How much credibility do members here give Carol Rosin?
In my personal opinion, she is an eel.
I think at least some of what Rosin said was true. However, that does not make her credible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuHyRyDRKhE
Dr Carol Rosin: Journey to Sign the Treaty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuHyRyDRKhE&feature=player_embedded)
THE LAST CARD: The Journey
Background:?As von Braun told Carol, there would be many false justifications leading to the deployment of space-based weapons, but "the last card" would be the need to defend ourselves from the alien/extraterrestrial threat. But as he assured her, this would be yet another lie that perpetuates the War Game because the ETs have proven not to be hostile. Working close to Dr. von Braun at Fairchild Industries during the last years of his life, she became the first female corporate manager in the aerospace industry.
Since his death in 1977, Carol has continued to devote her life to the fulfillment of her promise to von Braun to get a ban of all space-based weapons. Such a ban will help to unify consciousness and open minds and portals to universes as well as to a Space Age vision that will produce a new kind of economic and security system and provide needed and unlimited benefits and opportunities for all sacred life.
The weapons-free exploration and development of outer space is grand enough to, and will, transform and replace the war industry and its mindset. The OUTER SPACE SECURITY AND DEVELOPMENT TREATY makes the accomplishment of this vision feasible...but only with your help.
Resources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaWpKhEaqkw
2012 Prepare for the Alien Invasion First Contact - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaWpKhEaqkw&feature=related)
UN to appoint Alien Ambassador (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-09/27/alien-ambassador)?
I can't watch the video for some reason.
I had a rethink on my initial post. Maybe she's not an eel, but she really creeps me out and I can't figure out why. The hair? Maybe it's the hair.
Anyway, why would she tell us what WvB said? Because she's a hippy and really doesn't like weapons? Look who she worked for. Is she corporate or is she a hippy? Are the two compatible?
I suggest that her "revelation" from WvB is a staged release of information, in accordance with the plan, and that she is a gov disinfo agent.
The plan is defined as whatever it is that TPTB are up to in secret with respect to this whole ET thing.
You can call me crazy now.
EDIT - I can't help it. I just don't buy that WvB would change his Nazi spots and go all anti-weapon on us. I think he'd definitely be onboard a space weapons project.
What? No one has an opinion about Carol Rosin?
I've got a battery on my shoulder. Knock it off. I dare ya'.
C'mon. C'MON!
Hello? :o
Yes, I do have an opinion.
Quote from: Book on March 18, 2013, 10:01:54 PM
I suggest that her "revelation" from WvB is a staged release of information, in accordance with the plan, and that she is a gov disinfo agent.
The plan is defined as whatever it is that TPTB are up to in secret with respect to this whole ET thing.
Perhaps it is part of a not so sinister long term plan to bring us all together as one planet against the use of weapons in space and eventually on Earth. Perhaps the plan also involves the institution of a one world, non-capitalist, peace loving culture in a world where technology is used to enhance our lives and not kill or exploit each other.
Perhaps I'm crazy. :o
Quote from: Book on March 18, 2013, 10:01:54 PM
You can call me crazy now.
OK, you're crazy too. :P
Quote from: Book on March 18, 2013, 10:01:54 PM
EDIT - I can't help it. I just don't buy that WvB would change his Nazi spots and go all anti-weapon on us. I think he'd definitely be onboard a space weapons project.
Because he was first and foremost an engineer/scientist and not a NAZI. To be successful you had to join the NAZI party. It's like being a senior person in the US administration is a lot easier if you work for the Council on Foreign Relations. ;)
I'll sit by my dish. :'(
Quote from: Book on March 18, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
In my personal opinion, she is an eel.
Did you say an eel? :o
Is Carol Rosin Credible? Houston we have a problem...
A long time ago... in a not so far away Galaxy...
Along came the Disclosure Project.
Zorgon thought... "Kewl... finally the real deal... insiders that will testify before congress!!!!"
Then the years passed... and no disclosure. Some interesting statements by some people with colored ribbons on their chest, but nothing solid
Since then Steven Greer has shown his true colors selling alien hunting trips to the gullible for $1.000.00 plus a head to take pictures of glowing moths. He makes so much money and rubs our noses in it...
Then I see those guys that talk about the UFO's that interfered with our Nuke Base. On close examination of that story it is more likely that the Plasma Critters were curious and their mere EM presence set off the old warning buzzers which triggered an auto shutdown
Then I listen to Sgt Karl Wolf... He spins us a good sounding tale of NASA coverup using photoshop. Wee okay we all know that :P... but his story tells that he was at a Langley facility for TWO WEEKS in May/June 1965 as a copy machine repairman and was shown classified moon base photos. He says they were from Lunar Orbiter... WOW cool eh? We hunt for anomalies all the time in those :D But then you see the videos of him and the use CLEMENTINE images from 1994... and then you realize that if he was working there in May/June 1965 he could not possibly have seen Lunar Orbiter pictures because..... the fist Lunar orbiter didn't launch until November 1966
So about Carol... I often quote that "Four manufactured Enemy" thing she claims von Braun said before he died. Well we only have her word for that and it's the main 'sales pitch' she has.. so since I know von Braun quit NASA over the arming of space (despite his exNAZI affiliation) I figured it was plausible he said that.
It certainly fits the facts;
1)Russians : the Cold War was a ruse to arm up both sides. Russia and US have always been allies since the NAZI, even if on the public front they rattled sabers
2) Terrorists: Well since 9/11 terrorist are everywhere and even every cop show on TV is doing terroists (except NCIS... each time someone says 'terrorist' they find its a local explanation :P )
3) Asteroids: Well the past few months have seen more and more asteroids inside the moon's orbit, exploding over Russia and visible comets than in the past 50 years
4 False Flag Aliens: The only one left :P
BUT.... recently I found Carol Rosin on facebook. One of her friends made a post about some YT video and she literally pounced on that guy and said "There are no space weapons"
So being me :P I proceeded to post several items that proved that there were indeed space weapons already up there. I even commented that the first time I ever heard of her was regarding space weapons.
Her reply to me was gruff, basically saying "Well some people will fantasize about anything. There are no space weapons. I have studied this for many years and I should know"
Before I could reply the posts were deleted, the OP thread was deleted and I was unfriended
So since I know for a fact that there are space weapons and have already proved it here, my opinion of her and all those on the Disclosure Project is...
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Nice Zorg, very nice. I always thought the Sgt. A copier repairman, actually had access to classified moon pics. I use to know a little about access to classified material. ;)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on March 19, 2013, 02:11:25 AM
Nice Zorg, very nice. I always thought the Sgt. A copier repairman, actually had access to classified moon pics.
I did too for a long time... I completely missed the date issue. I even made a page on him on the website. Wasn't until I got into the Copernicus pics when I met John that it sunk in, and even then only when someone brought him up again.
QuoteI use to know a little about access to classified material. ;)
Yeah so I heard :P So what... do we have to wait till your death bed confessions to get the goods?
::)
I've missed you, zorgon. 8)
EDIT - Thanks for the info on WvB. I've read a lot of books but there is still so much I don't know about everything.
Glad I found you guys.
4) False Flag Aliens:
Here is a photo proving they are working on that now... someone should send this to Phage :P
Military black ops special unit preparing for false flag alien abductions
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577719_355909837860817_845172266_n.jpg)
Or? On the set of 'Close Encounters' ;D
It's a shame you can't find one on a cigarette break. LOL
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on March 19, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
Or? On the set of 'Close Encounters' ;D
Greetings,
Grandpa Sarge:
Julia Phillips was a good friend of ours and there were 'more than a few' "Close Encounters" on the set - or so she said.
Julia told us on several occasions about some really strange things associated with the making of the movie.
But, that's another story.
Just remember the movie and its impression made on you - or not.
We wonder if this set of visuals will trigger any latent embeds?
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/CloseEncounters1.jpg)
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(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/16-31%20March%202013%20SNAPPY/CloseEncounters4.jpg)
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Yes it brings back many memories. I first saw it at the Ft. Amador Panama movie theater while I was stationed in Panama.
I watch it religiously once a month or so hoping for some pathetic clue. Then I got to thinking about a couple of things.
Devil's Tower reminds me of the incomplete pyramid and the ship becomes the eye. Why did they pick DT and not some other place? Was it that it had to be somewhat unique?
Why did they pick a French film director to play the part he played? Why French?
What is the deal with the five tones? What don't I get, again?
Lastly, why can't this sh*t happen to me? Too dumb. ET never lands and asks for the Village Idiot! :P :o
Quote from: VillageIdiot on March 24, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
Why French?
...because the Frenchman in Close encounters was supposed to be Jacque Valee MJ12 (07) and 'Partridge' in the Aviary
...project SERPO, now completely messed up with disinfo was the real incident that the movie portrays, but thanks to Bill Ryan of Camelot no one will ever take anything to do with SERPO seriously
Quote from: VillageIdiot on March 24, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
I watch it religiously once a month or so hoping for some pathetic clue. Then I got to thinking about a couple of things.
Devil's Tower reminds me of the incomplete pyramid and the ship becomes the eye. Why did they pick DT and not some other place? Was it that it had to be somewhat unique?
Why did they pick a French film director to play the part he played? Why French?
What is the deal with the five tones? What don't I get, again?
Lastly, why can't this sh*t happen to me? Too dumb. ET never lands and asks for the Village Idiot! :P :o
Greetings, esteemed Member
VillageIdiot:
GOLD Great questions and welcome to PRC.
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Quote from: VillageIdiot on March 24, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
What is the deal with the five tones? What don't I get, again?
The five tones are scales... and the correspond to Curwen hand signs developed by John Curwen in the late 1800's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Curwen
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/Curwen_Hand_Signs_MT.jpg/379px-Curwen_Hand_Signs_MT.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Kgzn3tDQU
The hand signs were also used in the movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWf7sAA-Z8s
Here is the transcript if you can read music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8_7r45wl2s
Wow, thanks! I have no idea what that means. The GOLD, I mean :o :P
Again I need to learn who this Vallee guy is. I know this is basic stuff. Where do you guys dig up this information? I'm reading the wrong stuff. Its obviously not in the local library. (No, I haven't been reading crap.) :P
I'm off to read about Jacques. Will he Google or can you provide a source?
This place IS gold.
»»» I see "Z" posted while I've been writing. I can't see the vids and some of the pics that are posted on this site. Anything that is Flash doesn't work on my phone, which is how I access the net. (Hello NSA)
zorgon, "te" looks very familiar to me from classical paintings? Is there a connection? Is it a coincidence that it's ET backwards?
I like this guy. He theorized about something I happen to have some info about. I agree that these things are interdimensional and that they exist right next to us.
I don't like Wiki, but that's where I went first. He witnessed the destruction of tapes it says. Is that in reference to what everyone calls the "Black Knight" satellite? That's something else that fascinates. Never did find an explanation for that. Oberg jumped my sh*t about it once.
Vallee's mentor was Hynek! Awesome.
Quote from: VillageIdiot on March 24, 2013, 01:27:08 AM
Wow, thanks! I have no idea what that means. The GOLD, I mean :o :P
old Saying
"A fool and his gold are soon parted" :P
QuoteAgain I need to learn who this Vallee guy is. I know this is basic stuff. Where do you guys dig up this information? I'm reading the wrong stuff. Its obviously not in the local library. (No, I haven't been reading crap.) :P
Actually the library was where I first heard about Jacque Vallee :P He is about as basic as it gets in UFO circles. i think he is still alive actually.. will have to check
QuoteWill he Google
yes
I've got to admit after reading about SERPO on ATS and Avalon, I disregarded it as a farce.
If Zorgon has some faith in the story, I guess I'll have to back and re-think think things..
Quote from: Sinny on March 29, 2013, 01:29:07 PM
I've got to admit after reading about SERPO on ATS and Avalon, I disregarded it as a farce.
If Zorgon has some faith in the story, I guess I'll have to back and re-think think things..
AFOSI (Air Force Office of Special Investigations) were involved with SERPO, so if there is any truth to it, that will be hard to discern.
I suspect that what was depicted in Spielbergs, Close Encounters movie, was based on genuine plans and ideas that were in place in certain circles who had an interest in contact. Who knows, perhaps it may have been attempted. Whether it actually happened is impossible to know as we have no concrete evidence either way.
Normally though, AFOSI jump on material like this and try to use it to keep attention away from other programs they do not want on the public or foreign intelligence radar. It also makes it easier to know who are the movers and shakers in the field if there is a massive fuss about something. If US intel disinfo gets the attention then foreign intel have a harder time manipulating the situation and other little games are also played.
I know for a fact that during SERPO, Bill Ryan was hanging out at a mojor UFO conference with none other than AFOSI Special Agent Richard Doty. Doty is famous for his part in disseminating disinformation into the UFO scene - notably the Paul Bennewitz and the Dulce fiasco. Bennewitz ended up becoming delusional and paranoid before spending a month in a mental health unit - but not before he had published masses of nonsense about a multi levelled joint alien human base beneath the Dulce Mesa.
UFOlogy is yet to recover its credibility in the wake of the affair. AFOSI appear to have run the operation in order to draw attention from the fact that Bennewitz filmed strange craft and secret high energy beam weapons or radar at Kirtland Air Force Base. The NSA also got involved after they were informed (likely by AFOSI) that Bennewitz (an electronics genius) had intercepted secret signals from a secret project and wrongly thought they were aliens communicating from the craft. They even gave him equipment to "decode" the signals which they loaded with trigger words that would reinforce his belief that aliens were living under Dulce and eating human body parts among other things.
All of this kept the real covert programs out of the public eye by driving a lot of real researchers away from what looked like a lunatic field. It also meant most people forgot that Paul had really filmed stuff (most of the pictures and film were stolen by AFOSI and the NSA I think although copies of some can be obtained).
Poor Paul and poor UFOlogy. So (sorry AFOSI) what did Paul film and photograph? I imagine it is old hat now and the need for the secrecy has diminished - and I want to know! :P
It's interesting that everyone who comes in contact with ET goes nuts. The same thing happened to me. I was zapped with "The Eye" and I haven't been the same since. I went utterly mad for three years, which is why I'm the "Resident Loon".
These things are real.
Note: "The Eye" - I recoiled and knew immediately that something had been done to me.
ET can disembody and inhabit anyone. In my case, it inhabited a close friend of mine. I view it as a program akin to Mr. Smith in "The Matrix".
You want the ultimate freak-out? Meet ET.
@ Pimander -
Good point, if there was any truth to the SERPO fiasco, i'd still be pushed trying to find any real info.
Mind you, although I do believe in 'aliens', SERPO just sounds mental aha... Of Course Bill Ryan made a mess of it, but the story was messy enough without people jumping on the band wagon.
Not that we can say anything for certain of course. Every time I think I have this ET situation understood, something will always pop up to make me second guess my original theory.
@Villiage Idiot - Glad to say I've not gone nuts yet! Aha but I'm only a baby, so I may have all that to come! :o
I've observed a handful of UFO's, and even a couple up close, however the nearest I came to being 'nuts' was getting paranoid about little Grey Aliens creeping round my bed ;D
I quit my herbal ;) medicine for a few days, slapped my self round the face, and told my self to grow up.
I rest safe in the knowledge aliens are not interested in little old me.
Are you implying I was high? I'm one of those rare people who have never tried any illicit drugs. My biggest sin is being bipolar.
What happened to me was real, not drug-induced.
Quote from: VillageIdiot on April 02, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
Are you implying I was high? I'm one of those rare people who have never tried any illicit drugs. My biggest sin is being bipolar.
The implication is that the poster might have been high not you. No need to be paranoid. :)
QuoteWhat happened to me was real, not drug-induced.
What was real? "The eye"?
You just made me giggle Pimander ;D
In regards to Carol Rosin, I couldn't have put it any better than Zorgon. The pieces are falling into place for a global false flag, just as terrorism is a global false flag...and it has started raining meteors lately....
However, real visitors are here also, and so its hard to seperate fact from fiction.
When disclosure *does* happen (I believe it to of happened already ::) ), under what pretense will our visitors be presented?
Anyone watch 'V'? aha.
Are you saying the meteors are fake?
I suggest a different explanation but since I continually make a fool of myself I'll keep my yap shut this time.
WvB clearly had foreknowledge of some kind. One does have to wonder how he came by it.
Quote from: VillageIdiot on April 03, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
WvB clearly had foreknowledge of some kind. One does have to wonder how he came by it.
Or Rosin did? Or did she? Did Rosin predict anything? It would seem so, in which case perhaps von Braun did tell her that after all?
Disclosure conference May 9th, 2001. Twin towers attack September 11th, 2001.
It all seems a bit like a baby and bathwater scenario as usual to me. If one person said something that wasn't true at the disclosure conference does that mean it is all untrue? Obviously not. Each testimony should be treated on its own merits, otherwise you'll throw out the old proverbial baby AS USUAL!
ETA: There is sure to be BS thrown into the disclosure material. The interesting thing whether the real bits are anything to do with aliens or just the bones to hand hang meat/BS from. ;)