Is Carol Rosin Credible?

[thorfourwinds]

Or? On the set of 'Close Encounters'

Greetings, Grandpa Sarge:

Julia Phillips was a good friend of ours and there were 'more than a few' "Close Encounters" on the set - or so she said.

Julia told us on several occasions about some really strange things associated with the making of the movie.

But, that's another story.

Just remember the movie and its impression made on you - or not.

We wonder if this set of visuals will trigger any latent embeds?

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Yes it brings back many memories. I first saw it at the Ft. Amador Panama movie theater while I was stationed in Panama.

[VillageIdiot]

I watch it religiously once a month or so hoping for some pathetic clue. Then I got to thinking about a couple of things.

Devil's Tower reminds me of the incomplete pyramid and the ship becomes the eye. Why did they pick DT and not some other place? Was it that it had to be somewhat unique?

Why did they pick a French film director to play the part he played? Why French?

What is the deal with the five tones? What don't I get, again?

Lastly, why can't this sh*t happen to me? Too dumb. ET never lands and asks for the Village Idiot!

[zorgon]

Why French?

...because the Frenchman in Close encounters was supposed to be Jacque Valee MJ12 (07) and 'Partridge' in the Aviary

...project SERPO, now completely messed up with disinfo was the real incident that the movie portrays, but thanks to Bill Ryan of Camelot no one will ever take anything to do with SERPO seriously

[thorfourwinds]

I watch it religiously once a month or so hoping for some pathetic clue. Then I got to thinking about a couple of things.

Devil's Tower reminds me of the incomplete pyramid and the ship becomes the eye. Why did they pick DT and not some other place? Was it that it had to be somewhat unique?

Why did they pick a French film director to play the part he played? Why French?

What is the deal with the five tones? What don't I get, again?

Lastly, why can't this sh*t happen to me? Too dumb. ET never lands and asks for the Village Idiot!

Greetings, esteemed Member VillageIdiot:

GOLD

Great questions and welcome to PRC.

Peace Love Light
tfw      Liberty & Equality or Revolution

[zorgon]

What is the deal with the five tones? What don't I get, again?

The five tones are scales... and the correspond to Curwen hand signs developed by John Curwen in the late 1800's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Curwen





The hand signs were also used in the movie



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[VillageIdiot]

Wow, thanks! I have no idea what that means. The GOLD, I mean  

Again I need to learn who this Vallee guy is. I know this is basic stuff. Where do you guys dig up this information? I'm reading the wrong stuff. Its obviously not in the local library. (No, I haven't been reading crap.)

I'm off to read about Jacques. Will he Google or can you provide a source?

This place IS gold.

»»» I see "Z" posted while I've been writing. I can't see the vids and some of the pics that are posted on this site. Anything that is Flash doesn't work on my phone, which is how I access the net. (Hello NSA)

[VillageIdiot]

zorgon, "te" looks very familiar to me from classical paintings? Is there a connection? Is it a coincidence that it's ET backwards?

[VillageIdiot]

I like this guy. He theorized about something I happen to have some info about. I agree that these things are interdimensional and that they exist right next to us.

I don't like Wiki, but that's where I went first. He witnessed the destruction of tapes it says. Is that in reference to what everyone calls the "Black Knight" satellite? That's something else that fascinates. Never did find an explanation for that. Oberg jumped my sh*t about it once.

Vallee's mentor was Hynek! Awesome.

[zorgon]

Wow, thanks! I have no idea what that means. The GOLD, I mean  

old Saying "A fool and his gold are soon parted"

Again I need to learn who this Vallee guy is. I know this is basic stuff. Where do you guys dig up this information? I'm reading the wrong stuff. Its obviously not in the local library. (No, I haven't been reading crap.)

Actually the library was where I first heard about Jacque Vallee He is about as basic as it gets in UFO circles. i think he is still alive actually.. will have to check

Will he Google

yes

[Sinny]

I've got to admit after reading about SERPO on ATS and Avalon, I disregarded it as a farce.

If Zorgon has some faith in the story, I guess I'll have to back and re-think think things..

[Pimander]

I've got to admit after reading about SERPO on ATS and Avalon, I disregarded it as a farce.

If Zorgon has some faith in the story, I guess I'll have to back and re-think think things..

AFOSI (Air Force Office of Special Investigations) were involved with SERPO, so if there is any truth to it, that will be hard to discern.

I suspect that what was depicted in Spielbergs, Close Encounters movie, was based on genuine plans and ideas that were in place in certain circles who had an interest in contact.  Who knows, perhaps it may have been attempted.  Whether it actually happened is impossible to know as we have no concrete evidence either way.

Normally though, AFOSI jump on material like this and try to use it to keep attention away from other programs they do not want on the public or foreign intelligence radar.  It also makes it easier to know who are the movers and shakers in the field if there is a massive fuss about something.  If US intel disinfo gets the attention then foreign intel have a harder time manipulating the situation and other little games are also played.

I know for a fact that during SERPO, Bill Ryan was hanging out at a mojor UFO conference with none other than AFOSI Special Agent Richard Doty.  Doty is famous for his part in disseminating disinformation into the UFO scene - notably the Paul Bennewitz and the Dulce fiasco. Bennewitz ended up becoming delusional and paranoid before spending a month in a mental health unit - but not before he had published masses of nonsense about a multi levelled joint alien human base beneath the Dulce Mesa. 

UFOlogy is yet to recover its credibility in the wake of the affair. AFOSI appear to have  run the operation in order to draw attention from the fact that Bennewitz filmed strange craft and secret high energy beam weapons or radar at Kirtland Air Force Base.  The NSA also got involved after they were informed (likely by AFOSI) that Bennewitz (an electronics genius) had intercepted secret signals from a secret project and wrongly thought they were aliens communicating from the craft.  They even gave him equipment to "decode" the signals which they loaded with trigger words that would reinforce his belief that aliens were living under Dulce and eating human body parts among other things.

All of this kept the real covert programs out of the public eye by driving a lot of real researchers away from what looked like a lunatic field.  It also meant most people forgot that Paul had really filmed stuff (most of the pictures and film were stolen by AFOSI and the NSA I think although copies of some can be obtained).

Poor Paul and poor UFOlogy.  So (sorry AFOSI) what did Paul film and photograph?  I imagine it is old hat now and the need for the secrecy has diminished - and I want to know!

[VillageIdiot]

It's interesting that everyone who comes in contact with ET goes nuts. The same thing happened to me. I was zapped with "The Eye" and I haven't been the same since. I went utterly mad for three years, which is why I'm the "Resident Loon".

These things are real.

Note: "The Eye" - I recoiled and knew immediately that something had been done to me.

ET can disembody and inhabit anyone. In my case, it inhabited a close friend of mine. I view it as a program akin to Mr. Smith in "The Matrix".

You want the ultimate freak-out? Meet ET.

[Sinny]

@ Pimander -

Good point, if there was any truth to the SERPO fiasco, i'd still be pushed trying to find any real info.
Mind you, although I do believe in 'aliens', SERPO just sounds mental aha... Of Course Bill Ryan made a mess of it, but the story was messy enough without people jumping on the band wagon.

Not that we can say anything for certain of course. Every time I think I have this ET situation understood, something will always pop up to make me second guess my original theory.

@Villiage Idiot - Glad to say I've not gone nuts yet! Aha but I'm only a baby, so I may have all that to come! 

I've observed a handful of UFO's, and even a couple up close, however the nearest I came to being 'nuts' was getting paranoid about little Grey Aliens creeping round my bed 

I quit my herbal  medicine for a few days, slapped my self round the face, and told my self to grow up.

I rest safe in the knowledge aliens are not interested in little old me.

[VillageIdiot]

Are you implying I was high? I'm one of those rare people who have never tried any illicit drugs. My biggest sin is being bipolar.

What happened to me was real, not drug-induced.