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Started by A51Watcher, February 17, 2015, 05:53:44 AM

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astr0144

#15
Well...I still remain a bit puzzled on the comments and never quite could follow where it was going...
But as you have both now given some explanation..maybe it will eventually make sense and sink in.. ???   :)

(Not sure where the original start of the wind up comments started now, :-\ Maybe another thread, as I cannot see them on this one..unless they got deleted to refer back to.. )


QuoteQuote from: A51Watcher on Today at 06:33:32 PM
Of course everyone was winding you up on my identity and the like.
Sorry astro, we might have taken the joke a bit too far by bringing a deam mans wife into the equation.  ;D


A51, Can I ask, had you supplied the video footage with the intention of showing  it to the audience at the conference to make it known what you had created and the importance of it..ie the fact that as far as I am aware... your videos show severely magnified and  extreme detailed new footage of the standard version video  that Bob / John had recorded..

So what I mean was the importance of it  made well aware to the audience...and did not George Knapp or Bob refer to it with any sort of credit to you and your team..

or was it just shown in the background  or after Bobs original video with just a quick comment about it..
You say he showed or displayed a frame from the above video...but what part ? did it show the end result ?

If he had, then I wonder what the reaction of the audience was ?....Did they seem surprised, or excited by seeing it...or did they not really show much reaction and just let the event carry on with no comments towards it...

I ask this as for my thoughts would be that someone should have shown some real interest in it.. and maybe so in terms of it showing more credibility to Bobs story for any previous doubters who may have attended...

I just wondered did it excite the audience... or did you and the team not have that intention..

If you did make it well highlighted.. then I just wonder what will happen from now on if this goes viral !

I get the impression that maybe it did not get too well highlighted or noted..

But any UFO researchers their who saw it should be very excited by what they observed especially if say
Bob or George had made a main point that that had been some new unique evidence and that it was new material...

Im just trying to get an understanding of how they reacted to it...


They are selling DVDs of the event..so yes the whole Bob and George Knapp recordings will be out there soon I would think as well as anyone who may have recorded it,(If they were allowed or able to)...

I assume you meant the whole afternoons footage and not just a recording of your Video material..

Would you take a guess at how many attended those two Afternoon sessions...

Was it the first time you met them ?

I am sure we wonder what Bobs thoughts were on your footage ! and if one day we may get to find out  :)

QuoteI'm sure the film of it will appear on youtube soon enough.

QuoteHe did display a frame from the above video after showing Bob's original footage.

Bob came out and was asked questions by George for his segment.

Not really anything new came out of either presentation for those that have followed the story closely.

I'm sure the film of it will appear on youtube soon enough.

A51Watcher

#16
astro -

He did not receive the video until the last minute and detected an error in the sequence where it is daylight and shows the 3 Amigos in the desert behind the truck, and then gets dark and shows the UFO footage.

George wrote back and said that is not the correct filming location depicted.

I had already caught a plane out of town and did not get the message.

Flux created a new edited version and emailed it, but George had already caught his plane and was too late.

He did display a frame from the 'noise removed' section and mention the IAT.

I did hear the crowd all gasp at once and say ooooooooOOOOOOO!!

lol

Wait till they see the full video.

Sounds like George has plans for it on a future presentation.

We will see.


I spotted Gene Huff on the way out the door and chatted with him briefly as he headed for his hotel room.



eta: Yes I have met both Bob and George before.

Bob at 'The ultimate UFO conference' in Rachel,

and had dinner with George and Linda Howe at a UFO conference ages ago in Bellingham, WA and gave George a copy of the Portland 1947 newspaper headlines and clippings.


astr0144

#17
I appreciate your comments and explanation A51..

It helps in trying to determine what went on and what may have happened...

Sounds like the audience was impressed, but may not as yet actually seen some other parts of the footage...

Had not realised that you have previously met those guys...

Look forward anything that G.K may do with the Video material..or anything else that you may comment on..

Astr0

A51Watcher

#18


Sander has created a nice intro to go with the film here -





He seems to have a lot of fans and views, and rightly so.  8)



He also has created an explanation video of the process used to extract the 'blueprint frames' from Bob's video here -






astr0144

#19
Not able to take a screen shot and post what I refer to in an Image as yet..(If anyone can I appreciate it)

If you look at the 2nd video link you just posted A51 or 1967 Saunder....


I have not seen some of the images shown in such detail before...I recall Saunder used numerous methods / Processes to bring about the final outlook of the UFO in the  Image process.

But the part from 3 to 5 mins shows what looks like a remarkable change in appearance in the imaging..

Almost a cross between a Tortoise shell shaped back  in parts to altering rock formation appearances with patterns on them... or maybe also like ones brain hemisphere shaped part..Also some parts seem to disappear.

As if the craft is altering its shape and appearance all the time ....then later towards the end, it appears to be showing a whole series of electro magnetic activity...

Would any of you be able to offer any explanations on this incredible amazing activity that seems to be occurring...

Never seen anything like it...To me its utterly mind blowing !  :o  8)

I HAVE TO ASK....What were Bobs comments on this ?



A51Watcher



astro -

Keep in mind as the explanation reports, this is a single frame lighted from 48 different angles.

To my mind, the only thing that can account for the differences seen in each image is the gravity distortion field surrounding the craft.



astr0144

#21

Yes, I have a bit of an idea about it being from 48 angles, although maybe without fully understanding, it may be hard to correctly envision..

Im just not sure if some parts of those 48 angles are showing something that is still very unusual..
with ref to some of the things that we see..

I just reread the Video explanation...and the explanation about what I think is like shining a light from various angles that reveals different  appearances on the object...that we would not normally see...It may reveal more depth into it also.

Do you think that is purely Gravitation effect, or is there also Electro magnetic effect.. or do they all relate to each other in someway if all combined ?

Again, you may have missed me later  added comment in my last post..

Did you manage to discuss any of it with Bob Himself..and ask what he made of it ?


Quoteastro -

Keep in mind as the explanation reports, this is a single frame lighted from 48 different angles.

To my mind, the only thing that can account for the differences seen in each image is the gravity distortion field surrounding the craft.

A51Watcher

#22
Quote from: astr0144 on February 24, 2015, 06:46:04 AM

I HAVE TO ASK....What were Bobs comments on this ?


Well Bob was backstage when George showed the frame and George did not ask him about it later during his appearance so we did not get a public comment on it.

I happen to know Bob was sent a copy of the original noise removed sequence, and it did elicit a favorable response indicating the enhancement was very accurate.


As I said we will just wait and see what George has up his sleeve in mind for breaking the story of this video.

He might break it on his regular Coast to Coast AM appearances and have Bob call in for comment, or if he does it at a UFO lecture surely they will tape it.

As the Team's YT channel says, 'This video was created to support Bob's story and George's investigations.'

I trust George and will just sit tight to watch his next move. 



astr0144

#23
Again, I thank you for answering my questions..

I may also be asking some that you may not want to answer or maybe not as yet, and think that I could understand.. But this was one main one that I really appreciate some comments to..

I was not sure if I thought that he may ask Bob direct on stage in front of the audience or not.
Maybe some will be surprised that he did not and may wonder why ? if they later think about it..

QuoteWell Bob was backstage when George showed the frame and George did not ask him about it later during his appearance so we did not get a public comment on it.

Interesting that he did get a copy and responded favorably..

Was not sure just how open Bob May be towards maybe speaking openly or directly to anyone else other than George...He may even still be wary towards yourself or your team and have his reasons..


QuoteI happen to know Bob was sent a copy of the original noise removed sequence, and it did elicit a favorable response indicating the enhancement was very accurate.

My Mind wonders what he may do !

QuoteAs I said we will just wait and see what George has up his sleeve in mind for breaking the story of this video.

Quite possibly !

QuoteHe might break it on his regular Coast to Coast AM appearances and have bob call in for comment, or if he does it at a UFO lecture surely they will tape it.

I just noted or read the statement after you said.

QuoteAs the Team's YT channel says, 'This video was created to support Bob's story and George's appearances.'

I await with intense curiosity what may become of this and when or how soon!

Its hard to envision what may happen with any certainty...

but

My thoughts would be if he does openly come out with this and it becomes  main news around the world.... Is how some organisations may attempt to still deny it...or suggest that it could be computer graphically generated...

At the same time, I am sure a lot of people would be amazed by it and become firmer believers...

Some skeptics may even suggest the case has been brought to the worlds attention again 25 yrs later for  the next stage of a longer term designed plan..

Whatever its going to be very interesting I would think and a move closer to the truth!   :P

QuoteI trust George and will just sit tight to watch his next move. 

Cheers... 8)

zorgon

Quote from: A51Watcher on February 24, 2015, 12:45:45 AM
Yep Zorgon -
This is 2nd generation footage right from KLAS's vault as displayed on their web page in the 25th anniversary special.

Awesome :D  All that waiting  :D

I shared Sanders links on my FB page and Pegasus

https://www.facebook.com/PegasusResearchConsortium?ref=hl

Can we put a copy on Pegasus YT channel?

zorgon

So how was Bob at the conference? He seemed to stumble a lot on that last C2C interview


astr0144

Out of curiosity A51..

Did you just attend the Saturday ?

Would you say that they filled their time or did they go over or under ...

G.k was supposed to be on for 75 minutes and Bob on for 90 mins..

Do you know if Bob, George and Gene Huff were at the event on the Friday and Sunday and if so would they have been around to talk to the attendees.
At other events that Ive attended sometimes main speakers are around to ask questions the day before and after...

I would have doubted that Both Bob and G.K would have been able to say on stage very much different than what we have seen them do before on Video and their past events.

But it would have been good if one could have managed to catch them at sometime maybe and ask further questions...

However being in their situation, they may well not have been willing to consider doing that...as it probably would have took up too much of their time if the event had a large audience..

Was it a Large sized event...and at a guess How many would you estimate were there on the Saturday.

I am just asking incase they have another similar event at sometime later this year.

Thank you

1967sander

Quote from: zorgon on February 24, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
Awesome :D  All that waiting  :D

I shared Sanders links on my FB page and Pegasus

https://www.facebook.com/PegasusResearchConsortium?ref=hl

Can we put a copy on Pegasus YT channel?

Please do and share our material with everyone you know. We want this to go viral. Time for a full disclosure.
Today's reality is more strange than fiction and what is fiction today could be tomorrow's reality.

A51Watcher



Sure Z post what you like.

Bob did really well, was relaxed and made some jokes that got a big laugh.


astro - No they didn't hang around to chat with anybody and stuck to their time slots.

No idea how many attended but the place was packed all day Saturday, the only day I attended.

Spoke with Stanton and found out he had a heart attack last year.

Bob mentioned a couple of things that didn't make sense to him (which he has spoken of before)

- How the frozen candle still managed to emit photons so we could see it, in it's frozen time state the frozen photons should not be emitting light. 'Logically' it should be blacked out or something.

- How a control shack was able to communicate with the sports model while in test flight via a 2 way radio. 'Logically' radio waves should not be able to penetrate the gravity distortion field.





 

zorgon

If the field was perfect would not the craft be totally invisible? The fact that it glows to me indicates 'light leak'  If light can 'leak' I would assume they could get a portion of a radio signal through as well

I have posted on this before  with the various colors the craft glow in UFO reports base on speed observed. The higher the speed/activity the brighter the light

I have alwats said SETI needs to look in our solar system for any ship to ship communications :P