Dr Eugene Podkletnov Anti-Gravity Scientist gives Rare Interview
Now on Youtube compliments of AlienScientist
Quite interesting
PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQBb76Snx50
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c998mNCjhNE
PART 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRwKSUQbB7E
PART 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzdBafcFQig
PART 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryghiwjq2jI
Eugene Podkletnov(http://www.borderlands.de/gravity.finland_00.jpg)
QuoteDr Yevgeny Podkletnov is a Russian engineer, formerly affiliated with the Materials Science Department at the Tampere University of Technology, Finland, who is best known for his controversial work on a so-called gravity shielding device. Born in Russia in the mid-1950s, Podkletnov graduated with a master's degree from the University of Chemical Technology, Mendeleyev Institute, in Moscow; he then spent 15 years at the Institute for High Temperatures in the Russian Academy of Sciences. Later he received a doctorate in materials science from Tampere University of Technology, and worked at the university, on superconductors, until 1996
Podkletnov's gravity shielding experiments
According to the account Podkletnov gave to reporter Charles Platt in a 1996 phone interview, during a 1992 experiment with a rotating superconducting disk,
Someone in the laboratory was smoking a pipe, and the pipe smoke rose in a column above the superconducting disc. So we placed a ball-shaped magnet above the disc, attached to a balance. The balance behaved strangely. We substituted a nonmagnetic material, silicon, and still the balance was very strange. We found that any object above the disc lost some of its weight, and we found that if we rotated the disc, the effect was increased.
Podkletnov published a paper in 1992 reporting that the weight of an object directly above the disk was decreased. He concluded that the superconducting disk was shielding the Earth's gravitational force above it.
Public controversy
Podkletnov's first peer-reviewed paper on the apparent gravity-modification effect, published in 1992, attracted little notice. In 1996, he submitted a longer paper, in which he claimed to have observed a larger effect (2% weight reduction as opposed to 0.3% in the 1992 paper) to the Journal of Physics D. According to science reporter Charles Platt, a member of the editorial staff, Ian Sample, leaked the submitted paper to Robert Matthews, the science correspondent for the British newspaper, the Sunday Telegraph.
On September 1, 1996, Matthews's story broke, leading with the startling statement: "Scientists in Finland are about to reveal details of the world's first antigravity device." In the ensuing furor, the director of the laboratory where Podkletnov was working issued a defensive statement that Podkletnov was working entirely on his own.[citation needed] In a bizarre twist, Podkletnov's supposed coauthor disavowed prior knowledge of the paper[citation needed], but some[who?] have found this disingenuous. Podkletnov himself complained that he had never claimed to block gravity, only to reduce its effect.
By 1997, Podkletnov had withdrawn his second paper (after it had been initially accepted), was no longer allowed into his former lab in Tampere and had returned to Moscow, where he quietly took an engineering job. (In 1998 he was however reported to be working on superconductors at Tamglass engineering Oy in Tampere.)
Podkletnov's gravity reflection beam
In a second interview (1997) by Wired magazine reporter Charles Platt, Podkletnov told Platt that he was continuing to work on gravitation, claiming that with new collaborators at an un-named "chemical research center" in Moscow he has built a new device. He said:
Normally there are two spheres, and a spark jumps between them. Now imagine the spheres are flat surfaces, superconductors, one of them a coil or O-ring. Under specific conditions, applying resonating fields and composite superconducting coatings, we can organize the energy discharge in such a way that it goes through the center of the electrode, accompanied by gravitation phenomena - reflecting gravitational waves that spread through the walls and hit objects on the floors below, knocking them over...The second generation of flying machines will reflect gravity waves and will be small, light, and fast, like UFOs. I have achieved impulse reflection; now the task is to make it work continuously.
More recently, in collaboration with Italian physicist Giovanni Modanese, Podkletnov has reported on a similar device which he claims generates a coherent gravity repulsion beam. Supporters claim it has been seen to move a pendulum located 150 meters away in another building.Allegedly, Podkletnov has observed that the "backside" of this second device emits "radiation" (not otherwise specified) which seems to be dangerous to biological tissues.
Related work
In 1990, two University of Alabama physicists, Douglas Torr and Ning Li, had predicted that superconducting magnets might reduce the effect of gravity. After Podkletnov's apparent confirmation of this prediction, Torr persuaded David Noever, a colleague at the nearby Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, to attempt to reproduce the gravity shielding experiment.
Torr soon moved to the University of South Carolina and commenced work on a most unusual device. According to Platt, Torr describes this device as a "gravity generator" that can create a force beam in any desired direction. Officials of the University of South Carolina, however, apparently disavowed association with this work (in an interview by reporter Charles Platt), and it seems that Torr is seeking private funding to continue his research.
James Woodward, an adjunct professor of physics at Cal State in Fullerton, CA, claims to have constructed a device which achieves time varied changes in mass using rather ordinary capacitors.[citation needed]
Marcus Hollingshead, a British inventor, claimed in 2002 to have invented a device with similar gravity-modifying effects, though more related to the non-superconducting spinning S.E.G. configuration proposed by John Searl.
In 2006, Martin Tajmar and several coworkers at the Austrian Research Center (ARC) Seibersdorf announced their claim to have measured the gravitomagnetic London moment of Cooper pairs in a superconducting ring spinning at 6500 rpm.[7] Despite the similarity to the apparatus used by Podkletnov, the authors carefully state in their eprint that their claimed result should not be confused with the claims of Podkletnov; specifically, they measured a tangential gravitomagnetic force created by Type I superconductors, (Elemental Lead and Niobium rings at liquid helium temperatures) but failed to measure an axial force from Type II superconductors (YBCO and BSSCO ceramics at liquid nitrogen temperatures) as described by Podkletnov. Thus, their results suggest a magnified form of 'frame dragging' rather than gravity reflection. However, there are major differences between the experiments, such as the method of driving the ring. (In the ARC experiments, the ring was physically driven by a motor, while Podkletnov's experiment levitated and spun the ring using magnetic fields.)
Attempted verification
In his 1997 interview with Charles Platt, Podkletnov insisted that his gravity-shielding work was reproduced by researchers at universities in Toronto and Sheffield, but none have come forward to acknowledge this. The Sheffield work is known to have only been intended as partial replication, aimed at observing any unusual effects which might be present, since the team involved lacked the necessary facilities to construct a large enough disk and the ability to duplicate the means by which the original disk was rotated. Podkletnov counters that the researchers in question have kept quiet "lest they be criticized by the mainstream scientific community". Podkletnov, in fact, visited the Sheffield team in 2000 and advised them on the conditions necessary to achieve his effect - conditions that they never got close to matching.
The group at NASA in Huntsville did not finish their attempts to verify Podkletnov's original gravity shielding experiment. Two attempts were made to repeat the superconductor rotation experiment, one in-house and one through an SBIR. In both cases, large superconductor disks were fabricated. However, in both cases, the funding did not allow for the development of the rotation system needed for the completion of the test. No attempt has been made by NASA to repeat the second impulse experiment.
In a BBC news item, it was alleged that researchers at Boeing were funding a project called GRASP (Gravity Research for Advanced Space Propulsion) which would attempt to construct a gravity shielding device, but a subsequent Popular Mechanics news item stated that Boeing had denied funding GRASP with company money, although Boeing acknowledged that it could not comment on "black projects". A possible solution of this contradiction has been suggested: it is alleged that the GRASP proposal was presented to Boeing, but that Boeing chose not to fund it.
SOURCE: Eugene Podkletnov - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Podkletnov)Related Links:1. ANTI-GRAVITY - Project GRASP (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02documents/Project_Grasp.html) - Pegasus Pages
2. Eugene Podkletnov - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Podkletnov)
3. Boeing Internal Report Looks At Propellentless Propulsion hanging out in Earth's gravity well - London - Aug 01, 2002 (http://www.spacedaily.com/news/rocketscience-02t.html)
4. Boeing develops Anti-gravity propulsion : thecrit.com (http://thecrit.com/2008/06/30/boeing-develops-anti-gravity-propulsion/)
5. GRASP: Gravity Research Advanced Space Propulsion (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/autodynamics/message/1520)
6. Boeing Seeks Antigravity Technology (http://www.starpod.org/news/1110272.htm)
7. New technology from 'black world' (http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/09/05/wow.tech.black.world/) - CNN News
8. Anti-gravity propulsion comes 'out of the closet' (http://web.archive.org/web/20030417082121/http://robocat.users.btopenworld.com/gravity.htm)- Wayback Machine Archive
9. Breaking the Law of Gravity By Charles Platt (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.03/antigravity_pr.html)
10. "Boeing tries to defy gravity" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2157975.stm). BBC News. 2002-07-29
11. Gravity Shielding Still Science Fiction, Boeing Says (http://web.archive.org/web/20040207053951/http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/gravity_research_020731.html) - Space.com
12. ANTI-GRAVITY - Defying the Laws of Gravity - Achieving Anti-Gravity with Superconductor Electromagnetics (http://records.viu.ca/~soules/media112/zine2000/covert/page5.htm)
13. Gravitation: Caught in the gravity trap (http://www.articlesextra.com/gravity-manipulator.htm)Papers:1. Experimental Detection of the Gravitomagnetic London Moment" (http://arxiv.org/ftp/gr-qc/papers/0603/0603033.pdf)
2. Gravity Modification by High Temperature Superconductors (http://pdf.aiaa.org/preview/2001/PV2001_3363.pdf), Woods, Cooke, Helm & Caldwell AIAA (2001)
3. Investigation of High Voltage Discharges in Low Pressure Gases through Large Ceramic Superconducting Electrodes (http://www.springerlink.com/content/r7776814157x6172/fulltext.pdf) - E. Podkletnov and G. Modanese
4. Impulse Gravity Generator Based on Charged YBa_2Cu_3O_{7-y} Superconductor with Composite Crystal Structure (http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0108/0108005v2.pdf) - Evgeny Podkletnov, Giovanni Modanese
5. Weak gravitation shielding properties of composite bulk YBa_2Cu_3O_{7-x} superconductor below 70 K under e.m. field (http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/cond-mat/pdf/9701/9701074v3.pdf) - E.E. PodkletnovRelated ATS threads;1. Anti-gravity and the search for Dr. Ning-Li (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread331108/pg1)
2. Definitive Back Engineered Alien Technology Research thread (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread426021/pg1)
3. Unbelieveable Pics of Nuclear Explosions milliseconds after ... (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread229797/pg1)
4. Anti-Gravity.Holy Grail Of The 21st Century (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread311845/pg1)
5. Scientists Have Prelim Evidence of a Force That Opposes Gravity (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread317985/pg1)
6. Gravity research gets off the ground (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread850/pg1)
New technology from 'black world'By Nick Easen for CNN
Monday, September 8, 2003
Quote(CNN) -- What ground-breaking new technology is kept so secret by the authorities that even to comment on its existence would be to reveal too much?
Welcome to black world technology -- the discrepancy in the defense budgets no-one can explain, and the programs which politicians and officials have the right to deny even exist.
Yet it is big business, not just for those involved in developing the technology, but for the spin-offs that eventually come in the "white world" -- defense jargon for the real world.
"The computers that were secretly developed to go to the moon are now on your desktop," Nick Cook, aerospace consultant for Jane's Defence Weekly told CNN.
"It all ends up in the commercial world in some ways, but black world technology is hard to penetrate in terms of figures and types of programs," he said.
Boeing, the world's largest aircraft manufacturer says it is working on anti-gravity propulsion, which could revolutionize conventional aviation.
If the science underpinning the program can be made into reality, it will be the biggest thing to hit the aviation industry since the Wright Brothers.
"GRASP," or Gravity Research for Advanced Space Propulsion, was only recently reported in Jane's Defence Weekly, but the U.S. military may have had the technology for years.
QuoteThe National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), based in Nevada, say that mysterious U.S. military craft using this kind of technology have been skirting the skies since the 1980s.
And NIDS is now calling for the military to unveil its secrets for commercial benefit.
New technology from 'black world' (http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/09/05/wow.tech.black.world/) - CNN NewsNIDS (The National Institute for Discovery Science) is owned by Robert Bigelow and Hal Puthoff is a member as are several other of the old Aviary group
Anti-gravity propulsion comes 'out of the closet'
Nick Cook
Jane's Defense Weekly, 2002-07-29QuoteBoeing, the world's largest aircraft manufacturer, has admitted that it is working on experimental anti-gravity projects that could overturn a century of conventional aerospace propulsion technology if the science that underpins them - science that senior Boeing officials describe as "valid" - can be engineered into hardware.
As part of the effort, which is being run out of Boeing's Phantom Works advanced research and development facility in Seattle, the company is trying to solicit the services of a Russian scientist who claims he has developed 'high-' and 'low-power' anti-gravity devices in Russia and Finland. The approach, however, has been thwarted by Russian officialdom.
The Boeing drive to develop a collaborative relationship with the scientist in question, Dr Evgeny Podkletnov, has its own internal project name: 'GRASP' - Gravity Research for Advanced Space Propulsion.
A briefing document on GRASP obtained by Jane's Defence Weekly sets out what Boeing believes to be at stake. "If gravity modification is real," it says, "it will alter the entire aerospace business." The report was written by Jamie Childress, principal investigator for Boeing's propellentless propulsion work at the Phantom Works in Seattle.
GRASP's objective is to explore propellentless propulsion (the aerospace world's more formal term for anti-gravity), determine the validity of Podkletnov's work and "examine possible uses for such a technology". Applications, the company says, could include space launch systems, artificial gravity on spacecraft, aircraft propulsion and 'fuelless' electricity generation - so-called 'free energy'.
But it is also apparent that Podkletnov's work could be engineered into a radical form of weapon system. The GRASP paper focuses on Podkletnov's claims that his high-power experiments, using a device called an 'impulse gravity generator', are capable of producing a beam of 'gravity-like' energy that can exert an instantaneous force of 1,000g on any object - enough, in principle, to vaporise it, especially if the object is moving at high speed.
Podkletnov maintains that a laboratory installation in Russia has already demonstrated the 4in (10.16cm) wide beam's ability to repel objects a kilometre away and that it exhibits negligible power loss at distances of up to 200km (JDW 24 July). Such a device, observers say, could be adapted for use as an anti-satellite weapon or a ballistic missile shield.
The GRASP paper details the beam's reported characteristics: that it is immune to electromagnetic shielding, that it can penetrate any intermediate barriers (objects placed between the generator and the target), that it propagates at very high speed ("possibly light speed or greater") and that the total force is proportional to target mass - that its effect, in other words, is exactly the same as gravity's.
Podkletnov's claims first surfaced in 1992 when he published a paper detailing his low-power experiments into gravity-shielding using superconductors, materials that lose their electrical resistance at low temperatures. The original experiments were conducted at the University of Technology in Tampere, Finland, before moving to Russia. Podkletnov, who has a PhD in materials science from Tampere and the University of Chemical Technology in Moscow, declared that any object placed above his rapidly spinning superconducting apparatus lost up to 2% of its weight. Although he was vilified by traditionalists who claimed that gravity-shielding was impossible under the known laws of physics, the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) went on to attempt a replication of his work in the mid-1990s.
Because NASA lacked Podkletnov's unique formula for the 30cm yttrium-barium copper oxide (YBCO) superconducting ceramic discs - a formula the Russian maintains is critical to the experiment's success - the attempt failed. NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama will shortly conduct a second set of experiments, this time using apparatus built to Podkletnov's specifications.
In August 2001, Podkletnov published a paper revealing his experimental high-power work and it is this that forms the focus of the GRASP report. Boeing wants to build its own impulse gravity generator at Seattle but admits that it lacks vital knowledge in the area of the YBCO emitter - Podkletnov's special superconducting apparatus - which forms the heart of the generator.
As a result, Boeing recently approached Podkletnov directly, but promptly fell foul of Russian technology transfer controls. George Muellner, the outgoing head of the Boeing Phantom Works, confirmed that attempts by Boeing to work with Podkletnov had been blocked by Moscow, which is seeking to stem the exodus of Russian high-technology to the West. Muellner is convinced, however, that the science underpinning Podkletnov's work is real.
"The physical principles - and Podkletnov's device is not the only one - appear to be valid," he said. He confirmed that Boeing had conducted tests on a number of other anti-gravity devices, some of which were detailed in JDW 24 July.
"There is basic science there. They're not breaking the laws of physics. The issue is whether the science can be engineered into something workable," Muellner said.
The GRASP briefing document reveals that BAE Systems and Lockheed Martin have also contacted Podkletnov "and have some activity in this area". It is also possible, Boeing admits, that "classified activities in gravity modification may exist". The paper points out that Podkletnov is strongly anti-military and will only provide assistance if the research is carried out in the 'white world' of open development.
GRASP concludes that a "positive result from experiments would give Boeing a substantial advantage in the aerospace industry".
Anti-gravity propulsion comes 'out of the closet' (http://web.archive.org/web/20030417082121/http://robocat.users.btopenworld.com/gravity.htm)- Wayback Machine Archive
These videos are in German
Part two has a short section of Dr Ning Li stating Eugene's work proves her theories
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Auf dem Weg zum UFO - Antrieb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrUgC5BFPgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNOH1Clemn0
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Transcript in German
http://www.science-explorer.de/reports/antigravitation.htm
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SomamechEven after only watching this interview once (these sort of interviews I can watch many times) I picked up some points which are personally rather interesting. :)
The simplicity compared to what occurs now in regards to 'known public' space misisons and how Boeing Phantom works were mentioned.
For those that may have not known... Boeing Phantom Works is entrenched in Australia Officially! What Eugene said in his interview regarding Boeing and what more than a 'few believe or KNOW' in regards to secret craft being operated here in Australia quite excited me.
Boeing Phantom Works Official Announcement:
http://www.boeing.com.au/ViewContent.do?id=35182&Year=2008
QuoteCANBERRA, March 11, 2008 – Boeing [NYSE: BA] formally launched today an Australian branch of its Phantom Works advanced research and development unit to better support its businesses in Australia and partner with researchers there on the development of mutually beneficial technologies.
"Establishing Phantom Works in Australia expands Boeing's 80-year relationship with this country by introducing exciting new technology opportunities for both of us," said John Tracy, Boeing senior vice president of Engineering, Operations & Technology and chief technology officer. "It's also another example of how Boeing is partnering with the best technologists in the world to develop innovative aerospace solutions to meet our customers' needs."
The new Phantom Works branch will provide a centralised advanced R&D organisation for Boeing's businesses in the country and serve as a focal point for continued collaboration with Australian R&D organisations, including universities and private sector R&D providers, the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) and the Defence Science and Technology Organisation (DSTO).
The interview rolled up a few topics all in one which interest me ;D
Gravitation: Caught in the gravity trapHere is yet another article that shows the mind set of the 'professional' community
Although Dr. Podkletnov fires our imagination: In professional circles, he is still considered a hoax. Up front with this idea is Dr. Martin Tajmar, who is one of the worldwide leading scientists in this field and has often tried to re-enact the Russian's experiments. Every single time with a negative result: "If my name was Podkletnov, and I managed to prove a manipulation of gravity, why would I not call CNN and have them report it live instead of turning it into a little mystery for myself?"
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Picture by Evgeny Podkletnov
Gravitation: Caught in the gravity trap (http://www.articlesextra.com/gravity-manipulator.htm)Superconductor Levitationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWTSzBWEsms
Magnet levitates with the help of a ceramic and liquid nitrogen. Pretty cool. I did not perform this video. Its actually Professor Tom H. Johansen in the Superconductor Laboratory at the University of Oslo, Norway who performed it. Thank you Prof. Johansen for contacting me!
QuoteOriginally posted bygigas
Now that reaction is rather peculiar. Look at how the metal ring bobs above the magnet. It shows similar characteristics of a UFO we see flitting about and spinning with jerky movements.
It's called the Meissner Effect... but what Eugene said in the video was that their team found you can do it without using super conductors, and use rotating magnetic fields instead
Here are some Meissner Effect videos. There are lots on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBsxylW2Z0
ANTI-GRAVITY
Defying the Laws of GravityQuoteHow did Podkletnov accurately measure his claimed 2% weight reduction? Podkletnov used a mercury manometer which was placed above the disc. The manometer is similar to a barometer, and when placed above the superconductor, the disc recorded a 4-mm reduction in air pressure primarily to a reduction in the weight of the air. Podkletnov took his mercury manometer to a lab directly above the superconductor disk one story below. He found exactly the same result as if his experiment was generating an invisible column of decreased gravity extending upward indefinitely into space.
Covert Technology (http://records.viu.ca/~soules/media112/zine2000/covert/page5.htm)
Presented by: Graham Stevenson and Dylan Touhey Just for comparison
Magnetic Levitation...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDXtPMtyKPk
Acoustic Levitation Chamber (turn volume down :P )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94KzmB2bI7s
Eugene Podkletnov on Gravity Shielding
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QuoteDr. Eugene Podkletnov discusses gravity shielding effects in rotating superconductors and recent experiments with a gravity impulse generator. Podkletnov achieved notoriety when publishing on gravity shielding in 1996, when pipe smoke rising in a column above a rotating superconductor became the precipitating event that led him into detailed investigation of the gravity shielding effect. He describes the experimental elements of his research and hypothesizes on a number of models that may explain his findings.
Podkletnov first published on the topic of gravity shielding effects in superconductors back in 1992, and achieved notoriety in the media when he submitted an article on the effect to the "Journal of Physics D". The story was leaked to the press and initially published in the British "Sunday Telegraph" newspaper, and was subsequently was picked up by other publications around the world. Podkletnov has indicated that despite the publicity this provided for his research, it also led to negative feedback from peers in the scientific community, and ultimately pushed him towards private financing for his research.
Podkletnov described the discovery of this gravity shielding effect as a smoke from a colleague's pipe rose in a column above the rotating superconducting disk, which prompted him to perform measurements that eventually led to him believe that a gravity shielding effect was occurring. Seeking to demonstrate a more pronounced gravity shielding effect, over time he constructed larger superconducting disks, and has additionally proposed stacking arrays of rotating disks as a means for multiplying the gravity shielding effect based on existing experimental designs.
Over the last few years, Podkletnov has continued his research, and published a joint paper with Dr. Giovanni Modanese describing a "Gravity Impulse Generator" capable of producing a non-diverging beam of what appeared to be gravitational force emanating from a superconductor. The impulse generator departed from Podkletnov's earlier experiments in that it used a mounted, stationary superconducting emitter bombarded by a high-voltage discharge in a high-intensity magnetic field, rather than simply rotating a superconducting disk as in his previous gravity shielding experiments.
Podkletnov's research has been closely followed by NASA, and a replication of the initial superconductive gravity shielding test was attempted in 2001 by NASA's Ron Koczor and Tony Robertson of NASA Glenn research center, who performed tests on a superconductive disk designed by Podkletnov and built by SCI Engineered Materials. However, the replication achieved only 200 rpm of the required 5,000 rpm and failed achieve a measurable result.
Eugene Podkletnov on Gravity Shielding (http://www.americanantigravity.com/audio/eugene-podkletnov-on-gravity-shielding.html) - American Antigravity
Eugene Podkletnov on Gravity Shielding [ 23:11 ] (http://www.americanantigravity.com/podpress_trac/web/983/0/Eugene-Podkletnov-Normalized.mp3) - [MP3][Archived]
John Searl
Using rotating magnetic fields was also something considered by
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The John Searl Story (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/03PDF_files/John_Searl_Story.pdf) - [PDF][Archived]
Searl Effect Technology (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02files/Searl_Effect.html)
I also noticed he was very nervous and even mentioned he was afraid where this would lead. Let's hope he stays off the 'missing' list. As you say he has been around with this work for some time.
I did not know that Senator John Glenn was involved in the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics project... more homework :(
QuoteStatus of the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics (BPP) Project All NASA support to sustain cognizance on these possibilities has been withdrawn as of October 1, 2008. The final NASA contribution was to assist in the compilation of a graduate-level technical book, Frontiers of Propulsion Science, which is due out in early 2009. This book (750 pages, hardback) will be volume 227 of the series, Progress in Astronautics and Aeronautics Series, which will be published by American Institute for Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA).
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/Several papers there but I notice Eugene's work is not even listed
If i may, i have a few comments ;)
First, the idea that 'black' tech sometimes leaks into the 'white' world is definitely real. The Z80 processor was originaly designed to run missiles, somehow Clive Sinclair got hold of them (probably because there were millions of them lying around after being superceded by the next generation) and he made his first small, affordable home computer (the first competition for Apple probably)
Podkletnov;
In his book, LaViolette reasons that the 'pulse generator' and Brown's discs were actually 2 sides of the same effect.
I tend to agree, adding that Podkletnov & Modanses, (& a third man, Obolonsky, or similar, i'm bad with names) actually measured the velocity of this 'wave' & found it to be at least 64 times the speed of light.
I tend to agree with that one, too.
Searl;
This is much more tricky, i have tons of data on him, his theory is 'unusual' at least, expressed in a Rodin-type 'magic numbers'game. I'm not debunking Searl as yet, he does have some great insight & technical knoweledge, but he is also more than slightly eccentric, and i still need to see a complete SEG with all 3 rings before i am convinced.
If you like, i will put everything i have on him on my site, & post the links back here
Ive seen these films, & i know Alienscientist, he's a good source.....
Update; I have posted a ton of files about Searl on my site, in the My files/Theory folder.
Be warned, Searl is quite profane at times, & if you read his 'inventions' notes, you may come to the conclusion that he is nutty as a fruitcake.
If you want tech details, go straight to the 'SEG progress notes' folder.
The SEG/IGV concept in itself is quite brilliant, but i have no way of confirming if it works, i would treat it with some caution if i were you...
PWM,
Could you explain what you meant by this regarding Dads discs?
"Podkletnov;
In his book, LaViolette reasons that the 'pulse generator' and Brown's discs were actually 2 sides of the same effect.
I tend to agree, adding that Podkletnov & Modanses, (& a third man, Obolonsky, or similar, i'm bad with names) actually measured the velocity of this 'wave' & found it to be at least 64 times the speed of light.
I tend to agree with that one, too.
Since you are just agreeing with what Dr. LaViolette has said here maybe we could both ask him to be more specific by his meaning.... but could you go first with your understanding of what he meant?
Linda
Hi, Zorgon, have you been reading my files? :D
Thanks for posting this,yet again, you have saved me a ton of work!
Feel free to browse the 'gravity' folder and post anything you find there: i would consider it an honour, and you may find some interesting links! :)
For the rest of you; I know Podkletnov well, he is someone we should all listen to, IMHO.... :o
Sorry, Linda, i missed that post, please forgive me :-[
I meant that we should pay close attention to Podkletnov's work, the speed of gravity (i have long suspected) is indeed much faster than light.
I can't explain it right now, but it all adds up, if you follow me.... :D
I will ask Amy if she will forward this question to Dr. LaViolette, i will be more than happy to talk with him...
PWM
Linda:
I meant that i had read somewhere in your father's notebooks that he questioned the commonly-held theory that gravity waves propagated at the speed of light.
My theory is that gravity is not bound by Relativity, and may well travel much faster than light, Tesla said as much also, and i am beginning to see why.
It was, therefore, no great surprise when i read Podkletnov's work, and i too, am eager to see what Paul LaViolette has to say.....
PWM
I was just nine when I asked my Dad about Einsteins theories and how it was that he thought that nothing could go faster than the speed of light.
I was leading a fat Welsh Mountain Pony at the time and had been riding pretty hard, bareback... Mike had to be " cooled down" before I put him out in his pasture . Dad had just come in from Washington and been dropped off by Dr. Sarbacher.... Dad had walked out to join me and we slowly walked and talked about the fact that Einstein had just died... and what his theories actually meant.
Watch how Dad got his point across to me... Remember... I was just nine years old and interested in HORSES not science! I was a challenge for him I think!
I write this better in " The Good-Bye Man" but....here is a rephrasing.... He asked me how fast I thought Mike could run. I remember quoting him some figure, maybe 25 mph.... downhill I considered... with me riding bareback... some sort of response like that. He told me that Mike would represent the speed of light. And that Einstein was saying that nothing could go faster than Mike could run.... but then he turned to me and simply said..." But sweetie.... the Creator has a stableful of thoroughbreds that NEVER GO SLOWER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT.
That made perfect sense to me then and it still does.
Linda
Luke,
Got an answer from Dr. LaViolette:
QuoteMy view is that in most cases gravitational disturbances propagate at the speed of light, i.e., like when a mass moves from one place to another. Van Flandern's claim that gravity propagates superluminally is flawed. His conclusions were based on the assumption that gravity involves a mechanical impact of little bullets.
On the other hand gravitational shocks associated with electric shock discharges travel superluminally because the shock propels the ether forward in the direction of gravity wave travel. This is why Podkletnov gets the results he does. This interpretation of Podkletnov's beam and the Obolensky experiment is presented in Chapter 6 of my book Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion
(etheric.com/LaVioletteBooks/Book-Secrets.html).
Also in Subquantum Kinetics I theorize that quantum interconnectedness propagates spin information superluminally because electrogravitic soliton beams develop between particles, these being formed by the mutual interference of superluminal pulsations occurring near the centers of each subatomic particle.
Best regards,
Paul LaViolette
Linda,
I love the way Your dad explained the superluminal particles. I loved it when I read TGM, and it sounded just as good here. [smile]
How wonderful it is that Dr. LaViolette has answered the question though. I really appreaciate that even though it might take me awhile to understand what he is actually saying here... I just don't have the "handle" on the terminology that scientists would automatically have.
"On the other hand gravitational shocks associated with electric shock discharges travel superluminally because the shock propels the ether forward in the direction of gravity wave travel."
I have the strangest urge here to just say.... its just faster when you " go with the flow" but of course that is being rudely simplistic!!!
Also in Subquantum Kinetics I theorize that quantum interconnectedness propagates spin information superluminally because electrogravitic soliton beams develop between particles, these being formed by the mutual interference of superluminal pulsations occurring near the centers of each subatomic particle.
And I definitely have to read your book Dr. LaViolette because as simple as I know that sounds to you.... I got dumped off of this pony pretty quickly! I am familiar with the phrase " Quantum Entanglement". Is that what is meant here too?
Because I theorize that quantum interconnectedness propagates spin information superluminally because electrogravitic soliton beams develop between particles,
I will try to figure out what you have actually said here by myself but I wonder what is meant by " quantum interconnectedness propagates spin information"
What do you mean by " spin information" particularly?
superluminally because electrogravitic soliton beams develop between particles
Electrogravitic soliton beams develop between particles??? I truly do not understand that. As I said... I have so much to learn!
Thank you for responding. Linda
Thank you, Amy, for communicating this, it does answer some of my questions, and while i myself am having difficulty understanding the terminology, i can see what he's getting at.
There must be a 'threshold energy level' for superluminal gravity, and i think T.T. knew this, certainly the 'improved' Marx generator used by Podkletnov was modified to give an extremely high voltage gradient, (or a very short spark in laymans terms). The quicker the change in voltage over time, the more pronounced the effect.
The real problem, then, is one of ensuring a continued thrust in the form of a stream of EG shocks, operating at a very high frequency, possibly using microwave feedback, like project Skyvault perhaps?
Astronomers are taught to calculate gravitational effects (over interstellar distances) as being instantaneous, yet they never ask 'how can this be?'
Anything I can do to help. Dr. LaViolette again ignored My invite, so I'm guessing We will not be seeing Him here.
It's not a problem, he's probably lurking 8)
IF i had a reputation of any kind, I would be hesitant about joining forums, you never know who's listening, i wouldn't want to stick my neck out too far...
Luckily, i have no reputation and nothing to lose, so i can say what i want. ;D ;D
He did give us an nswer of sorts, and i am satisfied with it, if he sees something that he wouls feel needs to be corrected, he will contact us, i am sure...
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 29, 2012, 09:54:40 PM
It's not a problem, he's probably lurking 8)
IF i had a reputation of any kind, I would be hesitant about joining forums, you never know who's listening, i wouldn't want to stick my neck out too far...
Luckily, i have no reputation and nothing to lose, so i can say what i want. ;D ;D
He did give us an nswer of sorts, and i am satisfied with it, if he sees something that he wouls feel needs to be corrected, he will contact us, i am sure...
I agree, PWM, as he gave a ton of info in that short reply!
Gravitational waves are just there, so to visualize them travelling isnt necessary, finding the way to attach to them and ride them is though, so thanks immensely Dr L. it is an honor to read those personal words of yours.
I will be trying to gather all of the meaning in that post tonight, and thats a good read for a Sunday evening!
It sounds like youve got the best handle on what was said there, though, Luke, so go get 'em!
I think when Linda got thrown from the pony, we landed in the same pile, as Im a bit lost, too:D
Still thinkin bout those neutrinos......
Littleenki
Too much credit for a humble armchair scientist like me :D
Chapter 6 is deep, and it shares something with Bearden's analysis, and also something from String theory.
'Energy' has 2 components, an amplitude, or 'how much'.
And it has information, or 'what kind', 'when' etc
So does mass, but that's another thread in itself.
The 'amplitude' is a vector, and can only propagate at relatively low speeds, depending on the medium etc.
The 'information' is scalar, and is not limited in speed.
The 'information' can travel instantly to another place/dimension, making use of the locally present energy/mass when it gets there. I say 'when' but it takes no time at all.
Very much like Hobbit's description of the 'memory field'.
A neutrino will be expected to depart, travel, & arrive, according to coordinates dictated by the field.
T.T. Brown seems to have been fully engaged in looking for the source to disturbances in the EG field, which he theorised may be coming from the galactic centre, and should therefore have a natural explanation.
I think that is what kept him busy, rather than the practical applications of his discoveries, which had already been taken over by the military.
Am i right, Linda? (about your father, i mean)
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 30, 2012, 11:46:40 AM
Too much credit for a humble armchair scientist like me :D
Chapter 6 is deep, and it shares something with Bearden's analysis, and also something from String theory.
'Energy' has 2 components, an amplitude, or 'how much'.
And it has information, or 'what kind', 'when' etc
So does mass, but that's another thread in itself.
The 'amplitude' is a vector, and can only propagate at relatively low speeds, depending on the medium etc.
The 'information' is scalar, and is not limited in speed.
The 'information' can travel instantly to another place/dimension, making use of the locally present energy/mass when it gets there. I say 'when' but it takes no time at all.
Very much like Hobbit's description of the 'memory field'.
A neutrino will be expected to depart, travel, & arrive, according to coordinates dictated by the field.
T.T. Brown seems to have been fully engaged in looking for the source to disturbances in the EG field, which he theorised may be coming from the galactic centre, and should therefore have a natural explanation.
I think that is what kept him busy, rather than the practical applications of his discoveries, which had already been taken over by the military.
Am i right, Linda? (about your father, i mean)
Ive seen that armchair, and it's full of knowledge! PWM youre right on again!
I like to envision the neutrinos as a roadmap or gps, and what I think linda's dad was also wondering was where do they come from, and where do they go back to. If we follow the neutrinos through their progression in our observable world we may find they are like following a criminal back to his lair, and when we get to the lair, well, it probably will be the center of our galaxy.
I feel they are showing us how to "ride the field" that exists through everything, and I also feel they will be ultimately found to be the interstate across space, when we devise a way to mimic their flow, instead of trying to "catch" them.
I could be way off, but hey, didnt the Wright brothers build a few flops first?
Cheers!
Littleenki
My Dad had a strange concept of what he called " Ashtray Products"
Not many people understood what he meant by that.... but almost every solid technical device and concept that he uncovered he considered an ashtray Product" compared to what he was REALLY after and saw very early in his work.
In the twenties and thirties he understood that he could make hang an instrument and .... against all of the current " laws of physics".... it would develop movement. Normally most would have concentrated on refining that new propulsion principle.... but he saw something else at the same time..... he saw that the "movement"..... was varied depending on certain times of the day or the month...and it seemed to have a pattern. That fascinated him.
What that was and what it represented became the prime investigation for him......and when that happened he honed his activities in ways that were not totally understood. Even now.
You hit it when you said this PWM
T.T. Brown seems to have been fully engaged in looking for the source to disturbances in the EG field, which he theorised may be coming from the galactic centre, and should therefore have a natural explanation.
I think that is what kept him busy, rather than the practical applications of his discoveries, which had already been taken over by the military.
That search " kept him busy" for the rest of his life...You have missed something though in your last sentence..... practical applications... which had been taken over by the military? Yes... some of his " ashtray products" I believe were handed off to the military. I believe I was there when the system which finally was developed for the B2 was handed off to Northrop in 1967.... ( The strange meeting at RAND in Santa Monica).... After years and years of working with the " fan" I came home after that meeting and Dad said that I should consider starting my own life away from the lab... that the project was being closed down.
details here http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/49963
Now, many of you would have thought that I would have felt crushed but actually I was like a bird who had noticed suddenly that my cage door was open. BAM! I was GONE!
you say " taken over by the military" and I can vouch for that in that one instance.... Curtis LeMay himself was spending time with us that summer.....(he even changed a light bulb over my desk for me which is something I will never EVER forget....and also my embarrassment later at realizing that the businessmen standing with him.... one was McNamara..... in 1967.... I should have recognized him but sadly.... did not.....Funny now looking back.....the gentleman just shook his head as the man some had called " Iron Pants LeMay" climbed up on a rickety office chair.... ( on rollers yet) to replace that light bulb. It was Daddy he was doing it for..not really me... I was just sort of an invisible fixture in the lab....LeMay followed Dad around like a fawning puppy.... which again I found unusual. That November meetings were being held there at RAND and with Floyd Odlum.....for those who have done their homework... maybe more dots will rise to the surface. What was going on was extremely high level and VERY military so you are right in assuming what you have.
But there is something going on UNDER that... something that Dad considered even more important.
The variations..... communications....he eventually called it the " nervous system of the universe" and I believe that he understood that it could be used for other beings to communicate with those who saw what it was. That.... the " military" never saw.
"Ride the field?" As good a description as any Littleenki! Linda
Good, i'm just trying to keep it all on track.
I think they saw the potential in those 'ashtray' products, they could not release any of it, even as 'toys'. It would mean giving away the same secrets as were being developed for the bomber.
Once i have some time & more equipment set up, i will also start looking for those cosmic signals, along with other things.
It seems to me we are closing some gaps here & there, your research is phenominal, Linda, i barely have time to read it all.
But what is important is that others, who also have some info, will read it.
It's a fascinating story, i bet Hollywood will beat a path to your door soon 8)
Quote"Ride the field?" As good a description as any Littleenki! Linda
Hey, Linda, Im getting my surfboard ready, and my electroscope, too, PWM!
I do say surf it, because that approaching wave feels like it's about to crest, and I want to have that board waxed up for the occasion!
LE
Very interesting stuff.
I have been going through the videos,but I am not done yet.
I found this interesting link associated with the videos.
http://www.americanantigravity.com/ (http://www.americanantigravity.com/)
Great stuff!
This video is a must,describing the physics of anti-gravity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ