Saw this today, about how Old Lord Gilbert thinks it might be an option to drop Neutron Bombs on the Pakistan Afghanistan border to aleviate terrorism in the region.....has he lost his marbles?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAwRRKIwEBU
Well, I didn't watch your video, but...................we are at war over there. War is hell, but war is war! If a country is going to fight a war, it should fight to win. Fighting to win means bringing an enemy/country to its knees. Bringing a country to its knees often means killing civilians as collateral damage.
We could end these wars in about 15 minutes, if we really wanted to. Didn't take long for Japan to decide they didn't want to fight any more! It is aggravating that we lose thousands of men and women fighting these piss-ant wars, when in truth we could handle such with few or no causalities. There is absolutely no reason for hand to hand fighting,as in the days of old.
There should be no war, without absolute intent to win, and to win quickly, whatever means it requires.
Wars are fought with enemies, not with friends!! The United States seems to no longer understand that "warfare" is a fight to win!!! Street fighting is for "gangs", Warfare should be strategically planned to win, and tactically executed to achieve the goals as planned, in the shortest order possible.
Does it take 15 minutes to sign an executive order? ;)
And, do you agree with a neutron bomb to "cleanse" the region?
It would also create a humanitarian crisis like never before..especially when the refugees needed to vacate the area, where would they go?
And then the fallout, which from a neutron bomb is not as bad as a conv nuke, but still nasty on the environment.
Perhaps an EMP, that would as Bush said, smoke em out of their holes, right?
I claim my marbles are lost more than his ;D
If I had any marbles left I would be smart enough to declare war on people with marbles to get some marbles myself to see wtf is actually going on LOL
Meh... Having Marbles on this planet is ball and chain my friend ;D
Sheesh! What if Lord Gilbert knows about Skanky Alens in them Hills :o
Quote from: Somamech on November 28, 2012, 07:31:54 PM
I claim my marbles are lost more than his ;D
If I had any marbles left I would be smart enough to declare war on people with marbles to get some marbles myself to see wtf is actually going on LOL
Meh... Having Marbles on this planet is ball and chain my friend ;D
How true!
Im more of a dominoes guy anyhooo!
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on November 28, 2012, 02:28:25 PM
Saw this today, about how Old Lord Gilbert thinks it might be an option to drop Neutron Bombs on the Pakistan Afghanistan border to aleviate terrorism in the region.....has he lost his marbles?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAwRRKIwEBU
???
sounds like he was trying to terrorize the terrorists or something. not sure that would work on the radical ones, as they would deem it an honor to die for allah in some horrible conflagration. early christians were giving themselves up to the romans to be butchered in the colliseum and paul had to correct them. that although jesus said we should die to self, he didnt mean literally. lol something like that, anyway.
Quote from: Littleenki on November 28, 2012, 06:54:23 PM
And, do you agree with a neutron bomb to "cleanse" the region?
Well if you MUST bomb someone into the stoneage, a neutron bomb is the best choice. Its clean and neat. No nasty wounds, no radiation burns, no deformed kids and no mourning loved ones... Its just POOF and you have a nice clean city to repopulate with the 'right' people
::)
But it does wipe out veggies and cute little furries too
Quote from: rdunk on November 28, 2012, 05:41:22 PM
.we are at war over there. War is hell, but war is war! If a country is going to fight a war, it should fight to win. Fighting to win means bringing an enemy/country to its knees. Bringing a country to its knees often means killing civilians as collateral damage.
Errr hellooooo can you please tell me WHICH country the USA is at war with?
Thanks 8)
Quote from: Littleenki on November 28, 2012, 02:28:25 PM
Saw this today, about how Old Lord Gilbert thinks it might be an option to drop Neutron Bombs on the Pakistan Afghanistan border to aleviate terrorism in the region.....has he lost his marbles?
Why stop there? They should just cleanse the whole Middle East :P THAT would certainly stop the nonsense that is just getting worse and we can start with a new slate :P
The Britain can be the new top Muslim State
::)
Ah well only less than four weeks to go and it won't matter :P
As I said once before, 21st technology combined with a medieval society is a deadly, deadly mix. Personally I think the whole area should be wiped clean...but hey that's just me....
geeeeezeeee..and here i thought it was already decided who would bomb who
Israel could send Iran 'back to the stone age'
with electromagnetic bomb
Detonation would disrupt all the enemy's technological devices, Sunday Times reports
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-could-destroy-irans-electric-network/
Israeli propaganda. :P
figures.. ::)
Awww, but what about all the ferrets living in the caves Zorgon?
As for wiping the area clean, theyve been talking about that for three thousand years, and the fanatics still procreate like rabbits..awww furry little rabbits.
So whats the valid argument for bombing them all, besides bomb them all?
Free oil?
Quote from: Littleenki on November 28, 2012, 10:34:07 PM
So whats the valid argument for bombing them all, besides bomb them all?
Free oil?
I don't think there is any oil on the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan. There are lots of tribes sympathetic to the Taliban along with their adorable trinkets like Sharia law, oppression of women and suicide bombers. There are more people there who have nothing to do with the conflict but I guess they don't matter. ???
Errr hellooooo can you please tell me WHICH country the USA is at war with?
Thanks
Z, my comment was meant to address thought relative to our going to or being at war, and would apply to wherever we decide to commit to warfare - country/people.
If we are going to fight, it should be at the highest level of aggression, until the enemy surrenders, with no holds (weaponry) barred!
Yes, we just pussy-foot around and allow thousands of our people be killed, mostly because of our inability to suck-it-up, and do what is necessary to get the job done - ie, play politics with OPL (other people's lives)! >:( >:( :o :P
So the UK dropping a neutron bomb there wouldnt disrupt oil supplies?
Hmmm, wed all be riding bicycles within a week. :o
As for the dogmas of the people there, sure theyre nuts but there some widely accepted religions here and there who clearly are just as nuts.
Lord Gilbert could get a room with them Im sure! I dont know which side of the locked door Id want to be on though....
Rdunk, are you ready to implement that all out attack strategy? Its certainly better than a pull out or cease fire, eh?
Not so sure what Jesus would think?
:o
Quote from: rdunk on November 28, 2012, 11:09:51 PM
Yes, we just pussy-foot around and allow thousands of our people be killed, mostly because of our inability to suck-it-up, and do what is necessary to get the job done - ie, play politics with OPL (other people's lives)! >:( >:( :o :P
Who is this we?
Do you not believe that all humans are created equal - as Jesus did? That the lives of any person who dies is worth the same as another? Evidently not.
The difference between dropping a neutron bomb and "thousands of our people getting killed" is obvious. Most of "our people" that have died in recent wars chose to fight. Dropping a neutron bomb on a whole region is just ever so slightly different and involves killing innocent people including children.
Where are your morals man?
P.S. If you have lost your marbles too, then I will happily give you some of mine.... They might get lost in the post though as they seem to be in short supply. :P
Having an all out bombing to end the war is like finding a cure for cancer!
Where's the profit in that????
They want us sick and they want the wars to continue to sell more. >:(
Quote from: Pimander on November 28, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Israeli propaganda. :P
Israel knows exactly where Israel stands! And where they stand (militarily) is so far beyond general knowledge, they make the rest over there appear to be backwards and in the dark ages, which most of those countries are anyway. Of course, Israel is somewhat forced to walk a "tightrope" politically, but they will do what ever they must do to preserve Israel.
And they won't do it with "propaganda", because they don't have too! They will do it with all of the advanced tools they have available. Some of their "tools" come from the US, but some of their tools are self-made. Whatever their tools, they are well able and well prepared to use them.
A "nuclear" Iran would not now exist if we, the U.S., had not withheld our "OK to Go", for the Israeli intentions. They would have already handled it! But no! And Iran is still going nuclear, and Iran is still giving arms to every entity that will use them to fight Israel and the U. S. .
"Who is this we?"
Pi, when I said we, I an referring to the people of the United States, and relative to the military of the United States.
Yes, war is hell, and often people are "hellish", and must be dealt with. You mentioned Jesus - yes Biblical scripture makes it clear that we are to love one another, but............God's people often are found in a position of having to fight for what was/is rightfully theirs. Turning the other cheek is one thing. Having someone threaten the life and limb of children, family, friends, and country is entirely another thing.
The radical Islamists, and maybe all Islamists, are a complete threat to all other humanity, by what they say, and by what they openly demonstrate - terrorist bombings and wars.
Radical Islamists make it very clear, either you become an Islamist, or you die.
And this is what I say about that:
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Every person who lives in Pakistan and Afghanistan is a radical Islamist who wants to kill you. By the same token, every person in the USA does not condone such acts of evil as bombing innocent people, thankfully.
Sometimes people make me sick. This is one of those times. >:(
I an referring to the people of the United States
NO YOU ARE NOT
here we go.. a bible thumper hawk...
yeah war is a true way to get peace..isn't it..
i rarely make nasty comments
but it figures you're from texas
big hat no cattle changes in your case to big mouth no brains
this is sooo hard ... not to scream and shout and try to change your thinking
your thinking baffles me
how can you possiblily think that you are any better than what you are trying to remove
this statement only proves YOU ARE THEM,,just from a different area
The radical Islamists, and maybe all Islamists, are a complete threat to all other humanity, by what they say, and by what they openly demonstrate - terrorist bombings and wars.
Radical Islamists make it very clear, either you become an Islamist, or you die.
the ignore button is a god send..see i do believe
In the first place, the military action in Afghanistan is not about terrorism, or oil; it was about the Taliban destroying all the opium production...
as for the radical Islamists, which is roughly 1-3% of the total number of Muslims, yes, they are the root cause of many problems; but you do not treat a snake bite on your foot by blowing your head off...
seeker
i personally like very few people,despise all organized religion,am not loyal to any country and would not have a problem if the whole planet got nuked.
no more war,in twenty years the wildlife would make a comeback ,plenty of resources for the people who are left.
i would easily turn the key and push the button.
robomont for prez in 2016.
i guarantee a brighter future.
The last thing I say before I go to bed to read some Jacques Vallee is this. To condone killing innocent people in a war is exactly the same as to condone terrorism. There is no difference.
To condone thousands of innocent civilians being killed to win a war is the same as to condone bombing the world trade centre to win. It is sick and VERY wrong. It is immoral.
I just hope Jesus comes and takes these people from Earth on December 21st, 2012. Perhaps that was the merciful act that is due to happen. I doubt it somehow but there is always hope.
r dunk
i came back to apologize for getting personal and rude..which was totaally uncalled for
i apologize for calling names and making unkind remarks
but how could you not see that what you propose is the exact same thing that you condemn
:-X
Quote from: rdunk on November 28, 2012, 11:55:45 PM
Yes, war is hell,
I ask again... WHO are we at war with? Which country have we declared war on?
Quoteyes Biblical scripture makes it clear that we are to love one another, but...........
There is no BUT... either He meant what he said or the whole religion is a SHAM... you cannot claim to be a believer and then change things to suit yourself.... there is no BUT to "Thou shalt not kill"
QuoteGod's people often are found in a position of having to fight for what was/is rightfully theirs.
By taking what belongs to other people? By what right?
QuoteTurning the other cheek is one thing. Having someone threaten the life and limb of children, family, friends, and country is entirely another thing.
Well then go after Bush and Co... they were the ones that were responsible for 9/11
Quoteand maybe all Islamists,
Some of my best friends are Muslim... in fact I had a really nice Berber girl stay with us for three months as an exchange student... You know what? Muslims believe there are other planets and that dinosaurs were real. :P
Radical Islamists make it very clear, either you become an Islamist, or you die.
QuoteAnd this is what I say about that:
Well I for one will chip in and buy you a ticket to Afghanistan so you can make a difference.... When would you like to leave?
We need a higher minimum, and lower maximum serving age, for pretty much every legislative branch of government in the Western world. From everything I've ever seen, inclinations towards corruption and totalitarianism are generally far higher among the elderly.
The other issue of course, is the fact that omnicidal, fascist white geriatrics are not representative of the entirety of the human population. Said populations are thus not served, by legislatures exclusively consisting of that demographic.
Quote from: Littleenki on November 28, 2012, 10:34:07 PM
Awww, but what about all the ferrets living in the caves Zorgon?
No problem. We simply send in Delta Force and rescue all the furries :D
QuoteSo whats the valid argument for bombing them all, besides bomb them all?
Valid argument? Ummmm gee didn't know that was required. :P Its like you said, 3000 plus years of the same old crap and they keep breeding like furry rabbits :P Neutrinos will fix that real quick :D
QuoteFree oil?
Did you know that Saudi citizens all drive a Mercedes, pay ZERO income tax, because stupid Americans refuse to boycott the oil companies? LOL Free oil? Hell Nature put it in the ground so its free... Just remove the Oil Barons and Sheiks and its all ours
MWHAHAHAHAHAA
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Quote from: Littleenki on November 28, 2012, 11:16:35 PM
So the UK dropping a neutron bomb there wouldnt disrupt oil supplies?
Sure it would, until we sent teams in to man the pumps :D Most of the system once the well is in place are automatic anyway... The pumps run and its piped right to the ports.
So it wouldn't take long to get em back online :D
QuoteHmmm, wed all be riding bicycles within a week. :o
80% of Amercans could use the exercise :P But I do wonder why Mopeds are not more common here
QuoteAs for the dogmas of the people there, sure theyre nuts but there some widely accepted religions here and there who clearly are just as nuts.
Its not about religion. All three, Christianity Judaism and Islam teach to be good to your fellow man. Its the Nut Jobs that have taken it all out of context. Its about control...
QuoteLord Gilbert could get a room with them Im sure! I dont know which side of the locked door Id want to be on though....
Well when the SHTF... ya better get ready to jump off that fence :P
QuoteRdunk, are you ready to implement that all out attack strategy? Its certainly better than a pull out or cease fire, eh?
Armchair Warrior... i offered him a ticket to engage... bet he has a reason why he won't go :P
QuoteNot so sure what Jesus would think?
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4027/2334/1600/JesusThumbs.jpg)
QuoteWell I for one will chip in and buy you a ticket to Afghanistan so you can make a difference.... When would you like to leave?
Ill see your coach and raise you a first class!
Rdunk..pack yer bags my god fearin brother! yer goin to afaganistan!LOL!
Ill take my Mercedes now Zorgon..AMG thanks!
What, hey?..we sent help!
:D
Quote from: rdunk on November 28, 2012, 11:55:45 PM
Yes, war is hell, and often people are "hellish", and must be dealt with. You mentioned Jesus - yes Biblical scripture makes it clear that we are to love one another, but............God's people often are found in a position of having to fight for what was/is rightfully theirs.
You know, I remember how a couple of thousand years ago, the Romans used to get together and hold a big celebration, involving Christians and lions. I suspect I'm not the only member of this forum, who occasionally waxes nostalgic for those days. ;)
:-[
i removed two mel brooks vids
too stupid to remain..sigh
:-[
as a person with two aggravated assault charges,one with a firearm and two felony retaliation against a peace officer and the other against a cps agent,i probably wouldnt be allowed to go to the middle east.
but you supply me with the weapons and a plane ticket,we may have ourselves a deal.
im pretty sure i could start the engine on ww3.
just so you know ,three of the charges never got to trial.
lol.
cops dont seem to last at their jobs very long after they cross me.
megalomanics rule !!!
when you think of nukes, you think of all the lives spared by not having to invade.
this is what keeps ones conscience clear.
if your religious then you can say look at all the childrens souls that were spared the corruption of mankind.
theyre all little angels sleeping in gods lap now.
your a hero for saving them, not a villain for turning them into dusty glass.
i call that a win,win situation.
imho.
robomont
well then, you sure calmed this thread down! i promise not to be a megalomaniac :D
so yeah, lord gilbert started drawing wildly and dangerously out of the lines in his coloring book.
whew. i mean, his country has several thousand
radicals muslims in it right now. he must not like
living. perhaps he's asking the muslims to nuke
his country? maybe our glorious leaders are broadcasting from the moon, and making it look like
they're here, while they work up the remaining population into an insane survival of the fittest scenario down here.
either that, or he's just getting senile. people with alzheimers are known to be physically and mentally violent from time to time. it may just be time for him to retire. yeah.....that's the ticket
Quote from: petrus4 on November 29, 2012, 03:23:29 AM
You know, I remember how a couple of thousand years ago, the Romans used to get together and hold a big celebration, involving Christians and lions. I suspect I'm not the only member of this forum, who occasionally waxes nostalgic for those days. ;)
Frankly, I'd rather throw hypocrites who advocate killing thousands of innocent people to the Lions.
Love thy neighbour but it's OK to drop a neutron bomb on them? Think about it! :o
Quote from: petrus4 on November 29, 2012, 03:01:57 AM
We need a higher minimum, and lower maximum serving age, for pretty much every legislative branch of government in the Western world. From everything I've ever seen, inclinations towards corruption and totalitarianism are generally far higher among the elderly.
The other issue of course, is the fact that omnicidal, fascist white geriatrics are not representative of the entirety of the human population. Said populations are thus not served, by legislatures exclusively consisting of that demographic.
LOL :o
Brilliant. Naughty, cheeky but brilliant. :D
Do you think we may have any, "omnicidal, fascist white geriatrics," on the forum?
not brilliant. he had to bring up the guy's skin color, which has nothing to do with homicidal behavior. can't prove he's religious either. and being old also has nothing to do with homicidal behavior (unless of course he has alzheimers). lol
Drop the books and beliefs, you get a "Corrective thinking format" keep going the way of the holy stuff, there will be bloodshed as it has been for century after century.
There is nothing more important to us than mankind, but with all these battle ground discussions and religious implications, 12/21/12 is a point in time being brought on by the play books of religion's. It is all manageable without any of it, especially religious beliefs and personal "Constitutions" too such thing's.
It is all cult thinking, but on a much more larger scale with both sides "WANTING" too be right.
All hogwash, Fodder for the fire, an end too the means, Disaster in the making once we go down these roads.
1WW
Quote from: undo11 on November 29, 2012, 09:04:20 AM
not brilliant. he had to bring up the guy's skin color, which has nothing to do with homicidal behavior. can't prove he's religious either. and being old also has nothing to do with homicidal behavior (unless of course he has alzheimers). lol
Apart from Obama (who is a puppet), they are nearly all white males (the people in government). It was a reference to that I think....
anybody know if the guy that created the atom bomb was religious? did they get the formula for it out of some holy book?
Oppenheimer was the main creator of the A-Bomb, as for his religious beliefs, I am not sure, but once they tested it, he openly confessed that "Now I am the Killer of worlds." and had true regret for ever having discovered the potentials of splitting the atom.
This had nothing to do with religion Undo11, this was "Survival of the fittest" as it was so gingerly put.
1WW
Quote from: Pimander on November 29, 2012, 09:21:20 AM
Apart from Obama (who is a puppet), they are nearly all white males (the people in government). It was a reference to that I think....
when people think "white man" they think exclusively, european white, as in great britain, germany, sweden, holland, iceland, norway. not spanish, or italian, arab or jewish or mexican. that's a very narrow corridor and sounds like the powers that be would like to get rid of that particular part of the human species. i wouldn't help them do it, if i was you.
Quote from: undo11 on November 29, 2012, 09:29:48 AM
i wouldn't help them do it, if i was you.
If you were me you'd understand what Petrus meant.
Quote from: Pimander on November 29, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
If you were me you'd understand what Petrus meant.
yeah but since im me, i know that arabs are not white people (in the sense that's meant by white, in petrus' comment). and the arabs rule quite a few countries. africa has several black rulers as well. not sure about canada, but south and central america is not considered to be ruled by whites but by native americans. then there's the chinese and their descendants who own the far east, exclusively. doubt very much that they have any white or black or jewish leaders there.
brain washing is dangerous stuff.
Oppenheimer was an orthodox jew?
i've seen his ashes at Per-la whatever, that big graveyard in Paris, where Jim Morrison,Edith piaf et al are buried.
Surely he was disgusted when he saw the results of his work?
Dave, goats are immune to EMP's far as i can tell, so why a neutron bomb?
In any case, it will disable or severely disrupt all WESTERN military units in the area, the heli's won't be able to fly out of Kundahar for quite a while......
And that sure is going to help gain confidence from the locals...NOT!
Seems entirely pointless to me.....
albert einstein was jewish by birth (didn't he discover the formula for creating the atom bomb? e=mc squared), but that doesn't mean he believed in judaism. this is part of how the whole thing is being blamed on "religion" because there's no clear demarcation between a religious jew and an atheist jew. so anything jewish people do or have done, is blamed on religion as a whole, when even the muslims and practicing jews in israel can tell you that the bulk of the leaders in israel are not practicing judaism, but are atheists
you can't blame the problems of the world on religion. although as an institution, religion sucks, it isn't the issue here. the issue here is that someone with alot of power is manipulating people's innate tendency to be racist and lump whole groups of people into categories so they can easily be dehumanized. don't drink the cool-aid.
if you want someone to blame for stirring the racism pot,blame the msm.
they have been doing it almost sublimely to us since bo.im white ,but even i can see the obvious.
my guess ,dec 21 will just be another boring day in paradise.
Quote from: undo11 on November 29, 2012, 09:39:23 AM
yeah but since im me, i know that arabs are not white people (in the sense that's meant by white, in petrus' comment). and the arabs rule quite a few countries.
Yes, but we all know Petrus was referring to the Western elite. Well everyone except you....
Quote from: Pimander on November 29, 2012, 05:40:38 PM
Yes, but we all know Petrus was referring to the Western elite. Well everyone except you....
there's a big difference between the whole world having white rulers and the west having white rulers, which in fact, is only partially right. i agree, there are more european whites leaders in the west, but i think you'd be hard pressed to prove they were either religious or northern europeans as a whole.
for example, my dad was french and scottish in his family tree. my mom was german and british in her family tree. france has a constant influx of people from africa and the middle east. for all i know i might have ancestors from anywhere on the globe. so why am i suddenly the scourge of human kind because there's less melanin in my skin and how does that effect my intent to be homicidal, considering i've never killed anyone in my life and am even against the death penalty that many of the people who condemn me are actually in support of.
i know you're going to say that i'm taking it personally again. well, i'm sorry to say it, but racism is personal. and white people condemning other whites for being white and/or in power, is racism. this has to stop or we are going to end up convincing the world to genocide every last white person on the planet, even if they aren't of european descent.
comprende?
Petrus was not being racist.
Quote from: Pimander on November 29, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Petrus was not being racist.
well i think i'll just prove that he was.
fascist black geriatrics
fascist arab geriatrics
fascist chinese geriatrics
fascist aboriginal geriatrics
could've easily just said he was a homicidal maniac, and it would've done the job just fine. to say he's "white" means petrus hopes to link the skin color of the man to being a homicidal maniac.
hate the problem, not the skin color.
i don't hate muslims. i don't like radical islam because it teaches some serious racist and bigotted stuff, but doesn't mean i don't care about radical islamists in general, thusly why i don't want to see neutron bombs dropped on them (remember, i don't believe in the death penalty). so having homicidal mania attached to skin color, that i happen to share, just jumbles my petunias.
Quote from: undo11 on November 29, 2012, 06:16:50 PM
i know you're going to say that i'm taking it personally again. well, i'm sorry to say it, but racism is personal. and white people condemning other whites for being white and/or in power, is racism. this has to stop or we are going to end up convincing the world to genocide every last white person on the planet, even if they aren't of european descent.
comprende?
I didn't advocate killing him, and I don't. If you try and claim otherwise, you're not going to accomplish anything other than embarassing yourself.
As for my finding fault with the behaviour of whites; look at my forum avatar again, Undo; and then remember the journey of Jake Sully, portrayed within
Avatar. Yes, the film was fictional, but I have really been through a very similar experience myself, on a number of different levels. I do not advocate white colonialism, and I do not sympathise with contemporary white paranoia about potentially becoming demographically extinct.
If it did happen, we
would deserve it; and it might even give the rest of humanity a greater chance to survive.
QuoteIf it did happen, we would deserve it; and it might even give the rest of humanity a greater chance to survive.
well if you think skin color indicates the need to be exterminated, then you won't mind me attaching your gender to the same kind of criteria. you sir, being a male of species, deserve to be eradicated (not really, but i just want you to understand the type of mindset you're embracing) because of the multitude of sins attached to your gender.
talk to the hand! your philosophy can kiss my shiny white derriere.
Quote from: undo11 on November 29, 2012, 06:50:23 PM
well if you think skin color indicates the need to be exterminated, then you won't mind me attaching your gender to the same kind of criteria. you sir, being a male of species, deserve to be eradicated (not really, but i just want you to understand the type of mindset you're embracing) because of the multitude of sins attached to your gender.
talk to the hand! your philosophy can kiss my shiny white derriere.
How much more of this is there going to be, Undo? How many more threads are going to be made on this forum, which will end up being hijacked by your persecution complex? I'm seriously wondering how much longer the staff are going to be prepared to let this go on.
Quote from: petrus4 on November 29, 2012, 06:54:54 PM
How much more of this is there going to be, Undo? How many more threads are going to be made on this forum, which will end up being hijacked by your persecution complex? I'm seriously wondering how much longer the staff are going to be prepared to let this go on.
you just said we would deserve to be annihilated. that's not a persecution complex response i gave. it's a reality check. next time you criticize some world leader for making bad choices, point out the choice, not the skin color!
i have to argue this with people who point out obama's skin color in their criticism of his less than glorious decisions. if he makes a bad choice or says something homicidal, call IT homicidal not his skin color. (unless of course, the choice he's making is racist, in which case, we could address his racism not his skin color. otheriwse, it gives the impression that all black people are racists. just not so!!!)
good grief, it's not like it's rocket science.
Hmm, i'm staying out of this...
Any kind of 'ism' is bad, and accusing anyone with 'isms' is also bad.
I think what Petrus meant was;
"If we (white people) die out, it would be our own fault"
Well yes it would, but there is nothing at all that can justify the existence of any one race over another.
I think we're all grown-up enough to see that?
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on November 29, 2012, 07:01:04 PM
I think we're all grown-up enough to see that?
yes we are. so why isn't there a jewish leader in china or korea or japan or vietnam? or why isn't there a black leader in russia or cuba or south america? or why isn't there a white leader in any of those places?
because america is the only nation on the planet that is expected to be non-prejudice/non-racist and then is blamed for every racist or homicidal comment made by a white person, anywhere on the globe.
Can't argue with that :)
Lord gilbert is English though, so being racist is not just for the Americans ;)
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on November 29, 2012, 07:08:46 PM
Can't argue with that :)
Lord gilbert is English though, so being racist is not just for the Americans ;)
aye but then i get blamed as a white person, cause he was talking smack! petrus just proved it. it's my fault, some guy in england is talking like a homicidal maniac. the racism is off the richter scale. he's actually trying to justify genocide!
i think i have proved my point, your honor.
i agree with you. Every country is racist to some degree, and Gilbert is a maniac for even THINKING to use a bomb.
The whole east-vs-west & terrorist thing has been well & truly milked for everything it's got.
I think America has showed great courage, insight & democracy when they elected a black president (OK so he's a Wall street puppet but most of you probably didn't notice at the time) at least their hearts were in the right place, only they weren't thinking much at the time....
yeah can you imagine the response i'd get from petrus if i defended some racist belief that arabs deserve to be exterminated? remember it's part of my belief that jesus was of arabic, jewish and greek descent. why would i want any of those people to be hurt? some white some black some semitic ? why? why would i call for their extermination? WHY?
WHY WHY WHY. i'm melting down at the insanity of such a comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. the really sad part about all of this, is that the real crazies out there, will take that kind of talk as a serious threat and fulfill it, to the letter. it's like racists of the petrus variety want the world to self destruct by egging on the rulers that are controlling various nations, to do so, either in self defense or out of racism or both.
let's kill whitey. well there goes a huge chunk of the population.
let's kill semites. well there goes a huge chunk of the population.
let's kill blacks. well there goes a huge chunk of the population.
and the insanity just keeps escalating till there's no one left, and yet, if you hear it from petrus' perspective, the only solution is genocide
if human nature is not something you're familar with, perhaps you're from another planet or something.
Quote from: petrus4 on November 29, 2012, 06:54:54 PM
How much more of this is there going to be, Undo? How many more threads are going to be made on this forum, which will end up being hijacked by your persecution complex? I'm seriously wondering how much longer the staff are going to be prepared to let this go on.
I dont see a problem with Undos reply Petrus from a mod action standpoint...besides she is staff..LOL!
Some good points have surfaced here, and some not so good, thats what makes us all different and unique.
Now, for killing anyone because of their nationality or location in a certain region?
Thats just maniacal and asinine.
Its a fact just as many here say kill the muslims, and many there say kill the mer-icans...their making the same mistake that theyve been saddled with by the dogma and racism of their parents and insane leaders.
Sad thing is, killing one terrorist requires often killing numerous innocents..is that worth it?
Imagine SWAT bombing your neigborhood to kill your crazy neigbor four doors down.
Make sense?
at undo,jew is not a race,israelies clame to be a race.
i mostly agree w pwm.
lets not forget india ,china and japanese are all extremely racist and some black folk in the usa.
i personally believe racism is a scab that some people just cant let heal,they just got to keep pickin at it until it gets reinfected.
QuoteImagine SWAT bombing your neigborhood to kill your crazy neigbor four doors down.
yeah it's not sound logic at all. which is similar to the idea of genociding people to get rid of folks you don't like with that same skin color.
have you heard what's happening now in south africa ? so many white farmers have been killed that it's causing an international debate. apparently, some guy named malema, was booted out of the african national congress, because he actually called for the south africans to kill the "white farmers" and "white settlers", after there was already an epidemic of it.
what happens is, some white people who benefitted because their parents flourished during apartheid, have inherited their parents farms and wealth. many have local populations of south africans living on their land, that are not white. these people work on the farms, earn an income and have free room and board. when the white farmer is killed, the people are evicted, and have no where to live and no means of sustenance.
in addition, the government is in such disarray, due to warring factions, that the social infrastructure has fallen apart, so most of the south african population is no longer "Enslaved" to the white man but is poor because they can't get social services. what happened was, the white farmers who still had property after the abolition of apartheid, were paying the bulk of the taxes and as a result their money was propping up the social service system of the country. as they are genocided, there are fewer and fewer tax payers and fewer and fewer places for the indigenous population to work.
so to cure racism, they created reverse racism and instead of working out a mutually beneficial arrangement, condemned their own people to ever increasing poverty with no end in sight.
to make matters even more ludicrous, when some of the white farmers saw that their fellow farmers were being gruesomely murdered (it's bad. sodomizing and raping old people, after torturing them? yeah that's way over the top) in their own homes, they said, "Screw that" and sold their farms to commercial interests in south africa's new rich, who made them into shopping malls and such.
normally, this would've been okay but we aren't talking about normal now. we're talking about people who want to kill the white farmers. they don't want them getting any good press by selling their properties to black south africans, because that gives the impression that the white farmers of today, are not the apartheid of the past and therefore crimes against white farmers are uncalled for. so now the big complaint is, that the white farmers who sell their land to commercial interests, have condemned the blacks who lived on their land to abject poverty. it's literally, a no win scenario.
no room left in south africa for white people, even if they were born there.
yep.maybe next time things will be better.
i like how karma went after the white kids.
if we started going after the children of corrupt leaders,oh how this world would be a better place.
as far as the blacks in africa.lettem eat dirt.
that wouldnt happen in my neighborhood.
id turn them into garden fertilizer.
maybe even eat them if they really pissed me off.
Quote from: robomont on November 29, 2012, 10:29:20 PM
yep.maybe next time things will be better.
i like how karma went after the white kids.
if we started going after the children of corrupt leaders,oh how this world would be a better place.
as far as the blacks in africa.lettem eat dirt.
that wouldnt happen in my neighborhood.
id turn them into garden fertilizer.
maybe even eat them if they really pissed me off.
oh dear. eating people and turning them into fertilizer is not the solution either. : /
just one more note on that topic:
if the leaders of south africa had an ounce of concern for the black population, they would provide any people interested in farming, lessons on how to properly use the land to their benefit. at least, if the new owners of the farm lands once held by now murdered farmers, had the knowledge needed to farm their lands successfully, they could kick start their food production and reemploy some of those people who were put out of work when the original owners were murdered.
i swear, is "politician" just another way to say "i don't give a $hit, just give me power and get out my way?"
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on November 29, 2012, 09:27:06 AM
Oppenheimer was the main creator of the A-Bomb, as for his religious beliefs, I am not sure, but once they tested it, he openly confessed that "Now I am the Killer of worlds." and had true regret for ever having discovered the potentials of splitting the atom.
This had nothing to do with religion Undo11, this was "Survival of the fittest" as it was so gingerly put.
1WW
Greetings
1WW:
One might consider this:
"I have become Death,
the destroyer of worlds"
Robert Oppenheimer, quoting the Bhagavad Gita,
on witnessing the first atomic bomb test, 1945
I have become Death, the destroyer of worlds (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1574.0)
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Liberty & Equality or Revolution
its easy to kill a man,its hard work to farm.
some people think the fruits and veggies just grow themselves.
imo everybody got what they deserved in south africa.
what i get tired of is people that think this planet can sustain ten billion people.
somebodies got to die and i prefer it be them.
Quote from: robomont on November 29, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
its easy to kill a man,its hard work to farm.
some people think the fruits and veggies just grow themselves.
imo everybody got what they deserved in south africa.
what i get tired of is people that think this planet can sustain ten billion people.
somebodies got to die and i prefer it be them.
it can sustain alot more than 10 billion. the problem is, the big wigs want you and i to think it can't. they need support from the grass roots to advance such ideas. if this planet had its act together, we would be colonizing space and the whole thing would be public knowledge and accessible by anyone courageous enough to take the journey.
one reason i know it can sustain more, is because we aren't growing anywhere near as fast as we use to thanks to china bumping off an entire generation of girls, india's vedic instructions to avoid girls (dowry too high), the people of the western countries being convinced to have smaller families (too expensive to raise children). practically the only groups still having large families are muslims and mormons.
in addition, diseases are growing in intensity and severity, so just like with a high population of any other kind of life form, nature tends to trim its own
numbers.
add wars and racism and genocides, and i highly doubt we will be much higher in population in a generation than we are now. if we live that long.
Quote from: petrus4 on November 29, 2012, 06:54:54 PM
I'm seriously wondering how much longer the staff are going to be prepared to let this go on.
Whaddaya mean? ???
We put up with
you don't we?
;D ;D ;D
Undo's right, Robo 8)
Listen to Yoda, you must :D
im all ears.
moved out to the quietness of country,now i have a subdivision with ninety lots across the road from me and illegal aliens running over my animals on the way to work at the new construction.
ended up giving up on free range chickns.
they would run over as many as they could.
they also are dumbing my daughter down because the school system has to accomadate them.
over half the kids in the school are mexican.
it was almost all white twenty years ago.
bedbugs,lice,whooping coff,more worksite injuries running up insurance premiums because they cant speak english or know osha rules.
not a single new book at the school this year.
all so the world can have cheap chicken.
they could have paid what the market could bare then we wouldnt be in this problem.
but our gov would rather chase potheads and go to training seminars in vegas and hawaii.
im still convinced i should be elected for a brighter future.
Quote from: undo11 on November 29, 2012, 09:39:23 AM
yeah but since im me, i know that arabs are not white people (in the sense that's meant by white, in petrus' comment). and the arabs rule quite a few countries.
Arabs are Caucasians... and Persian women are whiter than what we generally class as 'white'
Quotebrain washing is dangerous stuff.
Only if there is a brain to be washed... most global problems come because most people have a blank slate in their head that is easy to write a program on :P You cannot brainwash someone whose mind is cluttered :D
Quote from: petrus4 on November 29, 2012, 06:54:54 PM
How much more of this is there going to be, Undo? How many more threads are going to be made on this forum, which will end up being hijacked by your persecution complex? I'm seriously wondering how much longer the staff are going to be prepared to let this go on.
Well seems by looking at the lists I see a mere few people that post their views, albeit with some repetition :P
The science part of this forum is there but we have had no new blood their in some time... why? Well scientists don't see this site as being worth their bother, so sending out invites to real scientists gets you a response like this;
Sorry. I thought this was a group of scientists
Doug W. Renshaw
Research Assistant
NeuroMuscular Biomechanics Laboratory
drenshaw83@xxxxxxx.com
806-xxx-xxxx
Fairmont State University
1201 Locust Ave. Fairmont WV, 26554Uri Geller and Paul LaViolette, one involved directly in the whole RV mess since day one and the other working on EG both declined to visit, though they did both say they will be happy to respond to emails and Uri gave me permission to use material from his website
So we have a dilemma Either make this forum strictly for research and thus get few posts because it will bore most people :P OR open the doors wide like GLP and rake in the cash :D while keeping the good people in the private rooms :D
But the private rooms are useless when you cannot get new members that you can harvest to move up the chain :D
Just an FYI Undo has been around Pegasus since the day it was created :P and yeah, she has admittedly gone a little wild with the religion :P... but as they say, "Takes TWO to TANGO" I always find it amusing when people write and BITCH about something and then I find that THEY themselves chose to ENGAGE
Some wise guy once said "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
You all want a TRUE ILLUMINATI SECRET?
The reason for secret societies is so one can study what is important without all the NOISE of the outside mundane world. It is why most oriental mystics won't reveal their secrets either... it 'breaks the spell' as it were to use the knowledge to show off.
Two here have already chosen that path... that alone makes it worth my while having been here :D The rest of you are on your own :P
Old Lord Gilbert ?
Perhaps the result of inbreeding ?
Total Corruption of the genome.
Or perhaps he is just a "Biological Robot" without an operator. :(
Or simply just Senile.. ;)
Quote from: zorgon on December 01, 2012, 02:13:20 AM
Two here have already chosen that path... that alone makes it worth my while having been here :D The rest of you are on your own :P
Another has de-clined a gracious invite, Z, for Ingo Swann has never answered... :o
and there is a third traveler on the road paved by Amorc...
seeker
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on November 29, 2012, 09:27:06 AM
This had nothing to do with religion Undo11, this was "Survival of the fittest" as it was so gingerly put.
Well look on the BRIGHT side (Brighter than a THOUSAND Suns") The military was all gungho to make these new bombs, but after we wiped out a couple of cities, even the Military decided it was too much and despite testing them over and over and bigger and better, they never use them on people again (except the Mormons... who were down wind of the fallout as they waited to test them till the wind blew that way :P)
So in effect making that bomb stopped EVERYONE from using them again. At least for now.
But one does wonder why all that testing... okay so you make a bomb and want to see if it works. Blowing it up.... yup that one worked fine :P but will the next one?
::)
They just wanted to play with big bangs, like John and Bob did in Desert Blasts :D
And while the A bomb on Hiroshima was heinous, the Japanese are to blame for the second one... they didn't take us seriously the first time
So all in all using that bomb was a deterrent for ever using it again. Then the Russians had Chernoble... and decided it was time to talk to us so that no one had to use such a weapon again...
But the average people don't know all this :D Especially if they didn't read my Chernoble page :P
Quote from: the seeker on December 01, 2012, 02:37:18 AM
Another has de-clined a gracious invite, Z, for Ingo Swann has never answered... :o
Ingo I am not surprised as he has openly stated in the past he won't go to forum. Most likely to noisy here for someone with his mind ;) Think about it :D
There is another in the works, Good old Hal is at least answering email :D
Very true; but the original offer was to correspond by written word with Herr Swann..
Yes, I can see the problems for Ingo being on the 'net; total chaos and pandemonium on a mental level unimaginable...
Quote from: Somamech on November 28, 2012, 07:31:54 PM
I claim my marbles are lost more than his ;D
If I had any marbles left I would be smart enough to declare war on people with marbles to get some marbles myself to see wtf is actually going on LOL
Meh... Having Marbles on this planet is ball and chain my friend ;D
:o HehEheheHeh Hahahaha OoooOoo Ahhh... I really like you Somamech.
I don't go Crazy, I go Normal. Why the Hell does everybody take Everything so Seriously, I mean it's not like anyone gets out of here alive?! Are we all taking a test or something? I don't remember signing up for any test?!
My son's over there right now, I wish they would bring all of them home. The only one who win's in War is Peace, so let's just skip the War part.
Quote from: Somamech on November 28, 2012, 07:31:54 PM
If I had any marbles left I would be smart enough to declare war on people with marbles to get some marbles myself to see wtf is actually going on LOL
No need I can sell you my marbles :P I have some really nice antique ones :D
i dont want to see this place go down the toilet.
personally i like our private playground.
i hope i have not hurt anybodies feelings in these highly charged debates.
this sight is a treasure to me.
Quote from: Captain Dave on December 01, 2012, 02:56:06 AM
My son's over there right now, I wish they would bring all of them home. The only one who win's in War is Peace, so let's just skip the War part.
Captain Dave -
My hopes and best wishes for your son to return safely and soon!
And also a big thank you for serving his country (us).
Family separation during times of war is always a -very- stressful time for families.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5925cfwBmU
Quote from: A51Watcher on December 01, 2012, 05:51:50 AM
Captain Dave -
My hopes and best wishes for your son to return safely and soon!
And also a big thank you for serving his country (us).
Thank you A51Watcher.
My Grandfather served in Japan during WWII, I served during Desert shield/ Desert storm and my Son is in Afghanistan right now. My family has served this country during war for generations dating back to the Spanish American war and beyond...
Theres always a war to fight, because those that don't learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIqxuygWwM
Quote from: Captain Dave on December 01, 2012, 09:19:40 AM
Theres always a war to fight, because those that don't learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.
Aye aye mon capitaine...
but consider this... two children who have never see a sword will pick up a stick and will play at sword fighting...
War is built into our DNA... whoever programmed us made sure that it is in our nature
Quote from: zorgon on December 01, 2012, 09:56:45 AM
War is built into our DNA... whoever programmed us made sure that it is in our nature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjjvimJRevQ
I'd really encourage you to check out Bruce's work, Zorgon. He has been discovering that what we think of as "fixed human nature," at the most basic level, is apparently not fixed at all.
We have persistent
habits, yes; and they can be very deeply ingrained. They are, however, modifiable.
Perhaps Bruce figured this out when he divorced his first wife! ;D
Just kidding I like Bruce's work. 8)
Umm, getting back to that 'war is in our DNA' stuff, that may be so, it may even be so that it was done on purpose, but that pre-supposes that we were altered for a purpose. If that is so, & i doubt it, then we still have no idea what that purpose IS....
War has outlived it's usefulness, as has webbed feet & a tail. It might still be in our genes, but if it's used less & less, it will become a 'redundant' gene.
At least,that's all we can hope for, that enough people get to see that....
Quote from: petrus4 on December 01, 2012, 11:01:32 AMThey are, however, modifiable.
Of COURSE they are modifiable :D Isn't that what conspiracy nuts are saying da Gubment is doing with all that Mind Control? Modifying?
Yes, but can we not do a little modification of our own?
Once you know your own mind, you can modify it at will.... ;)
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 09, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Yes, but can we not do a little modification of our own?
Sure we can... the QUESTION is who gets to modify WHOM and for what reason :P
One example of this Zeta Talk modified peoples behavior to think the world was ending in 2003. So those modified thinkers went out and sold everything and bough bunkers...
So maybe we can modify people to send all their
GOLD to Pegasus so we can get some real work done :P
But seriously... maybe people just want to live their life without fear that SOMEONE ELSE wants to reprogram them to their way of thinking :D
Quote from: zorgon on December 10, 2012, 12:20:14 AM
Sure we can... the QUESTION is who gets to modify WHOM and for what reason :P
One example of this Zeta Talk modified peoples behavior to think the world was ending in 2003. So those modified thinkers went out and sold everything and bough bunkers...
So maybe we can modify people to send all their GOLD to Pegasus so we can get some real work done :P
But seriously... maybe people just want to live their life without fear that SOMEONE ELSE wants to reprogram them to their way of thinking :D
Working on that tonight, Z...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESWRtaHNU8
Brilliant L.E. :D
And Z;
QuoteSo maybe we can modify people to send all their GOLD to Pegasus so we can get some real work done
Produced a good choking fit, that one... :)
Quotemaybe people just want to live their life without fear that SOMEONE ELSE wants to reprogram them to their way of thinking
That's right, the trick is to do that without letting them know it.
Let them think THEY are doing it ;)
I know it's subterfuge, but it works :P
Pretty soon they WILL be doing it.....