You don't see this to often. two jets stacked up blowing contrails/chemtrails

[ArMaP]

If these were normal "contrails" seems both planes would be leaving them?

Maybe, maybe not, as the contrails are a result of the humidity and of aerodynamics, and having a second aeroplane close to the first changes both plane's aerodynamics.

[Sinny]

If they weren't refuelling  - what would another plausible reason be for flying together?

If there isn't one - My bets deffo hybrid chemtrails!! 

Anyone here followed the line of study in regards to crystal and nano particles being sprayed?

I've seen intensive studies into the nano side - Less in regards to so called 'crystal viruses'.. I'd like to see some work on that...

[Littleenki]

If they weren't refuelling  - what would another plausible reason be for flying together?

If there isn't one - My bets deffo hybrid chemtrails!! 

Anyone here followed the line of study in regards to crystal and nano particles being sprayed?

I've seen intensive studies into the nano side - Less in regards to so called 'crystal viruses'.. I'd like to see some work on that...

So then, you agree?

It is not refueling,the positioning and size differences of the two aircraft is not right for such an operation....in standard methodology....two chemicals mixed for our breathing pleasure.

or....one alive, and the other its foodsource?

[Sinny]

So then, you agree?

I tend to agree, I remember 2010/11 and seeing these planes spray zig zags allllll day long across the summer time, in clear blue skies, then I recall seeing the 'contrails' spread and create the layer of clouds that we did get later in the evening.

Quick search tells anyone that's not just water vapor up there..coming down here 

Even if it were 'innocent' cloud seeding.. I don't trust em far as I can throw them..especially from looking at our so called 'pesticides'..Remember the whole Asbestos scenario?..The list is endless...

We should never be discouraged from seeking information we should be able to legally (and  morally) obtain - anyone who promotes 'accepting' anything at face value is either brain dead ...or yea, brain dead following orders.

[micjer]

If they are cloud seeding for precipitation, they are flying over the wrong part of the country for doing any good.

They need to get their asses out to California where it is the driest in decades.  We friggin don't need more snow in the east!  Thank you very much.

I have watched planes fly over and some days no trails at all.  Next day some trails dissapppear in 5 to 10 minutes, while the next planes' exhaust lingers for hours and drifts off to the east, leaving our beautiful blue sky polluted with a cobweb look.  No contrails would do that.

[Gigas]

Its possible to be a humidity over water thing forming the fluffy chemtrail look, but, we have had so many below zero days and nights I think michigan is froze over as is green bay.

I notice in summer clouds will roll in from the west and stop at the michigan shoreline and just hang there. I've seen clouds roll in off michigan westerdly and stop at the shoreline and hang there also. Thats summer time when heat, humidity and cool air form a wall between each other.

It was zero degrees down here on the ground when the jets came over so you know humidity has been so low its almost impossible to conclude humidity had anything to do with the trails over the lake and land. Not saying its impossible, just doesn't fit.

I have video of jets going over with long long long trails that billow out as time flies. BTW, forgot to mention, as those two jets came across the sky going west, another jet was going east and that one had a short contrail and went out over the lake and didn't billow its contrail like these other two jets.

I was looking at military jets with google and think perhaps the lead jet was a 707 and the following was a lockheed c 141 starlifter. I maybe wrong cause it will take someone like John Lear to look at and remark.

I could see the lead jet was a wing under fuselage and the following jet was a wing over fuselage with a T tail and had two rather large winglets on its wing tips.

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Maybe not the starlifter cause I didn't see any with winglets unless they fitted them later. I got some pictures and video of a large refueler jet thats been buzzing around here for the last couple of summers flying real low over my house and I seen it parked at the airport 4 miles east of me. Its military of some sort. I have to dig the images out.

[zorgon]

What *I* find interesting is the fact that the first plane is leaving NO TRAIL.

Incorrect. The first plane's contrail is the top lines separated by a gap and then the second plane's contrails. You do not see them directly behind the first plane until AFTER they pass beyond the second plane due to vortex air currents that would break them up. (wing vortex currents can rip the wings off a Cesna That is lesson one when taking flight class at a major airport)

Only the second one.  If this was "contrail," BOTH would be leaving contrails.  Thus I must conclude the second IS spraying SOMETHING.

Erroneous conclusion based on not having all the facts

This looks like a standard military refueling operation of a high flying bomber, like this one





And I would place high probability on aluminum, barium, strontium and titanium particulates.  Maybe some biologics.
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[zorgon]

I don't know foe sure, but it maybe two contrails

Saved me doing it   Yes you can see the two contrails and in that image capture I can see I picked the right bomber...

[zorgon]

Remember, there are fuel additives that are patented
for geoengineering, so they make look like ordinary
contrails, but in fact could be full of particles that
will spread out and linger.

Military planes have so much crap in their fuel that they are true chemtrails even when they are just normal contrails

The DEF STAN 91-91 (UK) and ASTM D1655 (international) specifications allow for certain additives to be added to jet fuel, including:[11][12]
Antioxidants to prevent gumming, usually based on alkylated phenols, e.g., AO-30, AO-31, or AO-37;
Antistatic agents, to dissipate static electricity and prevent sparking; Stadis 450, with dinonylnaphthylsulfonic acid (DINNSA) as a component, is an example
Corrosion inhibitors, e.g., DCI-4A used for civilian and military fuels, and DCI-6A used for military fuels;
Fuel system icing inhibitor (FSII) agents, e.g., Di-EGME; FSII is often mixed at the point-of-sale so that users with heated fuel lines do not have to pay the extra expense.
Biocides are to remediate microbial (i.e., bacterial and fungal) growth present in aircraft fuel systems. Currently, two biocides are approved for use by most aircraft and turbine engine original equipment manufacturers (OEMs); Kathon FP1.5 Microbiocide and Biobor JF.[13]
Metal deactivator can be added to remediate the deleterious effects of trace metals on the thermal stability of the fuel. The one allowable additive is N,N'-disalicylidene 1,2-propanediamine.

[Gigas]

Saved me doing it   Yes you can see the two contrails and in that image capture I can see I picked the right bomber...

I'm thinking that up front jet is a 707 and the following jet is a transport of some kind with wing over fuselage with winglets on either wing tip and, a T tail.

What jumbo jet has winglets and a T tail with four forward protruding engines.

[Gigas]

I'm seeing something like this model as the trailing jet. Only, the fuselage seems to be to thick thin for it to be a C17 Globemaster III.





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Strike through

[The Seeker]

Gigas, looks to me to be a KC 135 strato tanker and a B52 getting a drink; as for them  flying west and then east, sounds like re-fueling practice for the pilots...


just my .02 centavos...


seeker