Today at 3:45 pm I was listening to whitely streiber interview charles hall on the tall whites when I had the urge to go to my front window and look out. Looking east I see a big chemtrail being laid and I get my new samsung galaxy gc110 camera with 21x to get this on video.
I turn it on, raise it up and now the chemtrail is a contrail and I see two objects up there. I zoom in and now see two jets stacked in tandum going from east to west.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7Nqv5TUeY
I looked out to the east and saw the chemtrail spreading out and moving south from the polar vortex forming.
At 4:10 pm I look west and wouldn't ya know, there they both come heading east now blowing contrails and stacked and when they got to where lake michigan would be under them, chemtrails started to blow out the back and this line also followed the earlier on south spreading out.
I tried to get this on video again but was downloading the first video to my pc via bluetooth and reached for my sony HD video camera but the batteries were dead so then got the other sony HD 1080 camera but by then the show was way over and out a sight.
I did take a snap shot of the two chemtrails south of me previously laid down by those twin jets stacked up
Interesting, regardless of the type of trail they were living leaving. :)
Is it me or does the second aeroplane look wider than normal?
Edit: spelling. ;D
What *I* find interesting is the fact that the first plane is leaving NO TRAIL. Only the second one. If this was "contrail," BOTH would be leaving contrails. Thus I must conclude the second IS spraying SOMETHING.
And I would place high probability on aluminum, barium, strontium and titanium particulates. Maybe some biologics.
They were stacked on top one another and you have to look real close and you can see they both were blowing contrails. When I first seen them they were blowing a large bellowing chemtrail over lake michigan. I seen it was a big one so had to get the camera. I didn't know it was two jets on top of one another till I got the camera zoomed in.
They cut the chemtrail off as they must of hit the shoreline on lake michigan because the contrail stopped not to far behind them when over head. The chemtrail they laid down over michaigan stayed up there and drifted south.
(http://s14.postimg.org/u0kd6r1kx/1_11.jpg)
I don't know foe sure, but it maybe two contrails
Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 11:31:45 PM
They cut the chemtrail off as they must of hit the shoreline on lake michigan because the contrail stopped not to far behind them when over head. The chemtrail they laid down over michaigan stayed up there and drifted south.
Where they leaving a chemtrail and a contrail? ???
This is the photo I snapped out the back window of the two chemtrails they dropped. The one lower bottom in the trees is from when they were flying west and the top one was when they came back flying east.
These were the chemtrails from over lake michigan drifting south. After they came over land they turned off the chemtrails and went to contrails cause the contrails dissipated not far behind the jets.
(http://s17.postimg.org/j4q6fjain/1_111.jpg)
Almost looks like planes refueling.
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/planerefueling_zps0c0ed124.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/planerefueling_zps0c0ed124.jpg.html)
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/planerefueling2_zps6b845351.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/planerefueling2_zps6b845351.jpg.html)
Quote from: micjer on January 22, 2014, 12:38:52 AM
Almost looks like planes refueling.
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/planerefueling_zps0c0ed124.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/planerefueling_zps0c0ed124.jpg.html)
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/planerefueling2_zps6b845351.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/planerefueling2_zps6b845351.jpg.html)
Plausible
I looked it up and seen the same flight arrangement as when refueling, BUT!
When they flew west bound from over lake michigan, they were blowing a very thick chemtrail till they hit land and then went to a contrail that dissipated not far behind them. Seeing that thick chemtrail is what made me go for my camera but as they flew over head, the trail dissipated quickly behind them.
Than, they turned around and came back straight east with contrails dissipating right behind till they reached where the lake began and the trails became very thick and remained to blow south
The fact that they turned around speaks volumes. Not commercial flights that is for sure.
Flying that close together is very odd. Glad you had camera handy.
I live east of you, on the east side of Lake Huron. There are times when our sky is covered with chemtrails. Sometimes there are planes, but many times the trails have been laid out many miles to the west (Lake Michigan) and drift our way. Those same days planes (commercial) fly over, heading to Toronto, and there is absolutely nothing behind them.
We were getting lake effect snow here today, so I can't say whether those trails drifted this way or not. Likely did.
Quote from: Gigas on January 22, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
When they flew west bound from over lake michigan, they were blowing a very thick chemtrail till they hit land and then went to a contrail that dissipated not far behind them. Seeing that thick chemtrail is what made me go for my camera but as they flew over head, the trail dissipated quickly behind them.
Than, they turned around and came back straight east with contrails dissipating right behind till they reached where the lake began and the trails became very thick and remained to blow south
Contrails are created when there's enough humidity in the air, couldn't the air above the lake be more humid and allow more consistent contrails?
Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 11:37:39 PM
(http://s14.postimg.org/u0kd6r1kx/1_11.jpg)
I don't know foe sure, but it maybe two contrails
My clue that only one plane is dumping is that the trails start immediately behind the second plane's wings, and all match up with that one. The very slight stuff behind the first is likely a true contrail.
If these were normal "contrails" seems both planes would
be leaving them?
Remember, there are fuel additives that are patented
for geoengineering, so they make look like ordinary
contrails, but in fact could be full of particles that
will spread out and linger.
Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 11:52:52 PM
(http://s17.postimg.org/j4q6fjain/1_111.jpg)
Gigas,
Great picture! This looks near identical to many other
pictures snapped after a particulate laden "contrail"
(chemtrail) after the aircraft passes through. I have seen
this over and again on the web, and a few times have actually
known the person taking the pics, not to mention I have
seen this very same thing.
They are up to something.
Theyre mixing two things in the air together, which are dangerous to keep on the same plane...but clearly safe for them to spray on the nice folks in Michigan...experimental hybrid chemtrails??
Quote from: burntheships on January 22, 2014, 03:22:17 AM
If these were normal "contrails" seems both planes would be leaving them?
Maybe, maybe not, as the contrails are a result of the humidity and of aerodynamics, and having a second aeroplane close to the first changes both plane's aerodynamics.
If they weren't refuelling - what would another plausible reason be for flying together?
If there isn't one - My bets deffo hybrid chemtrails!! ;D
Anyone here followed the line of study in regards to crystal and nano particles being sprayed?
I've seen intensive studies into the nano side - Less in regards to so called 'crystal viruses'.. I'd like to see some work on that...
Quote from: Sinny on January 22, 2014, 01:14:14 PM
If they weren't refuelling - what would another plausible reason be for flying together?
If there isn't one - My bets deffo hybrid chemtrails!! ;D
Anyone here followed the line of study in regards to crystal and nano particles being sprayed?
I've seen intensive studies into the nano side - Less in regards to so called 'crystal viruses'.. I'd like to see some work on that...
So then, you agree?
It is not refueling,the positioning and size differences of the two aircraft is not right for such an operation....in standard methodology....two chemicals mixed for our breathing pleasure.
or....one alive, and the other its foodsource?
Quote from: Littleenki on January 22, 2014, 03:56:01 PM
So then, you agree?
I tend to agree, I remember 2010/11 and seeing these planes spray zig zags allllll day long across the summer time, in clear blue skies, then I recall seeing the 'contrails' spread and create the layer of clouds that we
did get later in the evening.
Quick search tells anyone that's not just water vapor up there..coming down here ::)
Even if it were 'innocent' cloud seeding.. I don't trust em far as I can throw them..especially from looking at our so called 'pesticides'..Remember the whole Asbestos scenario?..The list is endless...
We should never be discouraged from seeking information we should be able to legally (and morally) obtain - anyone who promotes 'accepting' anything at face value is either brain dead ...or yea, brain dead following orders.
If they are cloud seeding for precipitation, they are flying over the wrong part of the country for doing any good.
They need to get their asses out to California where it is the driest in decades. We friggin don't need more snow in the east! Thank you very much.
I have watched planes fly over and some days no trails at all. Next day some trails dissapppear in 5 to 10 minutes, while the next planes' exhaust lingers for hours and drifts off to the east, leaving our beautiful blue sky polluted with a cobweb look. No contrails would do that.
Its possible to be a humidity over water thing forming the fluffy chemtrail look, but, we have had so many below zero days and nights I think michigan is froze over as is green bay.
I notice in summer clouds will roll in from the west and stop at the michigan shoreline and just hang there. I've seen clouds roll in off michigan westerdly and stop at the shoreline and hang there also. Thats summer time when heat, humidity and cool air form a wall between each other.
It was zero degrees down here on the ground when the jets came over so you know humidity has been so low its almost impossible to conclude humidity had anything to do with the trails over the lake and land. Not saying its impossible, just doesn't fit.
I have video of jets going over with long long long trails that billow out as time flies. BTW, forgot to mention, as those two jets came across the sky going west, another jet was going east and that one had a short contrail and went out over the lake and didn't billow its contrail like these other two jets.
I was looking at military jets with google and think perhaps the lead jet was a 707 and the following was a lockheed c 141 starlifter. I maybe wrong cause it will take someone like John Lear to look at and remark.
I could see the lead jet was a wing under fuselage and the following jet was a wing over fuselage with a T tail and had two rather large winglets on its wing tips.
Edit to ad:
Maybe not the starlifter cause I didn't see any with winglets unless they fitted them later. I got some pictures and video of a large refueler jet thats been buzzing around here for the last couple of summers flying real low over my house and I seen it parked at the airport 4 miles east of me. Its military of some sort. I have to dig the images out.
Quote from: Amaterasu on January 21, 2014, 11:27:42 PM
What *I* find interesting is the fact that the first plane is leaving NO TRAIL.
Incorrect. The first plane's contrail is the top lines separated by a gap and then the second plane's contrails. You do not see them directly behind the first plane until AFTER they pass beyond the second plane due to vortex air currents that would break them up. (wing vortex currents can rip the wings off a Cesna :D That is lesson one when taking flight class at a major airport)
QuoteOnly the second one. If this was "contrail," BOTH would be leaving contrails. Thus I must conclude the second IS spraying SOMETHING.
Erroneous conclusion based on not having all the facts :P
This looks like a standard military refueling operation of a high flying bomber, like this one
(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1310/1341131004_d14fe55fd6.jpg)
(http://www.hyperscale.com/images/b52refuelling_1.jpg)
And I would place high probability on aluminum, barium, strontium and titanium particulates. Maybe some biologics.
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Quote from: Gigas on January 21, 2014, 11:37:39 PM
(http://s14.postimg.org/u0kd6r1kx/1_11.jpg)
I don't know foe sure, but it maybe two contrails
Saved me doing it :D Yes you can see the two contrails and in that image capture I can see I picked the right bomber... :D
Quote from: burntheships on January 22, 2014, 03:22:17 AM
Remember, there are fuel additives that are patented
for geoengineering, so they make look like ordinary
contrails, but in fact could be full of particles that
will spread out and linger.
Military planes have so much crap in their fuel that they are true chemtrails even when they are just normal contrails :P
The DEF STAN 91-91 (UK) and ASTM D1655 (international) specifications allow for certain additives to be added to jet fuel, including:[11][12]
Antioxidants to prevent gumming, usually based on alkylated phenols, e.g., AO-30, AO-31, or AO-37;
Antistatic agents, to dissipate static electricity and prevent sparking; Stadis 450, with dinonylnaphthylsulfonic acid (DINNSA) as a component, is an example
Corrosion inhibitors, e.g., DCI-4A used for civilian and military fuels, and DCI-6A used for military fuels;
Fuel system icing inhibitor (FSII) agents, e.g., Di-EGME; FSII is often mixed at the point-of-sale so that users with heated fuel lines do not have to pay the extra expense.
Biocides are to remediate microbial (i.e., bacterial and fungal) growth present in aircraft fuel systems. Currently, two biocides are approved for use by most aircraft and turbine engine original equipment manufacturers (OEMs); Kathon FP1.5 Microbiocide and Biobor JF.[13]
Metal deactivator can be added to remediate the deleterious effects of trace metals on the thermal stability of the fuel. The one allowable additive is N,N'-disalicylidene 1,2-propanediamine.
Quote from: zorgon on January 22, 2014, 08:15:31 PM
Saved me doing it :D Yes you can see the two contrails and in that image capture I can see I picked the right bomber... :D
I'm thinking that up front jet is a 707 and the following jet is a transport of some kind with wing over fuselage with winglets on either wing tip and, a T tail.
What jumbo jet has winglets and a T tail with four forward protruding engines.
I'm seeing something like this model as the trailing jet. Only, the fuselage seems to be to thick thin for it to be a C17 Globemaster III.
(http://s30.postimg.org/vpgmi6v8x/C_17_Globemaster_III_2.jpg)
Edit:
Strike through
Gigas, looks to me to be a KC 135 strato tanker and a B52 getting a drink; as for them flying west and then east, sounds like re-fueling practice for the pilots...
just my .02 centavos...
seeker