Traditional Algerian Berber Dress... before the world went dark
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The white and colorful ones are beautiful!
The dark one, not so much.
Where did the darkness originate from?
Quote from: zorgon on January 09, 2015, 03:25:07 AM
Traditional Algerian Berber Dress... before the world went dark
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So, what's the traditional Berber dress now? ::)
These Amazing Pictures Show What Iraq Was Like Before The Country's Decades Of Chaos
http://www.businessinsider.my/amazing-pictures-of-peaceful-iraq-2014-6/#.VLA3kNLF8rU
From the archives: Iran in the 1960s - in pictures
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/gallery/2014/sep/10/iran-swinging-sixties-in-pictures
Beautiful dress, and still modest. I don't understand the mentality of not allowing the beauty of a woman to shine through.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 09, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
So, what's the traditional Berber dress now? ::)
The one on the right... current Moroccan Berber attire that is allowed The one on the left full veil
The one in the middle is Turkish style Istanbul still allows leeway :D
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The one on the left is Shareem the one on the right is Yashara
One of my favorites was always Karima :D
All three were our teachers.
With the current situation I may have to rethink the Middle Eastern section of the proposed theme park. That would be a pity though but current tensions might be a factor
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Quote from: WarToad on January 09, 2015, 08:30:47 PM
Beautiful dress, and still modest. I don't understand the mentality of not allowing the beauty of a woman to shine through.
People say the Shah of Iran was a bad guy an American Puppet... that may be but the Iranian people had freedom to be themselves
Fortunately out west here we can still enjoy the dance without the baddies ruining the day
Okay I know how to fix it LOL make it Arabian Nights Theme that will sell better anyway
Quote from: zorgon on January 09, 2015, 08:21:14 PM
These Amazing Pictures Show What Iraq Was Like Before The Country's Decades Of Chaos
http://www.businessinsider.my/amazing-pictures-of-peaceful-iraq-2014-6/#.VLA3kNLF8rU
From the archives: Iran in the 1960s - in pictures
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/gallery/2014/sep/10/iran-swinging-sixties-in-pictures
Yes, countries are always better under someone else's rule. ::)
Quote from: zorgon on January 09, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
The one on the right... current Moroccan Berber attire that is allowed The one on the left full veil
I saw some images showing Berbers from Morocco some months ago and the dresses didn't look like that.
Quote from: zorgon on January 09, 2015, 08:46:05 PM
People say the Shah of Iran was a bad guy an American Puppet... that may be but the Iranian people had freedom to be themselves
As long as they did as the Shah wanted, otherwise they would be arrested by the secret police and tortured, but that's OK, because he was an American puppet. ::)
Quote from: ArMaP on January 09, 2015, 08:56:16 PM
As long as they did as the Shah wanted, otherwise they would be arrested by the secret police and tortured, but that's OK, because he was an American puppet. ::)
The UK had its hand in that as well, as it still does.
I know America bashing is more popular though.
( not saying this about you ArMaP )
And...how seperate is the U.S. and the U.K anywho? Some say
we never really escaped entirely.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 09, 2015, 08:56:16 PM
As long as they did as the Shah wanted, otherwise they would be arrested by the secret police and tortured, but that's OK, because he was an American puppet. ::)
Well the Portuguese, the Spaniards, the French and the Brits all had their turn at Empire... going around gobbling up little nations :P
So why can't we have a turn? :D
I mean you guys got a big chunk of the pie when you conquered Brazil :P
So your the pot calling the kettle black :D
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 01:03:25 AM
Well the Portuguese, the Spaniards, the French and the Brits all had their turn at Empire... going around gobbling up little nations :P
So why can't we have a turn? :D
Just because someone did something wrong once doesn't mean you can do it also.
QuoteI mean you guys got a big chunk of the pie when you conquered Brazil :P
Brazil was not conquered, as there wasn't any war between the natives and the occupiers.
QuoteSo your the pot calling the kettle black :D
At the time the Portuguese and the Spanish occupied most of Africa and the Americas they didn't brag about "human rights" and "democracy".
And what you wrote is a lie, as the people didn't have freedom to be themselves.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 11, 2015, 01:11:10 AM
And what you wrote is a lie, as the people didn't have freedom to be themselves.
I know many people from Iran that say it was better under the Shah
And "As long as you do what he says" goes for the USA too Stay out of politics, mind your own business and you are free to do most everything
It's all relative Your problem is you are to focused on narrow paths. You have to learn to follow the path of least resistance :D
People in Morocco today are wearing normal current clothing Not everyone goes to work wearing TRADITIONAL Tribal costumes :P
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 02:59:12 AM
I know many people from Iran that say it was better under the Shah
And "As long as you do what he says" goes for the USA too Stay out of politics, mind your own business and you are free to do most everything
- Except ingest psychedelics. Marijuana is slowly becoming legal, but it has been a long road, and it will take even longer for various other substances.
- Except build houses which deviate in any way from building codes.
- Except build any type of non-standard vehicle, other than the cars that are sold.
- Except build free energy devices, of any kind, even if there are sites around like J.L. Naudin's, which tell you how to do it.
- Except truly own land, because the title system means that you are always a tenant in common with the Crown.
- Except use anything at all as a currency, other than the worthless paper which has been dictated as "fiat currency." I don't want gold either, because I'm not an idiot, and because I also know enough about magick to know why gold really became the reserve commodity in the first place. It isn't for any of the reasons that most people think.
Very few people living in Five Eyes society have any idea of what freedom as a word genuinely means; and this is precisely by design. The real ways in which we are truly not free...like the currency...are intended to be invisible. We are supposed to think that the reason why things are the way they are, in that respect, is simply because there is no other way to do them. So yes, the lie goes, of course we are free; but there's just no point trying anything else, because supposedly the way we do things is the only way that they possibly
can be done.
QuotePeople in Morocco today are wearing normal current clothing
"Normal, current," meaning the approved uniform of the culture which is leading us towards extinction, yes?
We can talk about more genuinely positive and justifiable forms of monoculture, if you like; such as that of Vedic India, for example. Yet if we do so, you immediately notice that the values of Five Eyes culture are, to a large extent, diametrically opposed to the foundational ethics of that civilisation. It is truthfully becoming a bad joke to compare the modern West even with the Hellenic culture that it claims as a predecessor, as well; unlike many of you, I have read translations of some of the primary Greek sources. Our current mess is a very long way from anything that Aristotle or Socrates would have approved of. Athens might well have been gaudy and degenerate, but her light was blinding in comparison with our current darkness.
Contemporary Anglo/American culture, particularly that spawned and enjoyed by the Millennials, is an omnicidal, infernal product of the pit. It can not be legitimately morally justified or defended in any way, and no attempt should be made to do so.
The real traditional style is gorgeous. I see a lot of women in my neck of the woods wearing hijabs, and a lot of them with very concealing attire. I've seen one or two wearing the full burka. Sometimes I see very young girls wearing hijabs. It seems rather extreme to me. But I used to belly dance at parties, so I may not have the most objective opinion.
Shasta
Quote from: zorgon on January 11, 2015, 02:59:12 AM
I know many people from Iran that say it was better under the Shah
Many people in Portugal said that were better under Salazar than in Democracy too, but those were the ones that thought that some ideas are dangerous and should be forbidden. In both situations, anyone trying to go against the regime would be arrested and tortured, or even killed.
QuoteIt's all relative Your problem is you are to focused on narrow paths. You have to learn to follow the path of least resistance :D
My problem is that I really lived in a dictatorship and witnessed the same situations as those of Iran during the Shah's regime.
QuotePeople in Morocco today are wearing normal current clothing Not everyone goes to work wearing TRADITIONAL Tribal costumes :P
My question about it is: did the traditional costume change or are those different because they are for different occasions/wearers?