http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDgCpA0f608
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDgCpA0f608 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDgCpA0f608)
So is this the video we were trying to get all these years?
Assuming that Bob is still attending, as far as I am aware after some investigation he is...Id sincerely be disappointed if Bob Lazar does not comment on that incredible video footage.
Id say it should be mainly him talking about it along with yourself A51...with George adding in a few comments.
I have not seen that initial footage of Bob, John and Gene all stood together before...It would be great if there is more of that.
So is that what "Z" is referring to when he says "Is that the footage that we were trying to get all these years ? "
When the night time part starts..and we see the Craft as a small moving light... is the white line behind it where the profile of the mountain range was ?
As the video plays...the alterations and advancement in the imaging at 5 mins 55 , "The 48 Angle Polynomial Texture Map" is quite truly amazing...IMO.. 8)
Excellent Job to you A51Watcher and Saunder 67 in your creation of that footage..
I truely wonder what the World will make of this ..assuming any time soon this will become known about any time soon after that Conference...or maybe its been shown also at another event already ! but this USA one may be the Major one to get it known about to more people...
8) 8) 8)
As I am unable to attend, I hope that they sell a DVD that shows Bob, George, Gene, John and who ever (Maybe yourself and Saunder 67) at the event..
and that we get some feedback from any one who attends...
Some UFO experts are talking about Disclosure in 2015...It makes me wonder if this event and Video material may well be a main part to the beginning of it this year if this goes viral...
Quote from: A51Watcher on February 19, 2015, 06:32:44 AM
If I understand correctly, this film will be on the big screen behind George at the conference.
Maybe Bob will have a few comments as well.
We will see.
@ everyone
Warning: DO NOT SHARE THIS VIDEO. I repeat: DO NOT SHARE THIS VIDEO.
George Knapp informed us that the filming location needs to be adjusted!
We, Team Tumbleweed, will upload a new video for you all to share with the exact filming location.
Flux and I already created a new video for George & Bob so they can show it to their audience!
So please help us and do not make this particular video go viral. Wait for the correct version!
On behalf of Tumbleweed,
1967sander
Quote from: 1967sander on February 21, 2015, 02:36:11 PM
@ everyone
Warning: DO NOT SHARE THIS VIDEO. I repeat: DO NOT SHARE THIS VIDEO.
George Knapp informed us that the filming location needs to be adjusted!
We, Team Tumbleweed, will upload a new video for you all to share with the exact filming location.
Flux and I already created a new video for George & Bob so they can show it to their audience!
So please help us and do not make this particular video go viral. Wait for the correct version!
On behalf of Tumbleweed,
1967sander
Zander you do realize that we're talking about the internet here...lol...Its' probably already out there...
No it is not out yet and I hope the admin can remove the video till Mike has time to upload the new one.
Quote from: 1967sander on February 21, 2015, 04:21:22 PM
No it is not out yet and I hope the admin can remove the video till Mike has time to upload the new one.
Ask and ye shall receive...
Good thing we are in a quiet mode right now Likely not many saw this yet
So I didn't see Big Foot riding a skateboard with a UFO in the background? Damn, i will have to erase it from my memory now! ;D :o
Thanks everyone for keeping this quiet.
We will give you all the info about this project after the conference and share a whole lot more with you. Stuff you have never seen or heard of before.
Okay Bring us an Alien or an Interior view :P
But my question was is this the footage we have been trying to get that George gave to the Library at UNLV? If so great if not maybe you could ask him about that because I can view it in the University library but only a student or faculty can check it out o copy
It was a small edit I had to do. Removed a part then replace that section. Best it was done even though I didn't have any contact with A51 regarding the problem (he was already there at the event). Hope he didn't get too much of a shock at the presentation :(
Yep Zorgon -
This is 2nd generation footage right from KLAS's vault as displayed on their web page in the 25th anniversary special.
eta: Film is safe to share now, thanks for waiting.
Hey astro -
Of course everyone was winding you up on my identity and the like.
George's main focus in his presentation was how many former skeptics come up to him after appearances and remark that their only previous knowledge on the subject was from naysayers on the internet, but after hearing the facts about George's initial 8 month investigation into Bob's background and credentials and subsequent followups, they were now convinced.
He did display a frame from the above video after showing Bob's original footage.
Bob came out and was asked questions by George for his segment.
Not really anything new came out of either presentation for those that have followed the story closely.
I'm sure the film of it will appear on youtube soon enough.
Quote from: A51Watcher on February 24, 2015, 01:33:32 AM
Of course everyone was winding you up on my identity and the like.
Sorry astro, we might have taken the joke a bit too far by bringing a deam mans wife into the equation. ;D
Well...I still remain a bit puzzled on the comments and never quite could follow where it was going...
But as you have both now given some explanation..maybe it will eventually make sense and sink in.. ??? :)
(Not sure where the original start of the wind up comments started now, :-\ Maybe another thread, as I cannot see them on this one..unless they got deleted to refer back to.. )
QuoteQuote from: A51Watcher on Today at 06:33:32 PM
Of course everyone was winding you up on my identity and the like.
Sorry astro, we might have taken the joke a bit too far by bringing a deam mans wife into the equation. ;D
A51, Can I ask, had you supplied the video footage with the intention of showing it to the audience at the conference to make it known what you had created and the importance of it..ie the fact that as far as I am aware... your videos show severely magnified and extreme detailed new footage of the standard version video that Bob / John had recorded..
So what I mean was the importance of it made well aware to the audience...and did not George Knapp or Bob refer to it with any sort of credit to you and your team..
or was it just shown in the background or after Bobs original video with just a quick comment about it..
You say he showed or displayed a frame from the above video...but what part ? did it show the end result ?
If he had, then I wonder what the reaction of the audience was ?....Did they seem surprised, or excited by seeing it...or did they not really show much reaction and just let the event carry on with no comments towards it...
I ask this as for my thoughts would be that someone should have shown some real interest in it.. and maybe so in terms of it showing more credibility to Bobs story for any previous doubters who may have attended...
I just wondered did it excite the audience... or did you and the team not have that intention..
If you did make it well highlighted.. then I just wonder what will happen from now on if this goes viral !
I get the impression that maybe it did not get too well highlighted or noted..
But any UFO researchers their who saw it should be very excited by what they observed especially if say
Bob or George had made a main point that that had been some new unique evidence and that it was new material...
Im just trying to get an understanding of how they reacted to it...
They are selling DVDs of the event..so yes the whole Bob and George Knapp recordings will be out there soon I would think as well as anyone who may have recorded it,(If they were allowed or able to)...
I assume you meant the whole afternoons footage and not just a recording of your Video material..
Would you take a guess at how many attended those two Afternoon sessions...
Was it the first time you met them ?
I am sure we wonder what Bobs thoughts were on your footage ! and if one day we may get to find out :)
QuoteI'm sure the film of it will appear on youtube soon enough.
QuoteHe did display a frame from the above video after showing Bob's original footage.
Bob came out and was asked questions by George for his segment.
Not really anything new came out of either presentation for those that have followed the story closely.
I'm sure the film of it will appear on youtube soon enough.
astro -
He did not receive the video until the last minute and detected an error in the sequence where it is daylight and shows the 3 Amigos in the desert behind the truck, and then gets dark and shows the UFO footage.
George wrote back and said that is not the correct filming location depicted.
I had already caught a plane out of town and did not get the message.
Flux created a new edited version and emailed it, but George had already caught his plane and was too late.
He did display a frame from the 'noise removed' section and mention the IAT.
I did hear the crowd all gasp at once and say ooooooooOOOOOOO!!
lol
Wait till they see the full video.
Sounds like George has plans for it on a future presentation.
We will see.
I spotted Gene Huff on the way out the door and chatted with him briefly as he headed for his hotel room.
eta: Yes I have met both Bob and George before.
Bob at 'The ultimate UFO conference' in Rachel,
and had dinner with George and Linda Howe at a UFO conference ages ago in Bellingham, WA and gave George a copy of the Portland 1947 newspaper headlines and clippings.
I appreciate your comments and explanation A51..
It helps in trying to determine what went on and what may have happened...
Sounds like the audience was impressed, but may not as yet actually seen some other parts of the footage...
Had not realised that you have previously met those guys...
Look forward anything that G.K may do with the Video material..or anything else that you may comment on..
Astr0
Sander has created a nice intro to go with the film here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1uGZcpxfbA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1uGZcpxfbA)
He seems to have a lot of fans and views, and rightly so. 8)
He also has created an explanation video of the process used to extract the 'blueprint frames' from Bob's video here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mMrX7jX8qY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mMrX7jX8qY)
Not able to take a screen shot and post what I refer to in an Image as yet..(If anyone can I appreciate it)
If you look at the 2nd video link you just posted A51 or 1967 Saunder....
I have not seen some of the images shown in such detail before...I recall Saunder used numerous methods / Processes to bring about the final outlook of the UFO in the Image process.
But the part from 3 to 5 mins shows what looks like a remarkable change in appearance in the imaging..
Almost a cross between a Tortoise shell shaped back in parts to altering rock formation appearances with patterns on them... or maybe also like ones brain hemisphere shaped part..Also some parts seem to disappear.
As if the craft is altering its shape and appearance all the time ....then later towards the end, it appears to be showing a whole series of electro magnetic activity...
Would any of you be able to offer any explanations on this incredible amazing activity that seems to be occurring...
Never seen anything like it...To me its utterly mind blowing ! :o 8)
I HAVE TO ASK....What were Bobs comments on this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mMrX7jX8qY
astro -
Keep in mind as the explanation reports, this is a single frame lighted from 48 different angles.
To my mind, the only thing that can account for the differences seen in each image is the gravity distortion field surrounding the craft.
Yes, I have a bit of an idea about it being from 48 angles, although maybe without fully understanding, it may be hard to correctly envision..
Im just not sure if some parts of those 48 angles are showing something that is still very unusual..
with ref to some of the things that we see..
I just reread the Video explanation...and the explanation about what I think is like shining a light from various angles that reveals different appearances on the object...that we would not normally see...It may reveal more depth into it also.
Do you think that is purely Gravitation effect, or is there also Electro magnetic effect.. or do they all relate to each other in someway if all combined ?
Again, you may have missed me later added comment in my last post..
Did you manage to discuss any of it with Bob Himself..and ask what he made of it ?
Quoteastro -
Keep in mind as the explanation reports, this is a single frame lighted from 48 different angles.
To my mind, the only thing that can account for the differences seen in each image is the gravity distortion field surrounding the craft.
Quote from: astr0144 on February 24, 2015, 06:46:04 AM
I HAVE TO ASK....What were Bobs comments on this ?
Well Bob was backstage when George showed the frame and George did not ask him about it later during his appearance so we did not get a public comment on it.
I happen to know Bob was sent a copy of the original noise removed sequence, and it did elicit a favorable response indicating the enhancement was very accurate.
As I said we will just wait and see what George has up his sleeve in mind for breaking the story of this video.
He might break it on his regular Coast to Coast AM appearances and have Bob call in for comment, or if he does it at a UFO lecture surely they will tape it.
As the Team's YT channel says, 'This video was created to support Bob's story and George's investigations.'
I trust George and will just sit tight to watch his next move.
Again, I thank you for answering my questions..
I may also be asking some that you may not want to answer or maybe not as yet, and think that I could understand.. But this was one main one that I really appreciate some comments to..
I was not sure if I thought that he may ask Bob direct on stage in front of the audience or not.
Maybe some will be surprised that he did not and may wonder why ? if they later think about it..
QuoteWell Bob was backstage when George showed the frame and George did not ask him about it later during his appearance so we did not get a public comment on it.
Interesting that he did get a copy and responded favorably..
Was not sure just how open Bob May be towards maybe speaking openly or directly to anyone else other than George...He may even still be wary towards yourself or your team and have his reasons..
QuoteI happen to know Bob was sent a copy of the original noise removed sequence, and it did elicit a favorable response indicating the enhancement was very accurate.
My Mind wonders what he may do !
QuoteAs I said we will just wait and see what George has up his sleeve in mind for breaking the story of this video.
Quite possibly !
QuoteHe might break it on his regular Coast to Coast AM appearances and have bob call in for comment, or if he does it at a UFO lecture surely they will tape it.
I just noted or read the statement after you said.
QuoteAs the Team's YT channel says, 'This video was created to support Bob's story and George's appearances.'
I await with intense curiosity what may become of this and when or how soon!
Its hard to envision what may happen with any certainty...
but
My thoughts would be if he does openly come out with this and it becomes main news around the world.... Is how some organisations may attempt to still deny it...or suggest that it could be computer graphically generated...
At the same time, I am sure a lot of people would be amazed by it and become firmer believers...
Some skeptics may even suggest the case has been brought to the worlds attention again 25 yrs later for the next stage of a longer term designed plan..
Whatever its going to be very interesting I would think and a move closer to the truth! :P
QuoteI trust George and will just sit tight to watch his next move.
Cheers... 8)
Quote from: A51Watcher on February 24, 2015, 12:45:45 AM
Yep Zorgon -
This is 2nd generation footage right from KLAS's vault as displayed on their web page in the 25th anniversary special.
Awesome :D All that waiting :D
I shared Sanders links on my FB page and Pegasus
https://www.facebook.com/PegasusResearchConsortium?ref=hl
Can we put a copy on Pegasus YT channel?
So how was Bob at the conference? He seemed to stumble a lot on that last C2C interview
Out of curiosity A51..
Did you just attend the Saturday ?
Would you say that they filled their time or did they go over or under ...
G.k was supposed to be on for 75 minutes and Bob on for 90 mins..
Do you know if Bob, George and Gene Huff were at the event on the Friday and Sunday and if so would they have been around to talk to the attendees.
At other events that Ive attended sometimes main speakers are around to ask questions the day before and after...
I would have doubted that Both Bob and G.K would have been able to say on stage very much different than what we have seen them do before on Video and their past events.
But it would have been good if one could have managed to catch them at sometime maybe and ask further questions...
However being in their situation, they may well not have been willing to consider doing that...as it probably would have took up too much of their time if the event had a large audience..
Was it a Large sized event...and at a guess How many would you estimate were there on the Saturday.
I am just asking incase they have another similar event at sometime later this year.
Thank you
Quote from: zorgon on February 24, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
Awesome :D All that waiting :D
I shared Sanders links on my FB page and Pegasus
https://www.facebook.com/PegasusResearchConsortium?ref=hl
Can we put a copy on Pegasus YT channel?
Please do and share our material with everyone you know. We want this to go viral. Time for a full disclosure.
Sure Z post what you like.
Bob did really well, was relaxed and made some jokes that got a big laugh.
astro - No they didn't hang around to chat with anybody and stuck to their time slots.
No idea how many attended but the place was packed all day Saturday, the only day I attended.
Spoke with Stanton and found out he had a heart attack last year.
Bob mentioned a couple of things that didn't make sense to him (which he has spoken of before)
- How the frozen candle still managed to emit photons so we could see it, in it's frozen time state the frozen photons should not be emitting light. 'Logically' it should be blacked out or something.
- How a control shack was able to communicate with the sports model while in test flight via a 2 way radio. 'Logically' radio waves should not be able to penetrate the gravity distortion field.
If the field was perfect would not the craft be totally invisible? The fact that it glows to me indicates 'light leak' If light can 'leak' I would assume they could get a portion of a radio signal through as well
I have posted on this before with the various colors the craft glow in UFO reports base on speed observed. The higher the speed/activity the brighter the light
I have alwats said SETI needs to look in our solar system for any ship to ship communications :P
Thanks for your reply to my questions A51.
I do recall some of the things that you mention that did not make sense to Bob..(such as the Frozen Candle)....
I am sure that or those things if Bob spoke about them and if one could have any understanding about what he was trying to describe , could have been extremely interesting to listen to..
I am sure that's where we all wish we had been able to understand our Science classes in more detail back in high school or College if we did study some Science related topics..
I assume then that there may have been over 500 people or maybe more attending if it was full and a large type arena that I think we would expect on a Major convention....
QuoteBob mentioned a couple of things that didn't make sense to him (which he has spoken of before)
- How the frozen candle still managed to emit photons so we could see it, in it's frozen time state the frozen photons should not be emitting light. 'Logically' it should be blacked out or something.
- How a control shack was able to communicate with the sports model while in test flight via a 2 way radio. 'Logically' radio waves should not be able to penetrate the gravity distortion field.
A51,
Just to make you aware...
I called the organizers of the UFO Congress conference (Open Minds) to inquire about the DVDs from the event..They are $15 for each speaker..
or I think it was $250 for the whole event..
I also asked could they estimate how many people on average attended each event.. and was told about 1000.
But they said they were able to add more seats on Saturday afternoon and that there was 1400 persons attended for the events with Bob and George Knapp.
I am not sure what the average attendance is for an Average UFO conference, but I think over 1000 people is quite a good turn out...
Quoteastro - No they didn't hang around to chat with anybody and stuck to their time slots.
No idea how many attended but the place was packed all day Saturday, the only day I attended.
Did you get to talk to George Knapp?
Quote from: Pimander on February 26, 2015, 11:42:50 AM
Did you get to talk to George Knapp?
I have been in touch with George and Bob since May 25 2014. I showed George Knapp my enhancements of the UFO and I asked him to contact Bob Lazar as he is the only person able to fully confirm that every one of my enhancements truly represents shape and colour of the UFO. Bob was not keen on answering my questions but as my material was so extraordinary detailed it shocked him to the bone. Bob Lazar confirmed shape and colours of the UFO and he told me that he was amazed to see the blue corona underneath the UFO. Although they, George Knapp, John Lear and Bob Lazar had eyewitnessed the flashing blue colour of the UFO, which is the byproduct of the gravitational amplifiers (the camerasystem was not able to show this faint blue/purple colour) NO ONE ever before had been able to retrieve the original colours of the UFO from the original video. I told Bob that I had been working in forensic image and video enhancement for over 25 years, have skills unknown to most and access to special equipment. Image enhancement is more than just a hobby and I always start to laugh when I have to read about the "theoretical knowledge" of some of the real experts. People really just seem to have no idea how things work in practice. Anyway, after I gained trust of both Bob and George I decided last year to make an end to the slander campaign that discredits Bob Lazar and his companions. I started to gather people around me who all are experts in their field regarding image and video enhancement, each with their special set of skills and now we act as the Image Analysis Team and share our material with Bob, George and of course the general public. What we showed you so far is just a teaser. The real material still has to be made public and I can tell youthis; you aint see nothing yet.
George and Bon are updated by me and the team. Time will tell what happens next but what I do know is that some people are starting to have restless nights and feel very uncomfortable with this disclosure.
Hi Pimander,
Can I ask,
Reading Saunders comments,
Do you still think that what he has shown or explained to to us is still just a Man Made Craft ?
I also wonder if 1967 Saunder would consider offering his updated thoughts on it ...if he has made a final conclusion after all he has been through.
Do you consider it has any possibility of being a manmade craft ?
Many thanks for posting Your Comments about your contact and experience with Bob & George Knapp and what his thoughts on your work.
That seems like a (also for some interested members here on PRC) UFO researchers dream come true..
Quote from: astr0144 on February 28, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
Hi Pimander,
Can I ask,
Reading Saunders comments,
Do you still think that what he has shown or explained to to us is still just a Man Made Craft ?
I also wonder if 1967 Saunder would consider offering his updated thoughts on it ...if he has made a final conclusion after all he has been through.
Do you consider it has any possibility of being a manmade craft ?
Many thanks for posting Your Comments about your contact and experience with Bob & George Knapp and what his thoughts on your work.
That seems like a (also for some interested members here on PRC) UFO researchers dream come true..
Hello,
One should not forget how old this original video footage is. Namely that it was made in 1989! Yes 26 years ago! After having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made. Once you have seen the enhancements, which I will upload soon for everyone to see and to share, you will understand why I am saying this.
I appreciate your reply...
This gets even more interesting.
Curiosity awaits me as to what you indicated and what may await us to.
I am also a little unsure as to how you know the Hull was transparent / translucent ? Other than if Bob told you, unless you can make it out within your image analysis somehow. I would have thought that one would have had to be within the craft itself to have known that.
QuoteAfter having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made.
Lastly what has the age to do with your statement other or unless you are purely meaning the quality of the video footage taken back then...and you refer purely to what your image analysis shows.
26 yrs difference in the age of a UFO if it was ET.. I doubt would make much difference to making such a conclusion..other than quality of the video footage itself.
1967 Saunder
QuoteHello,
One should not forget how old this original video footage is. Namely that it was made in 1989! Yes 26 years ago! After having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made. Once you have seen the enhancements, which I will upload soon for everyone to see and to share, you will understand why I am saying this.
Quote from: astr0144 on February 28, 2015, 10:07:10 PM
I appreciate your reply...
This gets even more interesting.
Curiosity awaits me as to what you indicated and what may await us to.
I am also a little unsure as to how you know the Hull was transparent / translucent ? Other than if Bob told you, unless you can make it out within your image analysis somehow. I would have thought that one would have had to be within the craft itself to have known that.
Lastly what has the age to do with your statement other or unless you are purely meaning the quality of the video footage taken back then...and you refer purely to what your image analysis shows.
26 yrs difference in the age of a UFO if it was ET.. I doubt would make much difference to making such a conclusion..other than quality of the video footage itself.
1967 Saunder
Once you have seen this and the material of the other UFO you will understand why.
Quote from: Pimander on February 26, 2015, 11:42:50 AM
Did you get to talk to George Knapp?
Nah, they had the whole rock star can't get backstage thing going.
Quote from: astr0144 on February 28, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
Hi Pimander,
Can I ask,
Reading Saunders comments,
Do you still think that what he has shown or explained to to us is still just a Man Made Craft ?
It could be but we don't know is the honest answer. It looks like a real video of something flying but we don't know who built it from a video.
Quote from: 1967sander on February 28, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
One should not forget how old this original video footage is. Namely that it was made in 1989! Yes 26 years ago! After having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made. Once you have seen the enhancements, which I will upload soon for everyone to see and to share, you will understand why I am saying this.
Have you heard of Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements? There is a connection with the white substance of the alchemists and the knowledge is suppressed.
QuoteWhen gold and platinum-group metals are transformed into the monatomic state, a fine white powder is produced. This substance was used by pharaohs and kings of the ancient world. It was also part of the secret knowledge of mediaeval alchemy and the Knights Templar.
Research on this has been forging ahead, and some amazing properties of high-spin monatomic elements have now been scientifically confirmed. This has huge and potentially revolutionary implications.
Humanity now has within its reach a potential cure for cancer without drugs or surgery, an environment-friendly alternative to fossil fuels, a means to transform human consciousness, the possibility of low or zero-gravity flight, space travel by manipulation of space-time, and access to other dimensions (which scientists have now proved to be real).
In this interview conducted at Growing Needs Bookshop in Glastonbury, England, Laurence talked about some of the latest developments in this field. We began by discussing how news of its use as a cure for cancer has begun to spread to the mainstream environment.
http://www.graal.co.uk/interview_nexus_2003_11_06.php
If the craft are using this technology then it is ancient and human.
QuoteThere is now an article about this on my former co-author's website - but this was something I had told Philip Gardiner about years ago.
I was once in daily correspondence with physicists Hal Puthoff and Jack Sarfatti from 1999 - 2002.
Dr Hal Puthoff, Director for Advanced Studies in Austin is often quoted by Laurence Gardner to back his theories about this "strange" or "exotic substance". It is said that Puthoff analyzed this powder and concluded his studies.
Laurence Gardner continually quotes Puthoff, saying:
"Since gravity determines space-time, Puthoff concluded that the powder was "exotic matter" and was capable of bending space-time".
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/lostark.html
Pimander,
Just when I thought that you may have a difference in opinion about the Bob Lazar UFO Video, you surprised me yet again with your reply and suggestions.
I had not known about the White Gold and its properties or the mystical connections about it..
Certainly seems interesting...maybe even a possibility..and something that I think few of us would have been aware about.
It seems a bit of a Holy Grail type of connection..
How we seem to come across some other things that leaves us with more possibilities and questions.
Now its to see if there may be any proof that such a things actually may exist and do as the article suggests...Not sure how we may be able to research that though !, maybe just as hard as trying to determine if a UFO is manmade or ET ! :-\
Quote from: astr0144 on March 03, 2015, 06:32:14 PM
Now its to see if there may be any proof that such a things actually may exist and do as the article suggests...Not sure how we may be able to research that though !
You can buy the stuff so it is possible. :)
Quote, maybe just as hard as trying to determine if a UFO is manmade or ET ! :-\
Well proving that is next to impossible. It is however more possible than proving a negative like there not being ET. ;D
Quote from: Pimander on March 02, 2015, 10:49:25 AM
It could be but we don't know is the honest answer. It looks like a real video of something flying but we don't know who built it from a video.
Have you heard of Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements? There is a connection with the white substance of the alchemists and the knowledge is suppressed.
http://www.graal.co.uk/interview_nexus_2003_11_06.php
If the craft are using this technology then it is ancient and human.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/lostark.html
ORME's :)
Interesting that you bring them up.
One of their properties is Quantum jumping, whereby upon measuring the sample, it cannot be ascertained in which orbital the sample resonates. (Quantum Energy State).
To an untrained eye it looks like the sample is jumping all over the place in regards to energy state, but to someone in their know, it co-exists in all energy states.
How you ask can a piece of matter exist in different energy states?
Well, maybe it isn't quite matter! Think of it as the precursor of matter.
Aether? Maybe, but more like Aether made solidic, by resonance in a particular GEOMETRIC configuration!
Interesting stuff! The material of the future!
The transparency of the craft also rings bells! There is the possibility that there are field resonant causes, but the connection with ORMES is also likely.
ORMES can be made into a transparent metal, clear as glass, 100s of times stronger than steel, able to leap tall buildings......... :)
Reminds me of the vision of the news Jerusalem, and the transperant sea of gold!
Metallic, crystaline, transperant gold that is
Quote from: starwarp2000 on March 04, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
ORME's :)
Interesting that you bring them up.
Someone actually taking notice of what I say! Fk me! You'll be understanding the idea of being in all possible quantum states almost like beyond OBSERVED space time next.....
QuoteOne of their properties is Quantum jumping, whereby upon measuring the sample, it cannot be ascertained in which orbital the sample resonates. (Quantum Energy State).
To an untrained eye it looks like the sample is jumping all over the place in regards to energy state, but to someone in their know, it co-exists in all energy states.
:o ;D
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How you ask can a piece of matter exist in different energy states?
Well, maybe it isn't quite matter! Think of it as the precursor of matter.
Aether? Maybe, but more like Aether made solidic, by resonance in a particular GEOMETRIC configuration!
There is lots of speculating to be had here. This is where Science meets high Esoteric knowledge. Very interesting area.
QuoteInteresting stuff! The material of the future!
They'll be trying to make UFOs using this sh1t next!
QuoteThe transparency of the craft also rings bells! There is the possibility that there are field resonant causes, but the connection with ORMES is also likely.
ORMES can be made into a transparent metal, clear as glass, 100s of times stronger than steel, able to leap tall buildings......... :)
Exactly! Also able to have negative mass acording to reports. An obvious UFO technology and probably a closely guarded.... Oh no did I mention it here. :P
Try telling these guys and they go quiet. Not sure why. :)
QuoteReminds me of the vision of the news Jerusalem, and the transperant sea of gold!
Metallic, crystaline, transperant gold that is
The though has crossed a few other minds I suspect. Or is it only two of us? 8)
Well Pimander,
There was initially only you as far as I am aware that educated us on this thread anyway about this so far until Starwarp commented.
Have you described this before in other similar threads..I do not recall seeing you comment on it before and this has been discussed several times on and off about was Bob Lazar's craft ET or not !
Your posts on this thread is the first that I have come across on this topic before during my time on PRC..
Either that or I missed something or did not take note at the time...but usually anything to do with Bob Lazar's Saucer story I try to take note..
Definately interesting..
Was this discovered from the Ancients though or given to them from other means...? if this is what may be used in the Saucer crafts that we have been led to believe exist...
I am not sure we can be sure on that !
Question is is it responsible for a Saucer being able to make the incredible maneuvers and speeds that have been described...and do they really go into space and travel through the universe ?
QuoteTry telling these guys and they go quiet. Not sure why. :)
We should have a thread on ORMEs really. TIme is the problem.
ETA: I'm still working at 1.30am!
First snippets of the conference showing up on YT now -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tLpYZxTztM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tLpYZxTztM&t=19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tLpYZxTztM&t=19)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00bEKqENkT8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00bEKqENkT8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00bEKqENkT8)
It may be that what footage we get to see on youtube will just be in relation to openminds or the UFO Congress conference now promoting the DVDs of the event.
If anyone posts a recording, they may ask for it to be removed.
It may be that we have to purchase the DVD to see the full version.
Listening so far to Bob, he seems to be speaking ok, I thought..
I wonder if he will be doing any more events ?