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We are very pleased today to release the first issue of Space Quarterly Magazine with both the U.S. and Canadian editions now available.

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The next issue of Space Quarterly is already being worked on for a December 2012 release.


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Greetings:

Have you ever given a thought as to exactly how many satellites there are presently in orbit?

In your estimation, be sure to include the 'out-of-service' and otherwise 'non-functioning' hunks of potentially lethal debris eventually de-orbiting... possibly to a place near you.

Let's see what the Chinese are up to these days.

We find it extremely interesting who's launching what for whom.


FOR THE RECORD:

NASASpaceFlight.com (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/)

China's 18th launch of 2012 sees Long March 3B loft ChinaSat-12
November 27th, 2012 by Rui C. Barbosa


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The Chinese have launched the ChinaSat-12 (Zhongxing-12) communications satellite into orbit via a Long March 3B/E (Chang Zheng-3B/E) on Tuesday – their 18th orbital launch of the year. The launch took place at 10:13 UTC from the LC2 launch pad at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.


ChinaSat-12 Mission:
This bird was originally called Apstar-7B, a Spacebus-4000C2 platform geostationary communications satellite, with 24 C-band and 23 Ku-band high power beams. It was contracted to Thales Alenia Space (http://www.thalesgroup.com/Markets/Space/Related_Activities/Thales_Alenia_Space/) of France for construction, on behalf of APT Satellites, in April of 2010.


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Apstar-7B was a back-up satellite, in event Apstar-7 failed to make it to orbit. However, the launch – carried out on March 31, 2012 – was a success (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/chinese-long-march-3be-launches-apstar-7/), allowing Apstar-7B to be transferred to a secondary agreement between APT Satellites and the China Great Wall Industry Corporation (CGWIC).


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With the secondary agreement in place, the satellite was taken by China Satcom – a state-owned satellite operator in Beijing – and renamed Zhongxing-12 (or ChinaSat-12). Zhongxing-12?s role is to replace Zhongxing-5A (ChinaSat-5A) at 87.5 degrees East.

Zhongxing-12 had a lift-off mass of 5,054 kg and a design lifetime over 15 years. It uses a S400 propulsion system and is equipped with two deployable solar arrays.

Part of the satellite's communications payload has been leased to Sri Lanka and is co-branded as SupremeSat-I. Recently, SupremeSat entered into a partnership agreement with CGWIC for the design, manufacturing and launching of the SupremeSat-III satellite and also to secure the marketing facilities of many other satellites owned and operated by CGWIC and the China Satellites Communications Corporation.

This satellite will be based on the DFH-4 platform and will be positioned at 50 degrees East Longitude after being launched by a CZ-3B/E launch vehicle. Supremesat-II will be launched in mid 2013 and will also lease capacity on the Zhongxing-11 (Chinasat-11) Chinese made communications satellite.

Zhongxing-12 will serve the demands of communication, satellite broadcasting, data transmission, digital broadband multimedia system and media streaming services in China, East Asia, South Asia, Middle East, Africa, Australia and China Sea area, and the Indian Ocean region.

The Spacebus 4000-based medium-class telecommunication satellite has a successful flight heritage, and can easily accommodate a large range of payloads in every band (Ku, C, Ka, X, S, L) to satisfy customer needs.

The solar array power offered by the Spacebus 4000 is up to 15.8 kW with a payload power up to 11.6 kW, typically 80 to 100 active channels with medium RF power (105/110W in Ku band), standard equipment and system designs available in Ku/C and Ka frequency bands, while other frequency bands (X, S, L) can be proposed.

China's 18th launch in 2012 was also the 173rd successful Chinese orbital launch, the 173rd launch of a Chang Zheng launch vehicle, the 9th launch from Xichang in 2012 and the 77th orbital launch from Xichang.


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Developed from the Chang Zheng-3A, the Chang Zheng-3B is the most powerful launch vehicle on the Chinese space launch fleet. The Apstar-7 launch was the 23rd flight of CZ-3B and the 55th flight of CZ-3A series launch vehicles.

The CZ-3B features enlarged launch propellant tanks, improved computer systems, a larger 4.2 meter diameter payload fairing and the addition of four strap-on boosters in the core stage that provide additional help during the first phase of the launch.

The rocket is capable of launching a 11,200 kg satellite to a low Earth orbit or a 5,100 kg cargo to a geosynchronous transfer orbit.

The CZ-3B/E (Enhanced Version) launch vehicle was developed from the CZ-3B, increasing the GTO capacity up to 5,500kg. The CZ-3B/E has nearly the same configurations with CZ-3B bar its enlarged core stage and boosters.

On May 14, 2007, the first flight of CZ-3B/E was performed successfully, accurately sending the NigcomSat-1 into pre-determined orbit. With the GTO launch capability of 5,500kg, CZ-3B/E is dedicated for launching heavy GEO communications satellite.


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The Xichang Satellite Launch Centre is situated in the Sichuan Province, south-western China and is the country's launch site for geosynchronous orbital launches.

Equipped with two launch pads (LC2 and LC3), the centre has a dedicated railway and highway lead directly to the launch site. The Command and Control Centre is located seven kilometers south-west of the launch pad, providing flight and safety control during launch rehearsal and launch. The CZ-3B launch pad is located at 28.25 deg. N – 102.02 deg. E and at an elevation of 1,825 meters.

Other facilities on the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre are the Launch Control Centre, propellant fuelling systems, communications systems for launch command, telephone and data communications for users, and support equipment for meteorological monitoring and forecasting.

The first launch from Xichang took place at 12:25UTC on January 29, 1984, when the CZ-3 Chang Zheng-3 (CZ3-1) was launched the Shiyan Weixing (14670 1984-008A) communications satellite into orbit.

(Images via ChinaDaily.cn, Xinhua and weibo.com members at the location).



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SPACE - The Final Frontier

Hey fourwinds, possibly a great topic for general and specific discussion. For instance, the first thought I had about this subject puts a little different philosophical twist on actually how we might view any part/role humanity has in space.

Since the beginning of man, humanity has been faced with a huge assortment of frontiers, involving every aspect of life and of this planet - fire, food, shelter, energy, metals, medicine, wheel, flight, human body, weather, electronics, microscopes, telescopes, ships,
elements of the periodic table, ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ , and etc.. And still new "frontiers" are still being discovered, as humanity continues to do what humanity does, in its search for all knowledge of life and existence.

However, for the "frontier of space", at which man is only nearing the very beginning,  the word "final" strikes me as being oxymoronic. To me, it seems that "space" is not really "A" frontier! Rather space is generally accepted to be the infinite and as yet very unknown Universe, a Universe that is literally unknown, and a Universe that will likely have a new and different "frontier(s)", with every step man takes outward, into it. 

As man becomes a part of "space" he will have to deal directly with every frontier that presents itself - likely nearing an infinite number, in the infinity of space.

Maybe, "Space, The Beginning DADDY of all Frontiers" could be an alternate way to think about the generality of this OP subject!

Another way to help us visualize this subject is - - Earth is simply the first place in this infinite universe that man has had opportunity to encounter "space frontierS".  ;)

                                         
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Greetings Esteemed Member rdunk:




That is a wonderful way to take this out of the gate.  :)

We are adding varying content and figured this forum is a better home than where STFF was first placed.

Thank you!

it drives me bonkers when my brain points out to me, without my own forethought, that rockets look like penises and planets look like giant eggs waiting to be fertilized by rockets lol

any cure for my strange ability to see metaphor and symbol in things?  it's useful for prophecy reading, art, writing, music, but gets a bit over the top from time to time.  this is one of those times.   (no i will not blame it on 2001 a space odyssey!)

Quote from: undo11 on December 02, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
it drives me bonkers when my brain points out to me, without my own forethought, that rockets look like penises and planets look like giant eggs waiting to be fertilized by rockets lol

any cure for my strange ability to see metaphor and symbol in things?  it's useful for prophecy reading, art, writing, music, but gets a bit over the top from time to time.  this is one of those times.   (no i will not blame it on 2001 a space odyssey!)

undo, the long haired redhead just above, posted by fourwinds, obviously could simply be one of those infinite and unknown "space frontiers" I was referring to!  ;)

Or, with a couple of "small threads", this spacey redhead that fourwinds has given you, might make a good new entity for your "space game".  She is pretty much "out of this world" isn't she?!! :)

Or, maybe fourwinds post of the redhead is just to show to us how very acute our expectations for "differences" in the unknown "frontiers of space" should be! Every step will be a step into the "unknown".

fourwinds, tks for the "home run" note, as I have always liked baseball. I played Little League the first three years that it was in my home town. My team manager for those three years was Monty Stratton, a famous and outstanding Chicago White Sox pitcher in the late 1930's. You might remember the movie, "The Stratton Story", starring James Stewart, as Monty Stratton. Monty shot himself in the leg in a hunting accident, which ended his career. He was a great guy, and a good coach!!

Very informative post Thor, i'll read that PDF tomorrow ;)

Quote from: undo11 on December 02, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
it drives me bonkers when my brain points out to me, without my own forethought, that rockets look like penises and planets look like giant eggs waiting to be fertilized by rockets lol

any cure for my strange ability to see metaphor and symbol in things?  it's useful for prophecy reading, art, writing, music, but gets a bit over the top from time to time.  this is one of those times.   (no i will not blame it on 2001 a space odyssey!)

I'm so attracted to you right now!  ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, just kidding around...

I bet everyone does that geometric shape, metaphorical thing. Funny how our baser instincts can sometimes override our logical self causing an internal argument?! Well... happens to me all the time anyway.

Watching all those Star Trek episodes when I was a kid probably didn't help either... Watching James T. Kirk bring Love to all those alien planets.

Greetings:

Did not the ZorgMeister cover this in ancient history?


These guys act like it is 'new' because it came up on YouTube recently, highlighted in a thread on ATS and was immediately torpedoed by previous links to ABSOLUTE PROOF that it is an errant insulation tile... now we don't have to worry about that one anymore, thanks to Phage, Chadwickus and Jim Oberg.    :P



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlzIj1xM09I

QuotePublished on Jan 21, 2013

This Triangle Shaped UFO found while looking through photos on the NASA archive images site. This Triangle shaped UFO is interesting and important because it is actually captured in two photos.

This UFO is in the more traditional shape. Given its size relative to earth is it possible that this triangle shaped UFO is responsible for sightings such as the Phoenix Lights?

You can find the original photo and link to the original photo here http://ufosightingz.blogspot.com/2013/01/amazing-triangle-shaped-ufos.html

And they're on the ball at Tango... :P    Gotta love Human_Alien's lead:


"Two photos would pretty much cancel out the 'smear or smudge' theory..."



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21 January 2013

Here'e his thread on ATS:

Triangle Shaped UFO in NASA Photo (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread920150/pg1)



OK, let us look for the information straight from the horse's, errr, mouth.

"The cloudy surface of the earth is used as a background."


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And the build-up, analysis and dismissal is of interest; we'll let the pictures tell the story:


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This is good...   ;)

"i've never seen any of the regular skeptics (ArMaP is one of the few i've seen who is more understanding) accepting anything that has an interdimensional or extra terrestrial..."

Well, ArMap?
What is it?


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Good thing another 'expert' chimed in...:P


We must beef up the Classified Section (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3577.0)...how'd we miss this? :o


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As usual Thor, your threads are a mine of information 8)

Isn't that one of the 'lost' X-37's ???
LOL
Great work, mate :)

That NASA triangle photo...

I contacted NASA and ordered the print.

The process works like this.  You contact the curator of the NASA images. You can download a fairly good high res copy for free...

OR you can get the NEGATIVE SCANNED for a fee.

So I ordered it.  The curator then takes the negative next door to Bay Area Imaging (in Houston next to JPL)  They then scan it and/or print it in any resolution you wish. I ordered it on cd at 600 DPI scan and an 11 x 14 print.

That cost me $110.00 :D

However since NASA images are public domain, I am allowed to print them from that disk and sell them :P

I plan to offer them as posters with the caption...

NASA says... "Space Debris"

Anyone wants one?

::)

Quote from: thorfourwinds on January 26, 2013, 08:35:33 PM
Well, ArMap?
What is it?

A triangular Chinese lantern?  ;D

Seriously, I don't have the slightest idea of that thing is, although, because it looks close to the camera, I think the generic "space debris" explanation is likely to be correct, but it could be anything.

Quote from: zorgon on January 26, 2013, 10:22:30 PM
That NASA triangle photo...

I contacted NASA and ordered the print.

The process works like this.  You contact the curator of the NASA images. You can download a fairly good high res copy for free...

OR you can get the NEGATIVE SCANNED for a fee.

So I ordered it.  The curator then takes the negative next door to Bay Area Imaging (in Houston next to JPL)  They then scan it and/or print it in any resolution you wish. I ordered it on cd at 600 DPI scan and an 11 x 14 print.

That cost me $110.00 :D

However since NASA images are public domain, I am allowed to print them from that disk and sell them :P

I plan to offer them as posters with the caption...

NASA says... "Space Debris"

Anyone wants one?

::)

Are you re-gifting last year's Christmas present?    :P

Quote from: ArMaP on January 27, 2013, 12:08:28 AM

Seriously, I don't have the slightest idea of that thing is, although, because it looks close to the camera, I think the generic "space debris" explanation is likely to be correct, but it could be anything.

Well, "looking close to the camera", for this triangle we see, is a bit relative to our perspective, in looking at this photo. We can know for sure, that the black triangle is closer to the camera, than are the clouds. But, our "perspective" also can be affected by tele-photo properties of the camera. Also "close" is not a very meaningful description, when describing something in space.

But, simply from a viewing standpoint, how close, or how far away an object looks to be, is also very relative to its size. For instance, consider how huge is a B-747 aircraft, when standing a few hundred feet away from it on the ground. Now consider how small the 747  appears to us while looking up at it from the ground, when it is flying just 35,000 to 40,000 feet above us - just a huge difference in size appearance for only a few feet, in spatial relevance.

Shuttle tile? "Not even", in my opinion. To quote a tile info page, "Except for closeout areas, the HRSI tiles are nominally 6- by 6-inch squares. The HRSI tiles vary in sizes and shapes in the closeout areas on the orbiter". So, the Space shuttle tiles are "nominally" very small. And description with the pic of tiles in the above post also show these are very small pieces of tile.

So, if a piece of tile was right at the window, a camera might see it. But, a 6 inch tile, only several hundred feet away, if seeable, would appear as a speck of "black pepper".  And it would become un-seeable at any farther distance.

So, it is a U-F-O by definition, because no one seems to know what it is. Maybe additional higher resolution pics will turn up someday!! :))

Well we need to know how Black Tiles are Thermo Coupled to Each Other!

Interesting thing I learnt whilst at work is that a Triangle Shape is Utterly Useless for Thermo Coupling with space around it in a powder form.

Its kinda hard to verify what I am saying without giving myself away completely

Quote from: rdunk on January 27, 2013, 06:26:06 PM
Well, "looking close to the camera", for this triangle we see, is a bit relative to our perspective, in looking at this photo.

Sure it's relative, if it wasn't we wouldn't be have this conversation, right?

QuoteBut, simply from a viewing standpoint, how close, or how far away an object looks to be, is also very relative to its size.

I don't think so, that's when you compare sizes or use size to get an idea of distance. If you are only trying to find the distance of an object for which you don't know the size then size is meaningless.

QuoteSo, if a piece of tile was right at the window, a camera might see it. But, a 6 inch tile, only several hundred feet away, if seeable, would appear as a speck of "black pepper".  And it would become un-seeable at any farther distance.

What happened to the "tele-photo properties of the camera"? ;)

The page for that photo has this at the bottom:
Camera Focal Length: 100mm

With that focal length, a 6 inch tile wouldn't appear as a speck if it was at some 30 to 50 metres from the camera.

QuoteSo, it is a U-F-O by definition, because no one seems to know what it is.

Only if the definition is "unidentified floating object", as we cannot know if it's just floating or flying on its own.

"Only if the definition is "unidentified floating object", as we cannot know if it's just floating or flying on its own".

"ARMAP, while I don't agree with part of what you said, there is no real reason to discuss.

Though, this is one "anomaly" that you at least probably will not proclaim it to be a "rock", a simple crater, nor or a "cosmic streak".  ;) 

More than likely, the black triangular feature is an object that has just somehow fallen from the "stargate path", as it was arriving at, or leaving, the planet.  ;D

Quote from: rdunk on January 28, 2013, 01:56:20 AM
"Only if the definition is "unidentified floating object", as we cannot know if it's just floating or flying on its own".

"ARMAP, while I don't agree with part of what you said, this particular subject is not worth the discussion.

Though, this is one "anomaly" that you at least probably will not proclaim it to be a "rock", a simple crater, nor or a "cosmic streak".  ;) 

More than likely, the black triangular feature is an object that has just somehow fallen from the "stargate path", as it was arriving at, or leaving, the planet.  ;D

lol are you poking fun at my stargate theory? :D  say yes so i can challenge you, as a christian, to review my data.

No, I really wasn't poking fun at the stargate possibility. With what we know right now about the black triangle, I just considered it as much a possible alternative explanation, as is being a "shuttle tile", at any distance.

What little poking-fun I was doing, was mostly of our not-so-in-the-closet skeptic, ARMAP.  :D :D - - just friendly fun!!

The Future of On-Orbit Satellite Servicing (https://forum.spaceref.com/showthread.php?17-The-Future-of-On-Orbit-Satellite-Servicing)

From a technological perspective, we are now at the point where satellite servicing is readily possible. There are still some challenges, but none of which are a detriment to moving forward.

From a needs perspective, one only has to look at the growing number of objects placed between Low Earth Orbit and Geostationary Earth Orbit (GEO) in the last 25 years. This includes a growing and dangerous category of object - orbital debris.

There are over 19,000 objects in orbit that are larger than 10 centimeters in size. Smaller debris numbers are in the tens of millions. There are however over 1500 objects considered to be debris that weigh over 100 kilograms each and which account for the 98% of the over 1900 tons of debris in orbit.

Aside from orbital debris, we've seen the number of GEO satellites increase from 50 to 398 active satellites in the last 25 years. GEO satellite slots are finite and valuable. Dealing with the removal of, or servicing of satellites in these slots is a critical issue going forward.






MDA Corporation (http://www.mdacorporation.com/corporate/index.cfm) of Canada in 2010 announced plans to move forward with an on-orbit solution it calls the Space Infrastructure Servicing (SIS).

The SIS spacecraft is an on-orbit servicing spacecraft that would initially carry up to 2,000 kilograms of fuel and a suite of robotic tools to service satellites. It seemed the venture was going nowhere as MDA was initially unable to sign on an anchor tenant needed to make the venture viable.

But on March 15th of this year, MDA announced it had finally signed up its anchor tenant, and a large one at that - Intelsat. MDA was so confident in the venture, and being flush with cash, it decided to take a gamble and fund the initial development itself.

It would invest $200 million over the next four years.




While the deal with Intelsat was what it had been hoping for, it concerned only a portion of the commercial satellite market.

Its business plan apparently included the need to service U.S. government satellites as well. But being a Canadian company, the question is whether it would be allowed to compete for U.S. government contracts in this area.




MDA does have a U.S. subsidiary company, MDA Information Systems Inc., which has been operating in the U.S. since 1969. It's with this subsidiary company MDA hopes to able to bid on government contracts.

At this time, MDA is currently conducting an extended definition phase of its SIS initiative. The definition phase is scheduled to be completed by early November. If MDA concludes that there is enough of a market, it will move forward with the project. However, the question of whether it can compete for potential U.S. government contracts remains open and it is unclear if MDA would proceed if it could not access the government market.

What's important to understand with the MDA initiative is that Intelsat, a major satellite service provider, has shown faith in MDA's plan to service its satellites. This is a first. This points to the fact that a potentially lucrative new revenue stream in the space systems sector is about to open up.

Regardless of MDA's future in the on-orbit satellite servicing market, there now appears to be momentum building for a viable commercial solution to the much needed on-orbit satellite servicing market.

The future of on-orbit satellite servicing it seems, starts now.

We leave you with this:








Uploaded on Feb 29, 2012

Why do we explore?

Simply put, it is part of who we are, and it is something we have done throughout our history. In NASA's new video, "We Are the Explorers," we take a look at that tradition of reaching for things just beyond our grasp and how it is helping us lay the foundation for our greatest journeys ahead.



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We didn't see this in Zorgon's Naval Space Command, so we will trace the origin of the present-day Combined Space Operations Initiative (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=b1b791d3ddafcbe04fd404c180567653&tab=core&_cview=1).




Naval Network and Space Operations Command Established (http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=2878)

Story Number: NNS020729-15Release Date: 7/29/2002 10:21:00 AM
By Gary R. Wagner, Naval Network and Space Operations Command Public Affairs


DAHLGREN, Va. (NNS) -- A new command charged with operating and maintaining the Navy's space and global telecommunications systems and services was established in formal ceremonies here recently.

The Naval Network and Space Operations Command (NNSOC), created through the merger of elements of Naval Space Command and the Naval Network Operations Command, will execute operational oversight of shipboard networks, Navy's satellite communication systems and overseas communications networks, as well as the Navy's portion of the Navy-Marine Corps Intranet.

"To this point, the fleet has not had a single sponsor for network operations," observes Rear Adm. John Cryer, Naval Network and Space Operations Command's first commander. "This organization will consolidate the strengths of its predecessors to provide crucial leadership in this area of fleet support and a more efficient mechanism to responding to fleet telecommunications requirements."

Cryer, who assumed command of Naval Space Command in December 2001, emphasizes that the establishment of NNSOC is representative of the Chief of Naval Operations objectives directed toward alignment.

"CNO's goal is to create a streamlined Navy with a good handle on efficient and effective business practices. Our objective will be to develop an efficient organization that is more responsive to fleet needs," says Cryer.



The new organization is a subordinate element of the Naval Network Warfare Command (NETWARCOM) established earlier this month in Norfolk, Va., and commanded by Vice Adm. Richard W. Mayo.

NETWARCOM will serve as the central authority to coordinate all information technology, information operations and space activities in support of all fleet commanders in chief. Within the Navy hierarchy, NETWARCOM will have a position equivalent to that of the "type commanders" who oversee the surface, undersea and air warfare communities.

Mayo also assumes the title of commander, Naval Space Command, and the role as the naval component to the U.S. Space Command. The commander for NNSOC at Dahlgren will serve in an additional duty capacity as deputy commander, Naval Space Command.

The merger of Naval Space Command and the Naval Network Operations Command affects some 5,800 military personnel and civilian employees currently assigned to both organizations and their various components, including approximately 300 personnel at NAVSPACECOM's Dahlgren location and another 300 personnel at NNOC's headquarters in Washington, D.C.

Future plans call for relocating all personnel from the Washington location to an expanded NNSOC facility in Dahlgren. Funds for a military construction project to build a 75,000-square-foot addition to NAVSPACECOM's current building have been programmed for fiscal year 2004. Construction is planned to start in the spring of 2004.

Organizations assigned as subordinate commands to NNSOC include the Naval Satellite Operations Center in Point Mugu, Calif.; Fleet Surveillance Support Command in Chesapeake, Va.; and the regional Naval Computer and Telecommunications Area Master Stations (NCTAMS) in Norfolk, Va., Naples, Italy, and Wahiawa, Hawaii.

For more information on the Naval Network and Space Operations Command, go to www.nnsoc.navy.mil.

DCMilitary.com -- Dahlgren Base Guide (http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/special_sections/sw/081206z/ss_132225_31956.shtml)


Naval Support Facility Dahlgren
Naval Network and Space Operations Command

Naval Network and Space Operations Command (NNSOC) was established on July 12, 2002, through the merger of elements of Naval Space Command at Dahlgren, Va., and the Naval Network Operations Command in Washington, D.C.

This action was part of a broader organizational realignment that also established the Naval Network Warfare Command (NETWARCOM) as the service's first type commander for the Navy network and the information technology, information operations and space systems that support it.




NETWARCOM was created to be the central operational authority responsible for coordinating all information technology, information operations, and space requirements and operations within the Navy.

As a subordinate of Naval Network Warfare Command, NNSOC is responsible for operating and maintaining telecommunications and space infrastructure that supports naval operations. NNSOC executes oversight of shore-to-ship network services and operations to include messaging, voice and IP connectivity, ground and space segments for Navy's satellite communication systems, overseas communications networks, and the Navy portion of the Navy Marine Corps Intranet (NMCI).

Additionally, on April 4, 2005, Commander Naval Network and Space Operations Command also assumed the title as Director of Global Operations for NETWARCOM.



Headquartered at Dahlgren, Va., NNSOC consolidates headquarters and operational elements of the former Naval Space Command and Naval Network Operations Command. Organizations assigned as subordinate commands to NNSOC include the Naval Satellite Operations Center in Point Mugu, Calif.; Fleet Surveillance Support Command in Chesapeake, Va.; and the regional Naval Computer and Telecommunications Area Master Stations (NCTAMS) in Norfolk, Va., and Wahiawa, Hawaii.

Restructuring Boosts Navy Information Sharing | SIGNAL Magazine (http://www.afcea.org/content/?q=node/1228)

The evolution began in September 2005 with the integration of the Naval Security Group (NSG) and its subordinate commands into the Naval Network Warfare Command (NETWARCOM), Norfolk, Virginia. It continued unfolding in September 2006 when the Naval Network and Space Operations Command (NNSOC), Dahlgren, Virginia, was disestablished, and NETWARCOM subsumed its responsibilities as well.

Many of the NNSOC's 250 billets are being used to staff NETWARCOM's Network Information Operations and SpaceCenter. The amalgamation of capabilities positions NETWARCOM to achieve the vision crafted for the command when it was launched four years ago.

Vice Adm. James D. McArthur Jr., USN, commander, NETWARCOM, explains that merging the NSG into the command particularly will benefit the Navy in the area of information operations.

"NSG used to be an Echelon 2 command under the chief of naval operations located in the National Capital Region. Now it's been subsumed by NETWARCOM, which has given NETWARCOM the opportunity to bring those skill sets into full mission alignment for support to Navy component commanders," he says.

Coordination between the intelligence community and the Navy will help the military dominate the battlespace, especially in the information domain, the admiral states. Attaining this dominance was more difficult under the previous structure. "The alignment of the information operations mission for the Navy under NETWARCOM led to the merger of the NSG with its mission of information operations and, historically, cryptology. This brings together Title 10—man, train and equip—with Title 50—intelligence.



"If you look at the force, the people in [the NSG], it's a mix of Navy-funded billets and National Security Agency- or intelligence community-funded billets. It was an independent Echelon 2 Service Cryptologic Element under a Title 50 application or umbrella. The new alignment under NETWARCOM allows us to appropriately—and you need to qualify it—appropriately mix Title 10 and Title 50 together, particularly in the information domain of the battlespace.

This is still relatively new. It's fairly complex, but the challenge is to be dominant in the information domain, and in order to do so, you need that mix of Title 10 and Title 50. The Navy thought that it had relevance, and it was important in terms of a supporting commander's role. The Navy component commanders and joint forces were willing to make that commitment," he says. U.S. Code Title 50 governs war and national defense activity, particularly in the intelligence realm.

Assembling these capabilities under the NETWARCOM umbrella is important because the command's responsibilities comprise three elements and a complex mission set. The command is a functional, operational commander that supports the Navy's component commanders as well as joint commanders.

In that capacity, it serves as the service's component commander of the U.S. Strategic Command.

In addition, NETWARCOM carries out traditional force commander responsibilities that accommodate its type commander tasks as well as its third role as the chief executive officer of the Naval NETWAR/FORCEnet Enterprise.

- See more at: http://www.afcea.org/content/?q=node/1228#sthash.jkkviK5n.dpuf

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NETWARCOM (http://www.netwarcom.navy.mil)

Naval Network Warfare Command's Mission

Naval Network Warfare Command's mission is to execute tactical-level command and control of Navy Networks and to leverage Joint Space capabilities for Navy and Joint Operations.

Operate the Navy's networks to achieve effective command and control through optimal alignment, common architecture, mature processes and functions, and standard terminology.

Enhance network security posture and improves IT services through standardized enterprise-level management, network information assurance compliance, enterprise management, and root cause and trend analysis.

Deliver enhanced space products to operating forces by leveraging DoD, National, commercial and international space capabilities and serves as the Navy's commercial satellite operations manager.


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U.S. Fleet Cyber Command U.S. TENTH FLEET (http://www.fcc.navy.mil)



NATAMS PAC (http://www.nctamspac.navy.mil)
NCTAMS PAC
Naval Computer and Telecommunications Area Master Station Pacific

Defense.gov News Article: Stratcom, DoD Sign Space Operations Agreement With Allies (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=123236)

By Cheryl Pellerin
DoD News, Defense Media Activity
WASHINGTON, Sept. 23, 2014


Officials from the Defense Department, U.S. Strategic Command and three allied nations signed a memorandum of understanding yesterday on combined space operations to strengthen deterrence, enhance resilience and optimize resources.

At a meeting in Ottawa, Canada, officials from DoD, Stratcom (http://www.stratcom.mil/factsheets/6/JFCC_ISR/), Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom signed the Combined Space Operations, or CSpO, Initiative memorandum of understanding.

The initiative will give participating nations an understanding of the current and future space environment, an awareness of space capability to support global operations and military-to-military relationships to address challenges and ensure the peaceful use of space, DoD officials said.


Operations focus areas
Focus areas for combined space operations include space situational awareness, force support, launch and reentry assessment and contingency operations.

"As space becomes more congested and contested, it is imperative that we work together to ensure we preserve access," Stratcom Commander Navy Adm. Cecil D. Haney said in a statement.

"CSpO agreements afford participating nations an understanding of the current and future space environment, an awareness of space capability to support global operations, and a military-to-military relationship to address challenges," the admiral said, adding that the agreements stress the overarching need to act responsibly in and maintain the peaceful use of space.


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Quote from: thorfourwinds on November 08, 2014, 01:44:25 AM
We didn't see this in Zorgon's Naval Space Command, so we will trace the origin of the present-day Combined Space Operations Initiative (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=b1b791d3ddafcbe04fd404c180567653&tab=core&_cview=1).

Most likely because, as was pointed out to me recently by 21SOPS, Zorgon is sorely out of date   :P

What about THESE guys?  I bet they know the NAMES of those ships Gary saw :P

(http://www.public.navy.mil/spawar/Banner/bannerOverlay.png)

What about this one?  ;)

(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/USASTRATCOM_zps2e982605.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/USASTRATCOM_zps2e982605.jpg.html)

Off my field jacket.  ;D

USASTRATCOM circa. 1972

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 08, 2014, 04:21:03 AM
What about this one?  ;)

Ah! So you were a "signals' guy huh?

8)

Lolol just one lightning bolt! ;D