Is The Moon Hollow? And What Creatures Are Living Inside?
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In 1998, images from the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft revealed something startling from Phobos, the unusual large moon orbiting Mars.
It appeared to be a very tall, 400-foot-high rectangular-shaped object jutting straight up and casting a long shadow on the surface of Phobos, as seen in the picture below.
While most scientists feel this is just a natural rock outcropping of the moon, it still raises questions.
"Even if we see something that we can't explain, to conclusively say what it is, is a very different thing," says Florida Institute of Technology astrophysicist Hakeem Oluseyi.
"Suppose we find a perfectly shaped pyramid on another planet and we can't think of any way that could form by natural processes. That, to me, does not say that intelligence put it there. That says, to me, it's there and we have no idea how it got there. That's what we know," Oluseyi told The Huffington Post,
Oluseyi is featured on this week's return of Science Channel's "Are We Alone?" The series offers compelling stories about space and the growing belief among scientists that Earth is not the only planet that harbors life and, more importantly, intelligent life.
"In our galaxy, we're talking about something like 400 billion stars, and we now think there are more Earth-like planets than there are stars," Oluseyi, pictured below, said. "So, we're talking about hundreds of billions of planets. But the question of habitability -- whether or not they can support life -- is based on many factors.
"A conservative estimate -- if you say .1 percent of 100 billion -- would be tens of millions. We really don't know because, statistically, we haven't yet found a single one. But there are a few planets that have been discovered that have very high habitability indices."
And if you think those numbers are staggering, Oluseyi reminds us that we're only talking about the number of stars and planets in our own Milky Way galaxy.
"There are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the observable universe alone, which we think is a tiny fraction of what the universe is," he said.
And when it comes to outer space anomalies, like that Phobos rectangular rock structure, Oluseyi suggests that's the very essence of the Science Channel program.
"That's the thing about this show -- "NASA's Unexplained Files" -- is that we study both the facts and the fiction. The key is to address the question: Are We Alone? Which is this deep philosophical question that we ponder."
Another provocative subject explored in the series is what happened in 1969 at the end of the Apollo 12 moon mission, which concluded with the first-ever deliberate spacecraft crash.
Scientists wanted to know more about the moon's geological makeup, so they devised an experiment to measure lunar vibrations.
Lunar module pilot Alan Bean and mission commander Pete Conrad -- the third and fourth men to walk on the moon -- set up seismographic equipment on the lunar surface prior to rejoining command module pilot Richard Gordon, who had orbited the moon during the mission.
"We jettisoned the lunar module and it impacted the moon at just the right spot," Bean reports on "Are We Alone?"
"This was amazing, this is science fiction, except you're living it," Bean said. "The scientists said, 'Let's separate the lunar module and have it impact the moon just at the right distance away from this seismometer that [we] put there, and we'll measure how it vibrates, and that'll tell us what's going on in the center of the moon."
When Bean and Conrad were safely back on board the command module, the lunar module ascent stage was released, headed back to the moon's surface, to crash about 50 miles away from where the astronauts had walked on the surface.
The used module impacted the moon at 3,800 mph, creating its own crater. What the seismographic equipment recorded startled the folks in Mission Control -- It registered the moon ringing like a bell. This moon quake continued reverberating for more than 30 minutes, causing some to speculate our natural satellite is hollow.
"Are We Alone?" reaches out to believers and skeptics with the following provocative presentations:
"NASA's Unexplained Files" -- a skyscraper-high monolith on the Martian moon Phobos; Earth's possible hollow moon; frozen water on the red-hot planet Mercury; was the moon landing faked?
"Close Encounters" -- a strange metal craft passes over Madagascar, plunging its capital city, Antananarivo, into darkness for 10 minutes; Texas police answer calls about a 200-foot flying object; a property inspector in Scotland is knocked unconscious after coming in contact with an unusual metal object.
"UFO Conspiracies" -- when unexplained lights crash into Canadian waters, the government declares it a UFO; Iranian jet fighter pilots are involved in an aerial dogfight with a UFO.
There's a lot more to see and wonder about on "Are We Alone?" on Science Channel this week. Check your local listings.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/04/are-we-alone-science-channel_n_6786826.html
This struck Me as a subliminal attack on trying to think rationally:
Quote"Suppose we find a perfectly shaped pyramid on another planet and we can't think of any way that could form by natural processes. That, to me, does not say that intelligence put it there. That says, to me, it's there and we have no idea how it got there. That's what we know," - Oluseyi
What? Based only on "a perfectly shaped pyramid" as the data, I might agree. But if We found that, surely We might have additional data available - type of construction, material(s), conditions, evidence of materials transport... With answers We can assign Our probabilities on the question of whether intelligence put it there.
It rather disgusts Me that the approach is to encourage a "Gee, I'll never know" attitude, over a "Let's ask more questions" one. I would say:
Suppose we find a perfectly shaped pyramid on another planet and we can't think of any way that could form by natural processes. We might ask some questions about what it is made of and put together to determine whether intelligence put it there.
QuoteSuppose we find a perfectly shaped pyramid on another planet and we can't think of any way that could form by natural processes. We might ask some questions about what it is made of and put together to determine whether intelligence put it there.
Well we have two prime examples to work with on how that can work the other wat
1) The Face on MarsWhen we first saw it it was a blurry picture that looked like a face. These three below are from various missions
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars/threefaces.jpg)
Since then people have made all sorts of 'enhancements' to prove it is really a Martian face
(http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/proof_files/firgure4.jpg)
(http://www.famouspictures.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Mars-Face-on-Mars.jpg)
And even this model
(http://astro.wsu.edu/worthey/html/landformfaces/marsface-WWN.jpg)
But when you look at the recent closeups well it no longer looks like a face but an ancient Island. Sure people will now say "Oh NASA is lying!" That is a fake picture to cover up the face!"
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars/face_E03-00824_proc.gif)
But no it really is an Island any amateur geologist can tell you that
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars/Detail_Island.jpg)
Here is the full res
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/extended_may2001/face/face_E03-00824_proc_50perc.gif
Surely We adjust Our probabilities as greater data are collected. [smile]
2) The Bosnian Pyramid
There is no pyramid in Bosnia. The Faerie Tale is pushed by only ONE person. All the claimed "discoveries" of man made pavement are simply layers of NATURAL sedimentary rock
But people that have no back ground in science, especially geology, will oooo and ahhhhh all day because no way Nature could do this
Then they 'discovered' that the pyramid was emitting signals... well only that same person ever measured them and they where radio blips but in the story on the web they did THIS
(http://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Bosnian-Pyramid-of-the-Sun.jpg)
In Vegas our Pyramid has a similar beam of light so by adding it to a photo with the story or radio emissions and you now have the image firmly set in the minds of the believers.
As for the pavement THIS is a layer from Pyramid of the Moon
(http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/images/BosnianPyramidOfMoon/August2006/BosnianPyramidOfMoonTiles_PlatouOut.JPG)
(http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/images/BosnianPyramidOfMoon/August2006/BosnianPyramidOfMoonTiles_Platou.JPG)
This is a NATURAL layer of sedimentary rock similar to the way you see the dried and cracked mud in Nevada. It is called Tessellated pavement It is found exposed in many locations around the world
(http://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/BAhbCVsHOgZmSSJGdXBsb2Fkcy9wbGFjZV9pbWFnZXMvZmYxOTIxZDY2OTI4OWExMWQyNGUwOTQzNTJkZTNmMWQzMTk3NGVhZi5qcGcGOgZFVFsIOgZwOgp0aHVtYkkiCng0MDA+BjsGVFsHOwc6CnN0cmlwWwk7BzoMY29udmVydEkiEC1xdWFsaXR5IDkxBjsGVDA/image.jpg)
Back to Bosnia several layers
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Here is what a natural cut through several layers looks like in natural layers of sedimentary rock
(http://www.nhm.ac.uk/resources-rx/images/1008/sediment-layers-lyme-regis_31013_1.jpg)
No amount of BS can turn natural stones into a pyramid unless the believer puts on blinders :P
Quote from: Amaterasu on March 05, 2015, 08:44:25 PM
Surely We adjust Our probabilities as greater data are collected. [smile]
Well yes and it does go both ways and yes there is coverup
but today with the internet and everyone having cameras and photoshop... more and more "Evidence" is being manipulated to get money from the believers and actually being fabricated
So today the BS is so deep very few even want to bother digging for the real stuff... because when you get the truth, no one wants to believe it anyway if it doesn't fit what they want to believe
That si why this forum ATS and many others are losing the good posters. It just isn't worth the time to research and present only to be swamped by Naysayers and 10 foot deep Cow Patties
8)
Regarding the Hollow Moon
There are a few points to consider
1) Norm Bergrun. He was a NASA scientist and gave us Ring Makers of Saturn. He also told us there were 'critters' on the moon and that they Moon was towed into orbit with the ship buried on the moon
What IF the Moon is the Ship?
2) TLP's (lights and spurts of vapors) have been seen on the moon since we made telescopes NASA has tracked these in a book starting with 1554
Seems to me that IF the moon was a spaceship and there were beings on it we would see the occasional release of vapors and the odd light go on and off
I have a short clip from Clementine This shows that the NAVY was expecting a light to come on because they oriented the craft to catch it (I need to get this to Paulie to fix)
3) NASA dropped the Apollo booster onto the moon and it "Rang like a bell"
4) "Music" was heard on one mission I would suspect that was in the form of vibrations that was heard as "music" in the craft as opposed to actual music'
5) People say: Well if the moon is hollow there goes your mining theory out the window!"
Well no because all the titanium thorium and HE3 is on the SURFACE in the regolith (dust) Several million metric tons of HE3 in the first 3-4 inches
6) Apollo astronauts said they saw other craft. I REMEMBER this when it was live at the time before it was covered up. Ham radio was my thing at that time. I WISH I had saved that stuff but no one expected cover up back then
7) Meteorites The skin of a hollow moon would need to be relatively thick so as to survive meteorites But there is one curios factor on the moon The largest craters are NOT proporrtionally deep In fact they look smoothe bottomed and shallow As you might expect if the bottom was a shell
continued....
8) Aristarchus Crater We have seen it with the lights out Looks like a 'normal' crater yet even then spectrographic and other lighting views show it is NOT a normal crater at all.
We have seen it with the Lights ON in our famous image captured by Mike Deegan and several other astronomers and even Galileo and Clementine showed us the SAME blue glowing 'structure'
But here is another puzzle. They tell us Hubble cannot image the moon... yet they have THIS
(http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003200/a003275/STILL_aristarchus_gray.0800.jpg)
Does that look like a normal crater? Here it is in color
(http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003200/a003276/STILL_aristarchus_color.0800.jpg)
Okay so now read the CAPTION
Hubble Space Telescope image of Aristarchus crater mapped onto simulated topography derived from Clementine data.
Date 12 October 2005
Source http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/details.cgi?aid=3275
Author NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Scientific Visualization Studio; Zoltan G. Levay (STScI)
Now go watch the VIDEO at NASA and see how they morph our blue structure into the above scene :P
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/details.cgi?aid=3275
We orginally called it a fusion reactor and jumped the gun with the blue glow being Cherenkov Radiation
Well the reasoning was because 1) the blue violet color we observed and 2) the spectrographic analysis the Russiands did of the blue glow in 1954-6 The signature was similar to Cherenkov radiation
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However that requires water... and at the time we were trying to show Lunar Atmosphere :D
I have since revised my opinion that the glow is PLASMA CORONAL DISCHARGE
That fits the observed activity better... and that also fits the level of atmosphere that John says is on the moon at ground level even fits the minimal atmosphere NASA says is there
I based my opinion on new data LOL The image of the HAARP in India operating showing the plasma coronal discharge
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Bases/National_002.jpg)
So since the 'lights' are not on all the time and Russian astronomers have studied the glow, and NASA and the NAVY have both recorded it It seems that someone or something is turning it on and off. So it may be a power source of some type or even a portal that opens and closes.
If it is an array that would mean it would not be visible to us when off
So your saying it maybe the discharge of a gate opening and closing? Now that IS interesting?
That is what I have been saying yes I just need to 'FIX' the Aristarchus pages
But this has been going on for a long time... and NASA knows
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Image05.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Image01.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Image02.png)
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(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Image10.png)
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(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Image08.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Image11.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Image12.png)
CLEMENTINE when the Lights were on 1994
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Aristarcus/Aristarcus_CL_01.png)
Report April 23, 1994
Sky and Telescope published an article basically saying anyone who sees a TLP is just seeing an illusion, despite hundreds of sightings by reputable astronomers... Well April 23, 1994 would change that dramatically... and involves our friend Clementine
"A satisfying rebuke to the TLP naysayers was recently delivered by JPL's B. Buratti at the October 1999 meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Padua, Italy. Her specific TLP occurred on April 23, 1994. At that time, about one hundred amateur astronomers noticed a 40-minute darkening near the edge of the bright lunar crater Aristarchus. Happily, when this hundred fold "illusion" took place, the lunar satellite Clementine was mapping the area around Aristarchus. Defying the dogmatists, Buratti scrutinized the Clementine data again. Sure enough, Aristarchus had really turned redder after the TLP reported by the amateur astronomers."
- Science Frontiers #127, JAN-FEB 2000. © 1997 William R. Corliss
More when I get back
About that face on Mars....
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/AmaterasuSolar/Mobile%20Uploads/Ani-Face.gif~original)
Thanks "Z" and Amy for the great additional content posted to this thread..
That imagery / video of the Mars face is very impressive Amy.. 8)
Do you have special software to create that ?
Very interesting observations..
Quote from: Amaterasu on March 05, 2015, 07:43:18 PM
This struck Me as a subliminal attack on trying to think rationally:
What? Based only on "a perfectly shaped pyramid" as the data, I might agree. But if We found that, surely We might have additional data available - type of construction, material(s), conditions, evidence of materials transport... With answers We can assign Our probabilities on the question of whether intelligence put it there.
It rather disgusts Me that the approach is to encourage a "Gee, I'll never know" attitude, over a "Let's ask more questions" one. I would say:
Suppose we find a perfectly shaped pyramid on another planet and we can't think of any way that could form by natural processes. We might ask some questions about what it is made of and put together to determine whether intelligence put it there.
Well, what he said and what you said are essentially the same. He never said "Gee, I'll never know." He was simply saying "With the information we currently have, there no current definitive answer." The insinuation is to keep probing, look for more data.
So don't be disgusted, you're two peas in a pod.
Quote from: Amaterasu on March 06, 2015, 06:18:44 PM
About that face on Mars....
Adding lines where they are needed for things to appear as you want doesn't count. :P
Concerning the initial question - "Is The Moon Hollow"?
1. Under normal conditions, a hollow Moon would essentially = little or no mass.
2. Little or no mass = little or no gravity.
3. Little or no gravity = no tidal action on the Earth.
4. If the Moon has little or no gravity, why would it remain in orbit of the Earth over the millennia?
On the other hand:
Don't we know by fact that the moon has mass & gravity - article about its masa/gravitational "mystery" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/moon-gravity-mapping-probes-lumps-mass-lunar-surface_n_3361383.html
Don't we know it does have significant tidal affect upon the earth?
http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/moontides/
Seems there is much fact to support a Moon that is directly orbitally synergistic with the needs of the Earth. We don't, thus far, have much fact to support a hollow Moon, unless the hollowness includes technical exhibit of artificial mass and gravity - which certainly could/should be possible at the hands of technical capability!
(http://www.tarrdaniel.com/images/technical/mush.gif)
Quote from: astr0144 on March 06, 2015, 08:02:28 PM
Thanks "Z" and Amy for the great additional content posted to this thread..
That imagery / video of the Mars face is very impressive Amy.. 8)
Do you have special software to create that ?
Very interesting observations..
Thanks, astro. The software used was Photoshop. I rotated the original to that line at the top and did nothing else to the image. I then overlayed lines at appropriate and suggested places for facial anatomy. Got a deeper project on this going...
Quote from: ArMaP on March 06, 2015, 09:32:16 PM
Adding lines where they are needed for things to appear as you want doesn't count. :P
Hahahahaha! Yup, ArMaP, You're right. Do enjoy the thread. [smile]
Quote from: rdunk on March 07, 2015, 12:08:23 AM
Seems there is much fact to support a Moon that is directly orbitally synergistic with the needs of the Earth.
Yes the moon is PERFECTLY positioned. :D Almost too good to be true :D
QuoteWe don't, thus far, have much fact to support a hollow Moon, unless the hollowness includes technical exhibit of artificial mass and gravity - which certainly could/should be possible at the hands of technical capability!
Well IF the moon was hollow and IF the moon was indeed placed there by an Alien race to help life on Earth... then it would HAVE to have artificial gravity generators.
Sice we have a space station at L1 that has artificial gravity seems that it could be :D
But then THAT is why its only a theory :D
(http://www.tarrdaniel.com/images/technical/mush.gif)
Don't forget we also have the Ringmaker's of Satrun in the mix :D
Quote from: ArMaP on March 06, 2015, 09:32:16 PM
Adding lines where they are needed for things to appear as you want doesn't count. :P
When I collect images of the faces etc I take great care to find the ones that are clear and easy to spot
If you have to add lines, change focus, blur or sharpen to get it to look like what you think it looks like or what you want it to look like, it is no longer valid
If you need to say "Someone blew it up to hide the truth" to support your belief, well then nothing will convince you ever :D
Only solution is send you to Mars on the next shuttle with a camera and get a close up
BTW this 'face' is miles across :D
HOLLOW MOON
Scientific perspective
A 2011 NASA press release, and a single 1976 scientific study on the internal structure of the Moon speculate on the possibility of a solid internal structure with a thin crust, an extensive mantle and a small denser core. This is based on:
Seismic observations. Besides Earth, the Moon is the only planetary body with a seismic observation network in place. Analysis of lunar seismic data have helped constrain the thickness of the crust (~45 km)[3] and mantle, as well as the core radius (~350 km).
Moment of inertia parameters. For the Moon, moment of inertia parameters have demonstrated that the core is ~1.4% of the total mass.[6] One such parameter, the normalized polar moment of inertia, is 0.393 ± 0.001.[6][7] This is very close to the value for a solid object with radially constant density, which would be 0.4 (for comparison, Earth's value is 0.33). The normalized polar moment of inertia for a hollow Moon would have a higher value, closer to 0.67. In other words, the moment of inertia parameters indicate that the core of the Moon is both dense and small, with the rest of the Moon consisting of material with nearly-constant density.
Fine-scale variation (e.g., variation along the orbit of the Lunar Prospector orbiter) of the lunar gravitational field, which is consistent with geologic processes involving a crust, mantle, and core.
The large-scale gravitational field of the Moon, however, is unaffected by the internal distribution of mass if the internal density is assumed to vary only radially. For example, had the Moon been replaced with a point object of identical mass, the current gravitational field would continue to exist at distances greater than the ~1700 km[8] lunar radius. This can be derived directly for a spherically symmetric Moon by applying the integral form[9] of Gauss's law. Therefore, the large-scale gravitational field of the Moon does not convey any information about the internal radial distribution of mass. Hollow Moon proponents would, however, have to account for the incredible density of the Moon's crust if it were in fact hollow. As gravitational pull is determined by mass, a hollow moon would require an inordinately dense crust to achieve observed gravitational values.
Conflicting arguments
University of Notre Dame Professor of Civil Engineering and Geological Sciences Clive R. Neil described the Moon as "ringing like a bell," leading to arguments that it must be hollow like a bell. Lunar seismology experiments since then have shown that the lunar body has shallow "moonquakes" that act differently from quakes on Earth, due to differences in texture, type and density of the planetary strata, but no evidence of any large empty space inside the body.
The Moon's density is 3.34 g/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth's is 5.5. Proponents argue that this indicates the Moon must have a large cavity inside it.
Some proponents argue that lunar craters are too shallow to be easily explained. A recent study indicates that larger craters on the near side may be a reflection of the thickness of the crust.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Moon
So seems at least SOME scientists are considering it too. Especially like the shallow crater part :D
In H.G. Wells's book The First Men in The Moon (1901) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0548657319/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0548657319&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20&linkId=3GQOJ2WPNGPLOIC3), Wells describes the insect-like "Selenites" who live inside a hollow Moon.
(http://www.rarebookconsign.com/SignedHGWells/5.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0548657319/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0548657319&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20&linkId=3GQOJ2WPNGPLOIC3)
In the Gor Novels these insect like aliens are called Priest Kings and they too live deep inside the counter earth
(http://work.tcjn.info/f9/g03bal11.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345271998/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0345271998&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20&linkId=REHNYVPOOH72ZFF5)
Priest Kings of Gor – June 12, 1977 by John Norman (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345271998/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0345271998&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20&linkId=47L5SFSMEESGPYWY)
Seems back in those days the Earth the Moon and other planets all were HOLLOW Well maybe not hollow but honeycombed We KNOW earth has vast caverns below and they found OCEANS of water. The cave we saw in Jules Verne's book Journey to the Center of the Earth shows EXACTLY the sme size and crystals they just found in that cave in Mexico
So maybe we just have it all wrong
Quote from: zorgon on March 07, 2015, 12:21:41 AM
Yes the moon is PERFECTLY positioned. :D Almost too good to be true :D
The problem with this (as well as other "too perfect to be true" arguements, is that we're only here BECAUSE it is in the perfect position. If it were not - we would not be having this question. Too close too far, game over. We'd never exist to ask the question. We lucked out with perfect positioning and are allowed to ponder the question because... it happened.
I can ponder why am I alive today? Because my Mom and Dad met up and made sweet monkey love - meeting up against all odds, in a world of 5 billion at the time. But I can be here asking that question because of beating those billions of odds and here I am.
The butterfly effect. A zillion possible "nows". We're here right now right here because of a zillion zillion previous crap shoots. Enjoy it.
Is The Moon An Artificial Alien Base(http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/base-en-la-luna.jpg)
QuoteSeveral strange phenomena have let some to believe that the eternal companion of the Earth, the Moon is in fact some sort of a huge spaceship. Crazy theory? Well heres why.
A curious video taken from a backyard telescope, which showed an alleged UFO fleet over the moon, caused a stir worldwide. This makes us wonder about what could possibly hide in that celestial body. Is it possible that there are civilizations living there if so what is their purpose? and what is its real origin of the moon?
Those who believe in the Alien Moon theory state that the moon had to be created by a highly developed civilization, much more than ours. Under this unusual logic, our artificial satellite would have to be hollow inside so that, within it, the aliens could place fuel for machinery, materials and accessories that would be used to repair working instruments, navigational instruments, observation equipment and all kinds of machinery, but most importantly, it could actually be used as a gigantic underground base or even as a giant spaceship.
If to all of the above we add the fact that there are some astronauts, those who went on NASA's missions such as the "Apollo",the now retired astronauts, have publicly said they have had contact with UFO's and aliens, and that are even extraterrestrial beings living there having that said, for some, this does not sound so crazy after all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Vk3I4sRtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Vk3I4sRtg
QuoteGoogle Moon Photographs used in the Sea of Muscovy ( were several mysteries have been spotted) come from the Japanese probe Kaguya, also known as SELENE (selenological and Engineering Explorer), which for nearly two years was analyzing various aspects of our satellite, the distribution of elements on its surface, the magnetic and gravitational field, etc. The interest in this particular area is very big, ugolofists claim that this specifica area is very attractive when looking for anomalies thus it is a very interesting part of the moon that holds the answer for several questions that have been postulated throughout the years.
Recently triangular objects have been spotted on the surface of the moon, leading ufologists to speculate about the purpose of the odd objects but sceptics argue that the mysterious objects are actually simple pixels that do not appear in the original image. In addition, they argue that if you look closely you can see a set of other points "scattered" by other areas of the Moon.
The answer to this is that Google stores multiple image frames in various resolutions, using filters that create noise along the boundaries between light and dark regions, creating curios spots that some might interpret as out-of-place-objects. But the pixel theory does not explain geometrical patterns in these objects, if you take in count the pixelation theory, then you would expect the pixels to create random dots not connected, but the objects that have been identified on the moon follow specific geometrical patterns; like triangles and rectangles. Here are some interesting images that can debunk the pixel theory about the lunar bases/objects.
(http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/alien-base-moon.jpg)
(http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/moon-lunar-ufo-sighting-alien-aliens-ET-surface-building-base-structure-face-mothership-w56-2012-mufon-tufos-top-secret-hunters-miners-world-newsScreen-Shot-2012-01-08-at-11.44.15-AM-e1425904666400.png)
QuoteScience might one day provide conclusive evidence of alien beings on the moon, bases, vehicles etc. But the truth is all of us can only wonder and propose theories at this point. Skeptics that debunk the alien moon base theories do not have the slight idea what is going on up there, or why human beings have not traveled to the moon even though it is a point of interest for us not only because of its proximity but also because of the exploitable natural resources present on the moon.
The truth is that the mystery of UFO's continues, reports of anomalies appear again and again and will probably continue to do so. We can only form our own opinion about these mysterious objects and their origin and purpose.
source (http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2015/03/is-the-moon-an-artificial-alien-base-2448758.html)
Interesting Article "Z",
Nice find.
Great image you posted of what the inner moon may look like if it were Hollow and an Alien base..
Quote from: astr0144 on March 11, 2015, 01:47:32 PM
Interesting Article "Z",
Nice find.
Great image you posted of what the inner moon may look like if it were Hollow and an Alien base..
Astro, I agree with you on this - Interesting!! And that hollow moon looks nice to, but..............when we think about it, it may not be quite realistic. If the moon were actually hollow, as this pic suggests, then the shear size of the hollowness would likely dictate something way different. Depending upon the thickness of the exterior plates, the interior size of a hollow moon could be about the width of the United States, both horizontally and vertically, which is a little over 2,000 miles +/-.
So, to me, the representation of this "hollow" doesn't seem to reflect such sizing, for open air-space and other. Of course, any such undertaking for a hollow moon this size would be monumental!! :))
I presonally always like this one:
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m623/Sgt_Rocknroll/anomaluna9_zps05333ef3.gif) (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/Sgt_Rocknroll/media/anomaluna9_zps05333ef3.gif.html)
Maybe a with a thick outer layer and space like this for habitat, then spaces for water and fuel and the center interior the main machinery.
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or one of many types of designs our own people would find viable.
http://travellerrepublic.yolasite.com/spacestations.php
http://www.3dartistonline.com/users/848/thm1024/1381679913_tspacetunnel269max.jpg
I like this one
http://thecosmist.blogspot.com/2011/03/hell-on-earth-heaven-in-space.html
I failed at inserting photo again.
Good find Dyna 8)
Hope that I can add some of those images for you !
(http://www.nss.org/settlement/calendar/2009/MurphyElliot-1a-650.jpg)
(http://travellerrepublic.yolasite.com/resources/island31a16d-goodvista1a.jpg.opt836x522o0%2C0s836x522.jpg)
(http://www.3dartistonline.com/users/848/thm1024/1381679913_tspacetunnel269max.jpg)
Who 'Parked' The Moon In Perfect Circular Orbit Around Earth?
Despite six announced visits by U.S. astronauts between 1969 and 1972, the Moon remains a riddle to scientists in many regards. The solutions to these riddles could indicate an alien aspect of our familiar Moon.
Called "the Rosetta Stone of the planets" by Dr. Robert Jastrow, the first chairman of NASA's Lunar Exploration Committee, scientists had hoped by studying the composition of the Moon, to resolve some of the mysteries of how our planet and solar system came into existence.
However, six Moon landings later, science writer Earl Ubell declared, "... the lunar Rosetta Stone remains a mystery. The Moon is more complicated than anyone expected; it is not simply a kind of billiard ball frozen in space and time, as many scientists had believed. Few of the fundamental questions have been answered, but the Apollo rocks and recordings have spawned a score of mysteries, a few truly breath-stopping."
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m5XHzettBR0/UqRdL8Xci2I/AAAAAAAAIuM/SIeaAeV5qf8/s640/rosetta+stone+moon.jpg)
A LOT more here....
http://earthweareone.com/who-parked-the-moon-in-perfect-circular-orbit-around-earth/
Z, the article in the link you just posted above does present an excellent discussion of the variables relative to "what is the truth of our Moon". It is well written, and is pretty much "non-technical", and thus easy for general understanding. It really does make some sense as it discusses the, hollow-or-not possibilities.
Just a few of the interesting conclusion of the article is,"Undoubtedly the greatest mystery concerning our Moon is how it came to be there in the first place"............."It seems impossible that such an oddity could naturally fall into such a precise and circular orbit. It is a fascinating conundrum as articulated by science writer William Roy Shelton, who wrote, "It is important to remember that something had to put the Moon at or near its present circular pattern around the Earth"............"Something' had to put the Moon at its altitude, on its course and at its speed. The question is: what was that 'something'?
So, not only the Moon may or may not be hollow, but an equally significant/polarizing thought is the Moon may or may not have a naturally occurring spacial orbit. And these thoughts raise conflicting grounds of reality - even if the Moon is not hollow, how did it get such a near perfect orbit "by happenstance"? So, if the Moont is hollow, and/or if it is in an unnatural orbit, "WHO DUN-IT"??
Of course, the basic answers to the "WHO DUN-IT" are - it just naturally occurred; It was done by aliens (to us); Or, it was done by God. Of course, there won't be much research relative to whether God might have done it, but the Moon is mentioned many times in the the Bible (64 In the Young's translation), with most of them being related to various happenings during the life of man, and at the end times. Simply one for instance:
Joel 2:30-32
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
30 And I have given wonders in the heavens, and in the earth, Blood and fire, and columns of smoke.
31 The sun is turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, Before the coming of the day of Jehovah, The great and the fearful.
32 And it hath come to pass, Every one who calleth in the name of Jehovah is delivered, For in mount Zion and in Jerusalem there is an escape, As Jehovah hath said, And among the remnants whom Jehovah is calling!
So, there many questions about the Moon, and they do go into several different directions, from the natural to the spiritual (for those who are so inclined). :)
QuoteOf course, the basic answers to the "WHO DUN-IT" are - it just naturally occurred; It was done by aliens (to us); Or, it was done by God.
One of the other possibilities is of course "we" did it, in a time before loss of knowledge took place, possibly modifying a natural satellite.
Yes Dyna, I agree. That was why I included the "(to us)" after aliens in my comment, meaning that even others here , or others from "out there", could have "Dun-it" in the far past. :)
Chain has released information relative to the Moon - not about a "hollow Moon", but concerning the upper layers of the Moon's crust. My thought is that the outer crust could have some relevance as we discuss the thoughts and direction of this OP, so I am posting this here. (mod, if you want to make this a separate post/thread, that is ok too)
Yutu rover reveals Moon's 'complex' geological history
2015-03-13 08:55XinhuaWeb Editor: Si Huan
The moon's geological history is more complex than previously thought, preliminary results from China's first lunar rover, Yutu, suggested Thursday.
Ground-penetrating radar measurements taken by Yutu, also known as Jade Rabbit, revealed at least nine subsurface layers beneath its landing site, indicating that multiple geologic processes have taken place there.
"We have for the first time detected multiple subsurface layers (on the moon)," said lead author Xiao Long, professor of the China University of Geosciences in Wuhan, attributing these layers to ancient lava flows and the weathering of rocks and boulders into regolith, or loose layers of dust, over the past 3.3 billion years or so.
One of the most interesting findings is a layer at depths of 140 meters to 240 meters, said Xiao, who is also professor of Macao University of Science and Technology.
"We think this layer is probably pyroclastic rocks which formed during the course of volcanic eruptions," Xiao told Xinhua via email. "It reveals the diversity of volcanic activity, but what's more important is that it shows there are plenty of volatile contents inside the moon."
Yutu is part of China's Chang'e-3 moon mission, which delivered the rover and a stationary lander to the lunar surface on Dec. 14, 2013, marking the first moon landing since the Soviet Union's Luna 24 mission in 1976.
More: http://www.ecns.cn/2015/03-13/157844.shtml