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Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Started by petrus4, January 07, 2015, 02:43:53 PM

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zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on January 13, 2015, 09:26:55 AM
He didn't, he said "ces illuminés".
Which can be translated as:
QuoteUncritical person, that supports a doctrine with blind faith or a fanatical zeal.
Visionary in religious matters.
Member of religious sects that, in modern times (XVI-XVIII c.), said they were informed by God, without the help of the sacraments. (Especially the Spanish [alumbrados].)
Highest rank of the old order of the Rosicrucians.
Synonymous of enlightened.

illuminati  Definition:
1. People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject.
2. Illuminati Any of various groups claiming special religious or philosophical enlightenment.
1. (Philosophy) a group of persons claiming exceptional enlightenment on some subject, esp religion
3. (Christian Churches, other) a masonic sect founded in Bavaria in 1778 claiming that the illuminating grace of Christ resided in it alone
4. (Christian Churches, other) a rare name for the Rosicrucians

Hmmm looks the same to me :P

So yes he did say ILLUMINATI  only in French :P

Which considering he is FRENCH, is not a surprise

So by that definition I guess I am officially an Illuminati too :D

micjer

As soon as I heard on MSM that the suspect had left his ID card in the car, a flag went up for me.

911 all over again!

Way too convenient to find terrorists by finding ID.
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

zorgon

Quote from: micjer on January 13, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
As soon as I heard on MSM that the suspect had left his ID card in the car, a flag went up for me.
911 all over again!
Way too convenient to find terrorists by finding ID.

Makes you wonder why they do that...

That passport at 9/11 was one thing that made a lot of people say "Hey wait a minute...."   I highly doubt that real terrorists care REAL ID if any at all... 

The CIA and other assorted spooks have fake ID with stashes in case they need to abandon one ID for another

and TWO of them leaving their ID by mistake?

Smells like the PTB WANT us to know its a false flag...  big red one waving at us :D

micjer

#63
This has got to be the first time I have seen MSM show a police officer being shot. They normally censor that type of thing, proving that this was a staged event to stir emotions.

Problem-Reaction-Solution

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on January 13, 2015, 10:20:15 AM


illuminati  Definition:
1. People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject.
2. Illuminati Any of various groups claiming special religious or philosophical enlightenment.
1. (Philosophy) a group of persons claiming exceptional enlightenment on some subject, esp religion
3. (Christian Churches, other) a masonic sect founded in Bavaria in 1778 claiming that the illuminating grace of Christ resided in it alone
4. (Christian Churches, other) a rare name for the Rosicrucians

Hmmm looks the same to me :P

So yes he did say ILLUMINATI  only in French :P

Which considering he is FRENCH, is not a surprise
It's not really the same thing, as we in Portugal also use the word (only in Portuguese, obviously) in the same way he used it, in the sense of "these people that think that they are better than others without any reason for it", that's why he said "ces illuminés" (these enlightened ones) and not "les illuminés" (the enlightened ones) or "les illuminati", as he should have if he was talking about the illuminati, as the name is in Latin and not translated, like all names.

QuoteSo by that definition I guess I am officially an Illuminati too :D
Yes. :)

petrus4

#65
I like to maintain a fairly precise, operational definition of the Illuminati, as with most things.

a}  They are exceedingly wealthy, and this is one of their primary trademarks.  Most of us know about the Rothschilds these days; I think there are probably a lot of others that we don't know about.

b}  They understand and utilise both the general principles of hermeticism, and specifically the laws described here.  Blavatsky referred to this body of knowledge, collectively, as the Secret Doctrine.

c}  They have weaponised the Secret Doctrine, and are using their knowledge of it offensively against the general public.  The specific ways in which they are doing that, are described in this book.

d}  They have created the entire current scientific/atheistic worldview and perspective.  Some of it is the truth, but the vast majority of it is not.  Their goal in doing this, is to create a scenario where what the public knows and believes, is the diametric opposite of what the Secret Doctrine teaches, so that the public may be kept disempowered and enslaved.

e}  The cabal are eugenicists, and unspeakable monsters in general terms.  Their ultimate objective is the establishment of the scenario described by the Georgia Guidestones, which among other things, includes the establishment of world government, and the reduction of the global population to half a billion people.

In the cabal's defense, it is perhaps necessary to point out that at least some of them are not deliberately evil, according to their own perspective.  I recently read this book which describes a rather sad perversion of the concept of evolution.  According to said concept, humanity has been going from simpler to more complex, and increasingly more condensed and physical, spiritual and psychological states.  So at one point polytheism will exist, for example; and then afterwards monotheism will begin to develop.

The problem with this idea is that the cabal unfortunately view themselves as shepherds, guiding humanity from what they perceive to be one developmental or evolutionary stage to the next.  The tragic and unspeakable element of this, is that for some reason in their minds, in order to ensure that we get to the next evolutionary stage, they believe that it is necessary to murder everyone who is currently in the stage which has become most recently obsolete.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

mutchie6g

#66
Wait a minute here  :o When has a terrorist attack EVER been called a FALSE FLAG AS QUICKLY AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN ?

There just seems to be something very fishy going on here .....

The French claiming it was the illuminati surprised me no end .....

Is it possible that the VERY SAME elements who arranged the 9/11 attacks

could they still BE AT IT ? It seems to ME that whenever they have an agenda they want followed Something BIG will happen to swing the public  behind them -  talk about the ART OF MANIPULATION  8)
Mutchie.

ArMaP

Quote from: mutchie6g on January 14, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Wait a minute here  :o When has a terrorist attack EVER been called a FALSE FLAG AS QUICKLY AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN ?
In the last two years, almost all multiple killings are considered false flags by some people.  ::)

QuoteThe French claiming it was the illuminati surprised me no end .....
They didn't claim that.

RUSSO

Quote from: mutchie6g on January 14, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Wait a minute here  :o When has a terrorist attack EVER been called a FALSE FLAG AS QUICKLY AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN ?


Ok... let's assume this is a false flag. Can you point me a false flag for what?

Is it a false flag to start a jihad war style? What their goal if this is the objective? The jihad itself?

Is this a false flag to hide some meteorite hitting some city so they can tell you "hey this was a terrorist nuclear bomb attack"? (and are producing these event types to get people's attention away from what really matters? In this case meteors falling from the sky?).So are we facing a doom like scenario here?

Are they trying to take more rights from citizens starting a civil/religious war in france?

Please... help me find an answer to why this event being a false flag would be an advantage(one that justify the troubles) to the people who are behind the curtain.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

petrus4

Quote from: RUSSO on January 14, 2015, 04:42:00 AM
Ok... let's assume this is a false flag. Can you point me a false flag for what?

I wrote this article in 2011, as a personal testimony or manifesto, regarding my position concerning 9/11.  Said position remains largely the same with Charlie Hebdo, and indeed any other incident of this type, as I believe that they are part of the same campaign, and are persuing the same objectives.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

RUSSO

Quote from: petrus4 on January 14, 2015, 05:14:22 AM
I wrote this article in 2011, as a personal testimony or manifesto, regarding my position concerning 9/11.  Said position remains largely the same with Charlie Hebdo, and indeed any other incident of this type, as I believe that they are part of the same campaign, and are persuing the same objectives.

Everyone that did some research along the years since 9/11, knows that something very wrong happened in that day. It is clear to me that the term False Flag, if not invented before, would be carved due that day. It is not the case, but still...

Making an obvious qualification, due to the proportions of each case, let's take a look at the three main reasons cited in your article.

QuoteTo gain the support of the domestic American population, to wage further wars, even though said wars would ultimately only enrich the military/industrial complex and the corporations.

Thinking only about France, i would find hard to believe they are trying to get support from their citizens to wage some war. If this is an Europe/West coop work, this will not be enough to convince them, in my point of view.

Maybe in a close future with more of this cases popping up, but only time to tell.

QuoteTo create pretext for the erradication of political freedom on a global level, which, as we have seen, has in the intervening years very largely occurred.

This only works if the political freedom they want to "purge" are the muslims rights. The question is, are their culture so strong among France (or Europe if you will) that they need a False Flag (that is always risky to be executed) to control it? Are not their political system enough to work it out?

QuoteTo thus also assist in the creation of a scenario where ultimately, the will of domestic populations would have no power to constrain the actions of governments.

What the actions of the gov would be? Banish the culture of their territory?

In the end, if this is/was a false flag, it seems to me that the only people that have something to loose(being minimalist here, of course) are the muslims.



In my point of view, this case was a tragedy where we had threats, including bomb attempts and finally, the absurd, after ignored warnings finally happened.

The way i see fit better in a case of false flag, would be the attempt to stop the advance of muslim religion/culture in France, perhaps (if future cases happen) in Europe. But converge on this now would be pure speculation.

And Petrus4, it's a very well written article. Even knowing you don't need flattering words as you are well aware about your capabilities, im doing it.

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

micjer

Whether these killings in France were a false flag or not, I can guarantee that the western governments are going to use this event to take more freedoms away, with more surveilance, police actions, laws governing movement etc.

Ever notice lately that the TV is blasting the theme of terrorists-Islam-bombings non stop?

Whether it is the news, or advertisements for games, or upcoming movies, or the majority of drama shows are all about terrorist plots,homeland security, Islam related individuals etc. 

The show Person of Interest is way too realistic in the governments ability to track people.  Just try to hide as well as Bin Laden did!  LOL
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer



Notice two things.  Back window of black car is smashed in.  When police car backs up, it crashes into parked car at end of street.

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

hoss58

 :-\I am thinking this might be a good theory of the events ...



The obviously faked (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/10/the-undead-dead-french-cop-in-selfie-revival/) terror incident in Paris last week was clearly aimed at preparing public opinion in the West for an operation to take down the Saudi Arabian monarchy. The operation consisted of having a French magazine publish cartoons of a sort that would lead to a death penalty in Saudi Arabia and then faking the execution of the magazine's staff. This serves to make the Western public aware and angry about the sort of thing the Saudi government does.

It is a fact the Saudi Monarchy has for years bankrolled and promoted and obscurantist, radical sect of Islam known as Wahhabism. They have also worked hand in glove with the Bush Nazi crime family for decades in their project to replace Western democracy with totalitarian dictatorship. This is a country where, if you are caught in an adulterous relationship, the punishment, to this day, is to have you buried up to the waist in the sand and then stoned to death. This is also a country where you can be arbitrarily killed by the ruling family for questioning their control of that country. When I was there I was advised that if I got in a traffic accident, I should pretend to be injured so that I would be taken to a hospital instead of a police station. If I ended up in a police station I might never come out, I was told. This family mafia country has been using their oil wealth to create armies of ignorant fanatics throughout the world.

So, to cut off financing for Islamo-fascists, beheading the Saudi regime would be a good place to start. Or at least that what seems to be going on in the minds of the people staging the events in Paris. There is a deeper aspect to this story though.

The Saudis themselves represent a slave government controlled by elements of the P2 Freemason lodge who want to engineer a battle between Christianity and Islam in order to force them to become a single religion, or a one world religion controlled in secret by them. They created and financed Wahhabists and other fake Muslim extremist groups in order to create a boogey man for brainwashed Western militaries to attack. The end game is a world fascist dictatorship controlled by a small clique of inbred families. In this version, the Saudi royals are just pawns acting out the role of bad buys.
When you die you will find out that John Lear was right..........Hoss

hoss58

#74
here is a link to the whole article :..http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1421080790


When I heard that the "terrorist" left his ID in the the car I thought.... "oh come on "!  ... not that trick again"... :o
When you die you will find out that John Lear was right..........Hoss