I will admit that after the recent article on Billy Meier, I'm feeling seriously pugnacious at the moment, where ET are concerned. I have no idea of whether or not they have any way of hearing this, but earlier this morning I mentally made the decision that if I don't get some sort of fairly earthshattering contact experience within the next 72 hours, I'm going to ignore ufology as an entire topic for the foreseeable future.
I'm just tired of all of this talk about it, when for me at the moment at least, it is all purely hypothetical. So I'm formally giving any (positive) aliens that might be remotely aware of me, an ultimatum; guys, if you can hear me, it's time to put up or shut up. ;)
I know, I know; I'm going to get the usual response of, "Who on Earth are you to be so arrogant, as to presume that you can demand anything from them?" To that, my answer is that it depends solely on whether or not they care that I know that they exist. If they don't care about that, then they won't show up; and truthfully, I'm fairly confident that they won't. I am, however, seriously daring them to prove me wrong.
We'll see whether or not they're game. ;)
lol.. oh petrus...that's a great challenge
but i have a question for you..well many questions
have you pigeon-holed aliens into your own concept?
really if you can define ET..you loose..my opinion, of course
would you recognize an encounter if it doesn't fit your ideas of what it should be?
are you completely open to what comes after such a meeting?..especially if it is
not to your liking..
and can you be confident that it wasn't all in your imagination if it did happen?
how truly open are you to the meeting of your challenge?
i won't go to wheather or not you are arrogant..we already have that answer ;)
but i will awiat the end to your 72 hours...
but what if they don't go by time..do you have an alternative summoning mechanism parameter?
sooooooo many holes in that challenge..but i am wishing you much luck and success cause i
would luv to hear what happens..
8)
Well could you please carry a flaming camera at all times during the next 72 hours, Petrus? Just for me. :)
I don't have a camera, unfortunately. ;)
As for whether I'm sufficiently open minded or not; the only condition I've stipulated is that they be what Ra referred to as Service to Others polarised; at least to whatever meagre extent that I am myself. Assuming that said categorisation exists (and I've never seen any reason to assume that it doesn't) that should hopefully not put too much of a limitation on them.
Of course, yes; vaguely humanoid at least would be preferred, although probably not strictly essential...however I'd definitely prefer to avoid arachnoids or things resembling giant bugs if at all possible, as well. Truthfully, I'd also strongly prefer to avoid visible saurians/reptilians/dracoforms, as well; even if they are part of an STO/positive faction. Cue paternalistic reprimand from Zorgon... ;)
I was told by one professed psychic at one point, around two years ago, that the Sirians supposedly had an interest in getting in touch with me, when I was developmentally ready in their view of course; so they are actually the group that I'd specifically like to hear from. If any others want to contact me instead, however, I'm willing.
Quote from: petrus4 on October 23, 2012, 07:14:18 PM
I don't have a camera, unfortunately. ;)
Pics or it didn't happen. ;D
Quote from: Pimander on October 23, 2012, 07:17:27 PM
Pics or it didn't happen. ;D
It hasn't happened, yet. ;)
There are literally a gazzilion aspects of why one shall not be Skeptical when it comes to this matter.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Kielnhofer_Time_Guardians.jpg)
Join a lot of forums ask who has a memory of the above without giving too many clues away ofc... and come back here and report to us how many people ID that above image correctly ;)
Its way more than you would think, and that is ONE case :o
Quote from: sky otter on October 23, 2012, 06:06:02 PM
really if you can define ET..you loose..my opinion, of course
God, Satan, Angels, Demons, D'jinn, Pleadians, Reptilians, Greys anything not of this Earth :P
Any or all of the above will do... just send us an email :P
Over at ATS many people claimed they were in constant touch with aliens... so I asked them all if their friends could give me a quick lift up to the moon to have a look myself...
no one ever stepped forward :P
Z
while i agree with your list ;D
what i meant was that if you have a concrete image you may miss the real thing
LOL... sorry, couldn't resist:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8336/8116901032_560c6b1c8a_b.jpg)
Petrus, no camera is a bit of a limitation. Can't you borrow one for 72 hours? (Try to borrow one with image stabilsation (AKA VR) so that even if your hands are shaking, there's a chance that you'll get the shot).
As for the so-called UFO hotspots, how hard would it be really to point a half decent video camera up at the sky linked to one of those security recorders with the motion sensing?
In fact one could get a 16 channel DVR and another 15 cameras and have a proper go at it...
You could really stake out area51 that way too.
Good luck with your mission!
FB!
According to Lou Baldin, they can only be seen if they want to be seen. In the beginning of his book "A Day With an Extraterrestrial" he mentions how he was the only one who could see the craft in the woods, all the other joggers and walkers could not, the alien told him as much! Petrus, as you know, if you have an Android or iPhone, then you've got a camera already.
I hope they take you up on your ultimatum, best of luck!
apologizies ahead of post ;)
QuoteI was told by one professed psychic at one point, around two years ago, that the Sirians supposedly had an interest in getting in touch with me, when I was developmentally ready in their view of course; so they are actually the group that I'd specifically like to hear from.
developmentally ready ????????/ fattened up ??????
what if they want to have you for dinner...not to dinner..for dinner
sorry my brain always does this ::)
Quote from: petrus4 on October 23, 2012, 05:19:46 PM
I have no idea of whether or not they have any way of hearing this, but earlier this morning I mentally made the decision that if I don't get some sort of fairly earthshattering contact experience within the next 72 hours, I'm going to ignore ufology as an entire topic for the foreseeable future.
Have you thought of the possibility of UFOs (and Ufology) not being related to Extraterrestrials? You could end up ignoring ufology because of an unrelated non-event.
Quote from: ArMaP on October 23, 2012, 09:57:33 PM
Have you thought of the possibility of UFOs (and Ufology) not being related to Extraterrestrials? You could end up ignoring ufology because of an unrelated non-event.
No, I didn't actually think of that, I admit it. Then again, if I did start to ignore ufology, do you think I'd be missing much?
I've started to get the feeling that if I was to ignore it, pretty much the only thing I'd be missing out on, is various con artists attempting to extract money from people. ;)
Hi petrus4,
You won't find the answer in other person except yourself... :D
Bear with me a moment it has nothing at all to do with belief.
I can show you HOW to see a huge amount of UFO Activity
Note; UFO Unidentified Flying Object) for you, Unidentifiable at present anyway.
This can be done by anyone.
The Key is to look at the right time and in the right Location.
This requires an understanding of WHAT the Universe really is, and HOW it works.
Now as you are aware, when viewing a satellite at night, what lights it up is usually Sunlight
reflecting off it, when it is NOT in the Earth's Shadow... Yes?
Unless it is itself emitting a hell of a lot of Light itself.... Yes?
OK; Have you ever tried to see a car or a bus or even a house on a hill or Mountain in daylight,
say 300 km + from you?
Not easy to see is it ? :D
Now try to see the same at night !
So the same applies to trying to see an areal object in the sky...
Look at that jet without a trail flying overhead at 30,000 feet (only 5.68 Miles above you)
very very small looking isn't it ?
Let alone trying to see it, if it were at 150 miles + high...
You understand now the Difficulty ?
Now the only way you can see a satellite is if Sunlight (a plentiful amount of Light
to say the least :D. ) is reflecting of it.
This can only happen if the Satellite is out of the Earth's Shadow or seen dimly, if the Moon is in the sky.
So pick a clear night at look at the correct time when the Earth's shadow is in the "Zenith".
As you know the Earth's shadow extends beyond the orbit of the Moon, quite a long shadow...
Yes ?
If we look between 10:30 pm and 2:00 am, straight up into the "Zenith",
then this is the Sector the Shadow appears in, Depending on the day of the year.
So take the Angle of the Sun above the Horizon into account to view the correct location
of the peak of the shadow.
Now Summer time is the best time, because the Sun is at its highest above the Horizon
so the Earth's Shadow will be likewise.
OK; So now for anything to be seen in the shadow, has to be emitting a huge amount of light
and has to be either very close to you, or is very very large.. Yes?
(Refer to my statements re. on seeing an object 300 km + from you)
Now the next bit involves the workings where and HOW an aerial object,
not from the Earth, controlled by an Intelligence NOT of the Earth would approach
your personal experience.
(Sorry Too much to reveal and explain in this post.)
But anyway, it will approach your field of experience, within the boundaries of about 30°
around the "Zenith" (a total coverage either side of the "Zenith", about 60°) while entering through the Earth's Location.
So on a good clear Night, between 10:30 pm and 2:00 am, look up into the "Zenith"
for this period of time. (and if you are OLD like me, ;D it is easier if you lay on your back).
Be Patient !
Remember what I said, you are looking into "The Earth's shadow"
where there is little or NO Sunlight to reflect of anything, so if you see activity in this sector,
it can't be from any Satellite unless it is emitting a huge amount of Light.
This will then challenge you with another Question on the road to finding out the Truth.
What the Hell is ALL this activity, in this Sector of your vision at night... :o :P :D
You cant put conditions on whether they contact you or appear before you, so therefore their real.
I have believed in them since I was a kid, dont know why just have. Just like when I was 9 and saw the footage on tv when Lee Harvey Oswald came out with a black eye and said he never shot the President. I believed him there and then. Dont know why, just did.
I dont need to see one in person to believe but it would be nice as long as it wasnt 11 foot tall with scaly green skin, but then again that is another condition isnt it.
One thing I have noticed here and on other forums.
People get very "Invested" in things like UFO's and "antigravity". which leads to thsoe falem wars etc, and worse, disappointment.
I've found it best to take everything as entertainment. I replaced my TV with the internet, because I know TV is just entertainment, even the news, whereas there is much more mystery to the internet. I've made it a fairly golden rule to never buy "information". I will buy "instruction" from time to time, particualrly when soemone offeres a satisfaction guarantee, but information, no.
From personal experience of the breed and the activity of air pilots, I'd say that that group has provided plenty of fairly unimpeachable evidence for UFO's over the years, and we will soon have our answer now that cameras have got so much better and more plentiful. But I also suspect that most UFO lore, evidence, etc is twaddle. Put about for a variety of base reasons.
But I wouldn't cut myself off from the free information, because it's really entertaining. Have you read that "serpo" stuff? It's a lovely story. Well told and rivetting. Personally, I find it hard to believe taht in the whole military team no-one had a spiffy watch with the day/date function military people tend to refer to a timepiece a lot, and in a group of 12 I'd expect to see at least one decent watch. My experience of decent self winding watches would suggest that if the wearer survives the watch will too, and tell the corrrect time give or take a few minutes a month.
But I DO hope they take you up on the challenge. And if they do, as them about how the bloody drive sytems work on their saucers will you, for me? I'm still not able to work it out afetr years of working the problem... :c)
FB!
Petrus, see if you can get a hold of some good NVG and then take a look.
you can also see them on a cloudy night.if its bright and doesnt move.
most of the invisibilty tech only works up and down. not to the sides very well.thats why the closer you get to one,the less chance you have of seeing it.you can have extra fun by adding a friend.when you see one,call them.both of you take compass readings and triangulate on a map.then drive to those coordinates.it should be directly above you.if the weather is bad that means their invisibilty tech will barely work as its continually trying to adjust for atmospheric changes,wind ,temp,humidity.
they can sometimes be seen in thunderstorms at night.look high into the anvil and the lightning will light them up.
usually karma takes three days.be careful what you wish for.
Quote from: biggles on October 24, 2012, 01:14:28 AM
Petrus, see if you can get a hold of some good NVG and then take a look.
yeah those are REALLY good for spotting the CRITTERS :D but still dang expensive :o Those Gen 3 ones are still over 2 grand
Quote from: robomont on October 24, 2012, 08:40:47 AM
they can sometimes be seen in thunderstorms at night.look high into the anvil and the lightning will light them up.
yes the CRITTERS are easily spotted in and around thunderstorms :D NASA knows that two Just watch STS 80 footage. They are more visible during thunderstorms as they are 'feeding' or 'charging up' as it were so are brighter and spotable.
No tech at work there ;) but I know you won't believe me :P
Quoteusually karma takes three days.be careful what you wish for.
There is a possibility that CRITTERS are aware of us enough that they can sense some thought patterns and actually 'appear by request'. Many have claimed to be able to call them. But so far no one has captured one :D Not sure if its possible... maybe with a special containment field
The "critters" are a field like entity most likely.
They are visible as plasma clouds when they organise a large amount of certain energies which cause air to ionise. I think they are most easily visible under UV when they travel beyond the atmosphere.
Also, all life is not flesh and blood, therefore all technology isn't nuts and bolts. So how do you know whether some of these "critters" aren't technology? It is foolish to try to understand everything in human terms.
QuoteThere is a possibility that CRITTERS are aware of us enough that they can sense some thought patterns and actually 'appear by request'. Many have claimed to be able to call them. But so far no one has captured one Not sure if its possible... maybe with a special containment field
Hmmm, like an Ark perhaps?
Le
Quote from: Fruitbat on October 24, 2012, 01:12:10 AM
Have you read that "serpo" stuff? It's a lovely story. Well told and rivetting.
The one about the human/Grey exchange program? Yeah I did; found it on exopolitics.org once if memory serves. It was a good story. I don't have anything against Bill Ryan or whoever else producing fiction; I just wish that if they were going to do so, they'd tell us that fiction is what it is.
QuoteBut I DO hope they take you up on the challenge.
I don't think they're going to. Although I
have had much higher blood pressure over the last 24 hours or so, for some unaccountable reason. It could just be because my own anxiety over it, but I don't feel anxious.
Quote from: petrus4 on October 24, 2012, 05:26:17 PM
The one about the human/Grey exchange program? Yeah I did; found it on exopolitics.org once if memory serves. It was a good story. I don't have anything against Bill Ryan or whoever else producing fiction; I just wish that if they were going to do so, they'd tell us that fiction is what it is.
Bill Ryan did not know he was being hoaxed. One person who was associated with him at that time was Rick Doty. Google him and you'll get the picture. ;)
I'd say your announcement to this site would make covert contact attempts pretty unlikely.
Quote from: Pimander on October 24, 2012, 06:00:01 PM
Bill Ryan did not know he was being hoaxed. One person who was associated with him at that time was Rick Doty. Google him and you'll get the picture. ;)
I'd say your announcement to this site would make covert contact attempts pretty unlikely.
Agreed. To the extent that I'm willing to even speculatively claim positive contact in the past, the consistent implication has been, "Sorry, but you're far too immature, and as a result, we're nowhere near interested. Grow up, and we'll get back to you."
I suspect that my attitude here, will probably simply be viewed as yet more evidence of said immaturity.
Interestingly enough, with relation to this topic, I found this on YouTube a few minutes ago:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE2Yfztc-Ig
Veronica has a tendency to be uncannily synchronistic for me, and I think she's probably right on the money this time, as well.
zorgon,i hear you talk of critters all the time ,what got you down that rabbit hole?
you are the only person ive ever heard suggest that.
i think the pros are using infrared not nightvision.
the cameras are like fifty grand but supposedly they do rent them out.
Quote from: petrus4 on October 24, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
Interestingly enough, with relation to this topic, I found this on YouTube a few minutes ago:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE2Yfztc-Ig
Veronica has a tendency to be uncannily synchronistic for me, and I think she's probably right on the money this time, as well.
Good movie there... ;D
See if Greer's instructions work. Somehow you think 'em down.
I wanna meet the hotties who visited in Hair Of The Alien, not Greys. Better to probe than be probed.
Quote from: robomont on October 24, 2012, 06:44:57 PM
zorgon,i hear you talk of critters all the time ,what got you down that rabbit hole?
you are the only person ive ever heard suggest that.
Me too at times. Been working on the Drapa stones connection with the critters. I am still not sure if the critters are big bugs, Aliens or Natives to Earth. The Drapa connections in China claims the caft to have been filled with small people.
Deuem
Quote from: Eighthman on October 25, 2012, 01:02:17 AM
I wanna meet the hotties who visited in Hair Of The Alien, not Greys. Better to probe than be probed.
What Peter Khoury's mistress. Apparently his wife believed him and they were still together last I heard. :o
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2685/863/1600/Khoury%20alien.jpg)
Peter Khoury!!!!!
Quote from: petrus4 on October 24, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
Interestingly enough, with relation to this topic, I found this on YouTube a few minutes ago:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE2Yfztc-Ig
Veronica has a tendency to be uncannily synchronistic for me, and I think she's probably right on the money this time, as well.
An interesting piece, Petrus. I'll PM. [smile]