Adolf Hitler - The greatest story Never told (Full 6 hours Documentary)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgIJSOrKeA
I'd like to watch this, but I have to limit my Internet use. I surf from a smartphone.
Were there any gems, or should I hunker down, spend the cash for the bandwidth, and just "watch the d*** thing"?
Have you actually watched it Z, or do you want one of us to tell you what happens. ::)
Watched a bit :D Its just a collection of old and rarely shown footage... Of historical interest really. Shows why he got as far as he did.
He didn't start out evil :P But was bashed around by his dad, and then not accepted by art colleges twice... became a bum then picked himself up. The stuff in the first WW was interesting...
Hey those excuses work in the USA to explain why people become monster ;)
I want to watch this but can't.
For all us apple people if we could put the link underneath please, then we could all join in. :)
I saved it... as I have many other videos. I guess I need to find a place to upload the files so you can download them and watch them at home with a free flash viewer
Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on November 01, 2013, 09:17:58 PM
I want to watch this but can't.
For all us apple people if we could put the link underneath please, then we could all join in. :)
Oh? You fruit users cannot click on the youtube icon and watch on you tube? Didn't know that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgIJSOrKeA
I have watched the whole video. It definitely held my interest all the way through. I look at this documentary and see that every person (even ones that are the personification of evil) have some good ideas. Look at all the scientists that were brought over in operation paperclip. Von Braun was a Nazi SS Major himself. VI, I think it might be worth the bandwidth to watch it.
Life Magazine Photos of the New Roman Empire :D
(http://timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/19_00086916.jpg)
http://life.time.com/history/adolf-hitler-at-50-color-photos-from-a-despots-birthday-april-1939/#1
He was a genius... he didn't start out evil... his solutions for Germany's recovery were sound and well accepted..
But it is true what they say "Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely"
But as a History study... the images now being made available are fantastic. We admire the Roman Empire and they had evil moments as well.
The amount of effort and pagentry that the NAZI era presented in its hay day are fascinating
(http://www.libertynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/nazi-march.jpg)
Fruit :-X
Hey Z we need to do a thread on hitlers mistakes. That would be interesting.
Il give us 3 for starters.
The eastern front... Huge mistake.
The stg44, ready in 41, not deployed till 43, too late, that alone would have changed the entire war.
And of course the the ME262.
He made a lot of strategic mistakes.
Elvis.
But yes I agree the pagentry was fascinating to say the least.
How easily we were soothed into a reality.
I guess that's how we are led.
We are after all monkeys with big ideas.
We love to think we can dress up and conquer.
Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on November 01, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
Fruit :-X Censorship of me! Why?? :c)
He made a lot of strategic mistakes. Yeah like messing with England...
FB.
Quote from: zorgon on November 01, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
We admire the Roman Empire and they had evil moments as well.
We do? ???
Quote from: ArMaP on November 02, 2013, 12:31:12 AM
We do? ???
We must... because that and the Civil War is about all they teach in schools and Holiwood :D
Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on November 01, 2013, 09:53:51 PM
How easily we were soothed into a reality.
You have to remember that at the time Germany just came out of the Depression and after WWII they were hevily sanctioned so jobs were almost non existent. Then along comes a smooth talker and promises you a job, a car , a no speed limit highway and someone to blame for your suffering :D
QuoteI guess that's how we are led.
We are after all monkeys with big ideas.
We love to think we can dress up and conquer.
People are basically lazy sheep. In the Renaissance World we call them "Good Time Charlies" only there for the free food and fun, then scurry like cockroaches when the work needs doing.
It is very easy for ny leader with a good sounding idea to get followers, whether like me setting up my own small Kingdom, or a cult leader, asocial clu, or a dictator :P It's all the same principal and it has been like that since the first caveman took on being head of the Clan
A perfect example today is the Anonymous mask :D Look how easily people don that without any clue what the real cause is ;)
People tend to forget (Or is it the flowery rewriting of history by gutter scurrying humanists?) that the Whole World, at that time, had the same views as the Nazi's.
England, Spain, Russia, Italy etc. all expelled the Jews and treated them like scum. It all came from Darwin's "Theory of Evolution" and his cousin's "Eugenics" Theories.
Hitler merely learned all the "Knowledge: of the time, coalesced it into a "Viable" plan, and carried it out.
In essence, you can say, "We (The western world) created Hitler", through our inaccurate "Science" and lack of moralistic fortitude.
Frankenstein's monster has arisen again, Germany is once again in power in Europe, what will they do this time?
Well don't know about Germany.... but it sure looks like the Forth Reich is on home soil ;)
Quote from: zorgon on November 02, 2013, 09:16:38 AM
Well don't know about Germany.... but it sure looks like the Forth Reich is on home soil ;)
That is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on November 01, 2013, 09:17:58 PM
I want to watch this but can't.
For all us apple people if we could put the link underneath please, then we could all join in. :)
Apple should be able to run flash. What's the problem?
Quote from: starwarp2000 on November 02, 2013, 07:02:11 AM
England, Spain, Russia, Italy etc. all expelled the Jews and treated them like scum.
Portugal didn't. :)
Quote from: Pimander on November 02, 2013, 02:15:16 PM
Apple should be able to run flash. What's the problem?
I dunno pim, the video will eventually come through but your tapping a blank screen and just hoping. I have to monitor through my old iphone which hasnt been updated. Its the ios update thats the problem.
Quote from: starwarp2000 on November 02, 2013, 07:02:11 AM
England, Spain, Russia, Italy etc. all expelled the Jews and treated them like scum.
Neither did the English.
QuoteThe Allied governments and their leaders have often been accused of failing to respond quickly enough to Nazi persecution of the Jews. In this article, Martin Gilbert focusses on the attempts made by Winston Churchill to respond to the crisis, both in private and as Britain's Prime Minister.
Churchill and the Holocaust By Sir Martin Gilbert (http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/genocide/churchill_holocaust_01.shtml)
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a572/paparumbo/image_zps214480d1.jpg)
Adolf Hitler kisses the hand of the Duchess of Windsor as her husband the Duke looks on, admiringly. The Duke and Duchess of Windsor visited Germany in 1937 before WWII broke out across Europe. They were outspoken supporters of Nazi fascism and suspected of spying for Germany. At the beginning of the war, the Windsors were whisked out of France to safe haven in the Bahamas, where the Duke served out the war years as governor. There he could do Britain little harm - and he was less likely of being kidnapped by the Germans who were reportedly interested in installing him as a puppet king in a conquered Great Britain under German rule.
We are used to seeing the British Royal Family plastered across our television screens, magazine covers and tablet newspapers. As a general rule, the stories are not enlightening and are focussed on things such as Princess Catherine's new earrings and Prince Harry's carnal endeavours in remote tropical nightclubs.
If the media were truly free and unencumbered by 'those from above', facts such as the following would be acknowledged just as freely, instead of coming off as a half-baked compilation of conspiracist rambling.
1. The real name of the Royal Family (before it was changed to Windsor in 1917) is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. They hail from Bavaria, Germany. Queen Victoria's grandfather was the reigning British monarch, George III, the eldest son of The Prince Frederick, Prince of Wales and Augusta of Saxe-Gotha.
Her German-born mother was known as Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. The modern royal family was founded in 1840 when Queen Victoria married Albert of Saxe-Coburg, a Germany duchy.
2. Queen Elizabeth and her husband, Prince Philip, have a great, great grandmother in common: Queen Victoria.
3. Two of Prince Philip's German relatives invited to the royal wedding (William & Kate) on Friday, Philipp zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg and Markgraf Max von Baden, belong to families, who had many members in the Nazi party.
4. It is well documented that Prince Philip's sister, Sophia, was married to Christopher of Hesse-Cassel, an SS colonel who named his eldest son Karl Adolf in Hitler's honour. Indeed, all four of Philip's sisters married high-ranking Nazis. The prospect of the former Nazis and Nazi sympathisers attending his 1947 wedding to the future Queen of England meant he was allowed to invite only two guests.
5. Nazi links emerged in a book recently that featured never before published photographs of Prince Philip aged 16 at the 1937 funeral of his elder sister Cecile, flanked by relatives in SS and Brownshirt uniforms. Another picture shows his youngest sister, Sophia, sitting opposite Hitler at the wedding of Hermann and Emmy Goering. Philip was forced to concede that his family found Hitler's attempts to restore Germany's power and prestige 'attractive' and admitted they had 'inhibitions about the Jews'.
6. Prince Philip also helped start the World Wildlife Fund in 1961 with former Nazi SS Officer Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, who is closely affiliated with the founders of the Bilderberg international power group, and Sir Julian Huxley, Aldous Huxley's brother, who was also the President of the British Eugenics Society.
7. Prince Charles is a key patron at the Optimum Population Trust. Colleagues include Futurist and top Eco-Fascist James Lovelock, who recently called for the ending of freedom in order that an overriding global power made up of "a few people with authority" can oversee the radical stemming of the planet's human population in order to combat climate change.
8.Princess Michael of Kent, is the wife of Queen Elizabeth's first cousin. Princess Michael's father, Baron Gunther von Reibnitz, was exposed in the 1980s as a former Nazi party member and SS officer. She has a history of racist outbursts.
9. Reports state that the Queen mother referred to black people as "nig-nogs" or "blackamoors", opposed all forms of immigration. She backed white minority rule in Rhodesia and lamented that former apartheid leader P.W. Botha got bad press.
10. Before World War 2 began, the Queen Mother was a supporter of making concessions to Hitler and the Nazis, a feeling shared by a large number of British aristocrats who admired the way Hitler was dealing with the Communists.
For some 50 years royal documents were held in vaults at Windsor Castle that detailed the abdicated king Edward VIII's relations with Hitler and the Nazis.They included captured German documents describing the Windsors' meeting with Hitler in 1937 and plans to restore Edward, the Duke of Windsor to the throne if the Nazis won the war. Some of these documents still remain hidden from the public
Yes the Royal family are a bunch of inbred half-Germans. Great isn't it. :o
Not guilty of warcrimes like the last few POTUS, but a bunch of parasites nonetheless.
Pim I'd suggest they are in it up to their tiaras .
Deniability is not an option after all these years.
I'd say any steering committee would need a mandate stamped by those
F€uckers.
Quote from: VillageIdiot on November 01, 2013, 07:35:07 PM
I'd like to watch this, but I have to limit my Internet use. I surf from a smartphone.
Were there any gems, or should I hunker down, spend the cash for the bandwidth, and just "watch the d*** thing"?
The question of 'are there any gems' depends on your level of knowledge about the subject.
My curiosity was raised right off the bat by the use of a woman then a man gushing all over themselves about what a great hero this film maker was. ???
I was then waiting for the other shoe to drop, and it didn't take long.
This is a bit like 'Springtime for Hitler' but not funny.
Pay attention to the soundtrack and what moods are presented during which portrayals.
Interviews that are heavily edited also give obvious clues.
By mid movie you expect to see Adolf flying above Germany in colored tights here to save the day.
A well crafted production sure to bring a tear to the eye for poor misunderstood Adolf by those unable to discern when their leg is being pulled.
Odd that 'the Czechoslovakia incident' is not discussed for a film that supposedly 'presents all the evidence' eh?
Holocaust denial is saved for the grand finale.
To balance this denial, I present another piece of evidence some may be unaware of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0YsjVE1Bmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0YsjVE1Bmg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0YsjVE1Bmg)
Elvis -
Your 'top 10' posted above is most informative. Thanks for that.
It also presents an allegation that the Jews promised to single- handedly deliver the US into joining the war, if their demands were met.
We are then treated to a long slow motion version montage of Private Ryan landing on the beaches of Normandy with tearful violins playing as the soundtrack.
Carefully calculated to make Americans feel 'Look at our our poor boys being slaughtered, all because of those dam Jews!'
::)
Quote from: zorgon on November 02, 2013, 04:14:57 AM
You have to remember that at the time Germany just came out of the Depression and after WWII they were hevily sanctioned so jobs were almost non existent. Then along comes a smooth talker and promises you a job, a car , a no speed limit highway and someone to blame for your suffering :D
People are basically lazy sheep. In the Renaissance World we call them "Good Time Charlies" only there for the free food and fun, then scurry like cockroaches when the work needs doing.
It is very easy for ny leader with a good sounding idea to get followers, whether like me setting up my own small Kingdom, or a cult leader, asocial clu, or a dictator :P It's all the same principal and it has been like that since the first caveman took on being head of the Clan
A perfect example today is the Anonymous mask :D Look how easily people don that without any clue what the real cause is ;)
"Thank God for leaders that men do not think! - Hitler said it himself ;)
I've repeated this quote like a gizzilian times! lol
I am wondering if it would be easier to just make a list of the final results and then work backwards or sdrawkcab. Something like "What is the picture at the end". And then tackle each problem with a step by step plan.
From what I've read so far here and other places
1) No money in circulation
2) No bartering
3) No banks
4) 3 laws, thats it
5) maybe some rule set up by internet and step up idea
6) Free energy in any form. Gas, electric, coal, new forms
7) free water
8 ) no gobermint
9) no elected officials
10) free food
11) free clothes
12) no bills to pay off
13) Live where you want
14) free training
15) free robots to do what you wish
16) homes floating around
17) work if you wish
18) do nothing if you wish
19) get tested for your best dream job
20) have as many kids as you want to
21) own or request anytype or size home for free robots can build it
22) sleep with who ever wants you, not breaking the 3 laws
23) pick up new shoes at a whim [ most women I know would be getting new clothes and shoes and a handbag every day]
24) have the robots re=cycle old/new shoes, clothes and hand bags every day
25) no police?
Ok, I am getting silly now.
But I think that if you could put together at least your top 25 out of thousands and work them backwards, it might lead to your solution.
At least very specific q&a s could be done. ou could then seek the experts out in each area that comes up.
Does it all have to done at once or can somethings be phased in?
Deuem
Quote from: Sinny on November 05, 2013, 03:12:10 PM
"Thank God for leaders that men do not think! - Hitler said it himself ;)
I've repeated this quote like a gizzilian times! lol
And that is true... but you don't have to use knowledge of that fact for evil :D
One can choose to be a Benevolent Dictator :D
Oddly enough I think Castro was one of those for his people :D
Quote from: deuem on November 05, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
I am wondering if it would be easier to just make a list of the final results and then work backwards or sdrawkcab. Something like "What is the picture at the end". And then tackle each problem with a step by step plan.
yes... this is the rule applied to create a sound business plan for a company.
When we worked on our dream to create the Legend... we were shown by a group called SCORE (retired successful business men that help others get started) how to do just that. Let me lay out the thought process and how it related to the lack of money to make it happen. I will skip the steps that led up to the final layout.
End Goal: A Historical Medieval Themed Park, like a giant permanent Renaissance Faire with a cultural, historical and performing arts focus
Projected Cost: $200 Million :o :-[ :P
Okay so... we didn't have $200 Million and we didn't have the skills to build such a park... so using backward planning ... How do we get $200 million?
Research: What is available, seeing Vegas is a show town...
Result: Found one show that was in our genre... a show called CHAVAL. Basically this was a one ring circus with horses and acrobats. So we used this is a model and did the numbers
Well the show was put on in a TENT in the parking lot of the Belagio Casino. The show ran 3 times a day, 1200 seat tent, ticket price :$56.00. The show ran 6 months, sold out daily (mainly because the Casinos here buy 30-50% of the tickets to give as comps)
That translates to $201,600 per day $1,411,200 per week, $5,644,800 per month, $33,868,800 for the run of the show
Not bad for a horse and pony sho in a tent eh?
Cost: Well we did the legwork and costed it out. The organizers where VERY helpful as they saw in our plan a home for their show...
We found a group in France that could put on a similar show, but upscaled about 10 times. (Long story that I will soon expand upon to try again)
So we had a show... Cost to bring here and run for 6 months? $2 million plus a $1 million failure to perform insurance. (cost of that $180.00 a year)
Tent: As luck would have it there was (and still is ) a tent available that is HUGE Just so happens it is in storage in France... It was the original tent use by Cirque du Soleil. Just happens to be my colors :D It is STILL available Price? $500,000 :D Our show would have brought it with them...
(http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slides/ta00/bb4/9b6/cirque-du-soleil-original-tent-montreal.jpg)
Other costs: rounded out, cost of permits generators and support services around $500,000. Casino would provide promotion and other considerations.
Total cost: $3 Million... (add another 500K as a buffer for unexpected costs)
Well we didn't have $3 Million...
So what could we do that could raise $3 Million...
Put on a concert :D
So we found an performer... I cannot name the name at this point as the option is still open. This performer was ummm 'off the page' we convinced this person that they should return. Well I will detail what happened later but the answer was yes if we put it together. Okay so we needed a venue
Found one at the New Orleans Casino a nice stadium. Performer was willing to come from Europe for a percentage of the take and plane tickets for the crew (Casino would provide the rooms and the promotion. Casino also said they they would buy 50% of the tickets...) Can't lose with THAT deal :D That is how things work here ;) Even a BAD show can make money on a short run
Cost if renting the arena, setup and plane fare... $500,000... (that is actually much higher that the actual costs we worked out)
Run the concert for three consecutive weekends? Based on 50% guaranteed sales... proceeds $5 million
There was our $3-4 Million we needed...
But we didn't have $500,000 :(
Well how about a Renaissance faire? We had worked for years with the Vegas one, got it going really well, and knew the money involved. A week long event easily net a few million...
So cost of putting on a week long faire? $35,000 We rented a plot of land for $2,000 for a month... permits etc all paid for, banners printed... and the merchant fees paid up front would cover most of the costs
Well we HAD $35,000
So yeah backwards planning is the way the real world operates
What happened to us? death of three key people in a span of three months from heart attacks, and I found out later the show in France had a disasterous fire. No lives or horse lost, but devasting. They have recovered... we can try again... but death tends to knock the wind out of your sales.
Anyone interested? :D I still have that contract for $200 million :P It was based on us raising only $10 million based on the above laid out plan. $10 million is a mere 5% This is an unheard of venture capital deal... that is how fantastic our plan was
So... who want in?
::)
Serious inquiries only :P I have only one more chance at that if we find the right people
Quote from: deuem on November 05, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
I am wondering if it would be easier to just make a list of the final results and then work backwards or sdrawkcab. Something like "What is the picture at the end". And then tackle each problem with a step by step plan.
From what I've read so far here and other places
1) No money in circulation
2) No bartering
3) No banks
4) 3 laws, thats it
5) maybe some rule set up by internet and step up idea
6) Free energy in any form. Gas, electric, coal, new forms
7) free water
8 ) no gobermint
9) no elected officials
10) free food
11) free clothes
12) no bills to pay off
13) Live where you want
14) free training
15) free robots to do what you wish
16) homes floating around
17) work if you wish
18) do nothing if you wish
19) get tested for your best dream job
20) have as many kids as you want to
21) own or request anytype or size home for free robots can build it
22) sleep with who ever wants you, not breaking the 3 laws
23) pick up new shoes at a whim [ most women I know would be getting new clothes and shoes and a handbag every day]
24) have the robots re=cycle old/new shoes, clothes and hand bags every day
25) no police?
Ok, I am getting silly now.
But I think that if you could put together at least your top 25 out of thousands and work them backwards, it might lead to your solution.
At least very specific q&a s could be done. ou could then seek the experts out in each area that comes up.
Does it all have to done at once or can somethings be phased in?
Deuem
Have You read The End of Entropy? From that piece:
- Money falling into disuse
- Motivation from the heart as opposed to profit
- "Greed" becomes meaningless
- Peace
- Abundance for everyone
- Elimination of corruption
- Power over others supplanted by power over self
- Elimination of GMO's
- Great reduction in violence
- Creative pursuits increased greatly
- A healed planet
- Reduced or eliminated hoarding
- Value placed on human-created art, textiles and products
- Focus on cures, not patentable chemicals that sicken for profit motive
- Human interaction with only those whose company is enjoyable (reduced social friction)
- Robotic stewardship of the planet
- Increased love and compassion
- Greatly reduced stress
- Wondrous works
- "Live and let live" behavior
- Most "laws" become unnecessary
- Corporate power eliminated
- Products made to last – no "planned obsolescence"
- Waste reduced to virtually nil
- Food nutrition increased for all
- One's reputation becomes the "coin" one uses
- Personal responsibility for one's own behavior
- Spiritual growth
- Slavery (outright or wage-slavery) abolished
- Human dignity encouraged
- Increase in charitable behavior
- Self autonomy
- Things are done because someone cares – from raising children to caring for others
I have already worked these back. That is what gave Me the OP plan.
Quote from: deuem on November 05, 2013, 08:20:15 AM
Is Potugal a Country?
I don't know "Potugal", Portugal exists as a country since 1139.
Quote from: deuem on November 05, 2013, 08:20:15 AM
Is Potugal a Country?
Americans! Yes there is a world beyond North America, China, UK and Russia.
Reminded me of this.
Don't blame me, you voted for him.... well he cheated a bit but you get the idea. :P
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a572/paparumbo/catwalkhitlerside_zps144a2cd2.gif)