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Started by undo11, July 01, 2013, 02:43:06 PM

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sky otter

the world is going nuts





Mohammed Morsi made a late-night televised appeal for calm.

In a late-night TV address, Mr Morsi rejected an army ultimatum that the crisis be resolved by Wednesday.

Mr Morsi said he would not be dictated to and urged protesters to remain peaceful. However, at least 16 people died at one pro-Morsi rally.

The army earlier leaked details of a draft "roadmap" for Egypt's future.

Details of the plan leaked to the BBC outlined new presidential elections, the suspension of the new constitution and the dissolution of parliament.

The army had warned on Monday that it would step in unless a solution was found, giving Mr Morsi 48 hours to find agreement with the opposition.

That ultimatum expires around 16:30 (15:30 BST) on Wednesday.

Clashes spreading

In a 45-minute address on state television, Mr Morsi said he respected the right to peaceful protest, but said respect for the constitutional order was the "only guarantee against further bloodshed".

"When there's violence and thuggery I must act," he said.

Mr Morsi said he would "give my life" to defend constitutional legitimacy,

it continues here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23154233

A51Watcher



This is only a small taste of what is to come.

Once the US completes withdrawal from the middle east, we will see age- old grudges finally being settled left and right.


Egyptians also don't seem to 'get' the idea that even if you elect some lunatic as prez, you have to live with it for 4 years, or try to recall or impeach them.


Sure it sux, but that's how democracy works.



undo11

anyone know who morsi ran against in the election?
cause beck is saying the al'noor party is likely going to take the thing next, and they are even more radical than the mb.
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In April 2012, after the disqualification of Khairat El-Shater, the Brotherhood's desired presidential candidate, Morsi emerged as the organization's new candidate. Following the initial elections in May, Morsi emergerd as one of the top two vote getters - receiving 24.8% - to ensure his inclusion in the final run-off election scheduled for mid-June 2012.  He will face former prime minister Ahmed Shafik in the run-off.

In June 2012, Morsi was announced as the winner of the run-off elections, garnering 51.7% of the votes, and was officially made the new President of Egypt, marking the first time in history that an Islamist candidate becomes an Arab head-of-state. Morsi also becomes Egypt's fifth president and the first from outside the military


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/talking/85_Morsy.html

burntheships

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burntheships

Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 04:52:45 AM

This is only a small taste of what is to come.


Indeed, its a powder keg, thinking of Syria in the mix.

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A51Watcher



Iraq is but one example -

Saddam and his minority population sect brutally ruled over the majority population sect for decades. Once the US leaves old scores will be settled.

Syria is in the same position, the minority sect is being overthrown.


Once sectarian war breaks out, sects from other countries will come to the aid of their brothers they see being killed.

It will be all out war.


Sunni - Shiite - Wahhabi


Place your bets now.









A51Watcher

Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 04:15:51 AM


Nazi muslims in charge of a democracy.

What could go wrong?


That's like saying -


Socialist/Marxists in charge of the US.

What could go wrong?




burntheships

Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 05:26:46 AM

Socialist/Marxists in charge of the US.

All according to the plan. I refer you to Saul Alinsky
Rule #3

Quote

(3). Change is brought about through relentless agitation and "trouble making" of a kind that radically disrupts society as it is.  http://frontpagemag.com/2013/jack-kerwick/6-saul-alinsky-rules-that-explain-obamas-words-and-deeds/
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Sinny

Quote from: A51Watcher on July 03, 2013, 05:26:46 AM

That's like saying -


Socialist/Marxists in charge of the US.

What could go wrong?

The worst part is - People have been blowing the Whilstle on the Socialist infiltration of the US since the 60's - and it all fell on deaf ears!

That ones sure come back to bite the world in the ass.
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sky otter




Tom Perry and Yasmine Saleh 19 minutes ago

PoliticsEgyptMuslim Brotherhood
By Tom Perry and Yasmine Saleh

CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt's armed forces overthrew elected Islamist President Mohamed Mursi on Wednesday and announced a political transition with the support of a wide range of political, religious and youth leaders.

After a day of drama in which tanks and troops deployed near the presidential palace as a military deadline for Mursi to yield to mass protests passed, the top army commander announced on television that the president had "failed to meet the demands of the Egyptian people".

Flanked by political and religious leaders and top generals, General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi announced the suspension of the Islamist-tinged constitution and a roadmap for a return to democratic rule under a revised rulebook.

The president of the supreme constitutional court will act as interim head of state, assisted by an interim council and a technocratic government until new presidential and parliamentary elections are held.

"Those in the meeting have agreed on a roadmap for the future that includes initial steps to achieve the building of a strong Egyptian society that is cohesive and does not exclude anyone and ends the state of tension and division," Sisi said in a solemn address broadcast live on state television.

After he spoke, hundreds of thousands of anti-Mursi protesters in central Cairo's Tahrir Square erupted into wild cheering, setting off fireworks and waving flags. Cars drove around the capital honking their horns in celebration.
But a statement published in Mursi's name on his official Facebook page after Sisi's speech said the measures announced amounted to "a full military coup" and were "totally rejected".

The Arab world's most populous nation has been in turmoil since the fall of autocrat Hosni Mubarak as Arab Spring uprisings took hold in early 2011, arousing concern among allies in the West and in Israel, with which Egypt has a 1979 peace treaty.

The Muslim Brotherhood president, in office for just a year, was at a Republican Guard barracks surrounded by barbed wire, barriers and troops, but it was not clear whether he was under arrest. The state newspaper Al-Ahram said the military had told Mursi at 7 p.m. (1700 GMT) that he was no longer head of state.

"TERRORISTS AND FOOLS"

Military chiefs, vowing to restore order in a country racked by protests over Mursi's Islamist policies, earlier issued a call to battle in a statement headlined "The Final Hours". They said they were willing to shed blood against "terrorists and fools".

Armored vehicles took up position outside the state broadcasting headquarters on the Nile River bank, where soldiers patrolled the corridors and non-essential staff were sent home.
In another show of force, several hundred soldiers with armored vehicles staged a parade near the presidential palace, and security sources said Mursi and the entire senior leadership of his Muslim Brotherhood were banned from leaving the country.

Security sources told Reuters the authorities had sent a list of at least 40 leading members of the Brotherhood to airport police.

In a last-ditch statement a few minutes before the deadline, Mursi's office said a coalition government could be part of a solution to overcome the political crisis. But opposition parties refused to negotiate with him and met instead with the commander of the armed forces.

The Brotherhood's Egypt25 television station had broadcast live coverage of a rally of tens of thousands of Mursi supporters, even as the army moved tanks into position to prevent them from marching on the presidential palace or the Republican Guard barracks.

U.S. oil prices rose to a 14-month high above $100 a barrel partly on fears that unrest in Egypt could destabilize the Middle East and lead to supply disruption.

The massive anti-Mursi protests showed that the Brotherhood had not only alienated liberals and secularists by seeking to entrench Islamic rule, notably in a new constitution, but had also angered millions of Egyptians with economic mismanagement.
Tourism and investment have dried up, inflation is rampant and fuel supplies are running short, with power cuts lengthening in the summer heat and motorists spending hours fuelling cars.

Earlier, Mursi's spokesman said it was better that he die in defense of democracy than be blamed by history.

"It is better for a president, who would otherwise be returning Egypt to the days of dictatorship, from which God and the will of the people has saved us, to die standing like a tree," spokesman Ayman Ali said, "Rather than be condemned by history and future generations for throwing away the hopes of Egyptians for establishing a democratic life."

Liberal opponents said a rambling late-night television address by Mursi showed he had "lost his mind".

The official spokesman of the Muslim Brotherhood said supporters were willing to become martyrs to defend Mursi.

"There is only one thing we can do: we will stand in between the tanks and the president," Gehad El-Haddad told Reuters at the movement's protest encampment in a Cairo suburb that houses many military installations and is near the presidential palace.

The country's two main religious leaders, the head of the Al-Azhar Islamic institute and the Coptic Pope, both expressed their support for the army's roadmap in speeches after Sisi, as did the main liberal opposition leader, Nobel peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei.

(Reporting by Asma Alsharif, Alexander Dziadosz, Shaimaa Fayed, Maggie Fick, Alastair Macdonald, Shadia Nasralla, Tom Perry, Yasmine Saleh, Paul Taylor, Ahmed Tolba and Patrick Werr in Cairo, Abdelrahman Youssef in Alexandria, Yursi Mohamed in Ismailia and Phil Stewart in Washington; Writing by Paul Taylor; Editing by Peter Millership and Giles Elgood)



http://news.yahoo.com/egypts-mursi-defies-army-plots-future-without-him-010721364.html#/comics/

burntheships

Quote• The US ambassador to Egypt, Anne Patterson, and the Muslim Brotherhood knew of the army's intention to take over as early 23 June, according to AP. Morsi failed to find allies in the army to prevent the coup, its sources said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jul/05/egypt-braced-day-of-rejection-live#block-51d6e428e4b0dfa44c10202c

QuoteIn reality, however, the countdown had begun as early as June 23, when Sisi gave Morsi and the opposition a week to work out their differences — a remote possibility given the wide gap between both sides.

Brotherhood officials said they saw the end coming based on Sisi's comments nine full days before Morsi's actual ouster.

"We knew it was over on 23 June Western ambassadors told us that," said another Brotherhood spokesman. US Ambassador Anne Patterson was one of the envoys, he added.

Asking the question the was MB installed,
they were the party that Barack Obama supported.

Barrys administration has a dozen MB, some even in
the whitehouse, so they are good enough for the whitehouse,
but not good enough for Egypt?

What is going on???

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Somamech

Whether (oz) ABC radio has it right or not, this is worth a Listen whilst chin stroking as they talk about The Egyptian Mil backing Prez's since the 1950's :O

Consider this a bit of Press Back Story I suppose!

Egypt: Where has the revolution gone?


    Sunday 7 July 2013 12:05PM

QuoteIn the two and a half years since the uprisings that ousted Mubarak, Egyptians have held their first ever free and fair parliamentary elections, elected a new president, voted on a new constitution and had the president removed in a military coup. What's happened to the revolution in Egypt?

Egyptian anti-regime protesters set fire to the gate of the presidential palace during a demonstration in Cairo on February 8, 2013. Egyptian police fired tear gas at protesters who lobbed petrol bombs and set off fireworks outside the presidential palace, amid nationwide rallies against President Mohamed Morsi.

First broadcast 17 February 2013

SOURCE:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/egypt-what-happen-to-the-revolution/4798974




Somamech

Way Odd

Search "Egypt" in Youtube, there is only video's from the last day !

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burntheships

Police storm protest camps; 149 dead across Egypt   

QuoteRiot police backed by armored vehicles, bulldozers and helicopters Wednesday swept away two encampments of supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi, sparking running street battles elsewhere in Cairo and other Egyptian cities. At least 149 people were killed nationwide, many of them in the crackdown on the protest sites.

Vice President Mohamed ElBaradei, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate and pro-reform leader in the interim government, resigned in protest over the crackdown as the military-backed leadership imposed a monthlong state of emergency and nighttime curfew.

Clashes broke out elsewhere in the capital and other provinces, injuring more than 1,400 people nationwide, as Islamist anger spread over the crackdown on the 6-week-old sit-ins of Morsi supporters that divided the counrty. Police stations, government buildings and Coptic Christian churches were attacked or set ablaze.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_EGYPT?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-08-14-11-55-48
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