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Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Started by petrus4, January 07, 2015, 02:43:53 PM

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Wrabbit2000

Quote from: Sinny on January 08, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
I can't believe that our Peggy members are involved in non-critical discussions of Propagated Bullshiz.

Because adding to the Propaganda is a noble cause  ::)

I guess some find it more interesting to seek conspiracy in specific shot order and ballistics to exactly how a cop was executed on a sidewalk.....than look at the big issues of why a few people choose to go attack a piece of a major world city like this. A tiny piece..but still?

Did they truly believe this could be a survivable thing? Did they expect public support or at least general Muslim support? Did they do it thinking they'd find Muslim indifference as so often happened in the past?

I can't fathom the 'after' these people imagined they would find, following this murder spree. I guess we clearly have a few people doing this and so conspiracy comes by literal definition. How far beyond the shooters? That's fair to ask too, IMO. Were these wanna-be hangers on to terrorist movements or more? (I think they were rather pathetic losers, lashing out for a cause which wasn't even theirs, personally...but we all have opinions?)

zorgon

Quote from: Sinny on January 08, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
I can't believe that our Peggy members are involved in non-critical discussions of Propagated Bullshiz.

The world is about to explode over this so yeah even Peggy Peeps are interested :P

QuoteBecause adding to the Propaganda is a noble cause  ::)


Exposing it as Propagand however IS a noble cause...

And sometime frustration allows us to LAUGH when Allah the Great makes his wishes known :P





I think I need to add this to the Instant Karma thread :P

zorgon

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Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on January 11, 2015, 06:09:23 PM
I can't fathom the 'after' these people imagined they would find, following this murder spree. I guess we clearly have a few people doing this and so conspiracy comes by literal definition. How far beyond the shooters? That's fair to ask too, IMO. Were these wanna-be hangers on to terrorist movements or more? (I think they were rather pathetic losers, lashing out for a cause which wasn't even theirs, personally...but we all have opinions?)

Naturally we all have opinions  It is hard not to when you see what is happening in the world and at home with the Cops and the "terrorists" on all fronts

I was always one to support the cops  I always had good luck when dealling with them until recently.  The way that cop almost shot me for a signal light out, the way the cops came to my house asking about my 'meth lab" (after illegally entering my garage looking for a reported gang banger in the area), the way they invaded a home in Henderson of an innocent man and treated him like a criminal JUST because he refused them access to his home as a command post to get out of the heat...  tells me we have issues that need to be OUT IN FOCUS

The fact that social media IS focusing on these things is already showing a sign of helping because action IS being taken

Same with the Islamic thing. No matter how peceful the 99% majority CLAIM to be  the fact is they do nothing (well almost nothing as their are finally some signs of action) to stop their own...  yet at the same time our way of life... our freedom, our women having freedom is ABHORENT to them  so we have a conflict of ideaseven before we start.

That shooting actually LOOKS faked. We get so many reports that everything in the news these days is a 'false flag" but THIS one   seems even the Sheeple can see it for what it is... a deliberate attempt to STIR UP A WAR.  The bullet hit the sidewalk  You can see the puff of cement dust (Thanks Russo)  They left their ID in the back of an abandoned car... REALLY?  Like that passport that floated to the ground at WTC?

And look at the effect of that shooting... Thousands protesting in France  and thousands more in Germany to fix the problem

And then we get a Jewish Judge saying this,,





Yes we are going to talk about it  Yes we are going to try to show the propaganda and the reality... We still have to live on this rock too

Australia has issues with Muslims trying to bring in Sharia law   then suddenly a lone terrorist screaming Allah Hu Akbar takes over a coffee shop?  The Goon Squad moves in several dead  shock waves sent out "Those damn Muslims again..."


Well seems the Judge is getting her way... these are Syrian Airforce bombings not US (as people on FB say)

Seems all they can say over there is Allah Hu Akbar (God is Great)





Gonna get a LOT worse before it gets better

One comment on Youtube drives the point home...


TehNetherlands says:
Muslims get bombed: God is great!
Children get bombed: God is great!
Neighborhood gets bombed: God is great!
Mosque gets bombed: God is great!

You cannot win against such a mind set

zorgon

Interior Ministry says Paris march on January 11 is "the biggest in history of France". Over 3 million in media's estimates marched through Paris in solidarity with victims of Charlie Hebdo attack and hostage crisis. VIDEO, PHOTOS:


http://rt.com/news/221587-paris-world-march-leaders/





zorgon

And so it begins...

Anti-Islam 'Pegida' march in German city of Dresden: World News




ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 09:16:09 PM
And so it begins...

Anti-Islam 'Pegida' march in German city of Dresden: World News



It has already begun some time ago, those Pegida marches have been happening for some time, the first time I saw about them was some months ago.

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on January 11, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
It has already begun some time ago, those Pegida marches have been happening for some time, the first time I saw about them was some months ago.

Most likely  but then you are closer to the 'action' then we are  and I haven't been looking

That Judge has to be the ugliest human on the planet... real proof of the Israeli/US connection...

Good thing I live out in the desert Not immune here but we are more insulated and surrounded by TOP GUNS :P

If I had the money...

Is this place available? LOL 


mutchie6g

I applaud the people on the net and in this forum who realise it is most likely another false flag but WE are a MINORITY and therefore nothing we say or do will change much .... We need to find a way to reach more people because ever since 9/11 they have been getting BOLDER with the techniques they employ and once your on to it ... it becomes easier to spot !!!
Mutchie.

Wrabbit2000

Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 08:52:43 PM
That shooting actually LOOKS faked. We get so many reports that everything in the news these days is a 'false flag" but THIS one   seems even the Sheeple can see it for what it is... a deliberate attempt to STIR UP A WAR.  The bullet hit the sidewalk  You can see the puff of cement dust (Thanks Russo)  They left their ID in the back of an abandoned car... REALLY?  Like that passport that floated to the ground at WTC?

I'm with ya on a lot of it.

On the shooting though? Some of the speculation strikes me as cold at a whole new level.

The person on the ground was shot point blank by a .308 (or equivalent of), which is quite capable of hunting large game at long ranges. I'd be suspicious, frankly, if it had NOT gone through and through to hit the pavement out in front of the body being shot. It would look fake if it looked that far under the power of an AK round from..what? 2 feet away?

In terms of the dropped ID? Well.. They also shot a dozen people and then stayed in the general area to be hunted down and killed like rats in a hole. I expected to see the next appearance of these killers on a makeshift podium in ISIS controlled territory, after the French authorities lost them at the scene. Any professional terrorist would (and historically have) been a couple nations away in the time it took to travel it, having planned that out a bit more than a few hours at a time in advance.

These guys seemed to almost have acted out a delusion based on gross casual movie violence ...then ran out of ideas of 'what next??', until the authorities did what authorities eventually do when someone doesn't leave the general area. They found them and they killed them. Nothing has been gained...and nothing has changed.

It didn't even have a clear goal, as professional terrorist organizations generally do before investing time and resources into an idea. These were just criminals with a delusional attachment to a cause in the Arabian Peninsula. Heck..it says a lot when even Hamas (closely tied and allied to the Muslim Brotherhood and the whole rest of it) outright denounced and condemned the initial killings.

Sgt.Rocknroll

I've made my feelings known about this topic many times, I've decided not to touch it anymore except with a four foot Templar sword! ::)
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zorgon

It is a problem... a HUGE problem...

The PTB that we the conspiracy nuts have always accused of manipulating the world are now at it FULL FORCE and in the open

That Jewish Judge made me literally sick... she is a prime example of what we here call a JAP (Jewish american Princess. Hollywood is full of them and they are obnoxious at best but relatively harmless

But this judge gets main stream media attention big time.  This is scary actually  it puts a REAL face on the American/ Jewish connection that we all know is there.  Hell 9/11 showed us that too...

But today I see this ... Propaganda? Well the incident is certainly being used as propaganda but the story is REAL

Back when my daughter was in grade school the teacher sent home a letter stating that my daughter needed to be enrolled in a Spanish class... the reason? So she could better communicate with the Hispanics in the school

Really? Well my wife was livid... but lets move on

THIS incident should cause a real fuss...

Our public schools have been told to remove all symbols and mention of religion, take God and even Christmas out of the schools...  There was even a teacher who caused a stir because she was wearing a Star of David pendant...

I am OKAY with taking religion out of the public school as everyone has their own choice...

Pennsylvania Middle School  Parent Uses Decades-Old Religious Symbols Law to Complain About Teacher Wearing Star of David Pendant
http://www.shalomlife.com/news/27043/parent-uses-decades-old-religious-symbols-law-to-complain-about-teacher-wearing-star-of-david-pendant/

But in Colorado, a state run PUBLIC school decided to take the kids on a tour of a MOSQUE...

Colorado public school forces girls to follow Islamic dress code on a school field trip to a mosque

A school district in Colorado is coming under the wrath of the community for telling school girls that they may have to submit to sharia-compliant rules regarding covering their heads and ankles on a field trip to a Muslim mosque.

Well originally they say it was to show a sign of respect  "When in Rome..."  Okay I can see that  but WHY is a public school going to a Mosque for a filed trip?



According to WND, Douglas County School District confirmed that such Islamic law will be enforced on the trip. Rocky Heights Middle School (RHMS) Principal Mike Loitz appeared on January 6, 2015 on KNUS 710 radio and was interviewed about the trip.

Peter Boyles of KNUS reported on the rules the school system issued to students in order to notify parents, which were as follows:

The world religions field trip is next Tuesday, January 13. We will be visiting the Denver Mosque. THERE IS A DRESS CODE FOR THIS TRIP: All students must wear appropriate long pants. Ankles must be covered. Girls must bring wide scarves or hooded sweatshirts for the mosque.




According to Boyles, "Public schools are forbidden from holding girls to different standards than boys," Boyles notes. "They're holding these girls to a different standard – it's a religious reason."

"Islam dictates many, I believe – personal belief – repressive practices against women and Islamophobia will trump women's rights," Boyles said. "Animal rights every time, and the environment. That's their belief – that's wonderful. But don't apply it to public school kids."

He also went on to talk about the difference of visiting a place of worship on one's own initiative and comply with the rules versus a school requiring students to comply.



On this school field trip to a mosque, girls didn't have to wear Islamic-approved clothing but they had to kneel down and pray to Allah

After a firestorm had erupted over forcing girls to submit to sharia, the school thought it best to provide a statement of clarification.

"For the past ten years, RHMS seventh-grade students take a social studies course that is partially focused on world religion," the statement reads. "In the Douglas County School District (DCSD), we provide authentic learning experiences to all students. We teach students how to think, not what to think."




So, if the school district is trying to teach students how to think and not what to think, why is there an imposing of sharia on these girls?
"If the decision is made to not participate in a field trip, alternative educational opportunities are provided.
It is true that the trip is voluntary and not mandatory. However, Islam has been making advances into America's public schools and the ideology of Islam is poisoning the minds of our young people. Why is it that Americans must make way for Islam, but it will not make way for America?


http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/01/09/colorado-public-school-forces-girls-to-follow-islamic-dress-code-on-a-school-field-trip-to-a-mosque/

Yes its a propaganda site  I chose it for that reason so yawl can harp on it being propaganda and ignore the real story and the implications


Quote from: Sinny on January 08, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
I can't believe that our Peggy members are involved in non-critical discussions of Propagated Bullshiz.

Because adding to the Propaganda is a noble cause  ::)

NO PROBLEM!!! 
I will just go back and play OSTRICH


::)



zorgon

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on January 11, 2015, 11:29:21 PM
I've made my feelings known about this topic many times, I've decided not to touch it anymore except with a four foot Templar sword! ::)

Let me see that sword :P   

Is it as big as mine?


Wrabbit2000

That hack on Fox news really got to ya huh?

I hadn't even considered the fact she was Jewish, to be honest..but Fox is a War Hawk's news network and they bang the war drums on the mere hint of a bounce in ratings. I haven't taken any of their coverage seriously outside the basic, raw and usually directly relayed facts. Of the networks reporting on this, they do seem to be the most combative and most happy to see it lead is into doubling down on the paranoid insanity that has run our nation for 14 years now.

I also agree with you on much of the rest of what you're pointing out.

However... I don't see the connection between the individual lives of the people that killed those in France and an idiot talking head on Fox News (as we seem to agree she is, at the very least) or the cross cultural push on all fronts we're getting in our domestic media? Yeah..They are trying their best to push agendas, and I'm not sure we've ever even seen the real game being played here.

Nothing we DO see yet makes sense, taken as a whole and in sequence of events,and  not even in the big picture or geopolitical level. Games within games...and where some see conspiracy behind the actual trigger pulling idiots who do these acts? I see the true conspiracy formed at the level of response, as those in power simply wait patiently for the stress they create ...every day... to inevitably lead to these rampages. They will happen, and no government or intelligence agency need have a thing to do with it. They need only twist the screws of collective taxes, regulations, laws, fines, grievances of all sorts and all delivered with a 'drop dead and like it' attitude in our daily lives, all over the world.

That is all it takes to insure more incidents will happen...and the screws keep twisting, without let up. More incidents will certainly happen. One of the Republicans in Congress was on a few minutes ago babbling about these attacks becoming a weekly event for tempo. Well..if they keep squeezing people in every way, culture and values included? He may very well be predicting what some so much DO want to see. At least my thoughts..and I never did like Ostriches ;)

petrus4

Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on January 11, 2015, 11:20:32 PM
I'm with ya on a lot of it.

On the shooting though? Some of the speculation strikes me as cold at a whole new level.

The person on the ground was shot point blank by a .308 (or equivalent of), which is quite capable of hunting large game at long ranges. I'd be suspicious, frankly, if it had NOT gone through and through to hit the pavement out in front of the body being shot. It would look fake if it looked that far under the power of an AK round from..what? 2 feet away?

Come on, Wrabbit.  You can do better than that.  There would have been some blood.  Some.  There was none.

QuoteIt didn't even have a clear goal, as professional terrorist organizations generally do before investing time and resources into an idea. These were just criminals with a delusional attachment to a cause in the Arabian Peninsula. Heck..it says a lot when even Hamas (closely tied and allied to the Muslim Brotherhood and the whole rest of it) outright denounced and condemned the initial killings.

As I've said before, one of the primary differences between me and several other people here, is that I do not believe in random coincidences; which in turn means that I don't believe the people involved here were, "just criminals."

The Five Eyes intelligence community are still trying to ignite the Islamophobic powder keg.  If I have any interest in focusing on these incidents at all, it is to try and promote awareness of that fact among people who still believe that these things are in some way random or organic, or are genuinely committed by Muslims who have no connection with Five Eyes intelligence.

I really, really, really want to encourage everyone here who is willing, to read the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.  If you do, then like me, you will stop believing in randomness or coincidences; because that book will enable you to realise the degree to which all of this is planned, and actually has been for literal millennia.

I know most of you will go on about how it's an anti-Semitic hoax, etc; but if you can, put any thought of the Jews out of your head while you read it.  I am not claiming that it is written by a group of Jewish people specifically; I don't know how it originated.  All I know is that all of the things which its' author(s) said would be done, are being done.
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Norval

That WAS a clean head shot in the video.

Watch very carefully and you will see the first indication on the side walk in line THROUGH the head from muzzle to sidewalk. One can also see a small amount of "splatter" coming out and hitting the sidewalk. It looks red to me.

Note also that the bullet is a full metal jacket and pointed. The bone of the skull is far different from the rind of a watermelon and reacts differently from high speed pointed objects. Exit wounds and entrance would be about the same size.

If that had been a hollow point it would have really splattered the guys head.

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