satisfied, though, as I see the word spread.
"...one who is at peace with themselves, in full knowledge that conflict is an inevitable part of existence. Surely they are more enlightened?"
Was what I said. I stand by it. :)
Ah. I am at peace with Myself, surely. [smile] My whole being is united in the goal of making any conflicts strictly interpersonal - as opposed to regional/national/etc.
This planet is deluded by masters of disinfo. I aim to change that.
I just read the first link, knowing what I know now, I am glad that I am not at a 0 anymore. Alll I used to think about was money and working. It took me losing a lot to realize that we are working as slaves for a piece of paper. We should be enjoying life. Take the nature and what the world provides and what we are doing to it. I work my 9-5 now and i dont take the work home with me anymore. I lost so much time with family and friends just to work of a piece of paper. I am glad I have land that I can be away from people and just take in the real reason why we live. We live becasue earth has allowed us to live here. I tell people this and they think I am crazy but they will not accept the fact things are wrong and want to be sheep and stay on course with working for that piece of paper. Over these last two years I have realized this and have not felt the same like I used to.
I have a very low level of tolerance when it comes to accepting things :) yes, it's a flaw, i never said i was perfect.
I do NOT accept that we still have to burn oil to run our cars.
I do NOT accept that humans can still hurt other humans.
QuoteThis planet is deluded by masters of disinfo. I aim to change that.
You're not alone, Amy, i'm standing right beside you 8)
A 'golden' statement Saturnm :)
I daresay you feel better than you used to, you have found some purpose in your life.
Go for it!!
Quote from: Littleenki on October 17, 2012, 08:30:22 PM
Hehe, Amy, rapping Klingons are what make the world go round!LOL!!!!!
thlingan maH, Dave! ;D
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on October 19, 2012, 11:21:41 AM
I do NOT accept that we still have to burn oil to run our cars.
I do NOT accept that humans can still hurt other humans.
I agree with the sentiment although I would change it to:
It is not right that humans still have to burn oil to run cars.
It is not right for humans to hurt other humans.
Unfortunately they still can. War is also still legal, unfortunately. War is basicall legalised mass murder. Sick but true.
You can accept the way the world is but still want to change it, of course. Many inventors and scientists are examples of this type of person. So are revolutionaries.
Thank You, Luke. Spreading the info to the tipping point is the first step, keeping it in Consciousness, and i surely cannot do it alone. It's nice to know I have help. [smile]
Aah, let's just say i have the right to not accept that it's not right....
???
I know Amy's right, info is the weapon of choice.
Get people informed, KEEP them informed, let them see the choices.
Then maybe they will start to think for themselves.
I'm not really the 'grab a gun & head for the hills' type (well maybe a little, but i've got no gun & the nearest hill is 60 miles away ;) )
Passive resistance is a way of 'not accepting' their control.
Getting to live off the land, generating our own energy etc is another way of 'not accepting' their system.
Energy is still the key issue here.
It's why the wars are still being fought, & why there is so much crap happening to people all over the world.
If we can get energy-independent, that whole system will collapse.
The collapsing part is the problem, i guess that's why we are all here?
Luke, it won't collapse. The cost of things will drop and drop until eventually the effort to collect the penny for (whatever) is more than the penny's worth, and things will be free.
Quote from: Amaterasu on October 19, 2012, 11:28:27 PM
Luke, it won't collapse. The cost of things will drop and drop until eventually the effort to collect the penny for (whatever) is more than the penny's worth, and things will be free.
I like the sound of that, Amy!
Let the neck wringing begin!
Or, cut em off at the pass!LOL!
I think of Walmart, being so proud of how they drop their prices yet not realizing the effect theyre having as the prices drop..also we need to eliminate demand for the real needless products, and center on informing people how they need to buy only what is necessary...and not the useless plastic crap lining the shelves of every store like Walmart.
Can we just live like the old west for a few years now?
Cheers!
Quote from: Littleenki on October 20, 2012, 01:13:33 AM
I think of Walmart, being so proud of how they drop their prices yet not realizing the effect theyre having as the prices drop..also we need to eliminate demand for the real needless products, and center on informing people how they need to buy only what is necessary...and not the useless plastic crap lining the shelves of every store like Walmart.
Let's take this ship to The Abundance Paradigm. That demand for crap will drop naturally as things become free and advertising becomes pointless. Makers of things will begin to build reputation as Their work produces GOOD output, stuff made to last, made useful. With no money, no One is BUYING anything,
QuoteCan we just live like the old west for a few years now?
That's the thing about TAP... If that's how YOU want to live - You can live that way. Others, like Me, who want to see an egalitarian technocracy - with robots to do the dishes and clean the commode - can do so too. None of Us is confined to what someOne ELSE thinks is optimal. [smile]
Right on Amy!
Heres my robot ....
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTgwODYzOTg2NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjg3ODQ5._V1._SY317_CR2,0,214,317_.jpg)
Cheers!
I really love your optimisim, Amy, but i can't see it happening without some kind of transition period
Of course, as the amount of 'informed' people grows, so will the 'informing' process.
I'm not going too deep into the morals, political or social issues, i'm going to concentrate on what needs to happen in a real mechanical sense.
So far there are 2 practical ideas that can help this change come about real fast ;)
One is free (or at least in this sense, self-generated) energy.
The other is as you said, durability & simplicity of machines.
I remember posting about the 100-year-product company which makes everything from cars, tv's fridges, you name it.
Each product is guaranteed for 100 years. If, in the unlikely event of a failiure, the machine will be replaced (free of charge, since transport won't cost zip) by the company.
Now, the more access 'the company' has to materials, the cheaper it's products will get, this will spell the end of cheap products with built-in obsolescence. This is the first step towards a resource based economy, once the company has all the resources, it can direct them & the products to where they are needed[/u] using cheap robotic transport.
The 100-year products are of course designed in such a way that all parts can be easily replaced, updated etc.
Stage 3:
Now we've had the time & resources & shared knoweledge, we will be able to tackle the bigger problems like ZPE, antigravity, matter manipulation etc..
Asimov saw all of this, the pitfalls as well as the peaks...his prediction for us in the next 10'000 years may be uncannily accurate ::)
ETA typical of this conundrum is my espresso machine >:(
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.msg42487#msg42487 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.msg42487#msg42487)
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on October 20, 2012, 09:29:23 PM
I really love your optimisim, Amy, but i can't see it happening without some kind of transition period
That is exactly what I have just been trying to say. ;)
Quote from: Pimander on October 20, 2012, 08:10:10 PM
First you need awareness and THE MEANS to be energy independent. But in the transition, to anything resembling an era of abundance for most, you have to be able to engage politically to run things and make the technology and knowledge available to the millions of people currently out of reach. Awareness is beyond most of the millions of people in Europe, Japan and North America yet.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=604.msg42471#msg42471
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on October 20, 2012, 09:29:23 PM
I really love your optimisim, Amy, but i can't see it happening without some kind of transition period
The transition period is that period where the the awareness, having reached the tipping point and the tech having surfaced, leads Us to promote and finance retrofits and creation of FE devices. The cost of things will diminish in this transition. Somewhere in the middle We will also finance roboticizing all work no One or not enough People want to do. Doesn't matter how much these things cost, since money will become obsolete through these efforts.
QuoteOf course, as the amount of 'informed' people grows, so will the 'informing' process.
Indeed. And eventually We will reach the tipping point...
QuoteI'm not going too deep into the morals, political or social issues, i'm going to concentrate on what needs to happen in a real mechanical sense.
That's where I'm going too. [smile] Though I do stress the three Laws...
QuoteSo far there are 2 practical ideas that can help this change come about real fast ;)
One is free (or at least in this sense, self-generated) energy.
The other is as you said, durability & simplicity of machines.
I remember posting about the 100-year-product company which makes everything from cars, tv's fridges, you name it.
Each product is guaranteed for 100 years. If, in the unlikely event of a failiure, the machine will be replaced (free of charge, since transport won't cost zip) by the company.
Now, the more access 'the company' has to materials, the cheaper it's products will get, this will spell the end of cheap products with built-in obsolescence. This is the first step towards a resource based economy, once the company has all the resources, it can direct them & the products to where they are needed[/u] using cheap robotic transport.
The 100-year products are of course designed in such a way that all parts can be easily replaced, updated etc.
Stage 3:
Now we've had the time & resources & shared knoweledge, we will be able to tackle the bigger problems like ZPE, antigravity, matter manipulation etc..
Asimov saw all of this, the pitfalls as well as the peaks...his prediction for us in the next 10'000 years may be uncannily accurate ::)
ETA typical of this conundrum is my espresso machine >:(
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.msg42487#msg42487 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.msg42487#msg42487)
I don't see this as necessary in transition. Once FE is "outed," We can spend money all We want - since money will become moot once all energy costs are removed.