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General Category => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Eighthman on October 19, 2012, 02:59:40 AM

Title: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Eighthman on October 19, 2012, 02:59:40 AM
American Kabuki posted two stories about huge ammo dumps in the US and Russia blowing up within days of each other.  ATS mentions the Louisiana explosion and strange stories about what caused it.

I just got banned from GLP when I reported this stuff. (no kidding)

Eighthman
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Amaterasu on October 19, 2012, 03:15:46 AM
Weird things are happening.  All KINDS of rumors flying on the explosions!

As for GLP...  Heh.  Better keep M'mouth closed.  LOL!
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: biggles on October 19, 2012, 03:45:26 AM
Quote from: Eighthman on October 19, 2012, 02:59:40 AM
American Kabuki posted two stories about huge ammo dumps in the US and Russia blowing up within days of each other.  ATS mentions the Louisiana explosion and strange stories about what caused it.

I just got banned from GLP when I reported this stuff. (no kidding)

Eighthman

And what does that tell you.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: robomont on October 19, 2012, 05:02:43 AM
yea i live an hour away.first the news was reporting it as a meteor.they have dropped the story on the local news.explosystems was the contractor in charge.i did a lookup and found a lawsuit where they brag about their safety record.actually though ,this is their first explosive problem.probly payback, using haarp.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: ottawa rogue on October 24, 2012, 03:00:49 AM
Looks like Khartoum just had one go up also....
http://news.yahoo.com/fire-breaks-explosion-sudans-capital-215055193.html
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Littleenki on October 24, 2012, 03:06:33 AM
Another one, eh Ottawa Rogue? Wow, it seems that someone is having a bad karma experience, and perhaps this is a sign of things to come, eh?

I heard the story about a meteor being responsible for the one near Robomont, wouldnt that be a trip...remember the meteors that suppsedly started the fires in Colorado earlier this year?

Damn, I shouldve gotten a meteorology degree, I might understand this stuff more... :o

Cheers!
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: robomont on October 24, 2012, 03:55:13 AM
they showed an overview.blew the roof completely off a buried bunker.looked allmost like a crater.like all of it went off at once.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Eighthman on October 28, 2012, 12:13:06 AM
Check this out:

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Declassified%3A_Predator_Drone_Turns_Itself_On_At_Military_Base/22238/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Bizarre behavior in drone weapons.  Is there a pattern developing here?  I thought John Kettler was nuts when he reported weirdness in drone systems.  Maybe he was correct. 
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: petrus4 on October 28, 2012, 12:52:04 AM
Interesting.  Does this remind anyone of anything? ;)

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Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Pimander on October 28, 2012, 01:02:29 AM
Still want everything done by robots do we folks?

One psychopathic robot encounter from death.  Drones are robots.....
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: petrus4 on October 28, 2012, 01:23:47 AM
Quote from: Pimander on October 28, 2012, 01:02:29 AM
Still want everything done by robots do we folks?

One psychopathic robot encounter from death.  Drones are robots.....

There's a difference between desiring the use of robotics, and desiring the attempted development of human level artificial intelligence.  Most of the people designing these systems are arrogant fools, to put it bluntly.  Good software design adheres to universal law to the same extent as anything else.  If, however, you have systems which are designed by psychopaths, then the result can be nothing other than psychopathic itself.

In other words, robots themselves are not the problem.  Robots designed by evil, arrogant, warmongering people who have no business working in that area in the first place, are the problem.  There is a reason why, more than anything else, robots should never be used in anything remotely resembling a military context; and that is because a robot is a force multiplier.  Anything that a human can do, a robot can amplify.

If we do not want to court suicide, then robotics and war as general concepts, must be recognised as being mutually exclusive.  War in the context of two individuals settling their differences with swords, is developmentally legitimate, if still undesirable.  War in the context of nuclear weapons which can potentially destroy the entire species, or robots which can do the same, is not.

Before you would condemn robotics as a whole, Pimander, I would encourage you to read Eric Raymond's book, The Art of UNIX Programming.  When you have done so, I would then invite you to reconsider the question of whether robotics as an entire branch of science needs to be done away with, or whether instead, we simply have to ensure that psychopaths are not permitted to take part in the process.

I am an advocate of the use and development of robots.  I am also, however, an advocate of (as one example) the deranged animal which was depicted as having created the robot David in the film Artificial Intelligence, being executed in a public, brutal, and decidedly inhumane manner.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Eighthman on October 28, 2012, 01:35:57 AM
"I for one welcome our new computer overlords"  - from Jeopardy

I am intrigued by Kurzweil's opinion that robots promise a deeper interest in ethics by people because they will have to program such into these systems.

There was also a LOT of weirdness reported about the F-22.  Are ET's going beyond screwing with nukes?



Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: robomont on October 28, 2012, 01:56:37 AM
arent we just advanced organic robots with customizable programming?
should we be mad at our creator?ie. our parents.
do i hear siggy freud saying something ?
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Eighthman on October 28, 2012, 01:06:50 AM
I suspect that Jung is way more connected to stuff on this forum than siggy.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: Amaterasu on November 25, 2012, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Pimander on October 28, 2012, 01:02:29 AM
Still want everything done by robots do we folks?

One psychopathic robot encounter from death.  Drones are robots.....

May I point out that drones are designed - and equipped! - to kill.  BIG diff from a robot that cleans the bathroom.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: ottawa rogue on November 25, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
it seems like there's been a lot of talk of drones lately.  the one i'm hearing of lately is the one owned by the animal rights group tha got shot down at a clay pigeon shoot.  this is the kind of stuff that's going to be more common over the next few years.  and eventually someone will take the  next step with it.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: robomont on November 26, 2012, 05:58:41 AM
in texas its against the law to harass a hunter.
i just wish i had a goose gun so i too could shoot down dron..es.
we could have boon and crockett said standards and a point system.
this could really take off as a sport.
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: zorgon on November 26, 2012, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: ottawa rogue on November 25, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
... the one owned by the animal rights group tha got shot down at a clay pigeon shoot. 

Animal rights groups are now worried about clay pidgins?   :o

::)
Title: Re: Ammo Dumps Blowing Up?
Post by: ottawa rogue on November 26, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
Dude, there is no reasoning with some people