You have to see this stuff to believe it. egypt and cairo in particular, is, only one year after their first democratic election, already demanding their democratically elected president morsi, step down. they have stormed and ransacked morsi's muslim brotherhood building in cairo and carted off/destroyed most of the equipment.
the protestors are saying that morsi is not representing the people, is favoring the muslim brotherhood in particular, and that the brotherhood's actions are causing people to hate islam.
the streets are packed, all over egypt, with protestors. meanwhile, back on our front, it's eerily quiet as regards this topic. things that make you go hmmmm....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3itUd38oDk
part of the problem is that egypt is rather like the usa-- a mixed bag of many cultural and religious views. forcing hard core islam on egyptians is probably not the best idea in the world.
there's a video on this link that covers the comments above
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/eight-killed-hundreds-injured-as-protesters-clash-in-egypt-1.1347601
can anyone figure out why the US media is being so low key on this subject? anyone?
because Undo11, if the blood bath starts, the U.S. doesn't want to be acknowledged as a very big financial backer and contributor to the Egyptian Military or it's gubment consort's when TSHTF There by claiming 'Plausible Deniability' with in confines of U.N. Consulate possibly seeing the U.S. as the single largest contributor to oust an Egypt of not their liking?
QuoteThis article has been updated to reflect new developments. It was first published on Jan. 31, 2011.
The regime change in Egypt — and in particular, the riots outside the American embassy last month — have prompted renewed questions about American aid to the country. (A recent poll found that 42 percent of Americans supported cutting aid to Egypt; 29 percent supported cutting it off altogether.)
We've taken a step back and tried to answer some basic questions, including how much the U.S. is giving Egypt, what's changed since the Arab Spring and who is benefiting from all this aid money.
F.A.Q. on U.S. Aid to Egypt: Where Does the Money Go—And Who Decides How It's Spent? (http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/f.a.q.-on-u.s.-aid-to-egypt-where-does-the-money-go-who-decides-how-spent)
If you follow the time line of these affiliation's, you can clearly see the interest's the US has had for Egypt to be an ally, it has a darker purpose I believe, and if you look at the African and middle east continent's as a whole, it even becomes more concerning of a transition too favor US occupation with out looking as such.
Another good avenue to research is with in Stratfor Investigative reports, there are so many of these types of scenario's and researches out there, it is a question to the individual trying to decipher it all for what it all truly means. I for one, have my own point of view over this matter, and having relatives that live in that part of the world, and me being in the US, well, let's just say we don't hear a lot of the 'Truth' of what is actually going on over there. Sad when you trust a Blog more than your own Gubment for sure. :'(
1WW
Here is an interesting tidbit on the Muslim Brotherhood that might throw some light onto the situation...
Quote
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD'S INFLUENCE IN EGYPT IS GROWING
July 30, 2011 By Joseph P. Farrell
Yesterday in my News and Views from the Nefarium I spoke about the growing influence of the Muslim Brotherhood in post-Mubarek Egypt, and how it appears that this radical Islamist group is poised to gain significant influence, if not control, over Egypt's parliament:
Egypt\'s Simmering Rage
As I mentioned, the Muslim Brotherhood took its beginning when the banksters in London and New York decided in the 1920s to back the Ikhwan al Muslimeen, the Muslim Brotherhood or, as we also call them, the Wahhabists, who, using a radicalized version of Islam, waged war and installed the House of Saud, who then tossed the Muslim Brotherhood out of the country. From Saudi Arabia, most of this group emigrated to Egypt, joining the Egyptian version created by Hassan Al Banna. During the Second World War, this group, according to researcher John Loftus, "became a fully integrated arm of the German intelligence and propaganda networks during WWII." (John Loftus, America's Nazi Secret, p. 14). Indeed, as I have pointed out in The Nazi International, the ties didn't end when the war did, for this group was the circle in which the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Al Husseini – himself a staunch supporter of the Nazis and who even helped to raise Muslim Waffen SS troops to fight in Russia – moved, as well as his cousin, Yasser Arafat. It was also this group that maintained contact with the SS officers sent to "train" Egyptian intelligence after the overthrow of King Farouk, ostensibly at the behest of the CIA.It was this group of Nazis that translated the notorious Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion into Arabic, a translation used to this day in radical Islamist cells.
Gamel Abdul Nasser threw this group out of Egypt, but they were welcomed back into Saudi Arabia, where they were used as school teachers! Notes Loftus "It was a perfect storm of Nazi racism and Wahhabbi bigotry." (Loftus, op. cit., p. 15. For a review of this history, see pp. 13-15 of Loftus' book). All this took place, of course, in the wake of the establishment of the Zionist state of Israel in 1948.
We could, of course, view the growing influence of the Muslim Brotherhood in post-Mubarek Egypt as being the result of the hidden manipulations of one of the two power-brokering groups lurking in its history, i.e., the banksters of London and New York, and/or the post-war Fascist/Nazi International. But I think this goes much deeper. We are looking, in my opinion, at the setting up of the three great Yahwisms – the three so-called "great monotheisms" that all, to some extent, base their religious patrimony on the character of the God of the Old Testament – to take a fall. We are looking, in other words, at yet another step being put into place for what I call "The Acopalypse Theater." The question is, to what end, and who is really behind it? That, I'm afraid, must await its own time and place, and its own book, to answer.
In the short term, however, this "revolution" that we see going on in the Middle East was not, in my opinion, ever entirely spontaneous. It had too much of the air of coordination about it, and for all their might and money, I don't think the Banksters are entirely happy with what is going on, at least, not in the short term. The empire is unraveling, and there is factional infighting within the corridors of New World Order globalism. The radical Islamists are merely das Kanonenfutter...
http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/07/the-muslim-brotherhoods-influence-in-egypt-is-growing/ (http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/07/the-muslim-brotherhoods-influence-in-egypt-is-growing/)
of the snippets of info i am able to get, it would seem to me egypt has sooo many different religious viewpoints, many of which are centered on ancient egyptian history, that it's a real head scratcher that they even elected a radical muslim for president in the first place.
this is a weird scenario, to be sure. i still can't figure out what is going on.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/international/2013/07/01/lklv-sayah-night-palace.cnn.html
I am stating the obvious here, however this begs the question...
The U.S. intervened last time, and played a heavy
hand. This time we are doing nothing?
Well, here let me put it this way; The U.S. interferred last time,
in a matter that we should not have and now look.
Not to say that this uprising is the result of the last....
Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 01, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
Here is an interesting tidbit on the Muslim Brotherhood that might throw some light onto the situation...
http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/07/the-muslim-brotherhoods-influence-in-egypt-is-growing/ (http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/07/the-muslim-brotherhoods-influence-in-egypt-is-growing/)
Good info there Ellirium.
@Undo, I dont think the egyptians really picked the MB as the lead,
it was a set up IMO. The U.S. helped that with a heavy hand,
none other than B O and his other MB buddies.
Anne Patterson is actually telling the Copts not to protest the MB.
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/u-s-asks-egypts-christians-not-to-oppose-morsi/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbJ1ucSmIcA
This is the very reason why I have come to a conclusion that the "Moving Egyptian Statue" reported last week was a Political Stunt.. and a very good one at that ;D
Suddenly I see Egypt in the Media again this week!
Quote from: Somamech on July 01, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
This is the very reason why I have come to a conclusion that the "Moving Egyptian Statue" reported last week was a Political Stunt.. and a very good one at that ;D
Suddenly I see Egypt in the Media again this week!
Nice connection....Egypt doing a 360...
Actually my viewpoint Andolin!
Is that they knew it was going to hit MSM again and fired a a shot across the bow :D
I made a point in the original thread here about Egypt and The Moving Statue's that revolve's around the fact that things are pretty screwed up there and it's not being reported on MSM, if you are morbid like myself I listen to Talk Radio at work where it was always discussed !
Quick search for One of my Fave Radio Show's here:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/search/?query=Egypt+Late+Night+Live&num_ranks=20
Oops I may read wrong...
Basically my understanding has been that The Uprising has been pissed after the election. The never did stop uprising, it just wasn't reported in the wider media. Hence they knew what was coming up and used the moving statue as a means of gaining attention. I like their work in this case if my assumptions are correct! ;D
And like Undo said roughly, the young Arab's are a mixed bunch and they don't want another nutter ruling them!
Yah.....They said 2 months ago that June 30 was the deadline...It is really heating up now..CNN reports the Egyptian military has said they will take action against the Government if Moesi doesn't step down;
Quote From Huff Post'
"CAIRO -- Egypt's powerful military warned on Monday it will intervene if the Islamist president doesn't "meet the people's demands," giving him and his opponents two days to reach an agreement, as thousands of protesters massed for a second day calling on Mohammed Morsi to step down"
Andy
Nice Find andolin!
erm, seems o is sending US troops over there. i can't get anyone to tell me whether they are going to protect morsi or not. they are trained riot personnel. this is not looking so good for the people of egypt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btrOyEqRAxU
Well I doubt that O will commit troops against the Egypt's legitimate government without UN sanctions...Oh wait...I guess the USA isn't beyond that approach..Snicker....MSM is a little confused, no longer paying so much attention to all things NSA related...Hmmmmm..
Quote from: andolin on July 01, 2013, 08:22:06 PM
Well I doubt that O will commit troops against the Egypt's legitimate government without UN sanctions...Oh wait...I guess the USA isn't beyond that approach..Snicker....MSM is a little confused, no longer paying so much attention to all things NSA related...Hmmmmm..
so you think the troops are going there to protect morsi then. oh dear. there are 20 million and rising, people in the streets protesting. i feel badly for all of them, even our troops. this is not good. if you pray, pray for the people of egypt.
Naw...we go in with the UN to "Protect the people and help stabilize the region"...Then we call for more "Free and democratic elections"....Then if we don't like the new regime we simply "Rinse and repeat".....I see a lot of blue helmets in Egyptian streets...Might be a good time to get a look see under the GP and see why all that area is cordoned off...No ?
What is the Mil's Format is the Big Question ???
:o
Quote from: andolin on July 01, 2013, 08:22:06 PM
Well I doubt that O will commit troops against the Egypt's legitimate government without UN sanctions
Except it isn't a legitimate government. Morsi is an Islamist tyrant; he's a front man for the Islamic Brotherhood. The only reason why they won the election is because of their aptitude for intimidating the domestic population. Egypt's tourism industry is the country's primary source of income, and because of the Muslims, it has now shut down. Because of their belief in a divine mandate to destroy absolutely everything that is not explicitly Islamic, the Muslims are not interested in protecting Egypt's antiquities, either; in fact, they'd rather destroy them.
If I thought the American government could be trusted to engage in the appropriate stewardship and preservation of Egypt's treasures, then I would advocate a full scale American invasion and formal annexation of the country.
Quote from: Somamech on July 01, 2013, 08:40:02 PM
What is the Mil's Format is the Big Question ???:o
As I had said before Soma, there will be a political request that is going to concern the American Embassy, then there will be a reaction response where the Egyptian leader will cry 'Civil Unrest' and there by raising Americas presence with in the Egyptian State on high alert, calling for this as a 'Defensive response to possible American casualties of Americas Representatives with in the area' i.e. the American Embassy, once they situate the 'Riot Police' they will have already been acclimated to the defensive response as to the Civil unrest, once thing's really start getting too close, American Embassy has right too defend it's American politicians and Representatives and will there by be able to declare one of two states of action:
(1.) American power's decide that thing's are to close too civil war they don't want a part of and pull out all of the Embassy's employees and let Egyptian Gubment handle the civil unrest through the Defense department through the U.N. either get assistance to either get Moesi out of office or get assistance to keep civil unrest down by mil control, i.e. the apparently current move of the US putting riot counteraction steps into position for welfare of the people of the Embassy.
(2.) Declare a state of emergency, get U.n. too support a claim of Coupe DE tat and say it is a scandal to over throw the current gubment to gain control of the country and it's military, if this should be the call, the US is a high hand holder in these affairs, will will occupy with intention's of arresting the civil unrest and also get the green light to enough to determine justifiable declaration of Mil. amnesty there by being in perfect jurisdiction to gain power of both defending the current Gubment and also give us just cause with 'Plausible deniability' too defend with 'Deadly Force' .
Either way, we are not hearing all of the story here. As far as the statue being moved and anything else that is released from or about Egypt is fodder for the thought's, for we aren't never going to be sure of how deep the water's are running at any given time with in the civil Unrest being reported, but, you can take it to the bank that the US is keeping their eyes closely peeled for the appropriate and decisive time where they can and will defend their investments with in the military prowess that the US has instilled too the Egyptian gubment by a tremendous amount of financial and strategic investments, US didn't just haphazardly pick Egypt as a 'Good Friend's' or an ally because of their ability to have a respectful form of gubment, quite the contrary too be exact, it is Egypt's geological location and Mil. Prowess and capabilities that the US has invested in all along.
Though these religious affiliation's are an important part of the scheme of thing's, keep in mind, when Israel and Pakistan were having problems in the past, Hezbollah was a group that was voted into office for gubment control, even after long debate and agreement by Israel, who now, coincidentally, have Hezbollah marked as Terrorists and nothing but land profiteering pirates to cause harm, and this is over a simple piece of land.
Any gubment in my conclusion is too convoluted with all the wrong priorities in place as they have them. it has became a greed and pissing game of control and unimportant interpretation's from one individuals vision and how the others are slamming fists into the tables in response of anything that goes against the grains of what they had intended for their personal agendas or ideologies of how and who should run such gubment or country.
It is all very important, but in retrospect, absolutely unnecessary, it is loss of what is important for the people and more to do with the conveyance of what is going to create more power and control. And Undo is correct, this time will be a blood bath, probably even worse than Syrian incident, want too see scary number's? look in to the civilian life lost there, and nothing really was ever reported about it until the chemical warfare issue came into consideration, very scary indeed for the people Undo. :'(
1WW
The US government cannot control the Muslim Brotherhood.
The MB is part of the shadow government (elements of which are in the US government). Call it CIA, its Fifth Column. That same CIA is busy
collecting everything it can on everyone, and categorizing it, holding
onto it forever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ga4-JMTZZw
Robert Bauval who lives in egypt across from the pyramids is on coast2coast tonight
Quote from: Gigas on July 02, 2013, 06:18:39 AM
Robert Bauval who lives in egypt across from the pyramids is on coast2coast tonight
i listened to it. interesting man.
folks, we need updates on what's happening there today. i'm concerned.
today is day 0 for the army's ultimatum. if indeed they are supporting the people of egypt, that would by rights include the radicals as well.
let's just hope they aren't exterminating each other as we speak.
it's a damn blackout. all the reports, except one (army amassing on border with israel to supposedly keep revolution from spilling over into israel), is from yesterday or earlier.
this is getting serious. for all we know, all those protestors could be undergoing a holocaust of epic proportions.
The MB headquarters has been ransacked, there is supposedly a meeting
this afternoon between Morsi, the remaining leaders. Some stepped down.
At least 16 dead, clash continues
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/145901-support-for-morsi-wanes-as-egypt-protests-continue/
QuoteState TV later reported the resignation of Cabinet spokesmman Alaa el-Hadidy.
Also Tuesday, an Egyptian court dealt another blow to Morsi's authority, ruling that the president's widely disputed appointment of an attorney general last November was illegal.
Morsi's dismissal of Mahmoud Abdel-Meguid, who was appointed by Mubarak, was seen by the judiciary as an encroachment on its independence. The opposition has long demanded the removal of Abdel-Meguid's successor, Talaat Abdullah.
Quote from: burntheships on July 02, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
The MB headquarters has been ransacked, there is supposedly a meeting
this afternoon between Morsi, the remaining leaders. Some stepped down.
At least 16 dead, clash continues
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/145901-support-for-morsi-wanes-as-egypt-protests-continue/
ALL of that is from yesterday and the day before!
This just up, 1 minute ago
http://www.wctrib.com/content/egypt-military-has-plans-suspend-islamist-backed-constitution-dissolve-legislature
QuoteCAIRO - Egypt's military has drawn up a plan to suspend the Islamist-backed constitution, dissolve the Islamist-dominated legislature and set up an interim administration headed by the country's chief justice if President Mohammed Morsi fails to reach a solution with his opponents by the end of a Wednesday deadline, the state news agency reported.
The report Tuesday provided the first details on the road map that the military has said it will implement if Morsi fails to meet its ultimatum, as millions of protesters returned to the streets for the third straight day in their drive to force the Islamist president out of office.
Protesters turned to a new target, massing a giant crowd outside the Qasr el-Qobba presidential palace where Morsi has been working in recent days, in addition to filling wide avenues outside another palace, central Tahrir Square and main squares in cities nationwide - http://www.wctrib.com/content/egypt-military-has-plans-suspend-islamist-backed-constitution-dissolve-legislature#sthash.gSTMHQPo.dpuf
Here is a link to a live feed, the protests are still on
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/52373312/
It sounds horrific
Quote from: burntheships on July 02, 2013, 08:04:41 PM
Here is a link to a live feed, the protests are still on
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/52373312/
It sounds horrific
are we sure that's live? its hard to tell since it looks identical to yesterday's live feed. just a big mass of people with music and fireworks.
Turkey and Brazil too... hordes of people
"Times they are a Changin...."
This is what happens when the sheep wake up :P
Quote from: zorgon on July 02, 2013, 08:30:47 PM
Turkey and Brazil too... hordes of people
"Times they are a Changin...."
This is what happens when the sheep wake up :P
good grief, i would've woke up from that nightmare before it even happened. lol
shudder.
Quote from: undo11 on July 02, 2013, 08:16:40 PM
are we sure that's live?
No I am not sure, I was just going on it says its a live feed.
It could be reruns, msm has been known to do it.
:(
the crap hit the fan. :-\
morsi just unleashed armaggedon on the protestors by encouraging his bros to have at it during his speech. holey rusted metal batman. according to an egyptian that's on this thread http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread956569/pg4 the protestors are unarmed, but the bros are armed to the teeth. this is gonna get messy. already 200 injured and 6 dead at cairo university -- all anti-morsi peeps.
here's a quote from it:
Mursi, just gave a very,very dangerous speech literary 2 hours ago. He basically said:
He is not leaving, he is holding on to his chair and refusing to leave.
He gave the green light for his supporters to attack/kill protesters that oppose him.
He warned us of civil war, he is not going down with blood, heck even with blood he is not leaving.
Keep in mind that pro-muslim brotherhood protesters are ARMED! They have automatic firearms in their possession and have proved to us that they can and WILL fire on protesters in the last couple of days. The anti-Muslim brotherhood protesters FAR outnumber his supporters but we are unarmed! Signs and slogans cant fight against machine guns! We will not be using weapons to fight them because we don't want a civil war, we don't want another Syria, we just want to fix the country, we are asking for basic rights here, bread, justice, electricity, water and petrol for our cars. Thats what we are asking for and they are replying with machine guns and Molotovs!
Quote from: undo11 on July 03, 2013, 03:49:24 AM
the crap hit the fan. :-\
morsi just unleashed armaggedon on the protestors by encouraging his bros to have at it during his speech.
This is frightening, to think that money was given to these
MB, the guns they have Obama paid for.
This stinks!
Nazi muslims in charge of a democracy.
What could go wrong?
price of a barrel of oil just went up too, says one of the guys in the thread. it's over 100 now. this apparently due to egypt controlling the canal over there. why do our leaders insist on using that oil stuff when there are so many other alternatives?
Easy: Moneymoneypowermoneymoneypowerpowermoney.
glenn beck, who was warning people about the bros like 2 years ago, thinks they are going to end up with an even worse dictator. his rationale is that the US is the only country that has successfully had a revolution that resolved into a solid, functional republic / democracy. i hope he's wrong about egypt. here's his video on it
http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=28525177
Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 04:15:51 AM
What could go wrong?
I heard on a video from a local that Morsi freed the jailed MB's.
QuoteSecurity forces have arrested 15 bodyguards of Brotherhood leader Khairat al-Shater "after an exchange of fire in which no one was injured," Reuters reports based on "security sources":
Shater's family telephoned Al Jazeera television station to report that his home was under police attack.
The sources said security forces were involved in an exchange of fire with the guards after going to arrest them for alleged unlawful possession of firearms.
Shater's whereabouts were not immediately known. He is widely regarded as the strongest personality in the Islamist movement, but who was barred from running for president last year because he had been jailed under toppled ex-President Hosni Mubarak's authoritian rule.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jul/01/egypt-stanoff-millions-protest
the world is going nuts
Mohammed Morsi made a late-night televised appeal for calm.
In a late-night TV address, Mr Morsi rejected an army ultimatum that the crisis be resolved by Wednesday.
Mr Morsi said he would not be dictated to and urged protesters to remain peaceful. However, at least 16 people died at one pro-Morsi rally.
The army earlier leaked details of a draft "roadmap" for Egypt's future.
Details of the plan leaked to the BBC outlined new presidential elections, the suspension of the new constitution and the dissolution of parliament.
The army had warned on Monday that it would step in unless a solution was found, giving Mr Morsi 48 hours to find agreement with the opposition.
That ultimatum expires around 16:30 (15:30 BST) on Wednesday.
Clashes spreading
In a 45-minute address on state television, Mr Morsi said he respected the right to peaceful protest, but said respect for the constitutional order was the "only guarantee against further bloodshed".
"When there's violence and thuggery I must act," he said.
Mr Morsi said he would "give my life" to defend constitutional legitimacy,
it continues here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23154233
This is only a small taste of what is to come.
Once the US completes withdrawal from the middle east, we will see age- old grudges finally being settled left and right.
Egyptians also don't seem to 'get' the idea that even if you elect some lunatic as prez, you have to live with it for 4 years, or try to recall or impeach them.
Sure it sux, but that's how democracy works.
anyone know who morsi ran against in the election?
cause beck is saying the al'noor party is likely going to take the thing next, and they are even more radical than the mb.
In April 2012, after the disqualification of Khairat El-Shater, the Brotherhood's desired presidential candidate, Morsi emerged as the organization's new candidate. Following the initial elections in May, Morsi emergerd as one of the top two vote getters - receiving 24.8% - to ensure his inclusion in the final run-off election scheduled for mid-June 2012. He will face former prime minister Ahmed Shafik in the run-off.
In June 2012, Morsi was announced as the winner of the run-off elections, garnering 51.7% of the votes, and was officially made the new President of Egypt, marking the first time in history that an Islamist candidate becomes an Arab head-of-state. Morsi also becomes Egypt's fifth president and the first from outside the military
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/talking/85_Morsy.html
Quote from: undo11 on July 03, 2013, 04:54:35 AM
anyone know who morsi ran against in the election?
Here is some info, not sure if it is totally comprehensive.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/36/122/39510/Presidential-elections-/Presidential-elections-news/Electoral-commission-upholds-ban-on--presidential-.aspx
Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 04:52:45 AM
This is only a small taste of what is to come.
Indeed, its a powder keg, thinking of Syria in the mix.
Iraq is but one example -
Saddam and his minority population sect brutally ruled over the majority population sect for decades. Once the US leaves old scores will be settled.
Syria is in the same position, the minority sect is being overthrown.
Once sectarian war breaks out, sects from other countries will come to the aid of their brothers they see being killed.
It will be all out war.
Sunni - Shiite - Wahhabi
Place your bets now.
Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 04:15:51 AM
Nazi muslims in charge of a democracy.
What could go wrong?
That's like saying -
Socialist/Marxists in charge of the US.
What could go wrong?
Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 05:26:46 AM
Socialist/Marxists in charge of the US.
All according to the plan. I refer you to Saul Alinsky
Rule #3
Quote
(3). Change is brought about through relentless agitation and "trouble making" of a kind that radically disrupts society as it is. http://frontpagemag.com/2013/jack-kerwick/6-saul-alinsky-rules-that-explain-obamas-words-and-deeds/
Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 05:26:46 AM
That's like saying -
Socialist/Marxists in charge of the US.
What could go wrong?
The worst part is - People have been blowing the Whilstle on the Socialist infiltration of the US since the 60's - and it all fell on deaf ears!
That ones sure come back to bite the world in the ass.
Tom Perry and Yasmine Saleh 19 minutes ago
PoliticsEgyptMuslim Brotherhood
By Tom Perry and Yasmine Saleh
CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt's armed forces overthrew elected Islamist President Mohamed Mursi on Wednesday and announced a political transition with the support of a wide range of political, religious and youth leaders.
After a day of drama in which tanks and troops deployed near the presidential palace as a military deadline for Mursi to yield to mass protests passed, the top army commander announced on television that the president had "failed to meet the demands of the Egyptian people".
Flanked by political and religious leaders and top generals, General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi announced the suspension of the Islamist-tinged constitution and a roadmap for a return to democratic rule under a revised rulebook.
The president of the supreme constitutional court will act as interim head of state, assisted by an interim council and a technocratic government until new presidential and parliamentary elections are held.
"Those in the meeting have agreed on a roadmap for the future that includes initial steps to achieve the building of a strong Egyptian society that is cohesive and does not exclude anyone and ends the state of tension and division," Sisi said in a solemn address broadcast live on state television.
After he spoke, hundreds of thousands of anti-Mursi protesters in central Cairo's Tahrir Square erupted into wild cheering, setting off fireworks and waving flags. Cars drove around the capital honking their horns in celebration.
But a statement published in Mursi's name on his official Facebook page after Sisi's speech said the measures announced amounted to "a full military coup" and were "totally rejected".
The Arab world's most populous nation has been in turmoil since the fall of autocrat Hosni Mubarak as Arab Spring uprisings took hold in early 2011, arousing concern among allies in the West and in Israel, with which Egypt has a 1979 peace treaty.
The Muslim Brotherhood president, in office for just a year, was at a Republican Guard barracks surrounded by barbed wire, barriers and troops, but it was not clear whether he was under arrest. The state newspaper Al-Ahram said the military had told Mursi at 7 p.m. (1700 GMT) that he was no longer head of state.
"TERRORISTS AND FOOLS"
Military chiefs, vowing to restore order in a country racked by protests over Mursi's Islamist policies, earlier issued a call to battle in a statement headlined "The Final Hours". They said they were willing to shed blood against "terrorists and fools".
Armored vehicles took up position outside the state broadcasting headquarters on the Nile River bank, where soldiers patrolled the corridors and non-essential staff were sent home.
In another show of force, several hundred soldiers with armored vehicles staged a parade near the presidential palace, and security sources said Mursi and the entire senior leadership of his Muslim Brotherhood were banned from leaving the country.
Security sources told Reuters the authorities had sent a list of at least 40 leading members of the Brotherhood to airport police.
In a last-ditch statement a few minutes before the deadline, Mursi's office said a coalition government could be part of a solution to overcome the political crisis. But opposition parties refused to negotiate with him and met instead with the commander of the armed forces.
The Brotherhood's Egypt25 television station had broadcast live coverage of a rally of tens of thousands of Mursi supporters, even as the army moved tanks into position to prevent them from marching on the presidential palace or the Republican Guard barracks.
U.S. oil prices rose to a 14-month high above $100 a barrel partly on fears that unrest in Egypt could destabilize the Middle East and lead to supply disruption.
The massive anti-Mursi protests showed that the Brotherhood had not only alienated liberals and secularists by seeking to entrench Islamic rule, notably in a new constitution, but had also angered millions of Egyptians with economic mismanagement.
Tourism and investment have dried up, inflation is rampant and fuel supplies are running short, with power cuts lengthening in the summer heat and motorists spending hours fuelling cars.
Earlier, Mursi's spokesman said it was better that he die in defense of democracy than be blamed by history.
"It is better for a president, who would otherwise be returning Egypt to the days of dictatorship, from which God and the will of the people has saved us, to die standing like a tree," spokesman Ayman Ali said, "Rather than be condemned by history and future generations for throwing away the hopes of Egyptians for establishing a democratic life."
Liberal opponents said a rambling late-night television address by Mursi showed he had "lost his mind".
The official spokesman of the Muslim Brotherhood said supporters were willing to become martyrs to defend Mursi.
"There is only one thing we can do: we will stand in between the tanks and the president," Gehad El-Haddad told Reuters at the movement's protest encampment in a Cairo suburb that houses many military installations and is near the presidential palace.
The country's two main religious leaders, the head of the Al-Azhar Islamic institute and the Coptic Pope, both expressed their support for the army's roadmap in speeches after Sisi, as did the main liberal opposition leader, Nobel peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei.
(Reporting by Asma Alsharif, Alexander Dziadosz, Shaimaa Fayed, Maggie Fick, Alastair Macdonald, Shadia Nasralla, Tom Perry, Yasmine Saleh, Paul Taylor, Ahmed Tolba and Patrick Werr in Cairo, Abdelrahman Youssef in Alexandria, Yursi Mohamed in Ismailia and Phil Stewart in Washington; Writing by Paul Taylor; Editing by Peter Millership and Giles Elgood)
http://news.yahoo.com/egypts-mursi-defies-army-plots-future-without-him-010721364.html#/comics/
Quote• The US ambassador to Egypt, Anne Patterson, and the Muslim Brotherhood knew of the army's intention to take over as early 23 June, according to AP. Morsi failed to find allies in the army to prevent the coup, its sources said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jul/05/egypt-braced-day-of-rejection-live#block-51d6e428e4b0dfa44c10202c
QuoteIn reality, however, the countdown had begun as early as June 23, when Sisi gave Morsi and the opposition a week to work out their differences — a remote possibility given the wide gap between both sides.
Brotherhood officials said they saw the end coming based on Sisi's comments nine full days before Morsi's actual ouster.
"We knew it was over on 23 June Western ambassadors told us that," said another Brotherhood spokesman. US Ambassador Anne Patterson was one of the envoys, he added.
Asking the question the was MB installed,
they were the party that Barack Obama supported.
Barrys administration has a dozen MB, some even in
the whitehouse, so they are good enough for the whitehouse,
but not good enough for Egypt?
What is going on???
Whether (oz) ABC radio has it right or not, this is worth a Listen whilst chin stroking as they talk about The Egyptian Mil backing Prez's since the 1950's :O
Consider this a bit of Press Back Story I suppose!
Egypt: Where has the revolution gone? Sunday 7 July 2013 12:05PM QuoteIn the two and a half years since the uprisings that ousted Mubarak, Egyptians have held their first ever free and fair parliamentary elections, elected a new president, voted on a new constitution and had the president removed in a military coup. What's happened to the revolution in Egypt?
Egyptian anti-regime protesters set fire to the gate of the presidential palace during a demonstration in Cairo on February 8, 2013. Egyptian police fired tear gas at protesters who lobbed petrol bombs and set off fireworks outside the presidential palace, amid nationwide rallies against President Mohamed Morsi.
First broadcast 17 February 2013
SOURCE:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/egypt-what-happen-to-the-revolution/4798974
Way Odd
Search "Egypt" in Youtube, there is only video's from the last day !
:o
Police storm protest camps; 149 dead across Egypt QuoteRiot police backed by armored vehicles, bulldozers and helicopters Wednesday swept away two encampments of supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi, sparking running street battles elsewhere in Cairo and other Egyptian cities. At least 149 people were killed nationwide, many of them in the crackdown on the protest sites.
Vice President Mohamed ElBaradei, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate and pro-reform leader in the interim government, resigned in protest over the crackdown as the military-backed leadership imposed a monthlong state of emergency and nighttime curfew.
Clashes broke out elsewhere in the capital and other provinces, injuring more than 1,400 people nationwide, as Islamist anger spread over the crackdown on the 6-week-old sit-ins of Morsi supporters that divided the counrty. Police stations, government buildings and Coptic Christian churches were attacked or set ablaze.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_EGYPT?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-08-14-11-55-48