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QuoteIn June 1965, Major James McDivitt saw, filmed, and photographed an object, which approached the Gemini IV (3rd June -- 7th June 1965) capsule in which they were orbiting the Earth, passing over Hawaii. He stated: "It had a very definite shape - a cylindrical object - it was white - it had a long arm that stuck out on the side." . . .
Link is from ASU marked as UNIDENTIFIED GT4 - Gemini titan 4 Download a copy now
http:// tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/data_g/G04/Unidentified/full/GT4-37149-039_G04-U_f.png
(http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/data_g/G04/Unidentified/full/GT4-37149-039_G04-U_f.png)
Looks like the thing you posted the other day, which I called a 'blotch', looks like more than a blotch here...
What the frig? :o
I'm also feeling the effects of your government closure lol
http://notice.usa.gov/
Link from here:
http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/
It looks like a problem with the photo, just like the ones three photos after that one.
(http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/data_g/G04/Unidentified/small/GT4-37149-042_G04-U_s.png)
Full resolution (http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/data_g/G04/Unidentified/full/GT4-37149-042_G04-U_f.png)
Aside from the fact that there is no object in the picture, the "thing" in the picture has no side arm and is not white. This is not the one filmed by Jim McDivett surely.
Or am I having another thick moment?
a quick search takes me to a you tube with that picture
MUST SEE UFO Major James McDivitt UFO? (Picture Found.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeLZVDbKu0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeLZVDbKu0
Published on Oct 1, 2013
In June 1965, Major James McDivitt saw, filmed, and photographed an object, which approached the Gemini IV (3rd June -- 7th June 1965) capsule in which they were orbiting the Earth, passing over Hawaii. He stated: "It had a very definite shape - a cylindrical object - it was white - it had a long arm that stuck out on the side."
Image Link - (Download before it disappears.) I have my own idea what it maybe! what do you think it could be? link http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu//data_g/...
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Gemini 4 / Astronaut James McDivitt sighting of cylindrical object in space
Date: June, 1965
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In June 1965, Major James McDivitt saw, filmed, and photographed an object, which approached the Gemini IV (3rd June – 7th June 1965) capsule in which they were orbiting the Earth, passing over Hawaii. He stated: "It had a very definite shape - a cylindrical object - it was white - it had a long arm that stuck out on the side."
Astronaut James McDivitt (right) in the Gemini IV capsule along with Astronaut Ed White.
Classification & Features
Type of Case/Report: StandardCase
Hynek Classification: ND
Shape of Object(s): Cylinder
# of Witnesses: Single
Special Features/Characteristics: Astronaut/Space
More Articles on this Case
The Gemini 4 UFO (Skeptical analysis by James Oberg)
James Oberg, UFO Report magazine (Fall 1981)
Many UFO researchers claim the object seen by astronaut James McDivitt is one of the best saucer sightings on record. Unfortunately, a close look at the evidence proves that just isn't so.
Condon Report statement on Gemini 4 UFO sighting
Franklin Roach, in the The Condon Report, 1968
"There are three visual sightings made by the astronauts while in orbit which, in the judgment of the writer, have not been adequately explained. These include: Gemini 4, astronaut McDivitt. Observation of a cylindrical object with a protuberance. R
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Source: Patrick Gross, UFOs at Close Sight (ufologie.net)
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In June 1965, Major James McDivitt saw, filmed, and photographed an object, which approached the Gemini IV (3rd June – 7th June 1965) capsule in which they were orbiting the Earth, passing over Hawaii. The UFO had a long arm sticking out of it.
Here is what Major James McDivitt repeated many times:
"I was flying with Ed White. He was sleeping at the time so I don't have anybody to verify my story. We were drifting in space with the control engines shut down and all the instrumentation off (when) suddenly (an object) appeared in the window. It had a very definite shape - a cylindrical object - it was white - it had a long arm that stuck out on the side. I don't know whether it was a very small object up close or a very large object a long ways away. There was nothing to judge by. I really don't know how big it was. We had two cameras that were just floating in the spacecraft at the time, so I grabbed one and took a picture of (the object) and grabbed the other and took a picture. Then I turned on the rocket control systems because I was afraid we might hit it. At the time we were drifting - without checking I have no idea which way we were going - but as we drifted up a little farther the sun shone on the window of the spacecraft. The windshield was dirty - just like in an automobile, you can't see through it. So I had the rocket control engines going again and moved the spacecraft so that the window was in darkness again - the object was gone. I called down later and told them what had happened and they went back and checked their records of other space debris that was flying around but we were never able to identify what it could have been. The film was sent back to NASA and reviewed by some NASA film technicians. One of them selected what he thought was what we talked about, at least before I had a chance to review it. It was not the picture - it was a picture of a sun reflection on the window."
The "Condon Report" is considered by almost all ufologists and by several scientists who participated to it as a deliberate attempt to debunk the UFO phenomenon, did validate the McDivitt UFO sighting and several other astronaut sightings:
"There are three visual sightings made by the astronauts while in orbit which, in the judgment of the writer, have not been adequately explained. These are: 1. Gemini 4, astronaut McDivitt. Observation of a cylindrical object with a protuberance. 2. Gemini 4, astronaut McDivitt. Observation of a moving bright light at a higher level than the Gemini spacecraft. 3. Gemini 7, astronaut Borman saw what he described as a 'bogey' flying in formation with the spacecraft."
And later: "visual sightings made by the astronauts while in orbit which, in the judgment of the writer, have not been adequately explained.... Unexplained sightings which have been gleaned from a great mass of reports are a challenge to the analyst. Especially puzzling is Especially puzzling is the first one [The one presented here] of an object showing details such as arms protruding from a body having a noticeable angular extension. If the NORAD listing of objects near the GT-4 spacecraft at the time of the sighting is complete as it presumably is, we shall have to find a rational explanation or, alternatively, keep it on our list of unidentifieds."
In 1975, McDivitt adds: "I never made a big deal out of it. It was something I definitely couldn't identify. I reported it to the ground ... Ed was asleep and we were rotating at a pretty high rate in drifting flight. The windows were dirty, I recall ... All of a sudden there was this white object out there. It looked like a beer can with a pencil sticking out of it at an angle. It had a definite cylinder shape, about three times as long as its diameter." Maloney adds that the astronaut estimated that he got a 30-second look at the object. Furthermore, McDivitt said, the space agency made no attempt to prevent his telling his UFO story.
A NORAD officer later handed to the well known debunker Klass a print of the Titan-II second stage. This, he told Klass, was what McDivitt had seen but was unable to identify: the Titan booster. Klass obtained a copy of the photo from NORAD and sent it to McDivitt, asking if it did not closely correspond to his verbal description of the UFO he had seen. McDivitt replied:
"Thank you for sending me the slide of the Gemini-IV photograph. I very quickly identified the object in the photograph as the second stage of the Titan rocket which launched us ... I am sure that this is not a photograph of the object which I described many times and which many people refer to as the Gemini IV UFO...."
McDivitt did not see any special importance in what he saw. He did not file any UFO report, he also always insisted that it was not the Titan II booster. He also never gave an opinion about the nature of what he saw. Some researchers rightfully noted that the astronauts eyesight was affected by the long exposition to the oxygen saturated atmosphere in the Gemini capsule. Some ufo-promoters did exaggerate the story. But debunkers did understimate it also on occasion. Almost everyone agrees that it could not have been a human satellite, such as a secret US satellite or a Russian craft.
Case ID: 977 edit: 977
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Quote from: Pimander on October 05, 2013, 02:35:10 PM
Or am I having another thick moment?
I don't think so, the description doesn't match the photo, which is not surprising, as he wouldn't be able to see a fault in the photo. :)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on October 05, 2013, 02:30:23 PM
Can't tell too much. If this is exactly what he saw or the result of a glitch in the photo. I ran a contour detection on the photo, one in color and one in grayscale and it (to me) appears to be something there but due to a processing glitch, as in the ones ArMap posted, you can't really tell. Very interesting.
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m623/Sgt_Rocknroll/Mac-1b_zps5616e6ea.jpg) (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/Sgt_Rocknroll/media/Mac-1b_zps5616e6ea.jpg.html)
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m623/Sgt_Rocknroll/Mac-1a_zps1ada0020.jpg) (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/Sgt_Rocknroll/media/Mac-1a_zps1ada0020.jpg.html)
ok taking a break from mowing and doing a bit more searching.. seems a very different pic shows up
here's a little of what i have so far
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McDivitt
On the second day, over Hawaii, while White was asleep, McDivitt happened to see an unidentified flying object, which he described as looking "like a beer can or a pop can, and with a little thing like maybe like a pencil or something sticking out of it." He got a camera and took a few photographs of it, but did not have time to properly set exposure or focus properly. He believes that since it was visible to him, it must have been in an orbit close to that of his spacecraft, probably a piece of ice or Mylar insulation having broken off of it.[3]
Word of the "UFO photos" reached the press by the time the flight splashed down, and one eager reporter waited for the Gemini 4 photos to be processed. He found one with a cluster of three or four images that looked like disc-shaped objects with tails, which became known as the "tadpole" photo. McDivitt has identified these as reflections of bolts in the multipaned windows.[3]
Gordon Cooper wrote in his memoirs that as far as he knows, it is the only officially reported account of a UFO in any of the Mercury, Gemini or Apollo missions.[4]
http://ronrecord.com/astronauts/white-mcdivitt.html
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/ufo-mc10.jpg)
Read more: http://life.time.com/history/a-space-walk-that-went-gloriously-right-edward-white-makes-history-june-1965/#ixzz2gs4mK38k
Still, all these years later, there's something about White's space walk — and, especially, about the wonderful color photographs of the endeavor made by Gemini 4 commander James McDivitt — that stirs heady emotions in the viewer.
http://stellar-views.com/Photos_Gemini_P2.html
http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html
http://massufosightings.blogspot.com/2013/10/ufo-sightings-nasa-mission-captures.html
Quote from: ArMaP on October 05, 2013, 12:46:30 PM
It looks like a problem with the photo, just like the ones three photos after that one.
(http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/data_g/G04/Unidentified/small/GT4-37149-042_G04-U_s.png)
Full resolution (http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/data_g/G04/Unidentified/full/GT4-37149-042_G04-U_f.png)
I was also thinking photo anomaly. If you look at ASU moon photos...they actually say that there might be certain processing problems that come out on the film. I thinkwe had discussed a similar issue before.
Best to know who we are chatting about :D
James A. McDivitt (Brig. General, USAF Ret.)
NASA Astronaut (former)
IMG SOURCE Nasa:
(http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/portraits/mcdivitt.jpg)
Bio here:
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/mcdivitt-ja.html
Wiki Page which should get Chins wagging!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McDivitt
QuoteAppeared on The Brady Bunch in a 5th season season episode about UFO's. He appeared as himself as the guest on a talk show to talk about his UFO experience. At the end of the talk show, he signed autographs for the characters Peter Brady and Bobby Brady.
I am Geoblocked from this video episode of the Brady Bunch on CBS. But for all you folke in NOrth America no doubt you can see it :D
http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_brady_bunch/video/2111486222/the-brady-bunch-out-of-this-world
Some Publications he either wrote or referenced from the wikipedia entry :
http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n00-44087
This is kinda intersting in that above link Quote
Works: 23 works in 27 publications in 2 languages and 535 library holdings
Roles: Photographer
Classifications: qe33.2.a3,
Quote from: Somamech on October 05, 2013, 07:43:34 PM
Best to know who we are chatting about :D
James A. McDivitt (Brig. General, USAF Ret.)
NASA Astronaut (former)
IMG SOURCE Nasa:
(http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/portraits/mcdivitt.jpg)
Bio here:
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/mcdivitt-ja.html
I thought we were talking about a photo and/or film. :)
Hehe ;D
Whats the good of pic without a quick background check on who is being discussed to at least find out who this person was, and did back in the day ;)
No matter which way it's twistied, this guy worked where he did and spoke ufo's. I never heard of this before and have taken the angle to find out who he is ;)
Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
He got a camera and took a few photographs of it, but did not have time to properly set exposure or focus properly.
Seriously? Sees a UFO but doesn't focus?
Okay it's official :P UFOlogy is Dead :-X
Thing is this picture.... most likely it's NOT the one he saw, just one someone on the internet used. I posted it because it was interesting, and hopefully we can find the real picture... but if it's out of focus then it won't help us much anyway
Quote from: Somamech on October 05, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
Hehe ;D
Whats the good of pic without a quick background check on who is being discussed to at least find out who this person was, and did back in the day ;)
The pic has the same value, regardless of the background of who took it. :)
The first link posted by sky otter (I do follow the links, sometimes ;) ) says this:
McDivitt has publicly denied having seen a aliencraft and states that the released picture was not the object that he saw.
Does that mean that there isn't a photo or that they didn't publish it? :)
geeeeeeeze guys.. i posted the pic that was accreddited to him
hands in the air and shaking head as i walk away..
Z is right..
nobody reads nothin
:(
Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
geeeeeeeze guys.. i posted the pic that was accreddited to him
Z is right..
nobody reads nothin
Your right.... you did :D
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/ufo-mc10.jpg)
opps..missed this one..it goes with the other blue one above
http://ronrecord.com/astronauts/white-mcdivitt.html
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/13/55/53/83/ufo-mc11.jpg)
The object was yellow - white in color. In the transcript that follows McDivitt is reporting to the Capsule Communicator;
29 40 45 McDivitt: . . . Hawaii . . .
29 52 09 CC: Gemini 4, Guaymas CAP COM
29 52 12 McDivitt: Go ahead. Guaymas. Gemini 4.
29 52 14 CC: Roger. We've got you green, how are you doing up there ?
29 52 17 McDivitt: Fine. I just saw something else up here with me, but just as I was getting close enough to take a good picture the sun got in the way and l lost it.
29 52 26 CC: Roger. We got some flight plan changes for you. Want to stand by to copy ?
29 52 29 McDivitt: Yes. Stand by and let me see if I can find this thing again.
29 52 45 McDivitt: . . . and there are a great number of thunderstorms around at the present time. Lightning is actually lighting up the interior of the spacecraft... activity ...thunderstorms . . .
29 53 35 McDivitt: Okay. ,Go ahead. It doesn't look like I'm going to see him again.
29 57 09 CC: That's affirm --- you still looking at the thing up there ?
29 57 12 McDivitt: No I've lost it. It had big arms sticking out of it, it looked like. I only had it for just a minute. I got a couple of pictures with a movie camera and one with the Hasselblad; but I was in free drift, before I could get the control back I drifted and lost it.
29 57 29 CC: Good show.
McDivitt has publicly denied having seen a aliencraft and states that the released picture was not the object that he saw. The released picture was a light reflection off the copilot's window. McDivitt believes that what he saw was a manmade satellite which was probably not acknowledged for defence security reasons. Unlike many of the astronauts McDivitt has been willing to speak about his incident with the public and press.
Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
Z is right..
nobody reads nothin
What happens a lot when posting is you read the posts in the thread... then go off to find stuff to make your next post and then post without rereading the posts to see what was added since you last read it.
Saw your post but didn't see the picture on the first run through :-[
Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
Z is right..
nobody reads nothin
:(
The problem is that people, when reading text on a screen, read less than and faster than when reading text on paper, they prefer to skim the text, looking for things that catch their attention.
A link is just a link, with nothing to call the attention of the readers.
Maybe if you post it like this:
Photo of the UFO (http://ronrecord.com/astronauts/white-mcdivitt.html)
instead of this:
http://ronrecord.com/astronauts/white-mcdivitt.html
:)
Quote from: zorgon on October 05, 2013, 08:37:29 PM
Thing is this picture.... most likely it's NOT the one he saw, just one someone on the internet used. I posted it because it was interesting, and hopefully we can find the real picture... but if it's out of focus then it won't help us much anyway
I agree. It is not an object but a processing "glitch". I would be interested in the real picture he took.
In fact I'm interested in every single potentially anomalous picture ever taken by any astronaut or robotic camera that ever left the atmosphere. Show me as many as you can all find please. 8)
sorry not anomalous
but copyrighted pic of the first space walk
you must go to the link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/4541791353/in/photostream/
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.?NewerOlderEd White made the United States' first spacewalk on 3 June 1965 during the Gemini 4 mission. The extra-vehicular activity (EVA) started at 19:45 UT (3:45 p.m. EDT) on the third orbit when White opened his hatch and used the hand-held manuevering oxygen-jet gun to push himself out of the capsule. The EVA started over the Pacific Ocean near Hawaii and lasted 23 minutes, ending over the Gulf of Mexico. Initially, White propelled himself to the end of the 8 meter tether and back to the spacecraft three times using the hand-held gun. After the first three minutes the fuel ran out and White manuevered by twisting his body and pulling on the tether. The photographs were taken by commander James McDivitt 19:54 UT (3:54 p.m. EDT) Over New Mexico (NASA photo ID S65-30433)
Credit: NASA
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center is home to the nation's largest organization of combined scientists, engineers and technologists that build spacecraft, instruments and new technology to study the Earth, the sun, our solar system, and the universe.
ok.. just this and i'm done
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc600.htm
The Condon Report: Visual Observations Made by U. S. Astronauts - Unidentified Flying Objects
Franklin E. Roach, The Condon Report
original source | fair use notice
Summary: Section from the Condon Report detailing three sightings of UFOs by astronauts. 'There are three visual sightings made by the astronauts while in orbit which, in the judgment of the writer, have not been adequately explained.'
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There are three visual sightings made by the astronauts while in orbit which, in the judgment of the writer, have not been adequately explained. These are:
Gemini 4, astronaut McDivitt. Observation of a cylindrical object with a protuberance.
Gemini 4, astronaut McDivitt. Observation of a moving bright light at a higher level than the Gemini spacecraft.
Gemini 7, astronaut Borman saw what he referred to as a "bogey" flying in formation with the spacecraft.
1. Gemini 4, cylindrical object with protuberance.
Astronaut McDivitt described seeing at 3:00 CST, on 4 June 1965, a cylindrical object that appeared to have arms sticking out, a description suggesting a spacecraft with an antenna.
I had a conversation with astronaut McDivitt on 3 October 1967, about this sighting and reproduce here my summary of the conversation.
McDivitt saw a cylindrical-shaped object with an antenna-like extension. The appearance was something like the second phase of a Titan (not necessarily implying that that is actually what be saw) It was not possible to estimate its distance but it did have angular extension, that is it did not appear as a "point." It gave a white or silvery appearance as seen against the day sky. The spacecraft was in free drifting flight somewhere over the Pacific Ocean. One still picture was taken plus some movie exposures on black and white film. The impression was not that the object was moving parallel with the spacecraft but rather that it was closing in and that it was nearby. The reaction of the astronaut was that it might be necessary to take action to avoid a collision. The object was lost to view when the sun shone on the window (which was rather dirty). He tried to get the object back into view by maneuvering so the sun was not on the window but was not able to pick it up again.
When they landed , the film was sent from the carrier to land and was not seen again by McDivitt for four days. The NASA photo interpreter had released three or four pictures but McDivitt says that the pictures released were definitely not of the object he had seen. His personal inspection of the film later revealed what he bad seen although the quality of the image and of the blown-up point was such that the object was seen only "hazily" against the sky. But he feels that a positive identification had been made.
It is McDivitt's opinion that the object was probably some unmanned satellite. NORAD made an investigation of possible satellites and came up with the suggestion that the object might have been Pegasus which was 1200 miles away at the time. McDivitt questions this identification.
The NORAD computer facility's determination of the distances from GT-4 to other known objects in space at the time of the astronaut McDivitt's sighting yielded the following tabulation.
A preliminary identification of the object as Pegasus B is suspect. When fully extended Pegasus B has a maximum dimension of 29.3 meters, which corresponds to 1/20 minute of arc at a distance of 2000 km. This is much too small an angular extension for the structure of the craft to be resolved and thus does not agree with the description of "arms sticking out." Later in the mission Pegasus B was at a much more favorable distance (497 km.) from the Gemini 4 spacecraft or four times as close as during, the reported sighting. Astronauts McDivitt and White reported that they were not successful in a serious attempt to visually identify the Pegasus B satellite during this encounter.
The ten objects in addition to Pegasus B in the NORAD list were all at considerably greater distances away from GT-4 than an admittedly crude estimate of 10 miles (16 km.) made by McDivitt, and were of the same or smaller size than Pegasus B. They would not appear to be likely candidates for the object sighted by the astronaut.
2. Gemini 4, moving bright light, higher than spacecraft.
At 50h 58m 03s of elapsed time of GT-4, astronaut McDivitt made the following report.
Just saw a satellite, very high . . . spotted away just like a star on the ground when you see one go by, a long, long ways away. When I saw this satellite go by we were pointed just about directly overhead. It looked like it was going from left to right . . . back toward the west, so it must have been going from south to north.
Although McDivitt referred to this sighting as a satellite, I have included it among the puzzlers because it was higher than the GT-4 and moving in a polar orbit. It was reported as looking like a "star" so we have no indication of an angular extension.
The suggestion at the time of sighting that this was a satellite has not been confirmed, so far as I know, by a definite identification of a known satellite.
Conversations with McDivitt indicate that, on one other occasion, off the coast of China, he saw a "light" that was moving with respect to the star background. No details could be made out by him.
3. Gemini 7, "bogey."
Portions of the transcript (CT 7/6, tape 51, pages 4,5,6) from Gemini 7 are reproduced here. The following conversation took place between the spacecraft and the ground control at Houston and referred to a sighting at the start of the second revolution of the flight:
Spacecraft: Gemini 7 here, Houston how do you read?
Capcom: Loud and clear. 7, go ahead.
Spacecraft: Bogey at 10 o'clock high.
Capcom: This is Houston. Say again 7.
Spacecraft: Said we have a bogey at 10 o'clock high.
Capcom: Roger. Gemini 7., is that the booster or is that an actual sighting'?
Spacecraft: We have several, looks like debris up here. Actual sighting.
Capcom: You have any more information? Estimate distance or size?
Spacecraft: We also have the booster in sight.
Capcom: Understand you also have the booster in sight, Roger.
Spacecraft: Yea, we have a very, very many -- look like hundreds of little particles banked on the left out about 3 to 7 miles.
Capcom: Understand you have many small particles going by on the left. At what distance?
Spacecraft: Oh about -- it looks like a path of the vehicle at 90 degrees.
Capcom: Roger, understand that they are about 3 to 4 miles away.
Spacecraft: They are passed now they are in polar orbit.
Capcom: Roger, understand they were about 3 or 4 miles away.
Spacecraft: That's what it appeared like. That's roger.
Capcom: Were these particles in addition to the booster and the bogey at 10 o'clock high?
Spacecraft: Roger -- Spacecraft (Lovell) I have the booster on my side, it's a brilliant body in the sun, against a black background with trillions of particles on it.
Capcom: Roger. What direction is it from you?
Spacecraft: It's about at my 2 o'clock position. (Lovell)
Capcom: Does that mean that it's ahead of you?
Spacecraft: It's ahead of us at 2 o'clock, slowly tumbling.
The general reconstruction of the sighting based on the above conversation is that in addition to the booster travelling in an orbit similar to that of the spacecraft there was another bright object (bogey) together with many illuminated particles. It might be conjectured that the bogey and particles were fragments from the launching of Gemini 7, but this is impossible if they were travelling in a polar orbit as they appeared to the astronauts to be doing.
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The three unexplained sightings which have been gleaned from a great mass of reports are a challenge to the analyst. Especially puzzling is the first one on the list, the daytime sighting of an object showing details such as arms (antennas?) protruding from a body having a noticeable angular extension. If the NORAD listing of objects near the GT-4 spacecraft at the time of the sighting is complete as it presumably is, we shall have to find a rational explanation or, alternatively, keep it on our list of unidentifieds.
Read more articles on this topic: http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/astronauts.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDChO4--msY
Sorry Sky Otter, I didn't notice the link to the pic. I also did not realise there were about five posts while I was trying to reply but getting side tracked by about four other things LOL :-[
geeze P.. you have to know by now that i ALWAYS add the link... :P
Quote from: sky otter on October 05, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
geeeeeeeze guys.. i posted the pic that was accreddited to him
hands in the air and shaking head as i walk away..
Z is right..
nobody reads nothin
:(
Like I said to Armap in a round about way! ;)
I have never heard of this IMG before, and find it very conductive to find out his role in space. Finding out he was sanctioned to speak on the brady bunch about UFO's is VERY Interesting! ;D
One thing this thread got me thinking about regarding Hamsters on Wheels in Low Earth Orbit is where are is all the spectuacular video footage/image's of meteorite's burning up in in Earth's Atmopshere taken from LEO?
Given that it's not that hard to see a shooting star from one's backyard, along with the fact that the amount of Observation pointed back at earth from LEO is quite frankly abundant... one would think it would be easy to find such footage? :o
Quote from: Somamech on October 06, 2013, 05:55:05 PM
Given that it's not that hard to see a shooting star from one's backyard, along with the fact that the amount of Observation pointed back at earth from LEO is quite frankly abundant... one would think it would be easy to find such footage? :o
We don't see shooting stars during the day (unless it's a big one, like that on in Russia some months ago), so I don't expect to see shooting stars in orbit in "day" images.
Interesting thought though all the same though mate?
There has to be an awesome database of shooting stars from LEO somewhere on this rock :D
I have seen one of these across the sky's of melbourne... freaking amazing sight to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJxFeUk8CDc
This is why I don't expect to see the real footage from said astro ;)
Not allowed
So we still don't have the original pic? or is that white dot the one?
And why is there a 'critter' just behind & to the left of the 'glitch' in the first pic?
Yes, those darn critters, they love publicity ::)
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on October 06, 2013, 08:44:55 PM
And why is there a 'critter' just behind & to the left of the 'glitch' in the first pic?
Behind? ???
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 06, 2013, 04:49:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDChO4--msY
Anybody notice there are sequences in here where it momentarily jumps way up and then back down in a millisecond in one frame? :o
You couldn't possibly do that filming by hand, i.e. operator error by jiggling the camera.
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 07, 2013, 03:56:17 AM
Anybody notice there are sequences in here where it momentarily jumps way up and then back down in a millisecond in one frame? :o
You couldn't possibly do that filming by hand, i.e. operator error by jiggling the camera.
You could and it happens, it depends not only on the way the camera is held but also on the frame rate of the film/video.
Quote from: ArMaP on October 07, 2013, 08:53:26 AM
You could and it happens, it depends not only on the way the camera is held but also on the frame rate of the film/video.
Link to example please.
And something with official bona fides too, not some kid screwin around with his camera tryin to create a hoax, i.e. removing frames in between.
To move a camera up and down between 2 points in a millisecond -back and forth to the same spot- would require reflexes better than Bruce Lee or Data.
I doubt Astronaut McDivitt was experiencing any earthquakes or bumpy roads up there.
I'm also doubting Commander McDivitt suffered any epileptic seizures while on Nasa missions.
CAMERA EQUIPMENT FOR GEMINI 7 AND 6 MISSIONS
16mm Maurer Movie Camera
I. Camera
A. Equipment
1 . two cameras
2. 75mm lens (one camera)
3. 75mm, 25mm, 18mm lens set (second camera)
B. Characteristics
1 . Six frames/second
2. f- 1 I aperture
3. 1/200 second shutter speed
4. 40 lines/mm resolution
II. Film
Kodak S.O. 217 color film
III. Purpose
Weather and Terrain Photography
General Purpose
http://archive.org/stream/gemini7nasamissi00godw/gemini7nasamissi00godw_djvu.txt (http://archive.org/stream/gemini7nasamissi00godw/gemini7nasamissi00godw_djvu.txt)
Even 6 fps could not humanly be filmed accurately back and forth between 2 points.
Do a launch countdown in your head and try to imagine bouncing a camera around between 2 points 6 times in between each 1 second count announcement.
Now of course epilepsy, earthquakes or a bumpy road COULD contribute to such an effect momentarily, but I am not aware of any of those elements coming into play on a Gemini mission.
If you examine the footage frame by frame, you will note there is no pre or post jump blurring of any frames.
Even the jump frame itself is not blurred.
No indication of camera movement evidenced by frame blurring towards it's next appearance in any of the frames.
One would imagine Commander McDivitt was attempting to hold the camera still, realizing the importance of space footage, and it appears he did so.
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 07, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
If you examine the footage frame by frame, you will note there is no pre or post jump blurring of any frames.
Even the jump frame itself is not blurred.
No indication of camera movement evidenced by frame blurring towards it's next appearance in any of the frames.
One would imagine Commander McDivitt was attempting to hold the camera still, realizing the importance of space footage, and it appears he did so.
No need to explain it to us A51, we understand 100%. In the jump frames did you pick out any background stars. They should stay locked. But I heard that some aliens might be installing speed bumps up there to slow us down. lol
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on October 07, 2013, 01:44:51 PM
No need to explain it to us A51, we understand 100%. In the jump frames did you pick out any background stars. They should stay locked. But I heard that some aliens might be installing speed bumps up there to slow us down. lol
Deuem
Not yet D, great idea! 8)
However my first cursory browse shows other craft appearing (1 then 2) much like the ones you commented on in my footage, where you said "it looked like they were trying to bring in another one".
I will post single frames showing this after I capture them.
I knew a processor would see what I was talking about. 8)
All those side to side jumps are pretty crazy too.
eta: It may be a few days before I get the single frames, I am currently trying to put the finishing touches on your new movie, which is quite spectacular I must say.
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 07, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
If you examine the footage frame by frame, you will note there is no pre or post jump blurring of any frames.
Even the jump frame itself is not blurred.
No indication of camera movement evidenced by frame blurring towards it's next appearance in any of the frames.
One would imagine Commander McDivitt was attempting to hold the camera still, realizing the importance of space footage, and it appears he did so.
If you had written that I would have agreed, but you said it was not possible, so I said it is. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on October 07, 2013, 02:05:00 PM
If you had written that I would have agreed, but you said it was not possible, so I said it is. :)
lol, ok how?
Space sickness? ;D ;)
Update -
I have found that if you let the video finish on utoob or pause it during play, you can do a mouse- over on the play bar and see the single frames, including the other craft that appear.
8)
Back to the topic of finding the photo,
he had a -
70mm Hasselblad Camera
I. Camera
A. Equipment
1 . Camera
2. 80mm lens
3. 250mm lens
4. Photo event indicator
5. Ring Sight
6. UV filter
7. Film backs
B. Characteristics
1 . 80mm focal length
2. f2.8 to f22.0 aperture
3. Time exposures and speeds up to 1/500 second
4. Resolution: approximately 125 lines/mm
5. Approximately 1 .5X magnification
II. Film
Kodak S.O. 217, MS Ektachrome
ASA-64 color emulsion on 2.5 mil Estar Polyester base
III. Purpose
Weather and Terrain
General Purpose
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So far I have not been able to locate the Hasselblad picture in question, only screen caps from his video.
Intresting you would find that out. This is the way I watch most YT vids. The play bar loads but the video does not. Too bad I could not get a Hi-res photo from the bar. I would be all set.......
Deuem
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 07, 2013, 02:07:09 PM
lol, ok how?
Space sickness? ;D ;)
I was talking in general, not in that specific situation, as I understood (my mistake) the "You couldn't possibly do that filming by hand" as being generic.
The easiest way of that happening is when you try to point the camera to something and, either because of your movement of because of the movement of other things around you, you hit with one arm (or the arm holding the camera) in something, and you try to compensate the interference.
That has happened to me while taking photos.
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 07, 2013, 02:20:41 PM
I have found that if you let the video finish on utoob or pause it during play, you can do a mouse- over on the play bar and see the single frames, including the other craft that appear.
8)
You can use something like this site (http://en.savefrom.net/1-how-to-download-youtube-video/) to download the video from YouTube and then use Avidemux (http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/) (open source) to watch the video frame by frame or even apply some filters and transformations. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on October 07, 2013, 08:19:47 PM
You can use something like this site (http://en.savefrom.net/1-how-to-download-youtube-video/) to download the video from YouTube
I've been using https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-video-and-audio-dow/?src=api with Firefox for the downloads. I like it. :)
It also extracts the audio track for you into MP3 if you hear a tune you like but just want to listen to it on your MP3 player or whatever and don't want the video. It's cool because it means that pretty much every song you like is easy to get on YouTube without paying. (Sorry music industry :P )
Quote from: Pimander on October 07, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
I've been using https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-video-and-audio-dow/?src=api with Firefox for the downloads. I like it. :)
I avoid things that only work on specific browsers, specially Firefox, which is the worst I use. :P
For format changes I use Format Factory (http://www.pcfreetime.com).
Quote from: ArMaP on October 07, 2013, 09:39:20 PM
specially Firefox, which is the worst I use. :P
I use FFox because I'm used to it and I like the Adblock Edge add-on. Apart from that it is no better than Opera or Chrome. I'm not a fan of Internet Explorer though as I prefer to avoid using Microsoft Apps wherever possible. :P