Has This Been Debunked Or Confirmed?

[burntheships]

Moving on to the symbol they use as a "logo".

In the logo, they use a golden element as a stylized sun,
rising over a dark ground.

Familiar as "the Dawn of a New Day," a common theme among engineered "people's revolutions."  Next, they use Saturnian rings
around the stylized sun, so the sunrise actually depicts the rise of the "second sun."

Google the following terms and scan through some of the results

"Second sun Saturn"

"Saturn and Satan"

"The Saturnian Society"

There is a ring around the top ray of the sun
looks like a crown. Put it all together, the symbol depicts
the dawn of a new day in which Saturn (Satan) rises and is crowned.

[burntheships]

Ok, take a look at the numbers....

http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/01/when-oppt-shoe-dropped-evidence-that.html

There, someone has gone to great lengths to fake some documents.
Really think Timmy Geitner signed those?

I have a planet to sell to you, for 7 trillion, its all yours.

Look at a few things on the documents...

Change of date,

Reference numbers (partials of numbers)

and then this phrase on each:


c). "50% shall be forcibly used for whatsoever Development Program and 50% shall be automatically and forcibly maintained and preserved for another 30 years until lasted for eternity",

Look at the signatures on each one of the documents,
they bear no resemblence to the actual signatories.

Further, no banking documents would allow typed names
over or under an actual signature.

[burntheships]

Look at the "leaders" ...

Heather Tucci -

Supposedly finds an internationally corrupt banking system,
serves "notice" on the UN, Rothschilds, Bush, Clinton, etc. and then
claims to serve official documents to them.

Well we covered the documents....

Does anyone really think that the Rothschilds offered her a
a banking job, as a manager no less?



Of course, she did not take the job, and instead "served" legalease
papers to all the bankers and banks....she was going to shut them
down  in July of 2012....so then why are we still here, and the World
Bank is not delivering our money?

Funny thing, also Heather has now given up her law license,
voluntarily....

Proof -

http://www.mywsba.org/default.aspx?tabid=178&RedirectTabId=177&Usr_ID=30281

[Anynonmouses]

For starters, please engage all logical thought before you read
what I will post in the following pages.

What evidence is there that OPPT is not a scam?

If it is based on a lie to begin with, a scam does not require that
they be asking for money.

The act of trying convince some one of something that is a pure
fabrication as if it were true is a scam.

For instance, look at NESARA. The lady who was running that
scam did not make people pay for the info she was dishing out,
but she gained such a loyal following that people would give her
money. So this is a lot like a snake oil salesman, or a tv evangelist.

All this OPPT has done has written up a buch of pseudo legalese
documents that have zero legal standing, that should be more than
enough for most people who have a standard knowledge of money,
the banking system, and scams.

As a basic fact of the OPPT, the numbers do not add up.

Thats for starters .....

Not one shred of what you say is backed up by ANYTHING. I asked you for links, not your opinion. PROVE it is false, if you can, or else just say you don't know. A shill says stuff like that without backing it up. I'll admit the thing is wrong if you can OFFER SUPPORTING DATA for your claim. How hard is THAT!?

Peace and Love
JD

[burntheships]

Not one shred of what you say is backed up by ANYTHING. I asked you for links, not your opinion. PROVE it is false, if you can, or else just say you don't know. A shill says stuff like that without backing it up. I'll admit the thing is wrong if you can OFFER SUPPORTING DATA for your claim. How hard is THAT!?

Peace and Love
JD

Are you calling me a shill?

I gave you lots of links, which you certainly did not even have time
to look at. Pfftttt

[Anynonmouses]

Absolutely not; I'm saying that kind of contrary opinion-slinging is reminiscent of shills. Why are you so unwilling to support your position? On the face of it it seems EASY ENOUGH...on with it. A link saying she's not a lawyer doesn't count. You don't need to be a lawyer!

Peace and Love,
JD

[burntheships]

Why have you refused to look at the links I provided?
Are you being intentionally dense?

Perhaps you just like to post unsupported gobblygook?

First you ask for opinions, then when offered, you
"demand" proof. 

This is not the typical forum where you can post unsupported
stuff, and then "demand" that everyone who has taken
the time to find it false then must "debunk" it.
It is up to each person to do research. If you dont want to
do it yourself, dont ask others to do it for you.


On with it indeed, when you get your 5 million,
let us know.... 

[Topend2]

Calm down people, each person has their own way of sorting life, mine is staying cool and looking deeply at Bitcoins. 

[ArMaP]

Not one shred of what you say is backed up by ANYTHING. I asked you for links, not your opinion. PROVE it is false, if you can, or else just say you don't know. A shill says stuff like that without backing it up. I'll admit the thing is wrong if you can OFFER SUPPORTING DATA for your claim. How hard is THAT!?

Why do you think the information that OPPT provides is true?

[Anynonmouses]

Why have you refused to look at the links I provided?
Are you being intentionally dense?

I have seen your links. All you provided was something that other opinionated people have commented on, but no forensic proof...as was carried out on the Obama "Birth Certificate." If the document turns out to be fake, does THAT mean OPPT is wrong, or that there is no merit? No. These are legal proceedings, so...there's a paper trail. You seem interested in the legal end of things relative to this issue, so--where does THAT rabbit hole lead? I'm unable to do much as a layman; can you CHECK INTO IT?

Perhaps you just like to post unsupported gobblygook?

I hasten to add (again) that YOU have NOT supported your statement saying this isn't true. If it isn't, it should be an easy matter to debunk, right? So again...ON WITH IT.

On with it indeed.

Peace and Love,
JD

[Anynonmouses]

Why do you think the information that OPPT provides is true?

I didn't begin by assuming anything. Reread, and you'll see that the entire POINT of this thread is to ASK FOR DEBUNKING PROOF, which...must not exist?

Peace and Love,
JD

[Anynonmouses]

I have personally already foreclosed on the government, as I state in this:



I make no legal claims; this is only MY idea of how to proceed, since we have NO LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT.

Peace and Love,
JD

[ArMaP]

I didn't begin by assuming anything. Reread, and you'll see that the entire POINT of this thread is to ASK FOR DEBUNKING PROOF, which...must not exist?

Sorry, I thought that, as you are asking for proof that this isn't true, you already had proof that this is true, so you could compare them.

[Anynonmouses]

Sorry, I thought that, as you are asking for proof that this isn't true, you already had proof that this is true, so you could compare them.

ArMap I guess I just brought it to the forum because I know there are bright minds here who can help sift through this and shed light on its validity--or lack thereof. Nothing more, but I was hoping to get concrete supportive data, so that I can KNOW. I don't in any way consider the link I provides as "proof" either way.

Peace and Love,
JD

[ArMaP]

OK, I guess it was just another bad interpretation from my part.