Is The Moon Hollow? And What Creatures Are Living Inside?

[ArMaP]

About that face on Mars....

Adding lines where they are needed for things to appear as you want doesn't count. 

[rdunk]

Concerning the initial question - "Is The Moon Hollow"?

1. Under normal conditions, a hollow Moon would essentially = little or no mass.

2. Little or no mass = little or no gravity.

3. Little or no gravity = no tidal action on the Earth.

4. If the Moon has little or no gravity, why would it remain in orbit of the Earth over the millennia?

On the other hand:

Don't we know by fact that the moon has mass & gravity - article about its masa/gravitational "mystery" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/moon-gravity-mapping-probes-lumps-mass-lunar-surface_n_3361383.html

Don't we know it does have significant tidal affect upon the earth?

http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/moontides/

Seems there is much fact to support a Moon that is directly orbitally synergistic with the needs of the Earth. We don't, thus far, have much fact to support a hollow Moon, unless the hollowness includes technical exhibit of artificial mass and gravity - which certainly could/should be possible at the hands of technical capability!



                                                       

[Amaterasu]

Thanks "Z" and Amy for the great additional content posted to this thread..

That imagery / video of the Mars face  is very impressive Amy..

Do you have special software to create that ?

Very interesting observations..

Thanks, astro.  The software used was Photoshop.  I rotated the original to that line at the top and did nothing else to the image.  I then overlayed lines at appropriate and suggested places for facial anatomy.  Got a deeper project on this going... 

Adding lines where they are needed for things to appear as you want doesn't count. 

Hahahahaha!  Yup, ArMaP, You're right.  Do enjoy the thread.  [smile]

[zorgon]

Seems there is much fact to support a Moon that is directly orbitally synergistic with the needs of the Earth.

Yes the moon is PERFECTLY positioned.   Almost too good to be true

We don't, thus far, have much fact to support a hollow Moon, unless the hollowness includes technical exhibit of artificial mass and gravity - which certainly could/should be possible at the hands of technical capability!

Well IF the moon was hollow and IF the moon was indeed placed there by an Alien race to help life on Earth... then it would HAVE to have artificial gravity generators.

Sice we have a space station at L1 that has artificial gravity seems that it could be

But then THAT is why its only a theory



                                                       

Don't forget we also have the Ringmaker's of Satrun in the mix

[zorgon]

Adding lines where they are needed for things to appear as you want doesn't count. 

When I collect images of the faces etc I take great care to find the ones that are clear and easy to spot

If you have to add lines, change focus, blur or sharpen to get it to look like what you think it looks like or what you want it to look like, it is no longer valid

If you need to say "Someone blew it up to hide the truth" to support your belief, well then nothing will convince you  ever

Only solution is send you to Mars on the next shuttle with a camera and get a close up

BTW this 'face' is miles across

[zorgon]

HOLLOW MOON

Scientific perspective

A 2011 NASA press release, and a single 1976 scientific study on the internal structure of the Moon speculate on the possibility of a solid internal structure with a thin crust, an extensive mantle and a small denser core. This is based on:

Seismic observations. Besides Earth, the Moon is the only planetary body with a seismic observation network in place. Analysis of lunar seismic data have helped constrain the thickness of the crust (~45 km)[3] and mantle, as well as the core radius (~350 km).

Moment of inertia parameters. For the Moon, moment of inertia parameters have demonstrated that the core is ~1.4% of the total mass.[6] One such parameter, the normalized polar moment of inertia, is 0.393 ± 0.001.[6][7] This is very close to the value for a solid object with radially constant density, which would be 0.4 (for comparison, Earth's value is 0.33). The normalized polar moment of inertia for a hollow Moon would have a higher value, closer to 0.67. In other words, the moment of inertia parameters indicate that the core of the Moon is both dense and small, with the rest of the Moon consisting of material with nearly-constant density.

Fine-scale variation (e.g., variation along the orbit of the Lunar Prospector orbiter) of the lunar gravitational field, which is consistent with geologic processes involving a crust, mantle, and core.

The large-scale gravitational field of the Moon, however, is unaffected by the internal distribution of mass if the internal density is assumed to vary only radially. For example, had the Moon been replaced with a point object of identical mass, the current gravitational field would continue to exist at distances greater than the ~1700 km[8] lunar radius. This can be derived directly for a spherically symmetric Moon by applying the integral form[9] of Gauss's law. Therefore, the large-scale gravitational field of the Moon does not convey any information about the internal radial distribution of mass. Hollow Moon proponents would, however, have to account for the incredible density of the Moon's crust if it were in fact hollow. As gravitational pull is determined by mass, a hollow moon would require an inordinately dense crust to achieve observed gravitational values.

Conflicting arguments

University of Notre Dame Professor of Civil Engineering and Geological Sciences Clive R. Neil described the Moon as "ringing like a bell," leading to arguments that it must be hollow like a bell. Lunar seismology experiments since then have shown that the lunar body has shallow "moonquakes" that act differently from quakes on Earth, due to differences in texture, type and density of the planetary strata, but no evidence of any large empty space inside the body.

The Moon's density is 3.34 g/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth's is 5.5. Proponents argue that this indicates the Moon must have a large cavity inside it.

Some proponents argue that lunar craters are too shallow to be easily explained. A recent study indicates that larger craters on the near side may be a reflection of the thickness of the crust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Moon

So seems at least SOME scientists are considering it too. Especially like the shallow crater part

[zorgon]

In H.G. Wells's book The First Men in The Moon (1901), Wells describes the insect-like "Selenites" who live inside a hollow Moon.



In the Gor Novels these insect like aliens are called Priest Kings and they too live deep inside the counter earth



Priest Kings of Gor – June 12, 1977 by John Norman


Seems back in those days the Earth the Moon and other planets all were HOLLOW  Well maybe not hollow but honeycombed  We KNOW earth has vast caverns below and they found OCEANS of water.  The cave we saw in Jules Verne's book Journey to the Center of the Earth shows EXACTLY the sme size and crystals they just found in that cave in Mexico

So maybe we just have it all wrong

[WarToad]

Yes the moon is PERFECTLY positioned.   Almost too good to be true

The problem with this (as well as other "too perfect to be true" arguements, is that we're only here BECAUSE it is in the perfect position.  If it were not - we would not be having this question.  Too close too far, game over.  We'd never exist to ask the question.  We lucked out with perfect positioning and are allowed to ponder the question because... it happened.

I can ponder why am I alive today? Because my Mom and Dad met up and made sweet monkey love - meeting up against all odds, in a world of 5 billion at the time.  But I can be here asking that question because of beating those billions of odds and here I am.

The butterfly effect.  A zillion possible "nows". We're here right now right here because of a zillion zillion previous crap shoots.  Enjoy it.

[zorgon]

Is The Moon An Artificial Alien Base

Several strange phenomena have let some to believe that the eternal companion of the Earth, the Moon is in fact some sort of a huge spaceship. Crazy theory? Well heres why.

A curious video taken from a backyard telescope, which showed an alleged UFO fleet over the moon, caused a stir worldwide. This makes us wonder about what could possibly hide in that celestial body. Is it possible that there are civilizations living there if so what is their purpose? and what is its real origin of the moon?

Those who believe in the Alien Moon theory state that the moon had to be created by a highly developed civilization, much more than ours. Under this unusual logic, our artificial satellite would have to be hollow inside so that, within it, the aliens could place fuel for machinery, materials and accessories that would be used to repair working instruments, navigational instruments, observation equipment and all kinds of machinery, but most importantly, it could actually be used as a gigantic underground base or even as a giant spaceship.

If to all of the above we add the fact that there are some astronauts, those who went on NASA's missions such as the "Apollo",the now retired astronauts, have publicly said they have had contact with UFO's and aliens, and that are even extraterrestrial beings living there having that said, for some, this does not sound so crazy after all.

Google Moon Photographs used in the Sea of Muscovy ( were several mysteries have been spotted) come from the Japanese probe Kaguya, also known as SELENE (selenological and Engineering Explorer), which for nearly two years was analyzing various aspects of our satellite, the distribution of elements on its surface, the magnetic and gravitational field, etc. The interest in this particular area is very big, ugolofists claim that this specifica area is very attractive when looking for anomalies thus it is a very interesting part of the moon that holds the answer for several questions that have been postulated throughout the years.

Recently triangular objects have been spotted on the surface of the moon, leading ufologists to speculate about the purpose of the odd objects but sceptics argue that the mysterious objects are actually simple pixels that do not appear in the original image. In addition, they argue that if you look closely you can see a set of other points "scattered" by other areas of the Moon.

The answer to this is that Google stores multiple image frames in various resolutions, using filters that create noise  along the boundaries between light and dark regions, creating curios spots that some might interpret as out-of-place-objects. But the pixel theory does not explain geometrical patterns in these objects, if you take in count the pixelation theory, then you would expect the pixels to create random dots not connected, but the objects that have been identified on the moon follow specific geometrical patterns; like triangles and rectangles. Here are some interesting images that can debunk the pixel theory about the lunar bases/objects.

Science might one day provide conclusive evidence of alien beings on the moon, bases, vehicles etc. But the truth is all of us can only wonder and propose theories at this point. Skeptics that debunk the alien moon base theories do not have the slight idea what is going on up there, or why human beings have not traveled to the moon even though it is a point of interest for us not only because of its proximity but also because of the exploitable natural resources present on the moon.

The truth is that the mystery of UFO's continues, reports of anomalies appear again and again and will probably continue to do so. We can only form our own opinion about these mysterious objects and their origin and purpose.

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[astr0144]

Interesting Article "Z",

Nice find.

Great image you posted of what the inner moon may look like if it were Hollow and an Alien base..

[rdunk]

Interesting Article "Z",

Nice find.

Great image you posted of what the inner moon may look like if it were Hollow and an Alien base..

Astro, I agree with you on this - Interesting!!  And that hollow moon looks nice to, but..............when we think about it, it may not be quite realistic. If the moon were actually hollow, as this pic suggests, then the shear size of the hollowness would likely dictate something way different. Depending upon the thickness of the exterior plates, the interior size of a hollow moon could be about the width of the United States, both horizontally and vertically, which is a little over 2,000 miles +/-.

So, to me, the representation of this "hollow" doesn't seem to reflect such sizing, for open air-space and other. Of course, any such undertaking for a hollow moon this size would be monumental!!

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I presonally always like this one:

[Dyna]

Maybe a with a thick outer layer and space like this for habitat, then spaces for water and fuel and the center interior the main machinery.


or one of many types of designs our own people would find viable.
http://travellerrepublic.yolasite.com/spacestations.php

http://www.3dartistonline.com/users/848/thm1024/1381679913_tspacetunnel269max.jpg

I like this one
http://thecosmist.blogspot.com/2011/03/hell-on-earth-heaven-in-space.html
I failed at inserting photo again.

[astr0144]

Good find Dyna 

Hope that I can add some of those images for you !

[zorgon]

Who 'Parked' The Moon In Perfect Circular Orbit Around Earth?

Despite six announced visits by U.S. astronauts between 1969 and 1972, the Moon remains a riddle to scientists in many regards. The solutions to these riddles could indicate an alien aspect of our familiar Moon.

Called "the Rosetta Stone of the planets" by Dr. Robert Jastrow, the first chairman of NASA's Lunar Exploration Committee, scientists had hoped by studying the composition of the Moon, to resolve some of the mysteries of how our planet and solar system came into existence.
However, six Moon landings later, science writer Earl Ubell declared, "... the lunar Rosetta Stone remains a mystery. The Moon is more complicated than anyone expected; it is not simply a kind of billiard ball frozen in space and time, as many scientists had believed. Few of the fundamental questions have been answered, but the Apollo rocks and recordings have spawned a score of mysteries, a few truly breath-stopping."



A LOT more here....

http://earthweareone.com/who-parked-the-moon-in-perfect-circular-orbit-around-earth/