Pegasus Research Consortium

Is the Earth Quarantined?
by Annalee Newitz

QuoteWhy haven't we met aliens yet? And why aren't we sending rockets all over the solar system? There is only one plausible explanation. Earth is being quarantined! A combination of higher alien civilizations and our own Earth-based military forces are working together to keep the Earth contained and neutralized. The reasons why they would do this are obvious, but where is the evidence?

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QuoteBelow, we've got enough truly true facts to get your conspiracy engines revved up to maximum.

1. We have been located in a backwater part of the galactic rim.

To keep Earth inhabitants away from the rest of the universe community, our planet was stuck way out in the boondocks at the rim of a second-rate galaxy. Obviously only a higher alien intelligence could have done this, to prevent humans from leaking out everywhere and finding all the cool shit in the universe.

2. Space debris is a shield to keep us from hearing alien broadcasts.

You've heard that there are thousands of pieces of space junk orbiting Earth, posing a danger to orbiting spacecraft and creating a haze of garbage around the planet. Recently the Chinese government created infinitely more space trash by shooting one of its satellites, scattering its shattered body into orbit. What could be the possible reason for leaving all this junk in orbit, instead of cleaning it up? Obviously, our governments are using the junk as a deflection shield to prevent alien messages and craft from getting through. And this suits the aliens just fine, since they're quarantining us anyway.

3. Space-based weapons prevent aliens from wanting to bond with us.

According to Alfred Webre, a Canadian futurist and author of the recent book Exopolitics:

    Star Wars and the militarization of space is part of the information war against the integration with Universe society. Star Wars is an "inside code word" for this war among the military planners. The issue is whether our space technology will be in accord with Universal principles, or controlled by a military empire. The USA will ultimately suffer ignominious defeat by Universe society should it persist as a space military power.

Well, that pretty much covers it.

4. JPL scientists who are in on the quarantine efforts helped perpetuate the myths that were reported in Wired about how we could "never achieve interstellar travel."

Why don't they want us to believe in interstellar travel? Why? These are space scientists, dammit — doesn't it strike you as odd that they are saying we shouldn't go to space?

5. NASA's launch of a suborbital rocket fails.

Today NASA launched a suborbital rocket, but had to shoot it out of the sky due to alleged "launch failure." Really? Could this actually be an effort to discourage suborbital rockets, which might break through the space debris and catch sight of the Universe society? As one blogger points out, NASA already knows about aliens. Thus, they're the perfect organization to make it seem as if there were "problems" on a rocket that was about to run into alien vessels.

6. Large Hadron Collider.

Seriously — need we say more? Any alien civilization worth its salt would know that when we start beaming subatomic particles through that giant, Swiss magnetic loop that the Terrible Events are about to begin. Stay the hell away from Earth when that happens.

7. Project Bluebook closed.

In the 1950s and 60s, the Air Force created Project Bluebook, an investigative project to figure out what all those UFOs were. Despite the fact that people continue to see UFOs every day, the project was shut down in 1969. Why? Was that the year that the government learned about the Quarantine and decided to pull the wool over our eyes?

8. Twelve missions to Mars failed en route to the planet.

Sure we have some satellites orbiting Mars now, and three robots on the surface doing measurements. But they're only in the quarantined areas. Whenever a satellite or spacecraft has tried to go near certain off-limits parts of the planet, they've mysteriously disappeared. Traces of them are never found again, even by the satellites that are supposedly photographing the planet in such minute detail that they can see this hunk of ice.

9. Global warming makes planet more comfortable for everybody.

Little-discussed fact about global warming: It will make all the least-inhabitable regions of the planet into a tropical paradise. Climate change is basically a massive, multinational conspiracy to get everyone so comfy on Earth that they never want to go to ultra-cold Mars or the even colder reaches of deep space. It's good when people believe they actually CHOSE to be quarantined, isn't it?

10. Fly Me to the Moon

This movie about flies stowing away on a moon rocket was actually a government-sponsored plot to make traveling offworld seem so awful that nobody would ever want to do it again. In the face of such compelling evidence, you cannot deny the TRUTH. Somebody — or something — doesn't want us to leave the planet.

We're being . . . quarantined!!!

Is the Earth Quarantined??? (http://io9.com/conspiracy-theory/)

Buried somewhere deep on Alpha Tango Spookz is a thread by a banned member that went by  'doghead'; they maintained that they were in someway affiliated with Pine Gap and that the Earth was either indeed under quarantine or in essence a prison planet, claimed to have proof that we are ringed in by a web of surveilance satelites placed there by 'others...

SO claimed that 'Doghead' was a former member perpetuating a hoax, made the same claim about 'Dark Knight'...

Sleeper pretty much puts forth the same info, that we are not allowed to leave...

What I want to know is the requirements to be eligible for parole...


seeker

Judging from the info here Seeker..all we have to do is croak to get off the planet.
I wonder what it takes to ascend through all that junk? ;)

Quote from: Littleenki on October 21, 2012, 01:31:20 PM
Judging from the info here Seeker..all we have to do is croak to get off the planet.
I wonder what it takes to ascend through all that junk? ;)

Greetings LeDave:

Ask Matrix, if you really want to know the truth and can handle it.    ;)

We are somewhat surprised that he is not here by now.


Peace Love Light

tfw   (http://serve.mysmiley.net/animals/animal0028.gif) (//http://)

Liberty & Equality or Revolution

 ;D

NOW this is a job for the RV folk....

com' on guys..step up to the plate and swing

Winnebago Drivers, what can they do about it?

:C)
FB!

Steven Greer claims that we have a few interstellar craft but Aliens are standing guard and won't let us leave.  Kinda goes along with those Neil Armstrong rumors about the moon.

I like the alien 'John BigBootee' in Buckaroo Banzai:  "It's not my planet, monkey-boy".

Whatever Annalee Newitz is smoking, I want some. ;)

Quote from: thorfourwinds on October 21, 2012, 02:26:23 PM
Greetings LeDave:

Ask Matrix, if you really want to know the truth and can handle it.    ;)

We are somewhat surprised that he is not here by now.


Peace Love Light

tfw   (http://serve.mysmiley.net/animals/animal0028.gif) (//http://)
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Greetings Thor!
Im ready when you are brother, just honk the horn on the chariot as you drive by!:-)

I'd agree with Petrus...it might be worth taking up drugs again!LOL!!!

Cheers!

Google "UFO Lou", "Sleeper".....Or ask John..Apparently renegade aliens keep our souls trapped on the "prison Planet".....working off karma? Organic Batteries in an AI created world? WTFK.

If you were an ET, wouldn't you quarantine this place?

The Galactic Federation probably thought about it, looked at our Presidential race and said, "Hell, yes it's quarantined"

Quarantine is an interesting idea.  Do we have a door somewhere with a big "Qurantined" sign posted on it?  My mom told me a story about her house being quarantined when she was growiing up in Hanna.  It was circa 1930.  I think they were quarantined for chickenpox.

Shasta

The topic of discussion is whether or not we are in quarantine, not whether or not the author of the article is using drugs, and any inferred allegations or remarks are uncalled for; if you disagree, say so and state your reasons; do not impugn the author.


seeker

I think if We can get The Abundance Paradigm going...ET will see We CAN integrate.  As long as We continue keeping virtually all of Our numbers in poverty, using Them as weapons against One anOther, ensuring wage/debt slavery, and other ugly practices - which are NOT representative of the average Human - We will be seen as inferior, unable to control Ourselves.

So...  There's another imperative.  Along with ending poverty, starvation, oppression, wage/debt slavery, and WAR.

Quote from: Eighthman on October 21, 2012, 02:50:50 PM
Steven Greer claims that we have a few interstellar craft but Aliens are standing guard and won't let us leave.  Kinda goes along with those Neil Armstrong rumors about the moon.

Greer got that from ME  I was the one that broke the story about the Naval Space Command that everyone is cloning and taking credit for :P

Be nice if they sent royalties :P

I gave Ya gold, z.  Wish it would by dinner...

Quote from: petrus4 on October 21, 2012, 02:55:56 PM
Whatever Annalee Newitz is smoking, I want some. ;)

Totally out of line...

And I happen to agree with her assessment. Ever since I read Ingo Swan's "Penetration" it is obvious to me that we are under house arrest. If the TOP RVer who invented the CIA program in the first place cannot penetrate the barrier than how can we?

Since Roswell we have not ONE shred of proof of Alien contact... sure stories, rumors and charlatans galore. Channelers that say the GFL is here but they might as well be channeling LOKI for the results they show.


There will be no disclosure...

There will be no intervention...

We are on our own until we can prove to them that we are worth something

We were warned in the 50's... you thought that "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (original) was just a movie? Well guess again.  SERPO was completely muddied up so no actual truth of that event comes to light above the BS created by none other than Bill Ryan of Project Camelot... your best bet of getting the truth is to watch "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"

Not counting the Plsama Criiters that everyone is calling "UFO's" there are very few real 'encounters' these days  VERY FEW... and since most of you refuse to accept CRITTERS, a naturally existing LOCAL lifeform as explanation for the myriad of glowies and orbs, your all DOOMED to a dead end belief that the Alien Galactic Brotherhood is going to come down any day now and save us all from ourselves

Heck If I was THEM I would get popcorn and watch as we wipe ourselves out... then clean up the mess after and take over this new Blue Marble and turn it into a vacation spot. After all its a nice outpost and rest stop out here in the middle of no where

As to drug talk... PRC is NOT a drug forum. Please bear that in mind in the future

Thanks

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 21, 2012, 07:50:33 PM
I gave Ya gold, z.  Wish it would by dinner...

Don't need GOLD  need MONEY :P

The ORI need to get their DUES

So today I will get that MONEY thread started  really I will :D

Quote from: Littleenki on October 21, 2012, 01:31:20 PM
Judging from the info here Seeker..all we have to do is croak to get off the planet.
I wonder what it takes to ascend through all that junk? ;)

Ascending through the junk is no issue as the junk is only on the physical plane

However I would like to invite Ingo Swann over here and ask him what blocks he ran into on the ethereal plane that were so strong he felt his life in danger if he didn't go back

As to Ascension

I find it truly remarkable how many New Agers and Web Surfers are convinced that they are READY for Ascension without ever having lifted a finger to prepare.  They all think 2012 will be a magic free pass into the next plane.

Hate to burst their bubble, but it doesn't work that way.... no free ride... many lifetimes of hard work is needed to prepare. You don't get to go from Kindergarten to University over night

And if you did, of what use would that be? You wouldn't have the requires and learned skills to cope at that level

Sorry no mass Ascension either...

::)

If the channelers are channeling Loki, that would explain a lot.  They'e channeling a gray and white cat wjo is probably sending an endless loop message saying "rub my tummy."

Shasta

Quote from: sky otter on October 21, 2012, 02:37:05 PM
;D

NOW this is a job for the RV folk....

If you haven't read Ingo Swan's "Penetration" I suggest you do.... then you will see why RVers and Astral Travellers cannot be of help. I was booted off TWO Lobsang Rampa forums for daring to ask for someone to go out and have a look at Venus for me.

They were PISSED at me for having the audacity to challenge their abilities.  How DARE I doubt them with a stupid test.

The one board I was banned immediately, the other I got to state that it was a serious request, that I figured where better to find someone to do this than a Rampa board where all these Astral Travelers were telling their experience.
Well I was then told "Do it yourself"  to wich I replied, "How do you know I haven't? I came here seeking for confirmation and a different set of 'eyes'

Well no one replied to me after that

I guess in the end they proved their own abilities. The last note was from the Mod of the second forum who said that "Its a persona experience, it just happens... we don't get to chose where to go"

Well that answers that :P

For those who don't know the Rampa story, just take my word for it, if followers of him cannot do it... then no one can

Quote from: andolin on October 21, 2012, 03:15:53 PM
Google "UFO Lou", "Sleeper".....Or ask John..Apparently renegade aliens keep our souls trapped on the "prison Planet".....working off karma? Organic Batteries in an AI created world? WTFK.

To Sleeper you should listen, hmmm?  Yes?  {{{heavy Yoda accents}}}

Quote from: Shasta56 on October 21, 2012, 03:52:41 PM
Do we have a door somewhere with a big "Qurantined" sign posted on it?

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First we have to learn about our Real selves, NOT the "Human Primate".    :D

The "Human Primate" is what Our Real Selves are Experiencing....

A young baby can't crawl then walk unless it first discovers its body; esp its feet, legs,
arms and Hands and learns how to control these. Social skills also have to be learned.
(I'm still learning)

So it is with us in the "Earth Program" as we undergo Metamorphosis (of the Processing System
which ALL is manifested IN and through.)

This takes some Thousand years IN the "Program" Only.

From our Perspective "Outside" the Program (Earth) involves a very short period of time
IF "Time" in fact exists..

The Truth of the matter is, our "Processing System" (individual Processing System) is undergoing
an "Upgrade" during our experience.

So there is an Intelligent reason why the Earth experience is what it is.

It has nothing at all to do with Human development, Success or Economics, nor even so called spiritual Morality
or anything remotely like that, in the Earth Program.

As ALL is prewritten (Including The boundaries of Choice)
it is Impossible for the Species to wipe out the planet.

We are Slaves to the "Written Programs", which govern our Experiences in the Earth Program.

Yes we are like that baby in its playpen...   :D

It keeps us within the Experience until we grow up, i.e learn about our NEW "Processing System",
then we are shown the World "Outside" the "Playpen".

We are at all different stages of development in our playpen.

While some are being shown the world "Outside" our playpen and others have just been
placed in their Playpens.

So the Earth is really our Playpen as ALL of us are like babies.

The Universe Program is like our House, in a World which is Non Dimensional involving Infinite "Concepts".

For some the next step is learning about their NEW or "Upgraded" Processing System.

Ingo Swan's "Penetration"...will check it out

how long ago was it and has he tried since are  questions that jump to mind right off

i will say this here in public..not to create anything but a statement
i have tired not to read or watch too much of what other's idea of stuff is
only so that what i find and have found can be compared to it later

(so, dang it your ands soma's constant reference to the ori  is over my head..are they good or bad..???.. sheeeeet)
of course some stuff  couldn't be avoided (i do luv the starwars stuff :D)  but i tried
i think at this age i am ..later is probably now and catch up is due
so that book is on my list for the next book storre trip


otherwise i agree with you that no one is jumping in/down or otherwise
to save our sorry assets
and dillusion on that  ~ is rampant..new agers, religion, sci-fi..it's a great angle
and a way for folk to avoid checking  themselves for who and where they are
and takin responsibility for their own ass ets

sigh


just read your post Matrix and i agree.. i would word it other
but and i do think
it can be individual growth as vs. group or both..
some have figured it out...some never will
hugs

Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2012, 07:55:46 PM
Don't need GOLD  need MONEY :P

The ORI need to get their DUES

So today I will get that MONEY thread started  really I will :D

Y'know if I had money NOW, I would give it to You.  I appreciate the work You do keeping this forum going.

BTW...  No comment on My observation that implementing TAP would provide Us with a better image?

I beseech thee in the bowels of Christ, think ye may be mistaken.

I grew up in a highly charged moralistic atmosphere and as I passed half a century of life, I considered that such a view must have little to do with the cosmos.  There's too much 'creation' that's just horrid - like guinea worms and Tyrannosaurus Rex to allow otherwise. So, the idea of paying our dues, well .. I dunno.
I think a Channeler would say the exception to the Prime Directive is if we ask for help.

OTOH, I do recall some RV'ers saying that they would get shut down or booted out if they got discovered viewing aliens in their native environment.

"They" seem to be interested enough to interfere with nuclear weapons.  I don't think the explanation involves us punching holes in their dimension or they would have prevented above ground testing especially the absurd "Tsar Bomba" the Soviets did.

"Sleeper" did say that our bright ideas - really come from other intelligences. Somebody is helping. (!?) 

If I met an ET, I'd say, "Look, what did you expect from a species that lacks telepathy? I mean, c'mon, considering that huge handicap, we've done pretty well".

Eighthman

QuoteIf I met an ET, I'd say, "Look, what did you expect from a species that lacks telepathy? I mean, c'mon, considering that huge handicap, we've done pretty well".

Indeed...

We lack in the art of Quote;

Quotetelepathy?

because of our lack of "Knowledge", (ignorance) re. our "Processing System", of our Real Selves (LIFE) being in the baby stage.   :D

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which is Normal considering the stage we are at...  :D

But that will mature over the next 200 years or so.

No One is going anywhere !

We just experience one "Chapter" of a Book (life Experience) after the other.

I guess everyone here could make a thought on this subject, but...................directly and purposely "quarantined", as has been suggested, I think not. At least from known happenings, that is not totally obvious.

Among other things, we have two "Vegers" (Voyager spacecraft) on their way to the stars, and are collecting data along the way. Voyager I is at or near the edge of interstellar space, and Voyager II is close behind.

And there seems to be nothing keeping us from going to Mars anytime we wish.

But, in my way of thinking about it, we are pretty much to blame ourselves, for any actual "quarantine". Any real knowledge and understanding on "How to do it", is pretty limited. We still struggle with simple launch vehicles, and with most of the other just very basic stuff, necessary to even the exploration of our solar system. And to even think about a human launch to the stars is completely outside the known capabilities for even doing that.

Yes, you could spell/summarize those challenges as being synonymous with "quarantine" I guess.

Speaking of Voyager, here is 2 links to little pieces that shows that at least some assume that we are not actually physically quarantined (if there is anything we can believe regarding actual space travel).

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/voyager_heliosphere.html

http://phys.org/news/2012-10-voyager-left-solar.html

Is "mooning" considered a social skill?  My two year granddaughter mooned me the other day.  On purpose.

I like the new look Miss Otter.

Shasta

Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2012, 10:18:12 AM
Is the Earth Quarantined?
by Annalee Newitz

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Is the Earth Quarantined??? (http://io9.com/conspiracy-theory/)

This subject has been brought up many, many times in the past. 

Humans are bound by karma but then again we hear about the jump room and the Naval Space program.

So who are you going to believe.

But if y'all think the Serpo thing happened (humans going off world for a visit) doesn't that contradict the quarantine?

and going in the other direction,  couldn't it be argued that Disclosure is a critical part of our evolution such that Helpful Aliens would plan to get'r done? 

QuoteBut if y'all think the Serpo thing happened (humans going off world for a visit) doesn't that contradict the quarantine?

Not at all; Babies are taken out of their Playpens at different times.

Some even find their own way out.   :D

i.e. the "Earth Program" being the playpen. The rest of the "Universe Program" is Outside the "Playpen".

Quoteand going in the other direction,  couldn't it be argued that Disclosure is a critical part of our evolution such that Helpful Aliens would plan to get'r done?

Indeed;
That will happen at some point in our Individual (Mind i.e. LIFE Not "Flesh") development, but slowly does it;
Step by Step.

Evolution ?  Well sort of, but involving "Metamorphosis".

There are many here now that could find their way out if they only would open their intellect, let go of the grip the physical and material has on them, and look within;
the ancient mystery schools all had a sign over the door:"Know Thyself."

I remember bits and pieces I was shown of numerous lives I have experienced, both here on this ball of wet rock and many before it; ascension is not a scheduled group happening or event, but an individual experience that is achieved and earned thru experiences; the journey is long, the soul eternal; time s but a facet of this playpen as my brother Matrix describes it...

disclosure? again it is not a group happening or event; I agree with Zorgon, pay close attention to "The Day The Earth Stood Still."
I have the original; if I can figure out how to do it I will rip a copy and perhaps Sir Zorgon can load it into the archives for all...


seeker

For those unfamiliar with Ingo Swann here is a link to his site:

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Superpowers.html


seeker

Quote from: the seeker on October 22, 2012, 03:09:52 AM
There are many here now that could find their way out if they only would open their intellect, let go of the grip the physical and material has on them, and look within;
the ancient mystery schools all had a sign over the door:"Know Thyself."

I remember bits and pieces I was shown of numerous lives I have experienced, both here on this ball of wet rock and many before it; ascension is not a scheduled group happening or event, but an individual experience that is achieved and earned thru experiences; the journey is long, the soul eternal; time s but a facet of this playpen as my brother Matrix describes it...

disclosure? again it is not a group happening or event; I agree with Zorgon, pay close attention to "The Day The Earth Stood Still."
I have the original; if I can figure out how to do it I will rip a copy and perhaps Sir Zorgon can load it into the archives for all...


seeker

Saw the original more than once; are you referencing the speech he gave before he time off home with Garth.

It was Gort, robot's name Gort in that film.

Quote from: biggles on October 22, 2012, 03:37:59 AM
It was Gort, robot's name Gort in that film.

Yes, Biggies; a warning, and details of how things are...

Quote from: the seeker on October 22, 2012, 03:09:52 AM


disclosure? again it is not a group happening or event; I agree with Zorgon, pay close attention to "The Day The Earth Stood Still."

My dear Seeker,

This is not the first time I have heard your words concerning
"The Day The Earth Stood Still".

You have my attention.

bts

It's been WAYYY too long since I have seen The Day the Earth Stood Still...  WAAAAAAYYYYYY too long.  I hardly remember it at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfpSXI8_UpY

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 21, 2012, 06:21:43 PM
I think if We can get The Abundance Paradigm going...ET will see We CAN integrate.

Amy, can we not make every thread one about "The Abundance Paradigm".

I  know you can link it to anything.  I can link John Lear's Toes to everything but I won't as people will think I'm a broken record. :)

Seeker is right..the movie dtess holds some keys to understanding what it will take to change humanitys downward spiral...no easy feat.
The answers are obvious but certain folks who benefit from the status quo dont want us to ever hear them.

Le

Regarding the O.P.
This is a joke, right?
It's even worse than my 'coincidence' thread :)

Miss Newitz cobbled a lot of nonsense together, it seems ::)
Yes, i agree we probably are in quarantine, but not for the reasons in the OP
C'mon, they moved earth here, kinda 'out of the way'...
Really? ???

QuoteIf you were an ET, wouldn't you quarantine this place?

Er....Yes

QuoteQuarantine is an interesting idea.  Do we have a door somewhere with a big "Qurantined" sign posted on it?

Yes, there's a banner 5000 miles long on the backside of the moon, which is always facing away from us...
It says:

QuoteNot counting the Plsama Criiters that everyone is calling "UFO's" there are very few real 'encounters' these days  VERY FEW... and since most of you refuse to accept CRITTERS, a naturally existing LOCAL lifeform as explanation for the myriad of glowies and orbs, your all DOOMED to a dead end belief that the Alien Galactic Brotherhood is going to come down any day now and save us all from ourselves

I believe in the possibility of critters, there's a lot of evidence for that, doesn't have to be intelligent to be a critter, does it?
I don't think the Alien Galactic Brotherhood gives a rat's fart about this little planet, except it's got plenty of water, some nice beaches.
Oh darn, those pesky humans just spilt oil on the beaches!
OK it'l be Centaurus next year kids, i swear it... :)

Ah, hi Matrix, glad you could join us :)
I'll just shut up now & read the rest of the thread....

OK let's talk serious.
We know there's a lot happening up there that we don't know about, we know our own gubmint is involved. We know they are working overtime to distract us:
"Gee look, another terrorist attack!"
"What? Lights in the sky? We don't have time for that, these are terrorists here"

RV'ing?
I only did it once, having just passed out & stopped breathing.
I had the distinct impression that i could go anywhere i pleased, on earth or off it
At the time, i went & mooched around northeast Scotland.
I had no idea of 'time'. I had no sensation of any other 'spirit' or 'intellect' around me, nothing.
It was just me, and the universe.
Quite an experience, i can tell you :)

I'm also not unaware of all the Big Disaster End OF World Alien Attack type films that are making the rounds (yet again).
The accent on aliens is a bit stronger this time, it's not like ET or those other films with cuddly fluffy aliens, remember Alf?
No, these aliens are more like Klingons on steroids, Predators. Flesh eating 8 foot monsters.

You really think such a race also had the refined intellect to build space ships, fly 10 zillion lightyears & use them to go hunt Arnie Schwanzenegger in a jungle?

Greys are far more believable, and i do believe in them. There may be 100's of races out there, most of them carbon-based humanoids like us.
The only thing i would like to know is, what are they up to?
The Greys are clearly breaking this 'quarantine', they must know it's against the rules.
(I'm assuming the Galactic Brotherhood have a Prime Directive for this sort of thing)

Still reading...

Quote from: Pimander on October 22, 2012, 11:45:31 AM
Amy, can we not make every thread one about "The Abundance Paradigm".

I  know you can link it to anything.  I can link John Lear's Toes to everything but I won't as people will think I'm a broken record. :)

Excuse Me, Pim...but I do think that in the question of quarantined Humanity, TAP is VERY salient.  In fact, if We ARE quarantined, it may be the best way out.  JL's toes will not free Humanity.

And, lest You fail to know, the ONLY thing I live for is spreading the info and KEEPING IT IN CONSCIOUSNESS.  Shall I be banned here for speaking of it, too?

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 22, 2012, 06:49:46 PM
Shall I be banned here for speaking of it, too?

If you make it the subject of every thread then it is a problem.

No you clearly have not been banned for posting on it roughly 2500 times.  However, there are other topics, ideas and members here.  I'm asking you to bear that in mind.

In much the same way that the majority of members didn't want to read about mind control, TTBrown or Mikado in every single thread, they may not want to hear about TAP in every thread.  That is what I meant about broken record.  People don't listen to them do they?

QuoteThere will be no disclosure...

There will be no intervention...

We are on our own until we can prove to them that we are worth something

Now THAT i can agree with!

Quotefrom the Mod of the second forum who said that "Its a persona experience, it just happens... we don't get to chose where to go"

That i do not believe, from my own experience.

Aah, Matrix, i do love your posts.
Would you say that this 'program' running for thousands of years is our REAL evolution, and would you agree that we are (maybe) at the point of transition from a Type 0 (terrestrial) civilisation to a Type 1 (interplanetary)?

Maybe that's what all the ET activity really is, maybe they all bought tickets to come & watch.... ;)
What i mean is, they know about the 'program', and maybe they are curious as to how we handle our discovery of it....

QuoteSo there is an Intelligent reason why the Earth experience is what it is.

Could be, could be.

Quoteit is Impossible for the Species to wipe out the planet.

I DO hope you're right in that!
But being humans, and knowing what we are capable of, i still have my doubts.
Maybe we would be the first 'advanced' species to wipe itself out, intentionally.
That would sell a lot of tickets ;)
food for thought, that one ::)

QuoteFor some the next step is learning about their NEW or "Upgraded" Processing System.

That seems to me to be the most logical step.
Accept it for what it is, try to understand it, experiment if possible, & above all, learn.
So maybe i can't intentionally RV, no more than i can bend a spoon or levitate a pencil by concentrating on it.
(Of course i tried it, we all do at one time or another, don't we?)
Maybe we don't try enough ::)

Quote"Sleeper" did say that our bright ideas - really come from other intelligences. Somebody is helping. (!?) 

If I met an ET, I'd say, "Look, what did you expect from a species that lacks telepathy? I mean, c'mon, considering that huge handicap, we've done pretty well".

Eighthman

There was much talk of this in Linda's forum. We generally agreed (didn't we?) that there was some evidence of a 'nudge' here & there. People getting fantastic ideas from nowhere, or a sudden impulse to go & do 'something different' that lead to important discoveries.
This 'intelligent force' definitely 'feels' extra-terrestrial in it's nature.
There is (in my opinion) a negative force also, call it an evil force if one has to name these things. This (also my opinion) is very much more terrestrial in origin.

In other words, it looks like we are about to shoot ourselves in the foot, during a race, just before the finish..........

Considering we lack telepathy (& a lot of other stuff) we are doing fairly well, IMO :)

QuoteBut, in my way of thinking about it, we are pretty much to blame ourselves, for any actual "quarantine". Any real knowledge and understanding on "How to do it", is pretty limited. We still struggle with simple launch vehicles, and with most of the other just very basic stuff, necessary to even the exploration of our solar system. And to even think about a human launch to the stars is completely outside the known capabilities for even doing that.

Yes, you could spell/summarize those challenges as being synonymous with "quarantine" I guess.

Right, dude ;)

Is mooning a social skill? LOL, You might try a google search for sites that specialise in the moon, but that would just probably lead you back here ;)

Good point Matrix, about escaping the playpen, maybe that was it.
I could have confirmed it for you had i 'travelled' further than Scotland!

Know thyself? good advice, but i can't do it, my mind is all over the place, always has been ::) The wife says she is still getting to know me after 17 years :)

Finally caught up!We don't need this argument either...
Sorry Amy, but i know what you mean, but it's not that simple.

Take me, i'm working on all kinds of stuff, mostly antigravity. But it's not relevant to this thread, at this time.
I can only comment on what i think is relevant to the quarantine discussion...

Of course it's ALL relevant, but we have to keep focused on each page separately, IMO
The Abundance will come at the end of the transition, not the beginning.

Now we've pretty much covered the 'why' of this, but can we now move on to the 'who' & 'how'?
How about "ok so we're in quarantine, what do we do now"?

How about 'get well soon"?

PWM

Quote from: Pimander on October 22, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
If you make it the subject of every thread then it is a problem.

No you clearly have not been banned for posting on it roughly 2500 times.  However, there are other topics, ideas and members here.  I'm asking you to bear that in mind.

In much the same way that the majority of members didn't want to read about mind control, TTBrown or Mikado in every single thread, they may not want to hear about TAP in every thread.  That is what I meant about broken record.  People don't listen to them do they?

Perhaps this reprimand would better have been saved for a thread where the issue was not applicable, eh? 

Can we all take a chill pill now?Can we move onto the how's & why's?
Let's not allow ourselves to derail this thread just when it was getting somewhere... ::) That's happened once too often in the past...

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on October 22, 2012, 07:57:15 PM
Considering we lack telepathy (& a lot of other stuff) we are doing fairly well, IMO :)

We do?

Not all of us. :P

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 22, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Perhaps this reprimand would better have been saved for a thread where the issue was not applicable, eh?

With respect..... in private or not at all.  Further posts on the matter will be removed from the thread.

Hi PLAYSWITHMACHINES,

Here is a little about that HOW and WHY....   :D

QuoteAah, Matrix, i do love your posts.
Would you say that this 'program' running for thousands of years is our REAL evolution, and would you agree that we are (maybe) at the point of transition from a Type 0 (terrestrial) civilisation to a Type 1 (interplanetary)?

There are 2 things involved (once again as ALL comes in 2's), as there is, in everything that exists.

1.      The Experience itself i.e. ecperiencing the flesh and Universes it interacts with.
and
2.      What Produces the experience ! (our body and Universe)

The Experience is a Complex form of "Communication", between the ends of the Mind
i.e. "Awareness" or LIFE.

Remember at school your teacher mave have said "A Picture contains a thousand words" ?

So the "Experience" involving 5 + different ways of experiencing the same Picture (Body & Universe)
is certainly a sophisticated way of "Communicating", unlike our Computers or TV etc.

So we find "Evolution" occurring in both, the System which Produces the "Experience"
and that "Experience" itself.

The "Evolution", found in the Experience (Universe) is a bit like a "Metaphoric Story"
about the Evolution taking place, in what produces everything, which may be like "Metamorphosis",
as found in many species on Earth.

The Changes taking place in the "Processing System" ALL things are Manifested through,
involves "Hardware" (The Conceptual "Construct") and "Software" Upgrades.

This takes place through a sort of "Metamorphosis" process, i.e. "Morphing" or "Shape Shifting".   :D

The reason why "History" is sort of "Metaphoric" or in "Parable form" is so the "Story" itself
(Body & Universe) can't Interfere with the process.

The "Experience" or "Story" (History) invokes the process of "Metamorphosis" to begin.
in the Construct (LIFEs Processor)


So referring to the "Processing Construct" of the Mind i.e. "Awareness" or LIFE,
it is our Questioning, during  "Play Time" in "The Playpen"  involves the "Absolute Center"
of the Mind (a Baby) being "Invoked" by the Outer End of the Mind i.e. "Awareness" or LIFE.

Unconsciously we are asking the other End of our Mind i.e. "Awareness" or LIFE for answers !

It is when we ask we get an answer ...  :D

If we don't ask we don't get an anser...   :'(

The other End of the Mind is our "True Parent" (Previous One) and the "Absolute Center"
is the "Child"  or baby.

When the Parent notices us asking, then it knows we are willing to listen i.e. Take Notice,
so will then feed us with Knowledge we desire profitable for the changes taking place
in the "Construct" of the "Processing System" of LIFE..

When this occurs, the "Downloading" takes place, to make the "Absolute Center" i.e. the "Child"
or baby, become like its "Parent" (Outer End of The Mind) i.e. Create Universes and Worlds,
involving Experiences for the shear enjoyment of Living.

It is ONLY LIFE which "Lives", that is why it is called LIFE...  :D

The Body, (result of a "Program") is NOT Living, as it is NOT LIFE but instead,
"Flesh" or the "Species", "Primate" or whatever....  ;D


So the "Transition" involves the "Processing System" and NOT "The Species".

But in saying this, it is through the "Species" i.e. the body we, "Partitions of LIFE" express ourselves..

"Inventions" or "Discovery" is One of the Processes involved,
as a result of the Invoking the "Absolute Center" of the Mind (baby)
by the other End (Outer) of the Mind (Parent)

QuoteMaybe that's what all the ET activity really is, maybe they all bought tickets to come & watch....
What i mean is, they know about the 'program', and maybe they are curious as to how we handle
our discovery of it....

Many a True Word is spoken in Jest....   ;D


So there is an Intelligent reason why the Earth experience is what it is.

QuoteCould be, could be.

it is Impossible for the Species to wipe out the planet.

QuoteI DO hope you're right in that!

Me tooooo...  :D

QuoteBut being humans, and knowing what we are capable of, i still have my doubts.

Don't give the outer Mind any Ideas.... it may happen...  Part of... (Remember the 2's)

1.     " Learning" in "The Playpen".
and
2.      "Entertainment" for those Outside the Earth (Playpen; Remembering, we are only
experiencing "Stories" or"Programs", involving Geometric based  Communication"
and is only Temporary anyway )

QuoteMaybe we would be the first 'advanced' species to wipe itself out, intentionally.
That would sell a lot of tickets
food for thought, that one

Yes indeed it would, but not so sure about us being Quote; Advanced Species though...   ;D


For some the next step is learning about their NEW or "Upgraded" Processing System.

QuoteThat seems to me to be the most logical step.
Accept it for what it is, try to understand it, experiment if possible, & above all, learn.

BINGO !

QuoteSo maybe i can't intentionally RV, no more than i can bend a spoon or levitate a pencil
by concentrating on it. (Of course i tried it, we all do at one time or another, don't we?)
Maybe we don't try enough.

Or maybe we NEED to learn about "The Processing System"
and its "Construct" (Which ALL is Manifested through) so we can do this
rather than trying to use the end result ("Story") to try and achieve this...

It's usually the Horse which pulls the Cart, Not usually the other way around...  :D

To change things we have to do this, through the Use of the "Processing System",
rather than Bashing it with a Sledgehammer...

The Sledgehammer referring to "Particle Accelerators" today.

QuoteGood point Matrix, about escaping the playpen, maybe that was it.
I could have confirmed it for you had i 'travelled' further than Scotland!

The Experience involves "The Playpen", but we escape it by learning about
"The Processing System" and its "Construct" and HOW to use it....

Well, Pimander, if we all had telepathy, no reprimand would be posted.

(ha-ha)

But seriously, folks.......  if what Sleeper said is true ( and I can believe it given how calculus was discovered simultaneously), then we have a continuing Violation Of The Prime Directive.

There's a lot of stuff that happened in history that only seems logical, viewed backwards as it happened.  How did the enormous resources to develop the atomic bomb get committed when it was all so speculative?

Likewise the US Constitution.  I have some sympathy for the Mormon notion that it was Divinely inspired. How the heck a bunch of squabbiling rebels put together such wisdom is a miracle. If you don't think so, look at Congress today.

Quote from: the seeker on October 22, 2012, 03:31:50 AM
For those unfamiliar with Ingo Swann here is a link to his site:

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Superpowers.html

seeker

Thank you for that link, Seeker.

The interesting aspect of a portion of that particular twist in the turn of time is the personnel cross-over to PRC membership/associates of members/associates of associates/etc.

It is always enlightening to see the pebble-in-the-pond effect at Pegasus. The house-cleaning was beneficial to all and unearthed a few acorns to ferret out.

Sir Seeker, are you of the opinion that 'trending RV'ers' have been told to 'keep your nose out of our business' by certain of those 'visiting entities' here on Terra Firma?

While we have your attention, are you of the opinion that 'Killshot' Major Ed Dames (http://www.learnrv.com/) is telling the truth?

Matrix, nice to see you're still on the ball and noticed the bat signal.

Now, back to the situation at hand, as we, too, have warmed to the topic. It's cold in that cave awaiting the infrequent (thankfully) call to arms.

Thank you.

Eradicator

QuoteMatrix, nice to see you're still on the ball and noticed the bat signal.

Just not looking forward to that "Curved Ball" that will undoubtedly come....   :'(   :D

When it comes I hope I don't let the team down.   :-[

Quote



Sir Seeker, are you of the opinion that 'trending RV'ers' have been told to 'keep your nose out of our business' by certain of those 'visiting entities' here on Terra Firma?

It is very possible that they have been warned off, if one is to give creedence to Ingo and Joe McMonagle...

QuoteWhile we have your attention, are you of the opinion that 'Killshot' Major Ed Dames (http://www.learnrv.com/) is telling the truth?

I have listened to Ed Dames many times over the years; yet his contemporaries maintain that you cannot 'see' a future event before it manifests...
is he telling the truth? Only Ed  knows...
I do firmly believe that we create what we turn to meet,i.e. the more you worry about an event the more we draw it to us; I have posted a thread earlier to detail how to change the world, one thought at a time, but it received little attention  ;D


I have emailed the owner of the site I linked to above, and he has graciously forwarded it to mr Swann; below is a copy of the original mail:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:36 PM, The Seeker wrote:

>     Dear sir
>
> The Pegasus research Consortium would like to cordially invite you to visit with us and hopefully discuss your experiences doing remote viewing with us; we are not a conspiracy site per se, our focus is on research and knowledge.
>
>
> respectfully
>
> Jim (The Seeker)
>
> http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The reply I received stated that it had been faxed to Mr Swann; with permission I will post the reply in its entirety.


seeker

Quote from: burntheships on October 22, 2012, 05:43:39 AM
My dear Seeker,

This is not the first time I have heard your words concerning
"The Day The Earth Stood Still".

You have my attention.

bts

Let us consider that the movie was released a year before the D.C. ufo flap in 1952; that it is portrayed in the film that our military of the day could not protect us; that we were warned several times that the solitary Gort could and would destroy the entire planet if not prevented from doing so...
then we have the parting speech telling us how if we didn't change our ways that we would not be allowed outside our world, that Gort was but one of a legion patrolling the galaxy and keeping the peace by brute force...

Jules Verne and H G wells made the statement 100 years ago about how amazing it was that today's sci-fi became tomorrow's reality...


seeker

I must say that a little research on swann's book 'penetration' took me to another forum and a very interesting quote from yet another  book mentioning all those mentioned already..... the author of the post quotes a bob teets book and the passsage that  he quotes I thought was very telling as it addresses the rv and aliens topic
you can read it here:  http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7618.30

since I am way behind most of you on the reading of this stuff I felt that I had concluded something similar to mr. swann when I said
some doors shouldn't be opened and some questions should not be asked because to ask takes you places you have no clues about and can get you into a bind.

my rv'ing  (not at all what I called it..my term was traveling ) is self taught and was very personally directed searches into past lives, dimensions and other stuff I was curious about..
the not reading books on the subject was  my choice so that I wasn't led or influenced..I wanted a purely personal investigation and by doing
it my way I have solid grounds for comparison.
sorry that's probably a bit too much info on me but having said that i think it would be great
to have his personal thoughts on here
so  way to go, Seeker

i have read the classics wells and verne and thought they were soooooooooooo fabulous
but i saw a show on their life stories and was amazed that they were not  so out there as
they were products of their circumstances..wild and interesting and a thoughtful prespective
i highly recommend it if you find it on history or one of those channels..it was a fine find  ;D

geeeeeeze..seems i've wandered a bit off topic..better watch it or pimander will get after me

ok.. do i think we are guarantined?......only in our own minds

in deference to matrix and his playpen explaination..
i feel that if we are still in the playpen of the universe (i.e. our self development)
it's due to lack of desire and presistance on our part to climb out...
we are in our comfort zone as lazy war mongering meat suits and fail to even look
inward to the light of ourselves, our access to abilities we mostly just talk about
we, as current earth dwellers have truly hidden our light under a bushel

posting before i change my mind..sorry if the spelling sucks..it's not my strong suit..


oh yeah.. hey shasta..thanks for noticing the halloween costume..lol

8)

Hi Sky,

Quoteok.. do i think we are guarantined?......only in our own minds

in deference to matrix and his playpen explanation..
i feel that if we are still in the playpen of the universe (i.e. our self development)
it's due to lack of desire and persistence on our part to climb out...
we are in our comfort zone as lazy war mongering meat suits and fail to even look
inward to the light of ourselves, our access to abilities we mostly just talk about
we, as current earth dwellers have truly hidden our light under a bushel.

BINGO !

I couldn't put it better myself Sky...

Allow me to give you a little GOLD ?   ;D

Quote from: sky otter on October 23, 2012, 03:56:54 AM
...
geeeeeeze..seems i've wandered a bit off topic..better watch it or pimander will get after me

ok.. do i think we are guarantined?......only in our own minds

in deference to matrix and his playpen explaination..
i feel that if we are still in the playpen of the universe (i.e. our self development)
it's due to lack of desire and persistance on our part to climb out...
we are in our comfort zone as lazy war mongering meat suits and fail to even look
inward to the light of ourselves, our access to abilities we mostly just talk about
we, as current earth dwellers have truly hidden our light under a bushel
...

8)

As your 'wandering' seems to unearth acorns of significant quality hidden beneath the mounds of leaves fallen from that bushel, it would seem even the Mighty Pim would be rooting you on.    :P

Not to worry, my little furry friend, as you absolutely nailed it:

...it's due to lack of desire and persistance on our part to climb out...

and we sincerely appreciate your point of view
and we sincerely have your back.    8)
as the comfort zone is about to be ripped asunder ...
but you already know that   ;)

Eradicator

Sky, you were exceptionally on topic.  Rooting for you all the way. ;)

 ;D

wow..gentlemen to be agreed with is soooo rare for me
i think i thank you..but i gotta ponder that lol

i really am glad that i landed here for awhile though

but now
i'll have to be careful not to think i am the otter walking on water ..

(http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/images47.jpg)

bwhahahahahahahahahah

;)


yeah, i know, seriously warped sense of humor
and momentarily off topic

::)

Quote from: sky otter on October 23, 2012, 03:56:54 AM


ok.. do i think we are guarantined?......only in our own minds

in deference to matrix and his playpen explaination..
i feel that if we are still in the playpen of the universe (i.e. our self development)
it's due to lack of desire and presistance on our part to climb out...
we are in our comfort zone as lazy war mongering meat suits and fail to even look
inward to the light of ourselves, our access to abilities we mostly just talk about
we, as current earth dwellers have truly hidden our light under a bushel

Otter, my dear little friend, that is exactly what I have been saying for years now; we are programmed from birth, first by our parents, then school, and religion, the media, tis all programming;
the hardest part of becoming aware is looking around and realising that something isn't right, it doesn't add up...

becoming aware must be quite a shock to most, for they seem to want to ignore it rather than explore it...


seeker

Seeker, Sky, you hit it right on..we are no more than perfect little receptors upon birth and from that day forward we absorb the doctrines and behaviour patterns we observe and are taught until we have the wherewithal to fight back or become aware..usually decades.

Until children are allowed to develop their own minds and thoughts, the perpetual sheep machine will continue.

We are products of our surroundings, and until the mind allows for the awakening of realization as to what has been done to our tiny little baby brains from day one, we will baabaa along and graze with all the other sheep.

As for this relating to quarantining or any other way of separation from the rest of the universe..these doctrines and teachings our children experience from day one are the reason we are "quarantined" it is our own fault because we fail to realize our full potential, and when we do, theres a herd of sheep there to trample us under foot.

The sheep which escapes the trampling, Tesla, Einstein, DaVinci and others, go down in history as great minds which inspire, but are completely enveloped by the lunacy exhibited by the rest of the sheeple around them.

Its hard to escape this cage of our own making, and rightly so, until we realize how ridiculous and ass backwards the people who control our world are, it will continue unfettered for a long, long time.

Earth, the self quarantined planet.

Le

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on October 22, 2012, 06:17:21 PM
C'mon, they moved earth here, kinda 'out of the way'...
Really? ???

Ancient Tibetan writings show the earth is not in the same place it was... Scientists thing that maybe we are actually part of the Sagitarrius Galaxy :D

You really ought to read my stuff :P

QuoteYes, there's a banner 5000 miles long on the backside of the moon, which is always facing away from us...
It says:

WARNING! this planet contains a hostile species, which is currently undergoing transformation to Level 1. It has therefore been quarantined. All contact with Earth will be avoided until after the transition. Come back after 100 Earth-star orbits or call the Earth Transition hotline on 0800-&^^^%{{"@#$\\||:o)

Yes... and the Apollonots also told us we were WARNED off the moon and never to come back, something that has been done since Obama told NASA they are NOT going back

People ...wake up and see the shackles. In the 1800's respected scientists like Johan Hansen and Tsiolkovski KNEW about the people on the moon...  then suddenly the US NAVY takes over the space program and its all hushed up. Ever since NASA 'went to the moon' they have gone out of their way to show it as a lifeless, colorless piece of rock.

Don't forget the very name of our website, the LIVING Moon came about sa an answer to that6

QuoteI believe in the possibility of critters, there's a lot of evidence for that, doesn't have to be intelligent to be a critter, does it?

No not as we think it, but they have shown that they ARE aware of us and have some level of communication. Until UFO;ogist separate the CRITTER type UFO's from the black ops craft and the true alien space craft we will NEVER... NEVER get closer to the truth

QuoteI don't think the Alien Galactic Brotherhood gives a rat's fart about this little planet, except it's got plenty of water, some nice beaches.
Oh darn, those pesky humans just spilt oil on the beaches!
OK it'l be Centaurus next year kids, i swear it... :)

Well water is not scarce in the universe. We have two moons in the solar system that are balls of water... so that argument doesn't hold water :P They don't need to come all this way to fill up their canteen. Besides our water is full of mercury, radioactive isotopes and other contaminants. Why not go to Enceladus and get pure clean pristine water?

But Hollywood wants you to believe that they want EARTH GIRLS :P Look at Jaba the Hut drooling (literally) over that Princess...  and that Lesbian Lizard in V drooling over Julia... "Earth girls are Easy"  :P

Interesting, Zorgon, could you steer some of us to your.."stuff" for further examination? :D

Id like to hear some more about the past centuries knowledge of moon people..havent read much about them!

You have so much stuff, its hard to pinpoint one section! :P

Cheers!

Quote from: sky otter on October 23, 2012, 03:56:54 AM
i feel that if we are still in the playpen of the universe (i.e. our self development)

"The earth is a cradle of the mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever."

Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky
Father of Russian Astronautics, 1896

Earth is a Kindergarten... and its being watched over by Kindergarten Cops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO4X8_c80kg

But cheer up

FERRET save the day

Quote from: Littleenki on October 23, 2012, 06:43:48 PM
Interesting, Zorgon, could you steer some of us to your.."stuff" for further examination? :D

Well sure...

1952 Washington UFO and Venusian Visitors (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=15.0)

The Milky Way - Welcome to your New Home Galaxy! (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=152.0)

That ought to keep you busy :P


As to the local war in the solar system, haven't had time to do that yet  :'(

QuoteId like to hear some more about the past centuries knowledge of moon people..havent read much about them!

Konstantin Tsiolkovsky "Dreams of the Earth and Sky" (1895) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Tsiolkovsky_001_Intro.html)

Life on the Moon A Short History of the Hansen Hypothesis (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00033798400200361?journalCode=tasc20#preview)

Then along came Simon Neucomb... and the world changed forever
Peter Andreas Hansen[/url]

Quote from: zorgon on October 23, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
Well sure...

1952 Washington UFO and Venusian Visitors (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=15.0)

The Milky Way - Welcome to your New Home Galaxy! (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=152.0)

That ought to keep you busy :P


As to the local war in the solar system, haven't had time to do that yet  :'(


Konstantin Tsiolkovsky "Dreams of the Earth and Sky" (1895) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Tsiolkovsky_001_Intro.html)

Life on the Moon A Short History of the Hansen Hypothesis (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00033798400200361?journalCode=tasc20#preview)

Then along came Simon Neucomb... and the world changed forever
Peter Andreas Hansen[/url]

Many thanks brother Z!
Ill be brewing a pot of Earl Grey tonight and having a nice quiet read!
Looking forward to the new material..the brain really is a sponge, eh? :D

Cheers!

Z, i agree totally about the moon. And i think it's odd that we have such a large moon in the first place, and if i was an alien on the moon & some pesky humans turned up, i would light a firework under their ass to scare them off, too :)
But i would need a LOT of convincing to assume that the earth has been moved and that there's dust & space junk placed around us to stop us seeing the universe, doesn't seem to stop the Hubble seeing billions of galaxies out there...

The only junk in our way is ours...

QuoteNo not as we think it, but they have shown that they ARE aware of us and have some level of communication. Until UFO;ogist separate the CRITTER type UFO's from the black ops craft and the true alien space craft we will NEVER... NEVER get closer to the truth

That's true enough ;)

QuoteBut Hollywood wants you to believe that they want EARTH GIRLS

I'd rather have one of those tall Pliedian chicks, with an IQ of 200......

Yes, i'm going to read some of that moon stuff also, time permitting ;) i have read plenty from Hoagland, which people for some reason do not want to hear... ::)

The fact that we may be quarantined is pretty much a foregone conclusion, given our history. And it's obvious the next move is up to us, it would be nice to send a civilian craft out there, manned by people not militarised puppets, on a peace mission.

Guess it's time for us to grow up?

Quote from: zorgon on October 23, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
"The earth is a cradle of the mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever."

Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky
Father of Russian Astronautics, 1896

Earth is a Kindergarten... and its being watched over by Kindergarten Cops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO4X8_c80kg

But cheer up

FERRET save the day

Now ain't that the god dam TRUTH   Z....   :D

Isn't the Earth located in 2 Galaxies overlapping or intersecting one another ?

One being the Milky way Galaxy...

Perhaps teleportation is the key to our escape from this prison planet.
Our alien wardens might get discouraged in that event and go pick on some other race.....haha.

Quote from: zorgon on October 23, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
"The earth is a cradle of the mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever."

Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky
Father of Russian Astronautics, 1896

Earth is a Kindergarten... and its being watched over by Kindergarten Cops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO4X8_c80kg

But cheer up

FERRET save the day

Quoting for its relevence to today!

;) Z, thank you!

Did Konstantin claim to have gone to the moon?
I'm sure I read that a few years back, but I googled him all day today, leading on from the Livingmoon.cam, and couldn't find this reference, nor his books ..
Can anybody help?

Found something on this link:  http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/tsiolkovsky_konstantin
He may have gone to the moon in his imagination.  ::)

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on October 23, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
Isn't the Earth located in 2 Galaxies overlapping or intersecting one another ?

One being the Milky way Galaxy...

I believe that our Milky Way galaxy and the nearest galaxy to ours called Andromeda is due for a collision in about 4 billion years. Here is a link:  http://earthsky.org/space/milky-way-and-andromeda-galaxies-to-collide-when-four-billion-years