7 Photos From Mars That Will Make You Believe In Aliens - Or Rocks
Posted: 11/19/2013 4:59 pm EST | Updated: 11/20/2013 12:50 pm EST
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We already know that the spiders from Mars are real -- but has the NASA rover Curiosity picked up real evidence of extraterrestrial life on the Red Planet?
Conspiracy theorists think so. Some of these photos -- taken by the Curiosity over the past year and on other missions to Mars -- look a lot like rocks. Some of them look a lot more peculiar, like the "iguana" found earlier this month. All of them are the stuff of Internet legend, and many believe that NASA is hiding something.
Take a look, and wage alien war on the topic in the comments below.
Lizards!
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Oh, NASA rover Curiosity, you make us so curious. Curious about images like this, which appear to show either camouflaged or fossilized lizards running around on Mars. A blogger caught this image, what do you think?
Rats!
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Discovery
OK, this really does look like some sort of rodent. NASA's Mars rover Curiosity shot a photo of this little guy earlier this year. But after a closer look, and a little common sense, it's probably a rock.
LIZARD RATS!
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The rock rats and rock lizards have begun to breed. It is only a matter of time before they... wait... WAIT, WHAT IS THAT?!
Computer, ENHANCE!
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Oh no. It's too late. The rock rat lizards are already here.
Beautiful Mars Ladies
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The Internet has long been crazy about this photo, snapped by the NASA rover Spirit. She has a terrible choice in dress color though, doesn't she?
Faces
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The conspiracies go back to July 25, 1976, when this shot of the "Face on Mars" was taken by an orbiter. Do you believe yet?
Hearts
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Awwww. These are real photos taken of Mars' surface. But were they designed by extraterrestrials who know the human concept of love? Only the ETs know.
Alien Heads
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Sky,
I like the hearts, silly me.
As to the lizard 'rock' maybe its a fossill?
;)
It is really hard to tell from those picks,
like this: the other day I was looking into the forest
and saw the outline of a face in the trees.
Of course, it is just my imagination, and the way
that shadows cast, and light passes through.
I almost took a pic!
lol..bts..i see faces in everything
take the pic..sometimes you really get surprized
these are things that i have seen on here before.. but really cool they are in a news site..even if it is under wierd news..
sombody must be interested..
Quote from: sky otter on November 21, 2013, 10:19:45 PM
LIZARD RATS!
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This one I didn't have before Dang good one :D
Time I update my Mars Anomalies page
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try again
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Deuem, it says, "Sorry. This person moved or deleted this image."
EDIT to add: Thanks for fixing! LOL!
hey i didn't see it before but in the rat pic with the arrow..what are those lines in the foreground..
looks kinda like a pentacle... :o
and how do you figure scale on these things..that part always messes with my figureing things out
that is from ufo sightings daily dot com...i gotta go see what's what with that..
Quote from: sky otter on November 22, 2013, 04:46:24 AM
hey i didn't see it before but in the rat pic with the arrow..what are those lines in the foreground..
looks kinda like a pentacle... :o
and how do you figure scale on these things..that part always messes with my figureing things out
that is from ufo sightings daily dot com...i gotta go see what's what with that..
If they would post the focus length we could get real close. I now have the focal point size for the 2 mast cameras but I need that one part they left out. Or if the camera man would just put a ruler next to it, that would help.
ok.. i'm still looking at the rat lizards pic.. the one with three panels
and the bottom right panel has lines
about the only thing i can do is blow it up a bit and dang if that doesn't look like a bunch of houses
ok.. buildings
and if you step back from the rat out there.. that could be an even larger building
like i said i have no idea of scale so maybe it is just how i am looking at it
the lines look like a stockade around the buildings that are far apart
doesn't anyone see this stuff...??
I do, sky. ArMaP not withstanding. [grin]
Yes. I see it.
I found a pic today that had elements that suggested a destroyed statue of mega proportions. I got it in TIFF from NASA/JPL (one of the two). Interesting thing is the patina seems to suggest a recent destruction... I'm still pouring over the photo and will bring what I see in to My "Yes, Mars" thread - unless You want Me to add them here.
Amy
i didn't want to get dragged into the 'what do you see' contest..but dang..here i am.. ;D
you put it where ever you think it should go....now i hafta read the mars stuff..i'll never get anything else done..sigh ;)
Quote from: deuem on November 22, 2013, 03:23:40 AM
try again
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;D ;D
Sky, maybe if we knew exactly where it was when it took the photo you could find the area on a map and back calculate the distances and then set photo frames up at those distances and measure the objects. If you get the X/Y location we can try...No matter what it will not be perfect but it will be close enough for gubermint work...
Deuem
Quote from: sky otter on November 23, 2013, 05:01:49 AM
Amy
i didn't want to get dragged into the 'what do you see' contest..but dang..here i am.. ;D
you put it where ever you think it should go....now i hafta read the mars stuff..i'll never get anything else done..sigh ;)
Heh. I know the feeling! I'll put My stuff in the other thread, and You can put Yours here. That way I won't have to think, "Now which thread did I post THAT one to...?"
Quote from: deuem on November 22, 2013, 04:52:56 AM
If they would post the focus length we could get real close. I now have the focal point size for the 2 mast cameras but I need that one part they left out. Or if the camera man would just put a ruler next to it, that would help.
Does this help?
(for the lizard-rat photo)
GROUP = DERIVED_IMAGE_PARMS
MSL:INFINITY_CONSTANT = 999999
MSL:COVER_STATE_FLAG = "N/A"
MSL:MINIMUM_FOCUS_DISTANCE = 17.3 <m>
MSL:BEST_FOCUS_DISTANCE = 32.417 <m>
MSL:MAXIMUM_FOCUS_DISTANCE = 250.9 <m>
MSL:FRAME_RATE = "N/A"
FIXED_INSTRUMENT_AZIMUTH = 159.7273
FIXED_INSTRUMENT_ELEVATION = -0.7978
SOLAR_AZIMUTH = 244.0216
SOLAR_ELEVATION = 26.6077
END_GROUP = DERIVED_IMAGE_PARMSTaken from the LBL file (http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/msl/MSLMST_0003/DATA/EDR/SURFACE/0193/0193MR0010240180202686E01_XXXX.LBL) for that photo.
This is the photo, as sent by Curiosity, after being converted from DAT to IMG and from IMG to PNG. The original was sent as a JPEG, so there's some JPEG compression even in the PNG file.
(Click for full size PNG version. It will probably take some time, it's a 4MB file)
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The "stretched" version.
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wow ArMaP..thanks.. i didn't know where to even start looking
gotta say they just look like rocks now..
figures...
ArMaP. yes that will be a start. Do you know off hand what camera took the shot?
Quote from: deuem on November 24, 2013, 01:06:07 AM
ArMaP. yes that will be a start. Do you know off hand what camera took the shot?
The Right MastCam.
I noticed now that the link I posted for the LBL file was wrong, it should be this one (http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/msl/MSLMST_0003/DATA/EDR/SURFACE/0193/0193MR0010240180202686E01_XXXX.LBL).
Wow a lot of data to take some photos. I was suprised on how quick the shutter speed was. I will need some time with this one to see exactly which values I can use. But it does have the focus points and thats good, So at least there is a fixed range with a center point. A lot of math ahead on this one. Thanks for the homework, it is what i asked for...
I will try to make up a CAD master that I can slide any of the right mast photos into and get values from the focus points to try and determine the size of things in the photo.
Deuem
Seems to me to be a waste of time fooling with the photos ArMaP posted. With a quick scan, I see nothing here that does not look like a rock!
Quote from: rdunk on November 24, 2013, 02:43:30 AM
Seems to me to be a waste of time fooling with the photos ArMaP posted. With a quick scan, I see nothing here that does not look like a rock!
Hi rdunk, I 'm not really sure if you are just pulling ArMaP leg but that photo is the real one and I like the white color one. The lizard-rat is very clear in the photo. This is what I would like to see everyone do, then go on from there. Best photo in hand, the object pointed out and then go in for the workups. No body will get lost or toss a panty fit. The cards are on the table face up. And everyone is playing with the same deck.
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deuem
No lizard, nothing but rock!! There are shadows, and half shadows, and besides that the angles are all messed up. Somehow the pixelation makes some think there is a lizard there, but no such thing. I will see if I can find a better photo of it, maybe from a MOC camera, but don't hold your breath because it may take me a while since I am working on some other photo stuff that someone "thinks" maybe has a real anomaly in it!! Well, maybe I could see a little something there, but it obviously is just a rock! :P :P
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well in that case I will be sorry up front but out of all the photos I have seen so far I would have an easier time believing that this was some kind of Lizard frozen instantly and then fossilized over time and now the dust or sand has blown away to revile it.
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Zorgons snake is in second place.
We even see that this has happened right here on Earth, so to go out on that limb is not as shaky.
Maybe someone can make a better outline. mice and I for drawing are like oil and water.
Deuem
Seems to me to be a waste of time fooling with the photos ArMaP posted. With a quick scan, I see nothing here that does not look like a rock!
geeeeeeeeeeze rdunk..tell us how you really feel..hahahahahahahahah
it ain't rocket science, pal...it's all opinion and conjecture and good exercise too
beating a dead horse..now that's a waste of time,,,bwhahahahahahahah
ok.. so maybe it isn't a lizard or a rat or anything but a wierd rock but how would we know unless we looked.?
i'm decent at topo maps on earth but i have no reference point on somewhere else and i have no idea as to scale.. soooooooooooo to me this is more just a fun mental exercise and i hope i am not insulting you guys who can work to scale with my guesses and opinions
::)
Ok, I got it now, if I turn my monitor off I can't see the lizard.
Someone pullng our leg? This is one of the first objects that everyone except rdunk can see..
This actually looks like it could be something and rdunk leaves the field.. Whazz up with that?
It seems to be made from one object and it has rocks behind it that are a little confussing but it looks like you could walk over there and pick it up. Lizard dinner on Mars...
Deuem
I think rdunk was being humorous, rather playing ArMaP in a sense...
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 24, 2013, 05:50:31 AM
I think rdunk was being humorous, rather playing ArMaP in a sense...
UUUUUUUUUUUUUU got it!! ;) ;) It would take a person with one blind eye, and the other half blind, to not be able to see what looks like some sort of life-form, lizard or whatever a Martian 4-legged thing like this might be called! :))
Quote from: rdunk on November 24, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
UUUUUUUUUUUUUU got it!! ;) ;) It would take a person with one blind eye, and the other half blind, to not be able to see what looks like some sort of life-form, lizard or whatever a Martian 4-legged thing like this might be called! :))
It's a marsupial.
Oh dear sorry :o
Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on November 24, 2013, 06:37:47 AM
It's a marsupial.
Oh dear sorry :o
"mars"-upial
Ha He Ha, I had to go back and re-read it
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Can I turn my monitor back on now? it is hard typing with it off.
Ha ha ;D
Here's the location of the rover on Google Mars.
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Same thing, just closer.
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And this is traverse map they have on the Curiosity Analyst's Notebook (http://an.rsl.wustl.edu/msl/mslbrowser/tab.aspx?t=MP).
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Since Sol 133 Curiosity has been moving on that small area.
...So Curiosity has covered about 70 miles already? Impressive.
Maybe we should add a turbo next time ;D
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on November 25, 2013, 12:05:32 AM
...So Curiosity has covered about 70 miles already? Impressive.
Maybe we should add a turbo next time ;D
No, according to this site (http://curiosityrover.com/tracking/) it has covered 4389 metres. :)
ArMaP, I take it that the numbers are SOL stops. Back to the lizard, what was the sol number and that stop. I want to stay on one photo if we can. Try and lock it up better.
Deuem
I can get to the notebook site but not the map. geez what is up with the white wall workers.
The "lizard" is from Sol 193 (the start of the file name shows in which Sol the photo was taken), but as Curiosity has moved in little steps from place to place there's not a photo with enough resolution to show that.
SKY:
So far, my really rough math is telling me that the Lizard should be around 150 feet away from the camera. That would make it closer to a small dog than a rat as we know them. Many Lizards are that big on Earth so it is not impossible. Lots more work to do. The speed of the shutter was at .07 or 1/15th of a second. Average film is 0.033 or 1/30 of a second So they must be keeping it open to get more light and a deeper focus. Depth of field.
The total focus range is around 765 feet. The minimum was 56 feet but I dont think anything or many things are in that range. I am putting that big rock in the center at 100 feet and working in and out from it. That large rock is in good focus and most likely what the camera set on. A nice target. As you can see, everything that is behind the Lizards ridge is out of foucus and blured so that hill area is over 800 feet away. I think everything you can see clearly is less than 250 feet.
ArMaP, Can you pick up the height of the Mast Right out of that list. It looks like they set it to zero. If at zero We need to know what zero is above ground level to work out the projection angles on the CCD relative to the photo.
Deuem
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Quote from: deuem on November 25, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
So far, my really rough math is telling me that the Lizard should be around 150 feet away from the camera. That would make it closer to a small dog than a rat as we know them. Many Lizards are that big on Earth so it is not impossible. Lots more work to do. The speed of the shutter was at .07 or 1/15th of a second. Average film is 0.033 or 1/30 of a second So they must be keeping it open to get more light and a deeper focus. Depth of field.
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QuoteArMaP, Can you pick up the height of the Mast Right out of that list. It looks like they set it to zero. If at zero We need to know what zero is above ground level to work out the projection angles on the CCD relative to the photo.
I will look into it. :)
Edit: From this page (http://www.spaceflight101.com/msl-science-instruments.html):
...the Mastcam is 1.97m above the wheels. The M-100 provides a resolution of 150µm per pixel at a 2m distance and 7.4cm per pixel at a distance of 1000m. The other Mastcam has a resolution of 450µm/pixel at 2m and 22cm/pixel at 1km.
I hope that helps.
I will look for more. :)