Its just been confirmed that Obama has won the Election over Romney !
Quote from: astr0144 on November 07, 2012, 04:27:56 AM
Its just been confirmed that Obama has won the Election over Romney !
Well, we can be sure there are some people looking for work right now....Romney's one of them...lets hope it works out for us and our interests.
Romney just didnt offer anything new, and was actually a detriment to the Repukes...he had no chance and America is sick of the rich elitist controlling every move. Most of which are Repubs.
Alex Jones was dreading Obama getting elected again !
From what he claims...Obama will be very bad news for the globalist plans.
He was suggesting to my surprise that Romney was in fact leading the campaign earlier this week ( according to the figures that he was referring to ) even though most things had been suggesting an Obama Victory well in advance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpk9Eqh4Wa4&feature=plcp
He has also suggested that the Election could easily be rigged again..
and my own thoughts on this are if those Elites who are involved are in control they will get the results that they want...
According to A.J... he reckoned Romney was nieve about the NWO Globalist plans... yet in the past he said it would not matter who got elected as the controllers use the president as their puppets anyway !
All I hope is that Alex Jones theories on Obama's plans do not play out in the very negative views that he suggests..
Obama will be President once again
Me thinks thou dost use the term "President" very loosely! :o
Quote from: astr0144 on November 07, 2012, 04:49:54 AM
Alex Jones was dreading Obama getting elected again !
That's because he is a Nationalist. The trouble is Nationalism is the biggest obstacle to sorting out GLOBAL problems.
Global problems need globally motivated solutions not nationally motivated ones. Simples. :)
Quote from: Littleenki on November 07, 2012, 04:34:29 AM
Well, we can be sure there are some people looking for work right now....Romney's one of them...lets hope it works out for us and our interests.
Romney just didnt offer anything new, and was actually a detriment to the Repukes...he had no chance and America is sick of the rich elitist controlling every move. Most of which are Repubs.
I hope that you're not implying that Obama isn't every last iota the frontman for the cabal that Romney would have been, Dave. I will never understand how, given everything that has happened, Americans are still somehow able to tell themselves that their electoral process works, and that the supposed differences between the two parties actually matter.
QuoteOn Monday while President Obama was taking part in a global nuclear security summit in South Korea, he was caught on tape asking for Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for "space." "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility," Obama implored. Obama assured the departing Russian President he will have the "flexibility" required to deal with missile defense issues after the 2012 presidential election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE
THE US POLITICAL MADNESS IS OVER
GOD BLESS AMERICA
CAPS INTENTEND WE CAN GET BACK TO UFOS ALIENS AND NON-EARTH BOUND HUMANS HACKING OUR HOLOGRAPH...ANYTHING OTHER THAN US MADNESS PLEASE
AND THE NAVY I am so happy this is over for another four years ;D
Risking being banned here, but dont ya find it Odd that Obama was in STH Korea spilling the beans... the homeland of Gangnam Style :P
For Political Speech's and what I think the good guys are really up to ! :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7xNDJsFGzU
SG1 should be BOOT CAMP P90X Gangnam Style Mandatory viewing for Peggy ;)
QuoteSoma said
I am so happy this is over for another four years
sure wish this was true..but they will be at it again in two..
hey maybe 12-21-12 will be the doing away with all politics and we will all be able to fly
yeah..that's it.. ;D ;)
Quote from: petrus4 on November 07, 2012, 02:55:18 PM
I hope that you're not implying that Obama isn't every last iota the front man for the cabal that Romney would have been, Dave.
Makes no difference which of the two are Pontiff :P Its all fixed anyway. If you believe your vote really counts for anything I have some marvelous swamp land in Nevada for you :D
Ron Paul led us all on that there was an option, then bailed on us and jumped on the Romney wagon...
The SCHMUCK I thought we might actually have a chance if he got in. I cancelled subscription to his site when he started pushing to vote Romney
They are all a bunch of USELESS EATERS... should stuff the lot of em in a cargo shuttle to Planet Dirt!
This gal has the right idea... Paulina Gretsky
(http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamImages05/gretzky_paulina415.jpg)
Obama is like our Prime minister, "a great guy".
Only "The Chief Public Relations Officer". ;D
Most people are only looking for "Entertainment" these days.
Or am I just getting cynical in my Ol age ? ;D
Quote from: Somamech on November 07, 2012, 04:56:00 PM
For Political Speech's and what I think the good guys are really up to ! :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7xNDJsFGzU
SG1 should be BOOT CAMP P90X Gangnam Style Mandatory viewing for Peggy ;)
Hi Soma, Love these Videos, the expressions of ourselves.
But who or
WHAT are we
all telling our "
Story" to ?
Ourselves or Something else ?
Quote from: petrus4 on November 07, 2012, 02:55:18 PM
I hope that you're not implying that Obama isn't every last iota the frontman for the cabal that Romney would have been, Dave. I will never understand how, given everything that has happened, Americans are still somehow able to tell themselves that their electoral process works, and that the supposed differences between the two parties actually matter.
What I was pointing out was that the repubs shot themselves in the foot two elections in a row...Romney was a piss poor choice, but then again, who among any party would be a better president than any other one?
As for the global "cabal" as long as the Jesuits run everything and their money through Switzerland, Mister Ed could make a decent president as well as any.
Saw off the head at the Vatican and the world can start to repair itself.
Quote from: zorgon on November 07, 2012, 06:06:06 PM
Makes no difference which of the two are Pontiff :P Its all fixed anyway. If you believe your vote really counts for anything I have some marvelous swamp land in Nevada for you :D
Ron Paul led us all on that there was an option, then bailed on us and jumped on the Romney wagon...
The SCHMUCK I thought we might actually have a chance if he got in. I cancelled subscription to his site when he started pushing to vote Romney
They are all a bunch of USELESS EATERS... should stuff the lot of em in a cargo shuttle to Planet Dirt!
This gal has the right idea... Paulina Gretsky
(http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamImages05/gretzky_paulina415.jpg)
BINGO!
Can we differenciate amidst the Cabal? Laurence Rockefeller seemed a decent sort, pushing for Full Disclosure.
Maybe they're not all child sacrificing, sociopathic Reptiloids.
As for our Affirmative Action Prez, he may have been critical in stopping the rush to start WW3. Even the CFR is talking about a Nuclear Free Middle East ( including Israel) - and some Nuke scientists from Iran and Israel are conferencing with each other about peace, surprizingly.
Quote from: Somamech on November 07, 2012, 04:56:00 PM
For Political Speech's and what I think the good guys are really up to ! :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7xNDJsFGzU
SG1 should be BOOT CAMP P90X Gangnam Style Mandatory viewing for Peggy ;)
Fascinating speech, here. More than anything else, it made me wonder. If Zorgon is right, and if SG-1/Atlantis are at least somewhat allegorical for things that have really happened, has a speech like this actually been made to a group like the Ancients?
Quote from: Eighthman on November 07, 2012, 10:59:23 PM
Can we differenciate amidst the Cabal? Laurence Rockefeller seemed a decent sort, pushing for Full Disclosure.
You assume that Disclosure does not serve their interests. It does.
The entire premise of humanity learning about the existence of ET life, definitively, is that we would then feel compelled to form a singular global government the next day; exactly what the cabal have been dreaming of all along. That is the whole point.
Don't think that nuclear non-proliferation doesn't serve the cabal's purposes, either; it also does. They want the UN to have its' own military, which would serve as the sole global monopoly on violence; those are pretty much their exact words. They want nukes out of the hands of sovereign countries, because nukes are the last resort that said countries have for self-defense, and to
remain sovereign.
Donald trumps thoughts on Obama victory !
March on Washington and put a stop to this !
Let's fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/ticket/trump-election-meltdown-twitter-obama-march-washington-054449245--election.html
Quote from: petrus4 on November 08, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
The entire premise of humanity learning about the existence of ET life, definitively, is that we would then feel compelled to form a singular global government the next day; exactly what the cabal have been dreaming of all along. That is the whole point.
If said government is democratic, could you please explain why that is bad? Somebody? Anybody?
Or are you all opposed to democracy where it really counts?
Global "democracy"? No, thank you. Currently, it would just empower evil banks, corporations and politicians.
I hope, I hope, I hope.......... we can achieve some sort of tech breathrough in which the role of governments is permanently diminished - such that we don't NEED THEM for much and that their authority hits a brick wall.
well i won't argue politics ..period..
but
if you can step back and look without a prejusticed thought - i think you will see something
i am a child of the 60's where equality was the by word but not the fact
as a young woman in the work force it was a real eye opener in any number of ways
but mostly
those with money and the old boys network ruled
with this guy being elected and those who voted and why..
i see that rich men - old boys club being broken
and they are running scared
is it a great victory for the little people and are we really getting somewhere fast
NO
but like someone said long ago..
one small step
the us is not just a place..it's an idea
it's an idea that draws folk from anywhere who want something better than they have
and think they have a chance to achieve it here
it's more of a melting pot than it ever was and that changes the face of 'us'
where will we wind up..what will come from here
i really don't know
but
i feel something has shown itself with this election and i think it is something good
and i am not talking politics or government
just my little old opinion
that humans just might..just might
;D
The Sky Otter..with the one post of wisdom...thank you, Sky. you saw the obvious through the festering cloud of discontent and anger spawned on by a simple failure to recognize what happened last night.
A clear message to the good ole boy system...and running scared is just what they are doing now.
Americans need to stop the knee jerk reactions because one of these days, that knee's going to jerk us off a cliff we cant come back from!
I want to say wake the flock up people, look at the real enemy, and adjust your thinking to face it.
Stop the bickering and back-biting that defines the common American anymore, and remember the days when America was something to be proud of.
Who is destroying America? Itself from the inside. Regardless of who leads this country, a page has been turned and we need to read the fine print which will make this small message seem like a huge event.
The same old poop doesnt further anything but the hate and fear which we have been subjected to for the last 83 years.
Recognize, observe and act..thats what we owe our future countrymen and children in their attempt to make sense of the quagmire weve created with our apathy.
Gold for you, Sky, you always bring the good stuff to the table!
Quote from: petrus4 on November 08, 2012, 01:01:49 AM
Zorgon is right, and if SG-1/Atlantis are at least somewhat allegorical for things that have really happened, has a speech like this actually been made to a group like the Ancients?
What you mean "IF"? :P
There was another TV series that made a similar speech to the Ancients. Babylon 5. That speech also created the solution and solved the problem
So yeah, most likely that speech was made :D
One has to watch the SG1 series in order... and not listen to the episode story as much as the underlying material that is on going. Even The matrix Travellers's light box was shown in that series as a tool to give someone instant godlike knowledge... IF it didn't fry your brain in the process.
Oddly enough Babylon 5 had a similar effect, but in their version it came about by looking upon a Vorlon, one of the Ancient races
Quote from: sky otter on November 08, 2012, 03:23:59 AM
where will we wind up..what will come from here
i really don't know
Obama Land Dec 21, 2012 :P
Something to think about...
haven't been to ATS in a long time, but while doing a search I found a thread...
Obama Wins - Layoffs Starting (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread897423/pg1)Some points....
- Lockheed Martin was delaying layoffs until after the election on the Obama administrations requests.
- "Today, I got the call that my staff is being cut by over 75%. I have no idea how we'll be able to deliver our work next year, it just seems impossible. "
- "...I've heard some other anecdotal evidence that people are losing their jobs all across the company as businesses allocate what used to be salary to future taxes."
- HR in our company said about a 5% cut after the first of the year. Had lunch with the guy today
- "I have heard of many companies and businesses that have threatened and are now seemingly following through with layoffs and shut downs in the event of four more years with Obama. That type of behavior will make the "economic collapse" that people are ranting about self fulfilling prophecy."
- "...Two hours after the election was called, my boss came into the break room and announced that gas has gone up .45 cents. "
- "...Because his Admin is creating regulations that are strangling them...so much red tape that many don't even want to start their own business. It's cost prohibitive. It's all over the business news."
- "Over 4000 new EPA regulations alone will go into effect in January."
- "Tax increases in January."
- "...Obamacare being implemented as we speak."
- "...Without a tax revenue. Because when businesses fail...POOF!, there goes a lot of tax revenue. OMG! Why am I not getting my free stuff! So many folks just don't get it.
Quoteposted on 7-11-2012 @ 11:48 AM by Mr Tranny
When your cash input doesn't go up, while your taxes do go up, then something has to give. The only thing that can give is the company, and the work force in the middle.
Companies have been holding off the layoff in hope that another president would get in and repeal the obama stuff before it kicked in.
They now know that won't happen, so they have to do what they have to do. The only other option is to go out of business.
Quoteposted on 7-11-2012 @ 11:48 AM by DOLCOTT
Our CEO announced today that we would be restructuring, code word for lay-offs. No optimistic outlook for 1st quarter 2013. Companies that would have expanded or opened will still be in a holding pattern until things shake out. If you work for or with the FEDS you will be fine unless it is military funded.
- "...Layoffs, 30hrs a wk max, benefit modifications"
Okay that is the gist of it :D
Shall we see what happens after Dec 21, 2012? perhaps THIS is our DOOMSDAY after all :D
Quote from: Pimander on November 08, 2012, 02:09:16 AM
If said government is democratic, could you please explain why that is bad? Somebody? Anybody?
Or are you all opposed to democracy where it really counts?
I am opposed to centralised, continental scale government in any form. Paul of Tarsus once said that money is the root of all evil; I, on the other hand, have always believed that federalism is.
As for democracy, I will also say this. Let no democracy which exists, make decisions that are legally binding on any person who is not physically in the room, at the time when said decisions are made.
Federalism is an invention of the cabal; it fits entirely with the eye at the capstone of the pyramid. The tiny few above, the teeming millions below. Government must become truly local again, if it is to become a source of real benevolence. One area where I deviate massively from the Leftist stereotype that some around here would probably brand me with, is in the sense that I am
not a globalist. I am not a racist, but I do believe in local government.
Global problems require global solutions. I agree with decentralising/devolving power where it does not damage the whole. It is certainly desirable that decisions be taken locally where possible. However, you need a co-ordinating entity in order for a complex whole to function.
Humans have a brain for the same reason. If all of your cells tried to look after themselves and were not co-ordinated by the brain, you will die.
Like the human body, human society is now so complex and humans so populous that it is incapable of surviving without an organising force. Nationalism and nation states cannot or will not co-operate and therefore we need a democratic central body.
As you said yourself Petrus, "So if you think that isolated self-maximisation is a morally or rationally defensible concept or form of behaviour, then go and live on Mars, without taking anything from Earth." I'd say that to all American or British Nationalists. You are destroying the planet for all humans and life forms out of self-maximisation. Your interest is not that of most humans or animal species!
Youre right Pimander, there is a concerted effort to destroy us from the inside out.
So we look to the first major move which occured after the election..the flame which sparked initially...if those posts at ATS are accurate...people being laid off by the largest energy and tech corporations we have..a move to protect their coffers?
No, its the first salvo in the attack by the republicans on the economy...just like they did in 2008..a hijacking of the governement to make it appear that everything bad that happens is the fault of the democrats..a cheap ageless strategy that only hurts us all.
Thanks a republican politician next time you meet one for what theyve done to lock up and freeze the government's ability to fix the economy..hell smirk and say, its our only hope to take back the control...
Will we be bullied by them again?
I certainly hope not....
In regards to God, Religion and the marvel of our bodies, I have long believed that we keep obsessing with the same defective analogy.
Aside from unconscious brainstem functions, our bodies manage an enormous array of biological mechanisms without our minds intervening. We don't have to remember to keep breathing or balance our potassium/levels ordinarily. "God" makes more sense as being like a body than a person - and Adam Smith's invisible hand has done pretty well.
That said, technology is wiping out jobs like a house afire. We will need to come up with a whole new system in which many more people are part time but still able to live.
If we ever build a Star Trek Replicator, I wanna be first in line to learn how to fix it, as the only Securely Employed guy left.
Free Energy or Bust, I say - unless there really is an Ascension and we all turn spirit and don't need to worry.
Quote from: Eighthman on November 08, 2012, 04:22:16 PM
Aside from unconscious brainstem functions, our bodies manage an enormous array of biological mechanisms without our minds intervening. We don't have to remember to keep breathing or balance our potassium/levels ordinarily.
No but the pituitary gland and brain are still fundamental to the co-ordinating of many systems. Some of it is conscious and some isn't. That in no way invalidates the analogy.
As for the God question, it is incidental to the point. Whether there is a God or not, there is a brain in humans, a queen in an ants nest and humanity is doomed without a co-ordinating principle. So far God (if it exists) has clearly left it to humans to sort out or is deliberately inflicting misery on untold millions - take your pick!
Just in case ascension doesn't happen on December 21st, 2012, could we set up a fair, democratic system that is run in the interests of the whole and not the few.
Lets keep it real folks. What I am suggesting is plainly sensible and progressive. Unless you have a theistic or nationalistic agenda then where exactly is the problem with a fair and democratic system.... even if it is part of a transition to an ascended humanity or hoped for future abundance paradigm. If we wait, there may not be a future.
Quote from: Pimander on November 08, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Your interest is not that of most humans or animal species!
Actually, I don't know of a single animal species which doesn't live in groups that are governed at a local scale. Eusocial insects, mammals, you name it. Nature operates as a decentralised, distributed network; not as the kind of top down global monolith that the cabal want to enforce on everyone.
The Internet itself is the first example that I know of, of humanity being able to build something which operates in this way. It is a planetary network, yet it has no centralised governance. Every site connected to the network is governed locally; yet maintenance of the network at a localised, per-node level, is performed because it is universally recognised that all benefit as a result.
This is the problem; and this is also where I remember again, how Christianity and some other faiths have actually said that evil cannot create. It can only attempt to create mockeries of that which nature does. With centrally planned Communism, or with the type of centralised world federalism that the cabal want to inflict on the rest of us, that is what they are doing.
The type of network I have described, naturally exists in a fractal manner; from the smallest scale to the highest. The cabal do not want that; they do not understand the paradox of how individual free will can still coincide with the requirements of the ecological network. They do not want dynamic self-organisation of a kind that mimics Nature; on the contrary, that is viewed as the single most potentially lethal threat to them that could possibly exist, and they destroy it wherever they find it.
For a start, I didn't say governed. ::)
I said co-ordinated. The more complex a species is, the more it depends on a co-ordinating system.
Basic prokaryotic cells (e.g. bacteria) have a simple nucleus; more complex eukaryotic cells (e.g. animal or yeast) have a highly organised nucleus to co-ordinate function. Simple multicellular organisms like many worms, have no need for a brain or centralised glands, more complex organisms (e.g. snake like reptiles) have a brain and glandular system! Highly complex species have a developed brain and nervous system (e.g. wales and humans).
Society needed a simple hierarchy in the past when they were nomadic or tribal. A more powerful one was needed to co-ordinate industrialisation (national).
Humanity has now moved to a new level: Global economy and trade. One nation can, out of self interest, exploit the wealth of others and the planet. Competition between Nations (e.g. China and USA in the coming years) leads to War, competition for the most resources (clearly a bad thing) and the weak are left with little. THE SOLUTION IS OBVIOUS!
We have a species with the capacity to kill its host (and we only know of one officially) but no co-ordinating principle to stop the madness. Running things in the interest of a nation will lead to disaster. A new level of organisation is required. If you cannot see that then in my opinion you have missed something fundamental.
And, to the idea of letting these nations destroy us all while we hope they let us move into an abundance paradigm of anarchic utopia.... madness. They won't let go of power. Only a democratic body can hope to keep them in check and have the backing of the masses. That body needs to be global.