http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30710883
Gunmen have attacked the Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 12 people and injuring seven in an apparent Islamist attack.
Three masked attackers opened fire with assault rifles in the office and exchanged shots with police in the street outside before escaping by car.
The gunmen shouted "we have avenged the Prophet Muhammad", witnesses say.
Let's get the false flag thinking caps on, kids. Name of the organisation, name of the gunmen, possible links to Western governments/Operation Gladio etc.
Simply continuing Islamic terrorism that slaps all of common sense in the face, IMO. All of these such are not "separate events", but are part of the Islamic plan to take the world for allah. If allah were a real god, he could do his own avenging.
It is so sad that even some humans are so degenerate to do something like this, and like all of the other similar stuff we have see happening over the past several years.
Again IMO - there will be no stopping of this, because of of its basis. Thus, most of the people of this world will die, if there is not Devine intervention at some point - which is what I am expecting as it is relative to what is prophesied!!
Quote from: rdunk on January 07, 2015, 05:19:08 PM
Simply continuing Islamic terrorism that slaps all of common sense in the face, IMO. All of these such are not "separate events", but are part of the Islamic plan to take the world for allah.
Common sense would be if any religion practice were not allowed. You can do it at home, but only if it not bother your neighbor's. I mean KEEP IT QUIET.
QuoteIf allah were a real god, he could do his own avenging.
Is there a real god anyways? All I see are his dogs doing dogs**t as an excuse to obtain power above other people with the objective to have more control.
QuoteIt is so sad that even some humans are so degenerate to do something like this, and like all of the other similar stuff we have see happening over the past several years.
And if all this was to a legit cause, but no! they need fight each other because some people are so radicals that they cant take a joke as it is. They are so delusional about their beliefs that they have to kill others to proof it real. Really sad lives indeed.
QuoteAgain IMO - there will be no stopping of this, because of of its basis. Thus, most of the people of this world will die,
In fact we all gonna die. Its a fact of life. You live... you have to die.
Quoteif there is not Devine intervention at some point - which is what I am expecting as it is relative to what is prophesied!!
Dont hold your breath.
If you want something to be done, believe in yourself. (and when i say yourself, i mean humanity)
How many people died because all religion beliefs along the history?
Quote from: rdunk on January 07, 2015, 05:19:08 PM
Simply continuing Islamic terrorism that slaps all of common sense in the face, IMO. All of these such are not "separate events", but are part of the Islamic plan to take the world for allah.
Yes, but why are they doing it
now, rdunk? That, as far as I am concerned, is the question. Although there were still some minor disturbances, relatively speaking, before 1990 the Muslims had been quiet since the end of the Ottoman Empire. It makes no sense to me that we would get a comparitive lull of nearly a century, for them to start up again now.
Reminds me of what Albert Pike wrote, that the Masons would supposedly signal the Arab sheiks at the appointed time.
What we need is some of these guys!
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/knightstemplar_zps5489a544.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/knightstemplar_zps5489a544.jpg.html)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 07, 2015, 10:54:14 PM
What we need is some of these guys!
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/knightstemplar_zps5489a544.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/knightstemplar_zps5489a544.jpg.html)
No, what we need is truth.
Yes we do! Truth doesn't work with fanatics. You know this ArMaP!
Truth?
How do you apply truth to religion and religious fanatics?
The Crusaders didn't do so well last time :P
This attack is over Satire They get mad when you post cartoons making jokes about Allah
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 07, 2015, 11:52:40 PM
Yes we do! Truth doesn't work with fanatics. You know this ArMaP!
The lack of truth is what creates the fanatics, when they only tell people the things they want so they can manipulate them.
Quote from: zorgon on January 08, 2015, 12:02:36 AM
Truth?
How do you apply truth to religion and religious fanatics?
See above.
QuoteThe Crusaders didn't do so well last time :P
The Crusaders acted mostly in the way most people accuse the US and other Western countries of acting, attacking anyone in the area while making money from it, that's how the initially poor military orders ended up having more money than certain kingdoms.
QuoteThis attack is over Satire They get mad when you post cartoons making jokes about Allah
I am against censorship of any kind, but when you keep attacking (with satire or whatever) someone's religion and you know that that someone is a fanatic, what do you expect, flowers? Or do all small newspapers in France have two police officers at the door?
They have been trolling the fanatics, something like this from some idiots would be expected.
What I find interesting is that today, while eating my breakfast, I saw on Euronews (an European news channel based in France) a news piece (http://www.euronews.com/2015/01/07/author-defends-his-novel-about-a-muslim-run-france-after-critics-condemn-it-as-/) about a new book that was published today in France called "Submission", in which France has a Muslim president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiSXwNS2gI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiSXwNS2gI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiSXwNS2gI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqZ4YPdnyU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqZ4YPdnyU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqZ4YPdnyU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3uq1ZLTqY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3uq1ZLTqY8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3uq1ZLTqY8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcGg9nl8wS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcGg9nl8wS0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcGg9nl8wS0)
Quote from: zorgon on January 08, 2015, 12:02:36 AM
The Crusaders didn't do so well last time :P
I still say we need more of these guys....
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/7428836_f520_zps6b233cbe.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/7428836_f520_zps6b233cbe.jpg.html)
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/Templar_Knights_zps9c54a49c.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/Templar_Knights_zps9c54a49c.jpg.html)
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/The-Knights-Templar-1_zps51a572a5.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/The-Knights-Templar-1_zps51a572a5.jpg.html)
I guess it just depends on what side of the religious fanatical fence your sitting on. I would call in the robot overlords to just intolerantly enslave us all and get it over with. :P
Can anyone explain THIS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KuGQcAcCig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KuGQcAcCig
Quote from: zorgon on January 08, 2015, 04:46:21 AM
Can anyone explain THIS?
(http://i.imgur.com/pBUOEQw.gif)
I'm no gun expert but I think he missed the guy, looks like the bullet hit the sidewalk.
The trail of blood we see in the pic below must be because the shot in the stomach and probably the cause of his death?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6wTnfaIcAEVCHb.jpg:large)
The cop killed In Paris attacks, was muslim btw.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6ybLwXCQAAUU_V.jpg)
QuotePolice have named 42-year-old Muslim policeman Ahmed Merabet as one of the two officers killed in Wednesday's attack on a satirical magazine in Paris. He is survived by his wife.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/07/ahmed-merabet-cop-killed-in-paris-attacks-was-muslim/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/07/ahmed-merabet-cop-killed-in-paris-attacks-was-muslim/)
Political subversion and moral corruption. It's a shame, really...
Quote from: rdunk on January 07, 2015, 05:19:08 PM
Devine intervention at some point - which is what I am expecting as it is relative to what is prophesied!!
Sorry, i forgot to mention... the christian god may be too busy to pay attention about silly prophecies.
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I really hope the holly spirit is using at least a condom in that maneuver ;D
Ps. Should i be scared about some crazy delusional christian, shooting me in the head because this post?
Quote from: RUSSO on January 08, 2015, 06:00:26 AM
The trail of blood we see in the pic below must be because the shot in the stomach and probably the cause of his death?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6wTnfaIcAEVCHb.jpg:large)
Luckily, I only witnessed a murder in my life, a man that was shot by his wife with a shotgun shot to the stomach, and there was so much blood (he died in less than the 5 minutes the ambulance took to reach him) that the firemen had to wash it away but the smell remained for two days.
QuoteThe cop killed In Paris attacks, was muslim btw.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6ybLwXCQAAUU_V.jpg)
That's the problem with these blind actions, the Crusaders didn't have any problems killing the Christians and Jews that lived in the Muslim cities they attacked. And yes, at the time Christians, Muslims and Jews lived in the same cities both in the Muslim and the Christian areas.
I can't believe that our Peggy members are involved in non-critical discussions of Propagated Bullshiz.
Because adding to the Propaganda is a noble cause ::)
I'm staying out of this. The /popcorn in this thread is too delicious. ::)
Quote from: RUSSO on January 08, 2015, 09:32:29 AM
Sorry, i forgot to mention... the christian god may be too busy to pay attention about silly prophecies.
I really hope the holly spirit is using at least a condom in that maneuver ;D
Ps. Should i be scared about some crazy delusional christian, shooting me in the head because this post?
No Russo, the "world" is lost, and such a post displays it, but, God loves you too.....and a Christian/Christians would/should be praying for you, that you might see the reality of what all of life is about. :)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 08, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/johntfountain/The-Knights-Templar-1_zps51a572a5.jpg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/johntfountain/media/The-Knights-Templar-1_zps51a572a5.jpg.html)
The military option is not going to work against Islam. The main reason why, is because the objective of such a war, would need to be the literal and complete annihilation of the religion; and unfortunately, that is not feasible. There are simply far too many of them. If I have any objection to Charlemagne's actions, it is primarily that he wasn't sufficiently thorough.
As I've said before, the policy I advocate, is the encouragement of peaceful, voluntary apostasy. We need to persuade Muslims to recognise why the religion is morally and rationally indefensible, to the point where they are willing to give it up themselves.
Quote from: rdunk on January 08, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
No Russo, the "world" is lost, and such a post displays it, but, God loves you too.....and a Christian/Christians would/should be praying for you, that you might see the reality of what all of life is about. :)
Well... the world is only "lost" because there is people in every religion(among other big things) that, instead of pray, being benevolent to others, decide to kill, monetize and control their fellow humans.
And all that starts with intolerance, manifested many times first, with hate speeches.
If religion was a legit thing, people should not be worried about what their neighbors believe. They should show respect about every creature on earth. They should be paying attention about themselves so maybe they would see how ridiculous the whole thing is.
The great energy religious fanatics have to spare, seems they lack in use their brains, unfortunately.
And dear rdunk. I will not even start speak about what i think our existence experience is because, one thing i learned long time ago is that discuss life and reality with religiously indoctrinated people is a really big waste of time.
:)
Quote from: petrus4 on January 08, 2015, 10:58:25 PM
We need to persuade Muslims to recognise why the religion is morally and rationally indefensible, to the point where they are willing to give it up themselves.
Many Muslim women know this already, as many are treated in the religion
little better than "infidels" themselves. Removed from the barbaric over reach
of Islamic Extremeism, they find themselves acknowledged as human being
rather than a mans possession. Of course, this most often requires them
to leave the ME, and even then they can be hunted down like "infidels".
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/d64876e992954db5d0c2bc3194295a6a/tumblr_nhtnwsfz8Q1ru5h8co1_500.gif)
Quote from: petrus4 on January 08, 2015, 10:58:25 PM
We need to persuade Muslims to recognise why the religion is morally and rationally indefensible, to the point where they are willing to give it up themselves.
"The" religion? Which one, Islam? Why is it "morally and rationally indefensible"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEvlKKm6og
Got a video here, which more or less confirms Charlie Hebdo as an outright hoax. They're getting very sloppy.
Quote from: Sinny on January 08, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
I can't believe that our Peggy members are involved in non-critical discussions of Propagated Bullshiz.
Because adding to the Propaganda is a noble cause ::)
I guess some find it more interesting to seek conspiracy in specific shot order and ballistics to exactly how a cop was executed on a sidewalk.....than look at the big issues of why a few people choose to go attack a piece of a major world city like this. A tiny piece..but still?
Did they truly believe this could be a survivable thing? Did they expect public support or at least general Muslim support? Did they do it thinking they'd find Muslim indifference as so often happened in the past?
I can't fathom the 'after' these people imagined they would find, following this murder spree. I guess we clearly have a few people doing this and so conspiracy comes by literal definition. How far beyond the shooters? That's fair to ask too, IMO. Were these wanna-be hangers on to terrorist movements or more? (I think they were rather pathetic losers, lashing out for a cause which wasn't even theirs, personally...but we all have opinions?)
Quote from: Sinny on January 08, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
I can't believe that our Peggy members are involved in non-critical discussions of Propagated Bullshiz.
The world is about to explode over this so yeah even Peggy Peeps are interested :P
QuoteBecause adding to the Propaganda is a noble cause ::)
Exposing it as Propagand however IS a noble cause...
And sometime frustration allows us to LAUGH when Allah the Great makes his wishes known :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dstGdAHGL30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dstGdAHGL30
I think I need to add this to the Instant Karma thread :P
Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on January 11, 2015, 06:09:23 PM
I can't fathom the 'after' these people imagined they would find, following this murder spree. I guess we clearly have a few people doing this and so conspiracy comes by literal definition. How far beyond the shooters? That's fair to ask too, IMO. Were these wanna-be hangers on to terrorist movements or more? (I think they were rather pathetic losers, lashing out for a cause which wasn't even theirs, personally...but we all have opinions?)
Naturally we all have opinions It is hard not to when you see what is happening in the world and at home with the Cops and the "terrorists" on all fronts
I was always one to support the cops I always had good luck when dealling with them until recently. The way that cop almost shot me for a signal light out, the way the cops came to my house asking about my 'meth lab" (after illegally entering my garage looking for a reported gang banger in the area), the way they invaded a home in Henderson of an innocent man and treated him like a criminal JUST because he refused them access to his home as a command post to get out of the heat... tells me we have issues that need to be OUT IN FOCUS
The fact that social media IS focusing on these things is already showing a sign of helping because action IS being taken
Same with the Islamic thing. No matter how peceful the 99% majority CLAIM to be the fact is they do nothing (well almost nothing as their are finally some signs of action) to stop their own... yet at the same time our way of life... our freedom, our women having freedom is ABHORENT to them so we have a conflict of ideaseven before we start.
That shooting actually LOOKS faked. We get so many reports that everything in the news these days is a 'false flag" but THIS one seems even the Sheeple can see it for what it is... a deliberate attempt to STIR UP A WAR. The bullet hit the sidewalk You can see the puff of cement dust (Thanks Russo) They left their ID in the back of an abandoned car... REALLY? Like that passport that floated to the ground at WTC?
And look at the effect of that shooting... Thousands protesting in France and thousands more in Germany to fix the problem
And then we get a Jewish Judge saying this,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w2ZS231BAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w2ZS231BAQ
Yes we are going to talk about it Yes we are going to try to show the propaganda and the reality... We still have to live on this rock too
Australia has issues with Muslims trying to bring in Sharia law then suddenly a lone terrorist screaming Allah Hu Akbar takes over a coffee shop? The Goon Squad moves in several dead shock waves sent out "Those damn Muslims again..."
Well seems the Judge is getting her way... these are Syrian Airforce bombings not US (as people on FB say)
Seems all they can say over there is Allah Hu Akbar (God is Great)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_iYQlMw0r0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_iYQlMw0r0
Gonna get a LOT worse before it gets better
One comment on Youtube drives the point home...
TehNetherlands says:
Muslims get bombed: God is great!
Children get bombed: God is great!
Neighborhood gets bombed: God is great!
Mosque gets bombed: God is great!
You cannot win against such a mind set
Interior Ministry says Paris march on January 11 is "the biggest in history of France". Over 3 million in media's estimates marched through Paris in solidarity with victims of Charlie Hebdo attack and hostage crisis. VIDEO, PHOTOS:
http://rt.com/news/221587-paris-world-march-leaders/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzm3DQnxD2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzm3DQnxD2Q
And so it begins...
Anti-Islam 'Pegida' march in German city of Dresden: World News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRb5DY1S1C0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRb5DY1S1C0
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 09:16:09 PM
And so it begins...
Anti-Islam 'Pegida' march in German city of Dresden: World News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRb5DY1S1C0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRb5DY1S1C0
It has already begun some time ago, those Pegida marches have been happening for some time, the first time I saw about them was some months ago.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 11, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
It has already begun some time ago, those Pegida marches have been happening for some time, the first time I saw about them was some months ago.
Most likely but then you are closer to the 'action' then we are and I haven't been looking
That Judge has to be the ugliest human on the planet... real proof of the Israeli/US connection...
Good thing I live out in the desert Not immune here but we are more insulated and surrounded by TOP GUNS :P
If I had the money...
Is this place available? LOL
(http://www.holidays-portugal.eu/files_holidays_portugal/sintra_pena_palace_2.jpg)
I applaud the people on the net and in this forum who realise it is most likely another false flag but WE are a MINORITY and therefore nothing we say or do will change much .... We need to find a way to reach more people because ever since 9/11 they have been getting BOLDER with the techniques they employ and once your on to it ... it becomes easier to spot !!!
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 08:52:43 PM
That shooting actually LOOKS faked. We get so many reports that everything in the news these days is a 'false flag" but THIS one seems even the Sheeple can see it for what it is... a deliberate attempt to STIR UP A WAR. The bullet hit the sidewalk You can see the puff of cement dust (Thanks Russo) They left their ID in the back of an abandoned car... REALLY? Like that passport that floated to the ground at WTC?
I'm with ya on a lot of it.
On the shooting though? Some of the speculation strikes me as cold at a whole new level.
The person on the ground was shot point blank by a .308 (or equivalent of), which is quite capable of hunting large game at long ranges. I'd be suspicious, frankly, if it had NOT gone through and through to hit the pavement out in front of the body being shot. It would look fake if it looked that far under the power of an AK round from..what? 2 feet away?
In terms of the dropped ID? Well.. They also shot a dozen people and then stayed in the general area to be hunted down and killed like rats in a hole. I expected to see the next appearance of these killers on a makeshift podium in ISIS controlled territory, after the French authorities lost them at the scene. Any professional terrorist would (and historically have) been a couple nations away in the time it took to travel it, having planned that out a bit more than a few hours at a time in advance.
These guys seemed to almost have acted out a delusion based on gross casual movie violence ...then ran out of ideas of 'what next??', until the authorities did what authorities eventually do when someone doesn't leave the general area. They found them and they killed them. Nothing has been gained...and nothing has changed.
It didn't even have a clear goal, as professional terrorist organizations generally do before investing time and resources into an idea. These were just criminals with a delusional attachment to a cause in the Arabian Peninsula. Heck..it says a lot when even Hamas (closely tied and allied to the Muslim Brotherhood and the whole rest of it) outright denounced and condemned the initial killings.
I've made my feelings known about this topic many times, I've decided not to touch it anymore except with a four foot Templar sword! ::)
It is a problem... a HUGE problem...
The PTB that we the conspiracy nuts have always accused of manipulating the world are now at it FULL FORCE and in the open
That Jewish Judge made me literally sick... she is a prime example of what we here call a JAP (Jewish american Princess. Hollywood is full of them and they are obnoxious at best but relatively harmless
But this judge gets main stream media attention big time. This is scary actually it puts a REAL face on the American/ Jewish connection that we all know is there. Hell 9/11 showed us that too...
But today I see this ... Propaganda? Well the incident is certainly being used as propaganda but the story is REAL
Back when my daughter was in grade school the teacher sent home a letter stating that my daughter needed to be enrolled in a Spanish class... the reason? So she could better communicate with the Hispanics in the school
Really? Well my wife was livid... but lets move on
THIS incident should cause a real fuss...
Our public schools have been told to remove all symbols and mention of religion, take God and even Christmas out of the schools... There was even a teacher who caused a stir because she was wearing a Star of David pendant...
I am OKAY with taking religion out of the public school as everyone has their own choice...
Pennsylvania Middle School Parent Uses Decades-Old Religious Symbols Law to Complain About Teacher Wearing Star of David Pendant
http://www.shalomlife.com/news/27043/parent-uses-decades-old-religious-symbols-law-to-complain-about-teacher-wearing-star-of-david-pendant/
But in Colorado, a state run PUBLIC school decided to take the kids on a tour of a MOSQUE...
Colorado public school forces girls to follow Islamic dress code on a school field trip to a mosqueA school district in Colorado is coming under the wrath of the community for telling school girls that they may have to submit to sharia-compliant rules regarding covering their heads and ankles on a field trip to a Muslim mosque.
Well originally they say it was to show a sign of respect "When in Rome..." Okay I can see that but WHY is a public school going to a Mosque for a filed trip?
(http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/92921maxw630maxh420q100border0-vi.jpg)
According to WND, Douglas County School District confirmed that such Islamic law will be enforced on the trip. Rocky Heights Middle School (RHMS) Principal Mike Loitz appeared on January 6, 2015 on KNUS 710 radio and was interviewed about the trip.
Peter Boyles of KNUS reported on the rules the school system issued to students in order to notify parents, which were as follows:
The world religions field trip is next Tuesday, January 13. We will be visiting the Denver Mosque. THERE IS A DRESS CODE FOR THIS TRIP: All students must wear appropriate long pants. Ankles must be covered. Girls must bring wide scarves or hooded sweatshirts for the mosque.
(http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/90jpgmaxw470maxh313q100border0-vi.jpg)
According to Boyles, "Public schools are forbidden from holding girls to different standards than boys," Boyles notes. "They're holding these girls to a different standard – it's a religious reason."
"Islam dictates many, I believe – personal belief – repressive practices against women and Islamophobia will trump women's rights," Boyles said. "Animal rights every time, and the environment. That's their belief – that's wonderful. But don't apply it to public school kids."
He also went on to talk about the difference of visiting a place of worship on one's own initiative and comply with the rules versus a school requiring students to comply.
(http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/9_115655711905193_1324446356_n-vi.jpg)
On this school field trip to a mosque, girls didn't have to wear Islamic-approved clothing but they had to kneel down and pray to AllahAfter a firestorm had erupted over forcing girls to submit to sharia, the school thought it best to provide a statement of clarification.
"For the past ten years, RHMS seventh-grade students take a social studies course that is partially focused on world religion," the statement reads. "In the Douglas County School District (DCSD), we provide authentic learning experiences to all students. We teach students how to think, not what to think."
(http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/100916mosquevi-vi.jpg)
So, if the school district is trying to teach students how to think and not what to think, why is there an imposing of sharia on these girls?
"If the decision is made to not participate in a field trip, alternative educational opportunities are provided.
It is true that the trip is voluntary and not mandatory. However, Islam has been making advances into America's public schools and the ideology of Islam is poisoning the minds of our young people. Why is it that Americans must make way for Islam, but it will not make way for America?
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/01/09/colorado-public-school-forces-girls-to-follow-islamic-dress-code-on-a-school-field-trip-to-a-mosque/
Yes its a propaganda site I chose it for that reason so yawl can harp on it being propaganda and ignore the real story and the implications
Quote from: Sinny on January 08, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
I can't believe that our Peggy members are involved in non-critical discussions of Propagated Bullshiz.
Because adding to the Propaganda is a noble cause ::)
NO PROBLEM!!!
I will just go back and play OSTRICH
::)
(http://www.myjokemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ostrich-04.jpg)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 11, 2015, 11:29:21 PM
I've made my feelings known about this topic many times, I've decided not to touch it anymore except with a four foot Templar sword! ::)
Let me see that sword :P
Is it as big as mine?
(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/01ov/images/Events/Forest1998/Tent/011.jpg)
That hack on Fox news really got to ya huh?
I hadn't even considered the fact she was Jewish, to be honest..but Fox is a War Hawk's news network and they bang the war drums on the mere hint of a bounce in ratings. I haven't taken any of their coverage seriously outside the basic, raw and usually directly relayed facts. Of the networks reporting on this, they do seem to be the most combative and most happy to see it lead is into doubling down on the paranoid insanity that has run our nation for 14 years now.
I also agree with you on much of the rest of what you're pointing out.
However... I don't see the connection between the individual lives of the people that killed those in France and an idiot talking head on Fox News (as we seem to agree she is, at the very least) or the cross cultural push on all fronts we're getting in our domestic media? Yeah..They are trying their best to push agendas, and I'm not sure we've ever even seen the real game being played here.
Nothing we DO see yet makes sense, taken as a whole and in sequence of events,and not even in the big picture or geopolitical level. Games within games...and where some see conspiracy behind the actual trigger pulling idiots who do these acts? I see the true conspiracy formed at the level of response, as those in power simply wait patiently for the stress they create ...every day... to inevitably lead to these rampages. They will happen, and no government or intelligence agency need have a thing to do with it. They need only twist the screws of collective taxes, regulations, laws, fines, grievances of all sorts and all delivered with a 'drop dead and like it' attitude in our daily lives, all over the world.
That is all it takes to insure more incidents will happen...and the screws keep twisting, without let up. More incidents will certainly happen. One of the Republicans in Congress was on a few minutes ago babbling about these attacks becoming a weekly event for tempo. Well..if they keep squeezing people in every way, culture and values included? He may very well be predicting what some so much DO want to see. At least my thoughts..and I never did like Ostriches ;)
Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on January 11, 2015, 11:20:32 PM
I'm with ya on a lot of it.
On the shooting though? Some of the speculation strikes me as cold at a whole new level.
The person on the ground was shot point blank by a .308 (or equivalent of), which is quite capable of hunting large game at long ranges. I'd be suspicious, frankly, if it had NOT gone through and through to hit the pavement out in front of the body being shot. It would look fake if it looked that far under the power of an AK round from..what? 2 feet away?
Come on, Wrabbit. You can do better than that. There would have been
some blood.
Some. There was none.
QuoteIt didn't even have a clear goal, as professional terrorist organizations generally do before investing time and resources into an idea. These were just criminals with a delusional attachment to a cause in the Arabian Peninsula. Heck..it says a lot when even Hamas (closely tied and allied to the Muslim Brotherhood and the whole rest of it) outright denounced and condemned the initial killings.
As I've said before, one of the primary differences between me and several other people here, is that I do not believe in random coincidences; which in turn means that I don't believe the people involved here were, "just criminals."
The Five Eyes intelligence community are still trying to ignite the Islamophobic powder keg. If I have any interest in focusing on these incidents at all, it is to try and promote awareness of that fact among people who still believe that these things are in some way random or organic, or are genuinely committed by Muslims who have no connection with Five Eyes intelligence.
I really, really,
really want to encourage
everyone here who is willing, to read the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_zion06.htm#menu). If you do, then like me, you will stop believing in randomness or coincidences; because that book will enable you to realise the degree to which all of this is planned, and actually has been for literal millennia.
I know most of you will go on about how it's an anti-Semitic hoax, etc; but if you can, put any thought of the Jews out of your head while you read it. I am not claiming that it is written by a group of Jewish people specifically; I don't know how it originated. All I know is that all of the things which its' author(s) said would be done,
are being done.
That WAS a clean head shot in the video.
Watch very carefully and you will see the first indication on the side walk in line THROUGH the head from muzzle to sidewalk. One can also see a small amount of "splatter" coming out and hitting the sidewalk. It looks red to me.
Note also that the bullet is a full metal jacket and pointed. The bone of the skull is far different from the rind of a watermelon and reacts differently from high speed pointed objects. Exit wounds and entrance would be about the same size.
If that had been a hollow point it would have really splattered the guys head.
Think about it, , , :P
Quote from: Norval on January 12, 2015, 01:29:31 AM
That WAS a clean head shot in the video.
Watch very carefully and you will see the first indication on the side walk in line THROUGH the head from muzzle to sidewalk. One can also see a small amount of "splatter" coming out and hitting the sidewalk. It looks red to me.
Except you can also see smoke/dust coming up from where the round hit the concrete; and said dust rises
behind the officer's head.
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 10:39:26 PM
If I had the money...
Is this place available? LOL
(http://www.holidays-portugal.eu/files_holidays_portugal/sintra_pena_palace_2.jpg)
No, like most castles and palaces it belongs to the state. :)
Quote from: petrus4 on January 12, 2015, 12:53:14 AM
Come on, Wrabbit. You can do better than that. There would have been some blood. Some. There was none.
How long was the camera showing that area? If it was a short time it's possible that no blood was seen at the time.
The guy I saw being shot in the stomach had his back to me, but just after being shot he rotated, facing in my direction, with his hands to the stomach, and there were no visible signs of blood during that short period (maybe one or two seconds) until he fell to the ground and disappearing from my view.
Quote from: petrus4 on January 12, 2015, 12:53:14 AM
Come on, Wrabbit. You can do better than that. There would have been some blood. Some. There was none.
Well, what ammunition were they using? Were that using hollow point boat tail copper jacketed hunting ammo or were they shooting cheap garbage off the Russian market with steel cases and steel cores? One would deform on a tree branch, let alone a human form. I'd have expected to see a good part of the inside come out the exit wound.
The latter would punch a car door and may retain a good percentage of it's energy and shape coming out the other end.
I'm betting on the cheap wolf type Russian junk, which ...oddly enough by the metals used, are armor piercing by definition.
Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on January 12, 2015, 03:16:11 AM
The latter would punch a car door and may retain a good percentage of it's energy and shape coming out the other end.
I can accept the idea that sufficiently high calibre, solid metal ammunition might make a neat, tidy hole on its' way into and out of someone, because of the amount of momentum and so forth. What I can
not accept, however, is that even if the hole was neat and caused no deformation/shattering, that there would be
no blood. If you make a hole in someone, blood comes out; if for no other reason than in order to coagulate and seal the wound.
Quote from: zorgonthese are Syrian Airforce bombings not US (as people on FB say)
Seems all they can say over there is Allah Hu Akbar (God is Great)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_iYQlMw0r0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_iYQlMw0r0
The Operator is filming those strikes! Am i special or is everyone oblivious! Syrian intelligence is on loan from Iran vis a vis the IRGC and its paramilitary equivalent...QUDS force. They probably have successfully trained Syrian Shiites (Assad loyalists) with the capacity necessary for Syrian Air Force target acquisition.
Make no mistake, this is WAY more complex than most have time to understand sufficiently.
Frankly, i don't care if the French needed a little kick in the ass, fake or not....it's about time everybody realize its time to pick a side.
I'm an American
Quote from: Glaucon on January 12, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
Frankly, i don't care if the French needed a little kick in the ass, fake or not....it's about time everybody realize its time to pick a side.
After reading that I remembered that France is the country that is usually seen as "responsible" for Lebanon and some African countries.
Quote from: petrus4 on January 12, 2015, 04:38:24 AM
I can accept the idea that sufficiently high calibre, solid metal ammunition might make a neat, tidy hole on its' way into and out of someone, because of the amount of momentum and so forth. What I can not accept, however, is that even if the hole was neat and caused no deformation/shattering, that there would be no blood. If you make a hole in someone, blood comes out; if for no other reason than in order to coagulate and seal the wound.
In my opinion and life experience, the movies always show lots of blood and a bunch of gore splashing all over. CSI is a great show for that. It makes the whole plot around it, after all. If you take a moment, shut off the filters on Duck Duck Go or another search engine that doesn't trim it's content to be P.C. and search "Gunshot Crime Scene Photos" or similar strings....You'll find images that will make most people throw up. However..you'll also find a fair number that challenge what you're willing to accept about what is or isn't always visible with a gunshot. Gunshots are the oddest injuries, or can be, of them all.
Personally, I'm surprised by the fact it held a straight line. There is non fiction stuff out there where people are shot in the torso with exit wounds ranging from the top of the head to the lower legs. All kinds of weird stuff...
There is also something else I haven't seen confirmed either way? What was the cop wearing when shot? Was that a vest offering any form of protection? Guys in Iraq didn't always find protection from those rounds without ceramic plates, even with full body armor. However, even a heavy down vest could catch the bit of mist that might follow a clean shoot through on the exit?
Quote from: Glaucon on January 12, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
Seems all they can say over there is Allah Hu Akbar (God is Great)
Listening to a lot of those it seems to me by their tone that they use it like we use Oh my God!!!!
QuoteI'm an American
Quote from: ArMaP on January 12, 2015, 01:51:06 PM
After reading that I remembered that France is the country that is usually seen as "responsible" for Lebanon and some African countries.
France does get blamed for a lot od crap :P
They were Nazi collaborators (covered in Hogan's Heros and the French underground)
When Quebec was making all that noise about splitting from Canada Charles de Gaulle came to stir the pot
And remember FREEDOM FRIES?
Freedom fries is a political euphemism for French fries in the United States. The term came to prominence in 2003 when the then Republican Chairman of the Committee on House Administration, Bob Ney, renamed the menu item in three Congressional cafeterias in response to France's opposition to the proposed invasion of Iraq. Although originally supported with several restaurants changing their menus as well, following declining support for the Iraq War, the term fell out of use.
I have several friends in France one is a Berber girl (Samira) now converted Muslim. France offered Moroccans asylum and they let in several thousand Moroccans... problem is they were treated like second class citizens and there were no jobs available to young Moroccans
Samira on the left with my Elf Endrina :D
(http://landoflegendslv.com/03ports/mystsofavalon/00images/Events/Feast2003/F102.jpg)
Quote from: Glaucon on January 12, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
Frankly, i don't care if the French needed a little kick in the ass, fake or not....it's about time everybody realize its time to pick a side.
If I didn't think that most of these incidents were false flags, committed by the American government themselves, I might agree with that. Of all the false bogeymen that Uncle Sam has ever held up for us, Islam is by far the most tempting to unrestrainedly hate. Yet I try, though not always successfully, to resist that temptation.
Wow!! Seriously? The Illuminati Did It!!
French President: "The Illuminati Are Behind The Paris Attacks"
On the 9th January French President François Hollande gave a live speech on national television about the recent terror attacks in Paris.
During his speech he says that "the illuminati are behind the Paris attacks".
Watch the speech and hear the President of France declare who are really behind the Paris terror attacks
- See more at: http://yournewswire.com/french-president-the-illuminati-are-behind-the-paris-attacks/#sthash.0RlOwuxw.dpuf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z9y-FtskzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z9y-FtskzY
http://yournewswire.com/french-president-the-illuminati-are-behind-the-paris-attacks/
The Illuminati and The Muslim Brotherhood go waaaaayyy back.
So that may be more true than anyone would care to admit.
Dusting off my long previous research now.....
Quote from: burntheships on January 13, 2015, 04:50:09 AM
The Illuminati and The Muslim Brotherhood go waaaaayyy back.
Yeah Waaaaaaaayyyyyyy back Long before America was even an idea so
IT'S NOT OUR FAULT :P
Quote from: zorgon on January 13, 2015, 04:03:38 AM
During his speech he says that "the illuminati are behind the Paris attacks".
Watch the speech and hear the President of France declare who are really behind the Paris terror attacks
- See more at: http://yournewswire.com/french-president-the-illuminati-are-behind-the-paris-attacks/#sthash.0RlOwuxw.dpuf[/color]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z9y-FtskzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z9y-FtskzY
http://yournewswire.com/french-president-the-illuminati-are-behind-the-paris-attacks/
He didn't, he said "ces illuminés".
This is the definition of "illuminé", from the French dictionary Larousse:
QuotePersonne dénuée d'esprit critique, qui soutient une doctrine avec une foi aveugle, un zèle fanatique.
Visionnaire en matière religieuse.
Membre de sectes religieuses qui, à l'époque moderne (XVIe-XVIIIe s.), se disait éclairé directement par Dieu, sans le secours des sacrements. (On cite particulièrement les illuminés d'Espagne [alumbrados].)
Grade suprême de l'ordre ancien de la Rose-Croix.
Synonyme de illuministe.
Which can be translated as:
QuoteUncritical person, that supports a doctrine with blind faith or a fanatical zeal.
Visionary in religious matters.
Member of religious sects that, in modern times (XVI-XVIII c.), said they were informed by God, without the help of the sacraments. (Especially the Spanish [alumbrados].)
Highest rank of the old order of the Rosicrucians.
Synonymous of enlightened.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 13, 2015, 09:26:55 AM
He didn't, he said "ces illuminés".
Which can be translated as:
QuoteUncritical person, that supports a doctrine with blind faith or a fanatical zeal.
Visionary in religious matters.
Member of religious sects that, in modern times (XVI-XVIII c.), said they were informed by God, without the help of the sacraments. (Especially the Spanish [alumbrados].)
Highest rank of the old order of the Rosicrucians.
Synonymous of enlightened.
illuminati Definition:
1. People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject.
2. Illuminati Any of various groups claiming special religious or philosophical enlightenment.
1. (Philosophy) a group of persons claiming exceptional enlightenment on some subject, esp religion
3. (Christian Churches, other) a masonic sect founded in Bavaria in 1778 claiming that the illuminating grace of Christ resided in it alone
4. (Christian Churches, other) a rare name for the Rosicrucians
Hmmm looks the same to me :P
So yes he did say ILLUMINATI only in French :P
Which considering he is FRENCH, is not a surprise
So by that definition I guess I am officially an Illuminati too :D
As soon as I heard on MSM that the suspect had left his ID card in the car, a flag went up for me.
911 all over again!
Way too convenient to find terrorists by finding ID.
Quote from: micjer on January 13, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
As soon as I heard on MSM that the suspect had left his ID card in the car, a flag went up for me.
911 all over again!
Way too convenient to find terrorists by finding ID.
Makes you wonder why they do that...
That passport at 9/11 was one thing that made a lot of people say "Hey wait a minute...." I highly doubt that real terrorists care REAL ID if any at all...
The CIA and other assorted spooks have fake ID with stashes in case they need to abandon one ID for another
and TWO of them leaving their ID by mistake?
Smells like the PTB WANT us to know its a false flag... big red one waving at us :D
This has got to be the first time I have seen MSM show a police officer being shot. They normally censor that type of thing, proving that this was a staged event to stir emotions.
Problem-Reaction-Solution
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Quote from: zorgon on January 13, 2015, 10:20:15 AM
illuminati Definition:
1. People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject.
2. Illuminati Any of various groups claiming special religious or philosophical enlightenment.
1. (Philosophy) a group of persons claiming exceptional enlightenment on some subject, esp religion
3. (Christian Churches, other) a masonic sect founded in Bavaria in 1778 claiming that the illuminating grace of Christ resided in it alone
4. (Christian Churches, other) a rare name for the Rosicrucians
Hmmm looks the same to me :P
So yes he did say ILLUMINATI only in French :P
Which considering he is FRENCH, is not a surprise
It's not really the same thing, as we in Portugal also use the word (only in Portuguese, obviously) in the same way he used it, in the sense of "these people that think that they are better than others without any reason for it", that's why he said "ces illuminés" (these enlightened ones) and not "les illuminés" (the enlightened ones) or "les illuminati", as he should have if he was talking about the illuminati, as the name is in Latin and not translated, like all names.
QuoteSo by that definition I guess I am officially an Illuminati too :D
Yes. :)
I like to maintain a fairly precise, operational definition of the Illuminati, as with most things.
a} They are exceedingly wealthy, and this is one of their primary trademarks. Most of us know about the Rothschilds these days; I think there are probably a lot of others that we don't know about.
b} They understand and utilise both the general principles of hermeticism, and specifically the laws described here (http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.php). Blavatsky referred to this body of knowledge, collectively, as the Secret Doctrine (http://theosophy.org/Blavatsky/Secret%20Doctrine/SD-I/SDVolume_I.htm).
c} They have weaponised the Secret Doctrine, and are using their knowledge of it offensively against the general public. The specific ways in which they are doing that, are described in this book (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_zion06.htm#menu).
d} They have created the entire current scientific/atheistic worldview and perspective. Some of it is the truth, but the vast majority of it is not. Their goal in doing this, is to create a scenario where what the public knows and believes, is the diametric opposite of what the Secret Doctrine teaches, so that the public may be kept disempowered and enslaved.
e} The cabal are eugenicists, and unspeakable monsters in general terms. Their ultimate objective is the establishment of the scenario described by the Georgia Guidestones (http://thegeorgiaguidestones.com/), which among other things, includes the establishment of world government, and the reduction of the global population to half a billion people.
In the cabal's defense, it is perhaps necessary to point out that at least some of them are not deliberately evil, according to their own perspective. I recently read this book (http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-World-Mark-Booth/dp/1590201620) which describes a rather sad perversion of the concept of evolution. According to said concept, humanity has been going from simpler to more complex, and increasingly more condensed and physical, spiritual and psychological states. So at one point polytheism will exist, for example; and then afterwards monotheism will begin to develop.
The problem with this idea is that the cabal unfortunately view themselves as shepherds, guiding humanity from what they perceive to be one developmental or evolutionary stage to the next. The tragic and unspeakable element of this, is that for some reason in their minds, in order to ensure that we get to the next evolutionary stage, they believe that it is necessary to murder everyone who is currently in the stage which has become most recently obsolete.
Wait a minute here :o When has a terrorist attack EVER been called a FALSE FLAG AS QUICKLY AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN ?
There just seems to be something very fishy going on here .....
The French claiming it was the illuminati surprised me no end .....
Is it possible that the VERY SAME elements who arranged the 9/11 attacks
could they still BE AT IT ? It seems to ME that whenever they have an agenda they want followed Something BIG will happen to swing the public behind them - talk about the ART OF MANIPULATION 8)
Quote from: mutchie6g on January 14, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Wait a minute here :o When has a terrorist attack EVER been called a FALSE FLAG AS QUICKLY AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN ?
In the last two years, almost all multiple killings are considered false flags by some people. ::)
QuoteThe French claiming it was the illuminati surprised me no end .....
They didn't claim that.
Quote from: mutchie6g on January 14, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Wait a minute here :o When has a terrorist attack EVER been called a FALSE FLAG AS QUICKLY AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN ?
Ok... let's assume this is a false flag. Can you point me a false flag for what?
Is it a false flag to start a jihad war style? What their goal if this is the objective? The jihad itself?
Is this a false flag to hide some meteorite hitting some city so they can tell you "hey this was a terrorist nuclear bomb attack"? (and are producing these event types to get people's attention away from what really matters? In this case meteors falling from the sky?).So are we facing a doom like scenario here?
Are they trying to take more rights from citizens starting a civil/religious war in france?
Please... help me find an answer to why this event being a false flag would be an advantage(one that justify the troubles) to the people who are behind the curtain.
Quote from: RUSSO on January 14, 2015, 04:42:00 AM
Ok... let's assume this is a false flag. Can you point me a false flag for what?
I wrote this article (http://www.mirshalak.org/blog/911-rant+09122011+.html) in 2011, as a personal testimony or manifesto, regarding my position concerning 9/11. Said position remains largely the same with Charlie Hebdo, and indeed any other incident of this type, as I believe that they are part of the same campaign, and are persuing the same objectives.
Quote from: petrus4 on January 14, 2015, 05:14:22 AM
I wrote this article (http://www.mirshalak.org/blog/911-rant+09122011+.html) in 2011, as a personal testimony or manifesto, regarding my position concerning 9/11. Said position remains largely the same with Charlie Hebdo, and indeed any other incident of this type, as I believe that they are part of the same campaign, and are persuing the same objectives.
Everyone that did some research along the years since 9/11, knows that something very wrong happened in that day. It is clear to me that the term False Flag, if not invented before, would be carved due that day. It is not the case, but still...
Making an obvious qualification, due to the proportions of each case, let's take a look at the three main reasons cited in your article.
QuoteTo gain the support of the domestic American population, to wage further wars, even though said wars would ultimately only enrich the military/industrial complex and the corporations.
Thinking only about France, i would find hard to believe they are trying to get support from their citizens to wage some war. If this is an Europe/West coop work, this will not be enough to convince them, in my point of view.
Maybe in a close future with more of this cases popping up, but only time to tell.
QuoteTo create pretext for the erradication of political freedom on a global level, which, as we have seen, has in the intervening years very largely occurred.
This only works if the political freedom they want to "purge" are the muslims rights. The question is, are their culture so strong among France (or Europe if you will) that they need a False Flag (that is always risky to be executed) to control it? Are not their political system enough to work it out?
QuoteTo thus also assist in the creation of a scenario where ultimately, the will of domestic populations would have no power to constrain the actions of governments.
What the actions of the gov would be? Banish the culture of their territory?
In the end, if this is/was a false flag, it seems to me that the only people that have something to loose(being minimalist here, of course) are the muslims.
In my point of view, this case was a tragedy where we had threats, including bomb attempts and finally, the absurd, after ignored warnings finally happened.
The way i see fit better in a case of false flag, would be the attempt to stop the advance of muslim religion/culture in France, perhaps (if future cases happen) in Europe. But converge on this now would be pure speculation.
And Petrus4, it's a very well written article. Even knowing you don't need flattering words as you are well aware about your capabilities, im doing it.
Whether these killings in France were a false flag or not, I can guarantee that the western governments are going to use this event to take more freedoms away, with more surveilance, police actions, laws governing movement etc.
Ever notice lately that the TV is blasting the theme of terrorists-Islam-bombings non stop?
Whether it is the news, or advertisements for games, or upcoming movies, or the majority of drama shows are all about terrorist plots,homeland security, Islam related individuals etc.
The show Person of Interest is way too realistic in the governments ability to track people. Just try to hide as well as Bin Laden did! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oODuTiw1tYE
Notice two things. Back window of black car is smashed in. When police car backs up, it crashes into parked car at end of street.
:-\I am thinking this might be a good theory of the events ...
The obviously faked (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/10/the-undead-dead-french-cop-in-selfie-revival/) terror incident in Paris last week was clearly aimed at preparing public opinion in the West for an operation to take down the Saudi Arabian monarchy. The operation consisted of having a French magazine publish cartoons of a sort that would lead to a death penalty in Saudi Arabia and then faking the execution of the magazine's staff. This serves to make the Western public aware and angry about the sort of thing the Saudi government does.
It is a fact the Saudi Monarchy has for years bankrolled and promoted and obscurantist, radical sect of Islam known as Wahhabism. They have also worked hand in glove with the Bush Nazi crime family for decades in their project to replace Western democracy with totalitarian dictatorship. This is a country where, if you are caught in an adulterous relationship, the punishment, to this day, is to have you buried up to the waist in the sand and then stoned to death. This is also a country where you can be arbitrarily killed by the ruling family for questioning their control of that country. When I was there I was advised that if I got in a traffic accident, I should pretend to be injured so that I would be taken to a hospital instead of a police station. If I ended up in a police station I might never come out, I was told. This family mafia country has been using their oil wealth to create armies of ignorant fanatics throughout the world.
So, to cut off financing for Islamo-fascists, beheading the Saudi regime would be a good place to start. Or at least that what seems to be going on in the minds of the people staging the events in Paris. There is a deeper aspect to this story though.
The Saudis themselves represent a slave government controlled by elements of the P2 Freemason lodge who want to engineer a battle between Christianity and Islam in order to force them to become a single religion, or a one world religion controlled in secret by them. They created and financed Wahhabists and other fake Muslim extremist groups in order to create a boogey man for brainwashed Western militaries to attack. The end game is a world fascist dictatorship controlled by a small clique of inbred families. In this version, the Saudi royals are just pawns acting out the role of bad buys.
here is a link to the whole article :..http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1421080790
When I heard that the "terrorist" left his ID in the the car I thought.... "oh come on "! ... not that trick again"... :o
You know...A small, and obviously deeply vindictive part of me, would have no objections to the idea of the entire Saudi peninsula being reduced to a radioactive blast crater, in all honesty. I'm aware that this borders on psychopathic; but from a purely visceral standpoint, the concept of raining thermonuclear justice down upon the capital of Islam has tremendous appeal.
I've read the Protocols, too. I've read Albert Pike. I know about the cabal's plans in this regard. I know that every major terrorist incident since at least the early 90s has been false flag. I can accept every other religion, and virtually every other subcultural group in existence. I did not (and still do not) condone the Holocaust. I never believed that Communism was a genuine threat. There are literally none other among the cabal's bogeymen, that I have been convinced to view as truly dangerous.
Yet to put it very mildly, I still just plain don't like Islam. Never have, never will. This is one instance where I honestly believe that the entirety of the rest of humanity, requires not only defense, but vengeance. The religion offends me on an exceptionally deep, fundamental, primal level.
Islam should not rightfully exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632q94e2zm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632q94e2zm8
They invade our space, and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay, for what they've done!
(http://img.ivsky.com/img/bizhi/pre/201007/22/xuancai-009.jpg)
Quote from: petrus4 on January 15, 2015, 06:35:04 AM
You know...A small, and obviously deeply vindictive part of me, would have no objections to the idea of the entire Saudi peninsula being reduced to a radioactive blast crater, in all honesty.
I have said the same many times on FB except I say the Middle East :P
It may sound psychotic but at this point I see no other solution There will NEVER be agreement and peace in that region and it will (and is) sucking the whole world down the drain
I am 63, health is dropping... I won't be around much longer... but my kids will be heading into this mess
So while it may be psychotic... it would be most satisfying to see the end before I go...
Loss of life? I care not as I KNOW it doesn't end here They will simply get a DO OVER :P
(http://s3.timetoast.com/public/uploads/photos/2634747/Atomic%20bomb.jpg?1337270161)
Quote from: zorgon on January 15, 2015, 07:14:31 AM
Loss of life? I care not as I KNOW it doesn't end here They will simply get a DO OVER :P
I agree totally, but it won't likely be on this planet the way it is heading. Won't be much to come back to.
Quote from: petrus4 on January 15, 2015, 06:35:04 AM
I'm aware that this borders on psychopathic; but from a purely visceral standpoint, the concept of raining thermonuclear justice down upon the capital of Islam has tremendous appeal.
It borders on psychopathic, on the inside of the border. ;)
QuoteI've read the Protocols, too. I've read Albert Pike.
I haven't, I have my own opinions. ;D
QuoteI know about the cabal's plans in this regard. I know that every major terrorist incident since at least the early 90s has been false flag.
I don't have certainties about things like that. :)
QuoteIslam should not rightfully exist.
Why?
We're treading extremely dangerous ground with this current discourse.
There is all but an all out war declared on 'Islam', which is a ridiculous notion within it's self.
I'm even witnessing 'strong willed minds' bend to the will of such propaganda.
ETA: Mini rant cutout
Quote from: ArMaP on January 15, 2015, 09:25:35 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on January 15, 2015, 06:35:04 AM
Islam should not rightfully exist.
Why?
Well I suppose technically since the belief in that God started with the Jews, all other groups after the fact are simply interpretations by man and since have splintered again an again until we have the thousand plus versions of the true word of god that we see today
Christians have a little leeway because of Jesus but they should have started from there and dropped the old Jewish tesxts :P
But since its all come from the Sumerian stories anyway LOL
Quote from: Sinny on January 16, 2015, 01:38:59 AM
There is all but an all out war declared on 'Islam', which is a ridiculous notion within it's self.
I declared paper war on all religions 20 years ago :P I am not about to pussy foot now
I have NO problem with anything anyone wishes to believe. Beleive what you will but let me go my way. Try to knock on my door selling it your going to get an opinion
Quote from: zorgon on January 16, 2015, 04:17:04 AM
I declared paper war on all religions 20 years ago :P I am not about to pussy foot now
I'm an atheist but I never thought about "declaring war" to any religion, as they are just people's beliefs like my own. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on January 16, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
I'm an atheist but I never thought about "declaring war" to any religion, as they are just people's beliefs like my own. :)
No you misunderstood. Peoples beliefs are find we all have them
My 'war' is against organized religion particularly the "thumpers" When you try to push your foot in the door and sell me your version of reality, you can expect me to return fire :P
The 'foot in the door" includes posts :P
I have found that the biggest thumpers are ones that are merely doing what they are told and rarely have read the book themselves...
Back in my younger days I used to take the time to mess with them. I would listen to their spiel, then say "well leave me your books and I will look at it... come back next week and I will ask questions" 9 times out of 10 they couldn't answer the questions :P So I sent them packing
A few time in Winnipeg you could see them coming up the street so I put on a large upside down crucifix and answered the door... They saw that eyes popped and they hurried away... saw one group huddle on the street the guy pointing at my house and they all scurried away THAT was hilarious
If I come to YOU to ask that is fir game... but start thumping on me your in for a war :P
Just last year I had a really cute baptist gal with her group walking door to door. I listened to her speech about how I needed to be saved from my sins because God was coming to destroy the world...
I replied "Why would I want to worship a god that threatens to destroy my world?"
She was silent had no answer and scurried away :P
Lack of religious tolerance has caused 90% of the wars on this planet More people have died in the name of religion than anything else in our combined history
Are we "Muslim bashing" in this thread? PERHAPS
But the atrocities committed are pushed in our face. Sure this Charlie thing is most likely to be a deliberate false flag designed to start a war... but the attrocitied commited against women has not stopped, Dubai bills itself as a modern upstanding society and advertises around the world for men and women to have awesome careers in Dubai...
But when that woman take the job, and dares to go to a bar for a drink, she is allowed to be raped and then put in jail for acting inappropriately
Call the embassy... they say "Nothing we can do it's there law"
Sorry the radicals number in the MILLIONS current estimates are close to the population of the United States or HIGHER
Hiding your head in the sand won't fix it... neither will throwing gasoline on the flames...
It's going to get ugly real soon... I am just glad my family is in Nevada
Quote from: zorgon on January 16, 2015, 08:18:46 PM
No you misunderstood. Peoples beliefs are find we all have them
My 'war' is against organized religion particularly the "thumpers" When you try to push your foot in the door and sell me your version of reality, you can expect me to return fire :P
It's still just their opinion against yours. :)
QuoteI have found that the biggest thumpers are ones that are merely doing what they are told and rarely have read the book themselves...
Obviously, those are the ones that do not think for themselves.
QuoteBack in my younger days I used to take the time to mess with them. I would listen to their spiel, then say "well leave me your books and I will look at it... come back next week and I will ask questions" 9 times out of 10 they couldn't answer the questions :P So I sent them packing
I haven't done that in a long time (with Jehovah's Witnesses, the only group that does that here with any frequency) because they stopped appearing for some time, and now rarely appear and look like they only want to leave their leaflets, not talk.
One of the last times I had one of those visits, at the end, it was I that wouldn't stop talking and they the ones that wanted to end the conversation, which they finally managed to do, but one of the two old ladies was probably standing for too long and fell when she started to climb down the stairs. Nobody appeared after that for several years. ;D
(no Jehovah's Witnesses were harmed in the above situation)
QuoteLack of religious tolerance has caused 90% of the wars on this planet More people have died in the name of religion than anything else in our combined history
I think you can safely remove the word "religious", as I think lack of tolerance is the biggest problem.
QuoteAre we "Muslim bashing" in this thread? PERHAPS
I think some are. ;)
QuoteBut the atrocities committed are pushed in our face.
That's the problem, it looks like someone is interested in pushing them in our face to make us hate them.
QuoteCall the embassy... they say "Nothing we can do it's there law"
There should be some kind of protection against that from the other countries' authorities.
QuoteSorry the radicals number in the MILLIONS current estimates are close to the population of the United States or HIGHER
Who made those estimates? And why are the radicals being created?
QuoteHiding your head in the sand won't fix it... neither will throwing gasoline on the flames...
I think we have been fuelling things a little here.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 16, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Obviously, those are the ones that do not think for themselves.
Those are the ones I declared war on :P
http://talesfromtheconspiratum.com/2015/01/16/turkish-president-says-the-unsayable-west-is-behind-charlie-hebdo-false-flag-attacks/
More and more people are figuring it out. Makes me wonder how much longer the transatlantic psychopaths are going to be able to keep playing this game.
Video here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMH-Ki6bpe4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMH-Ki6bpe4
Quote from: ArMaP on January 16, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Who made those estimates? And why are the radicals being created?
Well according to Israeli 'estimates' its about 25% that are extremists
The 1% comes from the 'peaceful Muslims" when ever they talk about it
I suspect it is higher than 1% but 1% is still millions intent on wiping us out :P
Us tossing a little fuel on the fire? Well maybe but they tore down a Buddha so let them BURN :P
Quote from: ArMaP on January 16, 2015, 08:48:49 PMAnd why are the radicals being created?
Hmmm good question.
Are THESE being created too?
(http://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Pakistan-demo-antiCharlieHebdo.jpg)
Ya know I always wonders WHO prints all those signs we see at these rallies?
::)
I have mixed emotions about Gerald Celente. Chicken Little at the utmost. Doom and gloom and if you preach it long enough, eventually you will be right. The economy has been going to completely collapse since I have started listening to him. Blah Blah Blah
Having said that he does have some really good points in his rant starting at the 12:00 minute mark of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEovJqMllkQ
"TERRORISM IS THE BEST POLITICAL WEAPON. FOR NOTHING DRIVES PEOPLE HARDER THAN A FEAR OF SUDDEN DEATH"
Adolf Hitler
Quote from: micjer on January 17, 2015, 02:30:00 PM
"TERRORISM IS THE BEST POLITICAL WEAPON. FOR NOTHING DRIVES PEOPLE HARDER THAN A FEAR OF SUDDEN DEATH"
Adolf Hitler
I thought that was fake quotes. :P
Quote from: zorgon on January 17, 2015, 09:22:40 AM
Hmmm good question.
Are THESE being created too?
I'm sure they are, as I have never seen a child that was a radical in any way.
Quote(http://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Pakistan-demo-antiCharlieHebdo.jpg)
Ya know I always wonders WHO prints all those signs we see at these rallies?
::)
I suppose you can ask them on their facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/LikeSunniTehreek). :)
Quote from: ArMaP on January 17, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
I thought that was fake quotes. :P
The words are real... the message is true... but when you add a famous name to it people pay attention :P
As to the signs... Seems every protest has these signs ready and in English :P Almost like it was planned ahead of time
On the kid in the picture Yes I am sure they were hired for a photo op... they look to normal for terrorists :P
Quote"If you have an iron heart, good advantage! Mine is made of flesh and bleeds every day." ( Jose Saramago) "
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because you have to be a bozo to drop one.
The world is a funny place...
Seems no one cares what the Musllim are doing in Nigeria...
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Magdy Sisqo
2,000 civilians killed in a terrorist attack in Nigeria on Wednesday (the same day of charlie Accident) and it doesn't even make world news But nobody care because they are black, poor and don't have IQ as some white people said.
Again 2000 civilians killed!!!
Pretty sure that one isn't a false flag ::)
Satellite images show devastation of Boko Haram attacks, rights groups sayQuoteNorthern Nigeria (CNN)Charred ground and cinders mark the sites where once thousands of homes stood. That's according to a series of satellite images released Thursday by Amnesty International, which the rights group said shows the "horrific scale" of the devastation wrought by Boko Haram militants.
As they've trickled out, accounts of the bloody attacks on the northern Nigerian town of Baga and surrounding villages have shocked even those all too used to reports of violence by Boko Haram militants.
Witnesses told how the attackers sped into the town on January 3 with grenade launchers -- their gunfire and explosions shattering the early morning calm. Some terrified residents fled, while others took refuge in their homes -- and were torched with them.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/15/africa/nigeria-boko-haram-images/
Quote from: zorgon on January 18, 2015, 10:14:47 AM
Pretty sure that one isn't a false flag ::)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/19/article-1296068-00029A3E00000258-601_468x286.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1296068/Trading-death-Rapacious-bankers-making-fortunes-forcing-price-food-leaving-millions-starve.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1296068/Trading-death-Rapacious-bankers-making-fortunes-forcing-price-food-leaving-millions-starve.html)
Pretty sure that one isn't a false flag either :'(
Quote from: zorgon on January 18, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
As to the signs... Seems every protest has these signs ready and in English :P Almost like it was planned ahead of time
That's one thing I always look for, any signs in a foreign language with good spelling are suspicious. In the case of that photo it's not suspicious, as English is an official language in Pakistan.
Quote from: zorgon on January 18, 2015, 10:14:47 AM
The world is a funny place...
Seems no one cares what the Musllim are doing in Nigeria...
They are poor, black and not part of the Media, so the Media is not interested in them when they have something they can use to support themselves. ::)
True and since all Nigerians are email scam artists and all Somalians are Pirates that attack cruise ship... I guess many see it as "Well justice is served"