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Egypt is undergoing some high strangeness

Started by undo11, July 01, 2013, 02:43:06 PM

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undo11

You have to see this stuff to believe it.  egypt and cairo in particular, is, only one year after their first democratic election, already demanding their democratically elected president morsi, step down.  they have stormed and ransacked morsi's muslim brotherhood building in cairo and carted off/destroyed most of the equipment. 

the protestors are saying that morsi is not representing the people, is favoring the muslim brotherhood in particular, and that the brotherhood's actions are causing people to hate islam. 

the streets are packed, all over egypt, with protestors.  meanwhile, back on our front, it's eerily quiet as regards this topic.  things that make you go hmmmm....



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undo11

part of the problem is that egypt is rather like the usa-- a mixed bag of many cultural and religious views.  forcing hard core islam on egyptians is probably not the best idea in the world.
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there's a video on this link that covers the comments above

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/eight-killed-hundreds-injured-as-protesters-clash-in-egypt-1.1347601

can anyone figure out why the US media is being so low key on this subject? anyone?
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because Undo11, if the blood bath starts, the U.S. doesn't want to be acknowledged as a very big financial backer and contributor to the Egyptian Military or it's gubment consort's when TSHTF There by claiming 'Plausible Deniability' with in confines of U.N. Consulate possibly seeing the U.S. as the single largest contributor to oust an Egypt of not their liking?

QuoteThis article has been updated to reflect new developments. It was first published on Jan. 31, 2011.

The regime change in Egypt — and in particular, the riots outside the American embassy last month — have prompted renewed questions about American aid to the country. (A recent poll found that 42 percent of Americans supported cutting aid to Egypt; 29 percent supported cutting it off altogether.)

We've taken a step back and tried to answer some basic questions, including how much the U.S. is giving Egypt, what's changed since the Arab Spring and who is benefiting from all this aid money.

F.A.Q. on U.S. Aid to Egypt: Where Does the Money Go—And Who Decides How It's Spent?

If you follow the time line of  these affiliation's, you can clearly see the interest's the US has had for Egypt to be an ally, it has a darker purpose I believe, and if you look at the African and middle east continent's as a whole, it even becomes more concerning of a transition too favor US occupation with out looking as such.

Another good avenue to research is with in Stratfor Investigative reports, there are so many of these types of scenario's and researches out there, it is a question to the individual trying to decipher it all for what it all truly means. I for one, have my own point of view over this matter, and having relatives that live in that part of the world, and me being in the US, well, let's just say we don't hear a lot of the 'Truth' of what is actually going on over there. Sad when you trust a Blog more than your own Gubment for sure. :'(

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Ellirium113

Here is an interesting tidbit on the Muslim Brotherhood that might throw some light onto the situation...

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THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD'S INFLUENCE IN EGYPT IS GROWING

July 30, 2011 By Joseph P. Farrell


Yesterday in my News and Views from the Nefarium I spoke about the growing influence of the Muslim Brotherhood in post-Mubarek Egypt, and how it appears that this radical Islamist group is poised to gain significant influence, if not control, over Egypt's parliament:

Egypt\'s Simmering Rage

As I mentioned, the Muslim Brotherhood took its beginning when the banksters in London and New York decided in the 1920s to back the Ikhwan al Muslimeen, the Muslim Brotherhood or, as we also call them, the Wahhabists, who, using a radicalized version of Islam, waged war and installed the House of Saud, who then tossed the Muslim Brotherhood out of the country. From Saudi Arabia, most of this group emigrated to Egypt, joining the Egyptian version created by Hassan Al Banna. During the Second World War, this group, according to researcher John Loftus, "became a fully integrated arm of the German intelligence and propaganda networks during WWII." (John Loftus, America's Nazi Secret, p. 14).  Indeed, as I have pointed out in The Nazi International, the ties didn't end when the war did, for this group was the circle in which the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Al Husseini – himself a staunch supporter of the Nazis and who even helped to raise Muslim Waffen SS troops to fight in Russia – moved, as well as his cousin, Yasser Arafat. It was also this group that maintained contact with the SS officers sent to "train" Egyptian intelligence after the overthrow of King Farouk, ostensibly at the behest of the CIA.It was this group of Nazis that translated the notorious Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion into Arabic, a translation used to this day in radical Islamist cells.

Gamel Abdul Nasser threw this group out of Egypt, but they were welcomed back into Saudi Arabia, where they were used as school teachers! Notes Loftus "It was a perfect storm of Nazi racism and Wahhabbi bigotry." (Loftus, op. cit., p. 15. For a review of this history, see pp. 13-15 of Loftus' book). All this took place, of course, in the wake of the establishment of the Zionist state of Israel in 1948.

We could, of course, view the growing influence of the Muslim Brotherhood in post-Mubarek Egypt as being the result of the hidden manipulations of one of the two power-brokering groups lurking in its history, i.e., the banksters of London and New York, and/or the post-war Fascist/Nazi International.  But I think this goes much deeper. We are looking, in my opinion, at the setting up of the three great Yahwisms – the three so-called "great monotheisms" that all, to some extent, base their religious patrimony on the character of the God of the Old Testament – to take a fall. We are looking, in other words, at yet another step being put into place for what I call "The Acopalypse Theater."  The question is, to what end, and who is really behind it? That, I'm afraid, must await its own time and place, and its own book, to answer.

In the short term, however, this "revolution" that we see going on in the Middle East was not, in my opinion, ever entirely spontaneous. It had too much of the air of coordination about it, and for all their might and money, I don't think the Banksters are entirely happy with what is going on, at least, not in the short term. The empire is unraveling, and there is factional infighting within the corridors of New World Order globalism. The radical Islamists are merely das Kanonenfutter...


http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/07/the-muslim-brotherhoods-influence-in-egypt-is-growing/

undo11

of the snippets of info i am able to get, it would seem to me egypt has sooo many different religious viewpoints, many of which are centered on ancient egyptian history, that it's a real head scratcher that they even elected a radical muslim for president in the first place. 

this is a weird scenario, to be sure.  i still can't figure out what is going on. 
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burntheships

I am stating the obvious here, however this begs the question...
The U.S. intervened last time, and played a heavy
hand. This time we are doing nothing?

Well, here let me put it this way; The U.S. interferred last time,
in a matter that we should not have and now look.

Not to say that this uprising is the result of the last....
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burntheships

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 01, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
Here is an interesting tidbit on the Muslim Brotherhood that might throw some light onto the situation...

http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/07/the-muslim-brotherhoods-influence-in-egypt-is-growing/

Good info there Ellirium.

@Undo, I dont think the egyptians really picked the MB as the lead,
it was a set up IMO. The U.S. helped that with a heavy hand,
none other than B O and his other MB buddies.

Anne Patterson is actually telling the Copts not to protest the MB.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/u-s-asks-egypts-christians-not-to-oppose-morsi/



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Somamech

This is the very reason why I have come to a conclusion that the "Moving Egyptian Statue" reported last week was a Political Stunt.. and a very good one at that  ;D

Suddenly I see Egypt in the Media again this week!   











andolin

Quote from: Somamech on July 01, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
This is the very reason why I have come to a conclusion that the "Moving Egyptian Statue" reported last week was a Political Stunt.. and a very good one at that  ;D

Suddenly I see Egypt in the Media again this week!   

Nice connection....Egypt doing a 360...

Somamech

Actually my viewpoint Andolin!

Is that they knew it was going to hit MSM again and fired a a shot across the bow :D

I made a point in the original thread here about Egypt and The Moving Statue's that revolve's around the fact that things are pretty screwed up there and it's not being reported on MSM, if you are morbid like myself I listen to Talk Radio at work where it was always discussed !

Quick search for One of my Fave Radio Show's here:


http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/search/?query=Egypt+Late+Night+Live&num_ranks=20

Somamech

Oops I may read wrong...

Basically my understanding has been that The Uprising has been pissed after the election.  The never did stop uprising, it just wasn't reported in the wider media.  Hence they knew what was coming up and used the moving statue as a means of gaining attention.  I like their work in this case if my assumptions are correct!  ;D

And like Undo said roughly, the young Arab's are a mixed bunch  and they don't want another nutter ruling them!


andolin

Yah.....They said 2 months ago that June 30 was the deadline...It is really heating up now..CNN reports the Egyptian military has said they will take action against the Government if Moesi doesn't step down;
Quote From Huff Post'

"CAIRO -- Egypt's powerful military warned on Monday it will intervene if the Islamist president doesn't "meet the people's demands," giving him and his opponents two days to reach an agreement, as thousands of protesters massed for a second day calling on Mohammed Morsi to step down"
Andy

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