If this information is correct we are debt free and sovereign individuals no longer beholden to any government doing business as a corporation, meaning every government, because they're all corporate entities--which have been legally foreclosed, changing everything!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/133504271/The-FORECLOSURE-FLYER (http://www.scribd.com/doc/133504271/The-FORECLOSURE-FLYER)
Please review and let me know what YOU think.
Peace and Love,
JD
Well, it is quite 'Amazing' too say least. I have read all available documentation with in both the websites offered and the 'Declaration of Order' which has a pleathora of documentation revising what we think we know about the current state of affairs both here with in the USA and abroad.
The ones that were illustrated as filed documentations Public Policy-UCC 1-103, OPPT UCC filings Refer: WA DC UCC Ref. Doc. #2012113593 and UCC-1-308, NUNC PRO TUNC, PRAETERA PRETEREA Got my attention rather quickly for what it describes as nothing short of a known and blatant act committed by Governments too not only lie and deceive the common public of monetary and socially needed funds, it also included with in the:
http://www.peoplestrist.org/ under "Press releases" subfolder "Disclosure announcements" that apparently the constitution of the United States of America has been jeopardized for hundreds of years, at least from 1791 under governing laws that prohibit and subject such acts as a form of "Treason" and out right "Contradiction" of the regulations set in place. Which most of us here can agree on pretty adamantly we have crooks with in our local and federal governments and they should be not viewed with prejudicial eyes, where as we, the people, must be constituted for and with in such charges, associations and acts with nothing short of a Justice department hell bent on protecting their own.
With in the "Declaration of Order":
QuoteIn line with most skilled magicians known and unknown, the existence of another sort of 'Magician' began to emerge. A sort with the unrivaled charisma, acting skills and backing of the most decorated talent. A sort with Fanatically deep-rooted and cultured focus and commitment that was perceived by them as un-rootable, undiscoverable. This sort , deceptively tantalized the people with the distraction of 'Constitution and Democracy' created by the slight of knowingly arrogant hand on one side, while the other hand covertly 'Registered the truth in Commerce' by the slight of the pen, with the other.
Swearing absolutely solidarity their own kind, this sort agreed to secrecy...never too reveal the truth, for fear and absolute knowing this sort's world, nay their very existence, would end if the truth were ever known to their 'Audience' 'Their Capital', the people. At the very best, if the truth be known, the people would no longer believe and pay tribute again, leaving this sort of magician to disintegrate in the sole vampiric company of their own kind. At the very worst...well, this sort never get this far. Their ego was so great they could not fathom someone outside of their inducted kind competent enough to discover the truth, let a lone someone being of capacity, willing and intent to effectively use and enforce it....
In order to insure this sort's Agenda, they routinely and tirelessly trained their apprentices to practice this sort's 'Magic'. At any and all costs, the Agenda was deviously preserved , protected ans for the most part, quietly and covertly implemented by 'Registration in Commerce'. When doubt crept in amongst their own kind, this sort would resort to the darkest methods imaginable and unimaginable too keep their kind 'in line', focused and committed. This sort did arm their unwitting and witting apprentices a like withthe motto "Intelligence rules the World, and Ignorance bears the burden!" and they reinforced the allusion of guaranty of the truth of this motto by using the same tricks of shock and Awe, deception, fear, coercion and force that they used to keep the people "On the edge of their seats", nevertheless, "In their Seats" ... like good "Capital" should be. However, Ego was to be this sort's fatal flaw...resulting in their lack of contingency plan for the scenario of their failure to succeed by 'Registration of Agenda".
Peoples Trust 1776- Press release-Disclosure Announcement.
Though I do find these documents of rather important of what lay with in them, I can not use my PC to research any farther Anynonmouses for complete disclosure of how valid the Peoples Trust truly is. PC really, really sucks right now!! >:(
I would go farther into this and searchthe signers out of the document and they were :
Calib Paul Skinner
Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf
Hollis Randall Hillner
Too get to the absolute bottom of what this "Declaration of Order" really stands for.
Thanks for sharing JD, was worth the read for sure, makes one almost over the top angry with our current governmental affiliates and the secrets that they seemingly allow to lay with in using deception and deceit, where as anyone of us civvies would be imprisoned and scorned for such acts.
Hope this was the kind of input you were desiring for input. Quite interesting for sure. ;)
P.s. Please keep in mind I had to hand type from dictated information of the documetns we are discussing, the URL links may not work when clicked and if there are or is some varying of the text with in this quote, it is due to my inability with limited Computer abilities and functions to share as in-depthly as I can possibly for us to coverse over. "Thanks a head of time for your understanding."
1WW
So, with this said. How does one enact this. Does this or can this hold up in court. It seems like its a done deal but you know that Im thinking if this is true that there is a specific lockdown of information by those who still wish to keep this quiet and they'll keep on going on acting like nothing ever happened because as long as the people know, no will know so they can keep on doing it as business as usual, kinda like how the FED RESERVE, came into existence. It's been goin on for such a long time people still don't realize the illegal nature it came into being and the illegal nature of just having a Federal Reserve.
Edward
'Federal' Reserve and the IRS are both private entities
This explains it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
But who is going to DO anything?+
As far as I am aware, the OPPT is awaiting a judge to make this final... Not clear on that. But the fact that the suit went uncontested suggests that the ONLY option the judge has is to grant the case a done deal.
So... What We need to know is that We are FREE - and that includes ANYONE who took oath with the illegal, corporate system, freeing all of said oaths, and thus allowing "secret" information to flow without hindrance and without breaking oaths.
In practical terms, however, the threats of death will likely keep Those who no longer have an OATH quiet...
So. What do FREE Humans do now? I recommend the release of free energy and governing Ourselves stigmergically via the web... [grin]
Personally I will no longer treat the government...ANY government...as an entity having authority over me. I can be jailed, I can be shot, but these are mere acts of aggression only, not "sanctioned" acts of aggression, since no authority exists.
I will put NO energy of any sort into perpetuating the control mind paradigm, and in every conceivable way I will undermine the former governments who attempt to interfere with me in any way up to and including protecting myself from arrest or injury with deadly force, as they have done.
I will not tolerate any further buffoonery coming out of Washington DC or any other seat of government, because I'll be governing myself as a sovereign individual. That's how it is, and that's that.
Thank you to all who have reviewed and commented on this material. It changes everything.
How will YOU proceed?
Peace and Love,
JD
You could start using Cash :D
One thing I noticed being in Taiwan is how everyone use's Hard Cash.
I'm sure that's NOT exclusive to my holiday destination. To get around money laundering of both variety's the Gov in TW use a receipt system of being able to win bucks with a special number printed on the recipient. Every month the Gov post's the winning receipt numbers and one has the chance to win close to 100k USD.
The odd's really do suck when you do the math, but at least you have a chance to win some bucks.
In TW the farmers are allowed to sell their produce to the buyer without being taxed. Although farms in TW are small and the price is cheap (ish) I can see how if that system was adopted for small growers in other country's we would definetley be seeing better produce as the red tape has been reduced.
Over governance sucks. In Australia I am sure all the stainless steel food stalls in TW may fail the H and S standard's for no good reason at all.
Basically the whole planet is over-governed and financed to make the whole experience shit :D
Interesting!
I heard of a small town in Wales that started doing the same thing, and using barter which means that no money changes hands so there's nothing to tax.
Let's hope more countries start doing this ;)
Funny about the stainless steel, it's the most hygeinic material you could ever use for food, because it's, well, stainless ::)
In Europe all factories have to have everything made from s.s. (which makes my job that much harder when i have to drill & weld the stuff)....
This illustrates it nicely, I seen this a while ago. Very informative.
Edward
Quote from: zorgon on April 14, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
'Federal' Reserve and the IRS are both private entities
This explains it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
But who is going to DO anything?+
Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 14, 2013, 08:20:29 PM
Personally I will no longer treat the government...ANY government...as an entity having authority over me. I can be jailed, I can be shot, but these are mere acts of aggression only, not "sanctioned" acts of aggression, since no authority exists.
I will put NO energy of any sort into perpetuating the control mind paradigm, and in every conceivable way I will undermine the former governments who attempt to interfere with me in any way up to and including protecting myself from arrest or injury with deadly force, as they have done.
I will not tolerate any further buffoonery coming out of Washington DC or any other seat of government, because I'll be governing myself as a sovereign individual. That's how it is, and that's that.
Thank you to all who have reviewed and commented on this material. It changes everything.
How will YOU proceed?
Peace and Love,
JD
Once this goes through we as people have the opportunity to have a cascading effect, socially, spiritually, technology the whole ball of wax. It is literally the removal of secrecy and the manipulation that has been going on for some time. A time of greatness is here for everyone, let's all do our part in helping ourselves and each other in making things like how we all know it should be. A free, open, honest and respectful society where the potential is unlimited and the wonder and amazement of life is Realized and attained.
Edward
Here is the original website where this is all stemming from.
http://www.peoplestrust1776.org/
Edward
Edward gets gold.
Line 2.
Peace and Love,
JD
Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 14, 2013, 03:22:51 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/133504271/The-FORECLOSURE-FLYER (http://www.scribd.com/doc/133504271/The-FORECLOSURE-FLYER)
Please review and let me know what YOU think.
The One People's Public Trust is run by an ex-lawyer out of Washington
state, he writes up a lot of gibberish, and sends it to the Supreme Court.
OPPT claim they have billions in gold for everyone, and now claim they
are in contact with Aliens and will lead the way to Utopia.
In other words, it is rubbish.
BurnTheShips
Can you offer links to support the claim that the organization is a hoax or incorrect?
I'll appreciate MORE than opinion here...thanks in advance--
Peace and Love,
JD
For starters, please engage all logical thought before you read
what I will post in the following pages.
What evidence is there that OPPT is not a scam?
If it is based on a lie to begin with, a scam does not require that
they be asking for money.
The act of trying convince some one of something that is a pure
fabrication as if it were true is a scam.
For instance, look at NESARA. The lady who was running that
scam did not make people pay for the info she was dishing out,
but she gained such a loyal following that people would give her
money. So this is a lot like a snake oil salesman, or a tv evangelist.
All this OPPT has done has written up a buch of pseudo legalese
documents that have zero legal standing, that should be more than
enough for most people who have a standard knowledge of money,
the banking system, and scams.
As a basic fact of the OPPT, the numbers do not add up.
Thats for starters .....
Moving on to the symbol they use as a "logo".
In the logo, they use a golden element as a stylized sun,
rising over a dark ground.
Familiar as "the Dawn of a New Day," a common theme among engineered "people's revolutions." Next, they use Saturnian rings
around the stylized sun, so the sunrise actually depicts the rise of the "second sun."
Google the following terms and scan through some of the results
"Second sun Saturn"
"Saturn and Satan"
"The Saturnian Society"
There is a ring around the top ray of the sun
looks like a crown. Put it all together, the symbol depicts
the dawn of a new day in which Saturn (Satan) rises and is crowned.
Ok, take a look at the numbers....
http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/01/when-oppt-shoe-dropped-evidence-that.html
There, someone has gone to great lengths to fake some documents.
Really think Timmy Geitner signed those?
I have a planet to sell to you, for 7 trillion, its all yours.
Look at a few things on the documents...
Change of date,
Reference numbers (partials of numbers)
and then this phrase on each:
c). "50% shall be forcibly used for whatsoever Development Program and 50% shall be automatically and forcibly maintained and preserved for another 30 years until lasted for eternity",
Look at the signatures on each one of the documents,
they bear no resemblence to the actual signatories.
Further, no banking documents would allow typed names
over or under an actual signature.
Look at the "leaders" ...
Heather Tucci -
Supposedly finds an internationally corrupt banking system,
serves "notice" on the UN, Rothschilds, Bush, Clinton, etc. and then
claims to serve official documents to them.
Well we covered the documents....
Does anyone really think that the Rothschilds offered her a
a banking job, as a manager no less?
::)
Of course, she did not take the job, and instead "served" legalease
papers to all the bankers and banks....she was going to shut them
down in July of 2012....so then why are we still here, and the World
Bank is not delivering our money?
Funny thing, also Heather has now given up her law license,
voluntarily....
Proof -
http://www.mywsba.org/default.aspx?tabid=178&RedirectTabId=177&Usr_ID=30281
Quote from: burntheships on April 14, 2013, 11:24:12 PM
For starters, please engage all logical thought before you read
what I will post in the following pages.
What evidence is there that OPPT is not a scam?
If it is based on a lie to begin with, a scam does not require that
they be asking for money.
The act of trying convince some one of something that is a pure
fabrication as if it were true is a scam.
For instance, look at NESARA. The lady who was running that
scam did not make people pay for the info she was dishing out,
but she gained such a loyal following that people would give her
money. So this is a lot like a snake oil salesman, or a tv evangelist.
All this OPPT has done has written up a buch of pseudo legalese
documents that have zero legal standing, that should be more than
enough for most people who have a standard knowledge of money,
the banking system, and scams.
As a basic fact of the OPPT, the numbers do not add up.
Thats for starters .....
Not one shred of what you say is backed up by ANYTHING. I asked you for links, not your opinion. PROVE it is false, if you can, or else just say you don't know. A shill says stuff like that without backing it up. I'll admit the thing is wrong if you can OFFER SUPPORTING DATA for your claim. How hard is THAT!?
Peace and Love
JD
Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 15, 2013, 12:09:24 AM
Not one shred of what you say is backed up by ANYTHING. I asked you for links, not your opinion. PROVE it is false, if you can, or else just say you don't know. A shill says stuff like that without backing it up. I'll admit the thing is wrong if you can OFFER SUPPORTING DATA for your claim. How hard is THAT!?
Peace and Love
JD
Are you calling me a shill?
I gave you lots of links, which you certainly did not even have time
to look at. Pfftttt
Absolutely not; I'm saying that kind of contrary opinion-slinging is reminiscent of shills. Why are you so unwilling to support your position? On the face of it it seems EASY ENOUGH...on with it. A link saying she's not a lawyer doesn't count. You don't need to be a lawyer!
Peace and Love,
JD
Why have you refused to look at the links I provided?
Are you being intentionally dense?
Perhaps you just like to post unsupported gobblygook?
First you ask for opinions, then when offered, you
"demand" proof. :o
This is not the typical forum where you can post unsupported
stuff, and then "demand" that everyone who has taken
the time to find it false then must "debunk" it.
It is up to each person to do research. If you dont want to
do it yourself, dont ask others to do it for you.
On with it indeed, when you get your 5 million,
let us know.... ;D
Calm down people, each person has their own way of sorting life, mine is staying cool and looking deeply at Bitcoins. ;)
Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 15, 2013, 12:09:24 AM
Not one shred of what you say is backed up by ANYTHING. I asked you for links, not your opinion. PROVE it is false, if you can, or else just say you don't know. A shill says stuff like that without backing it up. I'll admit the thing is wrong if you can OFFER SUPPORTING DATA for your claim. How hard is THAT!?
Why do you think the information that OPPT provides is true?
Quote from: burntheships on April 15, 2013, 12:19:21 AM
Why have you refused to look at the links I provided?
Are you being intentionally dense?
I have seen your links. All you provided was something that other opinionated people have commented on, but no forensic proof...as was carried out on the Obama "Birth Certificate." If the document turns out to be fake, does THAT mean OPPT is wrong, or that there is no merit? No. These are legal proceedings, so...there's a paper trail. You seem interested in the legal end of things relative to this issue, so--where does THAT rabbit hole lead? I'm unable to do much as a layman; can you CHECK INTO IT?
QuotePerhaps you just like to post unsupported gobblygook?
I hasten to add (again) that YOU have NOT supported your statement saying this isn't true. If it isn't, it should be an easy matter to debunk, right? So again...ON WITH IT.
QuoteOn with it indeed.
Peace and Love,
JD
Quote from: ArMaP on April 15, 2013, 12:47:56 AM
Why do you think the information that OPPT provides is true?
I didn't begin by assuming anything. Reread, and you'll see that the entire POINT of this thread is to ASK FOR DEBUNKING PROOF, which...must not exist?
Peace and Love,
JD
I have personally already foreclosed on the government, as I state in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBv_cyoOVeo
I make no legal claims; this is only MY idea of how to proceed, since we have NO LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT.
Peace and Love,
JD
Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 15, 2013, 12:51:13 AM
I didn't begin by assuming anything. Reread, and you'll see that the entire POINT of this thread is to ASK FOR DEBUNKING PROOF, which...must not exist?
Sorry, I thought that, as you are asking for proof that this isn't true, you already had proof that this is true, so you could compare them.
Quote from: ArMaP on April 15, 2013, 01:07:43 AM
Sorry, I thought that, as you are asking for proof that this isn't true, you already had proof that this is true, so you could compare them.
ArMap I guess I just brought it to the forum because I know there are bright minds here who can help sift through this and shed light on its validity--or lack thereof. Nothing more, but I was hoping to get concrete supportive data, so that I can KNOW. I don't in any way consider the link I provides as "proof" either way.
Peace and Love,
JD
OK, I guess it was just another bad interpretation from my part. :)
Someone should call David Wynn Miller......he will tell you the straight poop. The people's trust isnt getting anywhere, and they are under duress from every angle. Stuff like this is for those who have no possessions, and no property, and therefore have nothing to lose physically by declaring themselves sovereign. Anyone out there want to put their home and possessions up against the most evil entity to have ever existed, the US Government? As of now..not me.
Truth is..if someone rejects all authority in the form of government, then they will unfortunately be dealt with appropriately by said government.
So what will "I" do?
Watch the snake, and make sure I dont take my eyes off of his head....
Good points LE,
My only caveat would be that the U.S. Government is not
the most evil...there are plenty of other nations out there
whoreing in with the shadow government, and the banking
cabals.
And, we must remember that abundance is up to us,
it will not be handed to us, or sent via usps in a brown
envelope from scam artists.
We are only free if we are free indeed, in our own minds.
If we imagine we need permission from a UCC filing to
be free, where does that leave one without it?
True freedom comes from being at peace with ones choices
in life, and ones own beliefs.
Make of life what you want it to be, you do not need a
UCC to be a "sovereign" person, in the real true sense
life, body mind and soul.
The government can not provide a utopia, life
is what each one of us makes of it.
When I had put my first post up on this, I had too take it with a grain of salt. My personal researching is limited with PC issues, but wasn't convinced it was what we would call "The Real Deal" with how the document was worded and then tended to go off on a tangent of accountability tied in with 'Governmental Conspiracy' and kind of went from there.
I had inquired about these so called signers of this document as well, I have never heard of them and wasn't sure of their credibility from square one.
Would be nice to think we had such a strong hold on our current governmental affairs and Representatives, but it is a far cry for this actually happening.
Thanks LE and BTS for the links information, can't be 100% positive, but we know these scams are out there doing more harm than good. Was a very interesting read as I progressed, but was confusing when it came to the legalized wording and bashing, that didn't fit the bill for me too be authentic in any way shape or form.
Maybe you can provide direct links BTS, know your in the know of such associations and can read them from a mile away... ;)
1WW
Quote from: burntheships on April 15, 2013, 02:47:41 AM
Good points LE,
My only caveat would be that the U.S. Government is not
the most evil...there are plenty of other nations out there
whoreing in with the shadow government, and the banking
cabals.
QuoteTrue BTS, I forgot about the religions and the various horrifying dictators which have existed through the millenia in my statement..gotta give credit where due! ;)
And, we must remember that abundance is up to us,
it will not be handed to us, or sent via usps in a brown
envelope from scam artists.
QuoteTrue as well, scams like these just get people into a more vulnerable state for the elitists to rip their flesh off and eat their bones..must keep shields up to avoid such ridiculous efforts
We are only free if we are free indeed, in our own minds.
If we imagine we need permission from a UCC filing to
be free, where does that leave one without it?
True freedom comes from being at peace with ones choices
in life, and ones own beliefs.
Make of life what you want it to be, you do not need a
UCC to be a "sovereign" person, in the real true sense
life, body mind and soul.
The government can not provide a utopia, life
is what each one of us makes of it.
QuotePrecisely, only we can provide that Utopian life...the government is the wall which we must hurdle to get to it...they cant ever take away what we are instilled with as a species..they can only try to prolong the suffering of the human race for their own vile needs as long as they can.
Cheers!
Le
I get a kick out of the evolution of the conversation. I post info asking for debunking info, and instead of providing that, now Le and BTS just use rhetoric like "scams like this" without establishing (other than opinion) any facts contrary to the assertions made by OPPT, except to say someone isn't a lawyer, etcetera. Frankly I was hoping for more data--hard facts, or specifics as to WHY this isn't true.
I agree that the net effect is that nothing has changed in the way the federal government operates...as if this isn't happening (much like the ufo phenomena) , but perhaps this is something to investigate further. I have found nothing debunking this yet, just fringe statemewnts about one document having signature issues and conjecture.
Peace and Love,
JD
from readin some of your stuff it seems to me that you are conducting snipe hunts here
merely an observation not a participation
definition for any who never heard of it:
A snipe hunt is a type of practical joke that involves experienced people making fun of credulous newcomers by giving them an impossible or imaginary task. The snipe hunt may be assigned to a target as part of a process of hazing.
I agree Sky.
...and also I feel that rhetoric is only that if it hasnt been shown to be correct numerous times over again.
After reading your posts and replies JD, Im certain I could "snipe" at YOU for being a bit self important and holier than thou to many who read here, but as for me I am not that type of person..I prefer truth over drama, so you wont get a rehash of a bad broadway play out of me sir.
This OPPT "movement" has been underway for quite some time, with zero results except to make the PTB aware that there are those who are on that fringe you speak of JD. I have been personally invited by certain people who are at the top of this and have declined kindly to their asking me to join.
Joining such a "movement"???
Kinda like sticking one's cranium into the air from the safety of a pillbox if you ask me.
To lessen the control the government has upon us, we need to assemble en masse, not piddly diddle and rant upon the web..action speaks louder than words, so good for you JD, youre making a move to get their attention thats for sure.
I just hope you dont have a great deal to lose by exposing yourself as someone who want to stir their already poison filled pot. Good luck with that....
As for credible linkage to ideas and theories describing the futility of such a "movement", I placed the name David Wynn Miller upon my post, to give those with time to fear and worry a place to go to get the real scoop on who controls our lives from every aspect...I just dont have time to worry and fear myself, as it isnt going to change a thing.
Other than that Id surmise, Sky and I will be gardening today in our respective fear free zones where we can be with the one who really loves all of humanity...nature.
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on April 15, 2013, 04:05:31 AM
Maybe you can provide direct links BTS, know your in the know of such associations and can read them from a mile away... ;)
1WW,
A very good place to start, if one is looking for documents is the very site
of the OPPT to start with....from there is a list of the three people,
Heather and two men, and they have up there also the documents
they purport to be the "basis" of the "trust".
I am going to just say here that I will go through my hisotry if I have
time, and if I retrieve other supporting links i will post them,
however, much of what I know comes from my education, which I
can not go into here, my backgound and knowledge of financial
instuments, and banking.
Believe me when I tell you countless thousands of gullible
individuals have lost untold sums of money to scammers,
some scams are not as beleivable as this one is,
yet they succeed in getting other peoples money.
A good rule here : if it sounds too good to be true, it is a scam.
They key here with this scam, as with all "good" scams,
they lure you with the promise of a large sum of money
to be had, if you will just do the simple things they tell you.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like one too,
its likely a duck.
And, I only say this because I care, I have nothing to gain,
I am just trying to save someone from shelling out time
and money, for something that ultimately will hurt them in
the end.
Quote from: Anynonmouses on April 15, 2013, 02:23:03 PM
I get a kick out of the evolution of the conversation.
That happens alot here, just look at the hundreds of threads
where the topic starts at a point, and "evolves". This is only
logical.
QuoteI post info asking for debunking info, and instead of providing that, now Le and BTS just use rhetoric like "scams like this"
Well, sir you have admitted that you can not prove the OPPT to be
true, so with that in mind, if someone counters that it is a scam,
that is only logical.
Quote
any facts contrary to the assertions made by OPPT, except to say someone isn't a lawyer, etcetera.
Is that not a red flag to you, that Heather has no license to practice
law? Would you entrust your hard earned fiat money to be managed
by an Investment Firm, or a stock broker if they had no license?
QuoteFrankly I was hoping for more data--hard facts, or specifics
as to WHY this isn't true.
......I have found nothing debunking this yet, just fringe statemewnts about
one document having signature issues and conjecture.
fringe statements? Sir, the only thing "fringe" is the OPPT.
Rememeber, all currency is fiat, unless it is backed by gold or silver or
precious metals, and I am going to go further, and say that even if it is
currency backed by paper certificate it is fiat....
That is the biggest clue, the OPPT purports they are going after
the huge sums of fiat currency that the banks hold. Look at Cyprus,
and see what happens to fiat currency.
And, some say that OPPT is going to get to the gold
held by the Federal Reserve, or The World Bank.
This is beyond fringe, for goodness sakes, Germany wants
its gold back, and it is going to take years for it to be recovered
from The Federal Reserve. Why? Because it is not there!
The key is, they have no legal standing to "take" fiat
currency that is not in an account that has thier name
on it, that is simple banking law.
So, one would have to examine the logic here, in that
the OPPT has no legal standing to "take back"
untold sums of fiat currency from the Reserve banks,
and even if they did....they are not going to get it.
So far these are some very good point's not to trust what this group is trying too convey and postulate with in unrealistic promises and capitalizing with the leagal jargon as if it were written in stone.
When Anynonmouses had posted this thread, I read all of the information with in that provided further information dealing with this 'Declaration' and I couldn't not help wanting this too be true, err go the baited luring of the concepts of a group that has intentions of broken promises and rather shallow respect for fellow civvies.
However, I do believe Anynonmouses has in his heart for the bettering of mankind, which is a commendable and rather Humbling considering that TPTB have had these types of shenanigans in place for centuries and really 'Hoping' for the day when all these character defects with in the governmental operations, both the US and abroad, will finally be recognized for what they truly are, and dealt with as though it was a guy named 'Bernie Madoff' and pay the price. The reason I used good ole Bernie as example is because o f the similarities yet different chain of events and eventual incarceration, which there are so many of these 'Types' with in the governmental institutions that should get the same as Bernie did. Not a whole heck of a lot of difference, from what I can tell from the beginning to the end of the explanations provided by MSM and court ruling's with accurate and instilled laws and regulations. IMHO
Up until this therad was created, I wasn't sure if I had ever heard of them before, I even went through some of Amaterasu petition areas too see if I could locate any more affiliation information, but my PC is really in bad shape as of right now, and retyping all the information I have to share is rather mundane and tedious. (Man, do I miss Cut & Paste Option!!! :'( ) So doing research is compounded for me , it is like 10X's the work for something that usually would take me an hour to at least get closer to the truth of the matters at hand. Not too mention how it has effected my participation with IG and anything else I have to converse over and about.
"Sorry for the inactivity of my research for this topic Anynonmouses, if I could get deeper I would." ;)
Either way, it is a true eye opener for us to remain vigilant and postured for anything that anyone can throw our way as far as deception and blatant robbery/scams of these type s of groups. But even as I type this response, I can't help but think of how the 'Declaration' was composed and the wording there with in it. It was a bit 'Cheesy' for lack of a better word.
Wish there could be more honesty and heart felt trust in the world, but, I don't see thing's being reversed when it comes too the whole trust issues, especially with in Gov. and local Gov. spending and out right exploitation of such things as financial welfare of it's voters or backers. Sad really. :(
1WW
Thank you for all the comments, especially yours 1WW. I'm not trying to be gullible here; I'm NOT proceeding in any way as if it's true, and I'm certainly not putting my money (not that I have any) into this, just a bit of research...and there isn't much to go on.
Until I learn differently I have zero problem with being leery of OPPT's material...I just don't KNOW enough to outright say it's a scam (yet).
As far as changing things by grouping lots of people together with signs and porta potties, I advise against it. Nowadays gathering in groups means the potential exists for a physical slaughter, and the government is preparing for such gatherings of concerned, fed-up citizens. Signs don't change much anyway, but actions do.
I'm aware that I'm probably on some government watch list because of some direct things I've said to the leadership members of government, mostly via Twitter. I make NO apologies for my statements; they were true, and I have nothing to lose...correct. I truly don't give a rat's backside what the potus thinks of me--I have my opinion of them as well, and we're not exactly on friendly terms.
On my LyricsByJD account I had the president, Hillary, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and dozens of other candidates, senators and representatives etcetera following what I Tweet, because I poke sharp stick at the powerful all the time, and will as long as I breathe because of their heinous activities around the planet.
Be that as it is, still...in regards to this thread, I humbly thank you all for the tough love.
Peace and Love,
JD